Ahem, it's not fake actually. First, it may not even be an ape. The being seen here doesn't have uniform hair either, suits do. It's quite the contrary, it's messy and spotty showing skin and muscles underneath. Go on, imitate that. The gait's typical Bigfoot gait, something you can only superficially recreate. For one thing, that joker BobH locks his knees which the Bigfoot doesn't. So obviously this wanna-be hoaxer didn't do his homework, he failed big time.
This is a fake film....apes in the natural wild do not have uniform hair..typical of a suit...not a primate. Everything else is grainy and NOT difficult to immitate..Grover Krants could do it and Bob Herinimous looked even better in his gait...but there are always the believers.
Dr. Melba Ketchum update: I thought we would be finished in a few weeks, but instead, Sasquatch threw us curve balls even with their DNA which can be as elusive as they are.We are past that! As a result, we have assembled a renowned team, each of us with our own specialties to make this project "extraordinary".If everyone will hang in there, I promise it will be worth the wait. We have the proof, now just give us the opportunity to present it in a form that will even convince skeptics.
IF BIG FOOT EXISTS,FIRE SOME TRANQUILLIZERS INTO IT AND BRING HIM IN..JOB DONE.BUT NO,NO,NO,THEY DON'T DO THAT BECAUSE IT'S ALL BULLSHIT LIES.SOME TWAT IN A HAIRY SUIT.
what about dozens of ppl that passed polygraph tst after hawing encounter with bigfoot?Plygraph its not enough prove to be used in court,its to much inconclusive.They walks identical to us ,becuse,we both are bipedal type of creatures.Why do they hawe to walk different anyway?We hawe same common ancesters,its obvious that they will move same on flat areas and imagine how stupid u look in eyes of ppls that seen bigfoot and know that u are just arrogant fagg with no practical knowl
The Freeman footage would also be difficult to hoax,especially when the adult bigfoot picks up another one at the end-not shown in most Youtube clips of this.I don't remember any measurements of ratios of limbs, etc.,but it is very similar to the PG film.A size analysis suggests that the bigfoot is about 8.5 feet tall.The footprint left would add another degree of complexity to the hoax.I don't think that the people involved in these controversial films were sophistocated enough to hoax experts.
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@retrobloke78 If Marble Mountain was a hoax, it would be a very sophistocated one, with anatomy very consistent with other accounts (ratios of limbs, legs, etc). It moves gracefully and again, if the crew is involved in the hoax, then the supposed 6 ft. model was either 4' tall or the hoaxer was about 9ft to 10 ft in a suit. There is a lot of footage (although not very clear) which increases the probability that it is not a hoax and I don't see any signs of hoax with the movements.
And again you're wrong, retroll. lol I feel sure enough to say it'll happen in your sad lifetime now, whether you're 70 then. Technology's finally too good for continuously hiding, it was poor 40+ years ago but not anymore. Besides, 4 decades is not a long time in this search, far from it. What exists can't hide from discovery forever, there's always new discoveries being made, even primates. And they do keep finding new apes.
Well retro, why do you babble on then? lol The footage's just visual proof, yes we already have proof basically right there, but I agree we'll need more to satisfy the dumbest skeptic. The notion they exist is based on all we know so far, not just this film but collectively. If you prefer the lame idea it's somehow a hoax, while every scientific examination of the footage says differently, then you're free to do that. We need suckers too, we can't all be right, you'll learn that in due time.
Dumb as fuck you are again, you haven't been here Long enough to convince us of your troll bullshit. lol It was actually eminaidiot who thought that nonsense's real where I think PGF's real, so you're clearly confusing us here, until I explained to her it was all fake grain and she had to cave in. Sorry, I don't believe in werewolves or dogmen like you, I'm not that far gone as old threads will show. But I think Bigfoots exist, the others you can keep for your fairytale carnival tours, haha.
Wrong idiot, the Gable film is the worst piece of shit ever made and only real clowns would ever say anything else...amazing really, there's a guy with his digital gadgets in our day and age and he can't even make that look convincing enough to fool anyone - but according to a wanker like you the PGF is supposed to be a 'bad suit', yet it blows everything ever created in Hollywood clean away...hahaha. The biggest comedian here sadly is you retroller, troll a new tune for a change will ya...
U thought wrong as usual, retroll. Can U walk, retroll? If yes, so can they. Can U run, retroll? If yes, so can they. Gable's a digital fake, suit or computer, fakes are easy to spot. Every time. The clips mentioned are real BFs, your daily babble of fear - just like your other half eminaidiot - kind of prove to the world U actually know it's true. You're well aware you're getting the same answer every day, yet you return, so your interest in what U pretend to think is a hoax isn't genuine. lol
Actually I only 'believe' three pieces of bigfootage show the genuine thing clearly, but keep overlooking that fact retro. They are PGF, Marble Mountain and Paul Freeman. Those three are certain, most others are terrible fakes, though a few others certainly could be real but are just too unclear for determination.
What evidence, retroll? BobH? lol That guy will make his real confession one day, when he's on his last leg so to speak, or maybe you think this good Christian church going man's gonna take a lie with him to his grave? Who the hell would wan to be remembered as a guy wearing fake hairy BF tits, especially when it wasn't and couldn't be him. As more evidence in favor of the new species gathers, the more pressure he'll feel to eventually spill the beans that he was taking you for a ride all aLong.
@reclaimerReclaimer Like I've posted before, the Bob H thing is just really really....really X 10,659 weak. If I was a doubter, I wouldn't put any faith in that claim. I even watched the crummy lie detector test on tv. He look really really scared. He probably trained on how to pass the test, and hoped that it would work. It is really unconvincing, honestly.
I'm not trying to convince you of anything retroll, just telling you what I think, to you on the other hand it seems very important that people think like you. Summer? I'm sure there's been some encounters already but most sightings are in October actually, but you wouldn't know that of course...haha...
Clown feet. lmao Patty's look spot on exactly like they should, same shape and form as tracks found. You know very well how some of us get the 7ft. No suit's hiding the legs here, I trust you'll agree, because every normal person can see that. You, I'm not so sure about of course, but most do recognize they're clearly visible. So if that's BobH's legs we see, how can the figure be only 6ft, and him operate the top when it's much longer than his. See how it doesn't add up and can only be taller.
I think I'll ignore it, gilbert...like you ignore the obvious right in front of you... You still need to answer how we can see the legs in full, yet you still think it's BobH - whose legs look nothing like this. And that's not even the most crucial point, the crusher blow is the top... If that's a 6ft figure, and all of the legs seen, what happened to his upper body showing full arm/head movements. Interestingly enough, you don't see this... Can't be 6ft then, can it.
Just all cheap excuses. Munns has basically shot down what Pruitt says, like the Charlie Gemora stuff, etc. None of these guys, apart from Munns, checked out the film itself upclose. Gimme a break with all the 'different pieces' or 'two pieces' stuff, it's perfectly clear even to me she's in one piece whatever she is. Whenever I hear or read their words, it seems to me f/x guys can't do BFs well & need the PGF to be fake in order higher themselves somehow. Any fucker can see it's not pieces. lol
Munns was shot down by Pruitt when he claimed that no ape suit came in 2 pieces. Whether you want to deny this or ignore it is up to you, but Munns has no clue about 60's creature suits, something which Jeff looked into with great detail, i'm sure if you'd brought this up with him he'd clarify it for you. Many FX people claim that Patty is a man in a suit, there are pictures which show aspects of Patty in other suits, not in nature, but in monster suits.
It's either known or unknown, no two ways about it. Sure, contamination happens but not always. If they get enough over time, it shows something building up we can start to conclude things from. We're not there yet, but don't be surprised when we are, we should be perfectly prepared for it by now. It's either an ape/animal or something even more human, and if it's the latter we already know attacks are few if any so fears should fade. An 'uncontrollable wild ape' out there would confuse folks...
Primate DNA and human DNA are not very far removed, my point is, how do you know if you've got a contaminated sample of DNA that has been in contact with a person or persons, aswell as other creatures? "Unknown" DNA in the world of such matters, apparantly just means that not enough information is there to begin with.
Its wishful thinking to latch onto unknown DNA as the term "unknown" is widely misused in most accounts.
Rock the huge majority of scientists do say the PGF is fake. Even many bigfooters say its fake. On last years Discovery channel's Bigfoot show of the 5 bigfoot "experts" on the panel only Jeff"elk bone" Meldrum said he was sure the film was real.and he has been caught in false statements about PGF.
No they wouldn't say that, gilbert. -They'd do what they're doing now already, waiting on their lazy behinds for more new crucial evidence. Eventually that waiting is over, especially when they get better DNA it's all over for ya...
DNA has to be cross referenced with DNA of a matching species... You can't find crappy DNA that comes up as "unknown," which means "not enough data" and then claim that it belongs to a Sasquatch, thats so far away from being scientific that you might aswell start making up new species to go along with the millions of bad DNA collected.
There's plenty of evidence, retroll...it's you not seeing it as such. Movement? There's nothing but, that's why you see through the hair at times, skin remember, depending on her movements... I think your brain has separate pieces...hahaha, who was it...a Dr. Frank N. Stein that put it back together again, right? No close-ups? Hehe...old cameras didn't have zooms, sorry. All your lame excuses is why you're regarded a troll around here...hey, don't look so surprised now... lol
Jeez... Same old shot to shit crap. Doesn't make sense to leave stuff like that on an anatomically correct/realistic suit, now would it. It's been addressed with perfect sense 100s of times, but you refuse to listen, that's why we're still telling you until it sinks in. It is her skin, and it is her hair. There. That's not so hard to understand, now is it? You see those (perhaps less hairy) spots, all depending on her moves in the film and the sunlight on her. Still too difficult?
As you know Joey we were not talking about a "muscle" line up the back. It was a "fur" line. No primate on Earth has a fur line up its back like Bigfoot in PGF. That you have to lie and pretend it was muscles instead of fur we were referring to is very telling. Why the need to lie if bigfoot is real?
I've had EVERY skeptic from Emintardo to retroidiot tell me that there is NO line up a primates back like the one seen in the Patterson footage...google "Gorillas back'...well...behold!! The first, FIRST, I say FIRST image is a gorilla with a line up his back...(it's where all of the back muscle adhere)..I guess Janos Prohaska made that lowlanfd gorilla too...
Most great apes have a line running down their back, but they don't have visible panty lines downstairs... To this day, no'one has given an explanation, nor have they properly addressed this with logic. Patty is wearing undies... how is that a biological artifact? Its as clear as day, panty lines are visible.
@GilbertSyndrome If that was true, the entire scientific community would say, "yes, it's a hoax". But that is not even considered to be an issue to discuss. It's a similar analogy to the comments such as "you can see his face- what a joke, it's fake", or "he's wearing sneakers, it's fake".
@GilbertSyndrome This 'diaper' issue is always brought up by you folks...I've NEVER heard any of the fx teams that have looked at it mention this obvious give-away of hoaxery...what do you think of the Henson shop and their findings?? Why does one of the premier creature crafters say "I have NO IDEA how they would have built a suit like this in 1967..!" Can't HE see the 'diaper'..??
I would ignore any team that does NO analysis to come up with their findings...I find it a little harder to listen to one of the BEST fx artists in his field who, after THE closest examination of the film to date, comes away puzzled by what the subject really is..
@GilbertSyndrome Yes..the Henson shop makes 'puppets'..have you any idea the cutting edge animatronic animals they make? 'puppets'..would you like a list of their Emmys and Oscars for 'puppets'..I will NOT ignore ANY other team that says it's fake...show me their notes and findings and I will NOT ignore them at all..have you got ONE fx team that has done that...does that include Winstions famous sound byte, that he reached with NO analysis?? Which fx teams are you referring?
A lot of people have brought up the diaper issue, including FX techs and costume makers who've visited forums like the BFF or the JREF. I can't find more than 3 costume makers who even think its a real Bigfoot.
Effects makeup artist Dave Kindlon, makeup artist Howard Berger, both are now head of KNB Effects Group and both have worked with Rick Baker, who i may add, also believes its a suit. Bob Burns, Hollywoods ape impersonator.
Kindlon, Berger and Burns all commented that aspects of Patty looked similar to suits and tricks used by Charlie Gemora.
John Vulich of Optic Nerve studios, effects artist Bart Mixon and makeup artist Jim McPherson. Werner Keppler, make up artist.
Tom Burman, one of Hollywood's top makeup artists, Stan Winston... there's a lot of names coming up here, and brief comments by some of them about how they think the suit was made. With a little more research i can find more names and comments, i remember seeing a full list on a forum somewhere, i'll dig that out.
Many of the names i just mentioned all speak of what many people here have spoken about, including Jeff Pruitt, that the suit was likely put together using different pieces. The main account i keep hearing is that the suit itself is a modified bear costume, not an ape costume.
Academy Award winning creature fx expert Chris Walas claimed that Patty was made in two sections as Heironimus described and Bill Munns claimed he had never seen any hair suit like that before. All professional ape suits of top quality used that design.
I've read all about all of the mentioned effects guys you have named..as can anyone with a computer...every single one of those effects guys mentioned say "Yeah...I heard that Rick Baker heard that it was made by John Chambers...etc. etc.." Not ONE of them has any analysis for me to peruse...not one..well..only the Henson shop put the subject under the microscope..but they don't count, because the Jim Henson Creature Shop only makes, as you maintain, 'puppets'.
Who is the premier creature-man at the Henson shop and what is his analysis of Patty, what does he point out that proves beyond a doubt that Patty is a real creature and not a man in a suit?
Jeff Pruitt has done some of the more detailed research, explaining aspects of the suit, including the diaper, among other things, i can point you to certain pages at the JREF where he has listed these aspects and also showed pictures to demonstrate that they were being used pre PGF.
Why is Jeff Pruitt, a stuntman who has NEVER sculpted or cast a single fx prop of ANY kind to be listened too?? Peter Burke is the head of Henson's shop...watch him look into the footage here on yt 'AP Bigfoot" is the clip...it's in several parts, but very interesting to see him be surprised at all of the detail he finds from having the film to digitize..but...they only make 'puppets'...unlike Pruitt who's special effect credentials include..uhh...nothing...??
Jeff has created many suits, though he's not an acredited fx technician, he does make creature suits. He actually used to fly the flag for the PGF, then he was asked to write an article on the subject and he then changed his mind based on people he'd spoken to and things he's seen.
He points out aspects of Patty that were being used prior to '67, he shows evidence of this through pictures and links. He's tried similar parts on and spoken to many fx techs about the process.
When i get back from my run i'll be happy to PM you some links to pages where Jeff explains everything i've mentioned in detail, he's even posted many pictures showing everything from the foam padding to the thigh pads (which appear as a line across the thigh in Patty aswell as on the legs of the wearers in the pictures) the diaper is also explained, and many other details that he uncovered when investigating the claims that it couldn't be a suit.
Jeff has created a few things, including anamatronic ape arms, i think you can see those in his video, he also made the static Bigfoot-looking statue in that video, he's reconstructed the foam padding reportedly used in the Patterson suit and has made his own, very similar looking Patty feet, he's overlayed these against a picture of the Patty feet, and they are identical.
Like i said, i'll get ahold of these pages and PM them to you, i'm off for my nightly run.
"what is his analysis of Patty, what does he point out that proves beyond a doubt that Patty is a real creature and not a man in a suit?" I NEVER claimed he said that at all..
@GilbertSyndrome Just saw yer quote from Dumb and Dumber...my personal fave is "Oh theres' lottsa jobs out ther' "Yeah, if ya wann work 40 hrs a week!!!" Classic morons!!...and "Look at the ass on THAT!!" "Yeah...he must work out..."
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There's a problem with the 3D analysts that put a virtual skeleton model inside the thing in this clip for motion capture tests? Shouldn't they also recreate a model based on the skeleton of a man inside a bulky padded suit? The investigations all assume that the skeleton is a fit for a massive creature but if it's a guy in a suit the dimensions of the model would all need adjusting? We can't even know for certain how tall this thing is. I think Gimlin will speak up eventually.
Paterson had found footprint evidence in the area years before and in other areas on occasion.He got lucky.The dynamics of movement of the creature should resemble a human and it matches the dynamics of the prints found and casted, not the balloons for feet that would have resulted from the claimed mask which is an over-the-top joke.Its not the simple, this and anything else must be analyzed and studied in detail before coming to a conclusion.I would not want to debate in court if I was a denier
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I used to think this a good film but the more I've looked into the more I'm convinced it's a Hoax. Paterson spent years trying to get a bigfoot film to sell and make money from it and after years of failure he decided to get a friend of his to put a suit and it looks like a suit if you look. This bigfoot is clearly man size and walks like a guy in a suit. Sorry for all of you who want to believe this but it's a hoax. The guy in the suit still lives in the area, it's good for tourism.
Which guy in a suit does this footage look like? Please direct me to a clip of a guy in a suit that looks and walks like the Patterson subject. I bet you can't do that for me.
Can you show me any other footage of a *cough cough* "Bigfoot," shot from 100 yards, for about 30 seconds on a grainy Kodachrome whilst the camera shakes? I bet you can't do that for me.
The camera doesn't 'shake' during the famous part of the footage and it's not actually 'grainy'. It's the blow ups that make it look grainy. The actual full footage isn't grainy.
Please, do your homework. You are making beginner's mistakes.
All Kodachrome was grainy, it certainly wasn't clear. The grain now comes from the fact that this footage has been copied and blown up more times than Jaws.
Yep beginner's mistakes. You've just made two beginner's whoppers.
1. The camera isn't 'shaken'. It's moving due to forward locomotion from Patterson. He's moving towards the creature. Then he stops and gets stable footage. He isn't 'shaking' the camera.
2. The footage isn't grainy. It's the blow ups that make it look grainy.
The footage is actually reasonably clear and stable during the most important segment, especially for such an old camera.
You don't know if the camera was shaken or not, haha, you're basing this on guesswork and assumption, and i never said the camera was shaken, i said the same result could be attributed to someone shaking said camera. Read a little more carefully next time. The footage was grainy even before the copies, Kodachrome, and more specifically Kodachrome 2, wasn't the best quality footage out there and was notoriously difficult to have developed.
@retrobloke78@retrobloke78 Hahaha ok, by that description right there I can understand how you and others can be doubtful.Lol, but still, I stand by these facts. 1. Too many consistent sightings, thousands of sightings that all say the same thing. 2. We haven't discovered everything on Earth. 3. the evidence (tracks, pictures if a little fuzzy, and the sheer amount of sightings). Look at the patterson one. It's thigh has muscle movement. How can a suit do that?
@retrobloke78 People like you think we have found everything, until BOOM, something else pops up, and when something else pops up...what does that tell you? Perhaps that we just found something new which means there are probably other things that we haven't found.
The main reason you don't see proof yet retro, is cos this is likely something entirely different and not your mere giant gorilla-like ape. America likes its myths and don't really want to give them up, so industries with an interest in certain areas have no interest in giving away footage/pics that could jeopardize their own livelihood, be it logging, hunting or whatever it is. Religion, even. lol You won't get the proof from any of those guys, you're lucky you even saw the Jacobs pix you did.
@retrobloke78 *sigh* I'm not gonna diss on someone for their beliefs, but close-minded people need to wake up and see that we haven't discovered every single tihng in the world. Do you think we have seen, recorded, and know about every single specie in the world today?
@retrobloke78 Another thing, look up giganto. It is a huge ape, extinct now I believe, but it exsisted. And thats a FACT. We have skeletal evidence of it. Now tell me why bigfoot can't be a relative of a giganto?
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@retrobloke78 Yea but the sheer amount of sightings......Hell even the president of the United States said he saw one. Now explain to me why Teddy Roosevelt would have a reason to lie about such a thing? Becuase he was a huge liar? I'm sure thats it.
This video is more compelling than the "he said she said" mumbo jumbo. It's hard to ignore the natural footprint sizes distribution, the dermal ridges on footprints,the handprints,butt print (1),Skookum, WA body print,video evidence showing distinct arm proportion,facial movements(gait analysis video at 2:56 and 2:57),muscle movement in legs, back, and face, and walking behavior typical of a heavy creature(nonlocking knees-unlike Bob H). Yet, many are threatened by the possibility of Bigfoot
@retrobloke78 Haha, aren't really there? How have there been so many sightings across the world, and how have they been so consistent? It's either they're real...or like you and so many other close-minded people say, its a hoax...and the whole world and everyone who has ever saw one is in on it. Thats a pretty big hoax.
I have no idea, what do you think they're gonna ask us first...square dancing or line dancing? Since they don't seem to want any attention, they probably want nothing from us as we see practically no attacks.
Bigfoot's not that giant Asian ape, I'm afraid it's just a romantic idea that we're somehow innocently dealing with a harmless fluffy ape here, they're a kind of people. Which makes this whole thing that much more serious, and also explaining both the non-capture history and the daily desperation shown by so-called skeptics or more precisely deniers.
Bigfoot is said to be a Gigantopithecus. They were the biggest and most powerful/dangerous gorilla species of all time. But they were said to be extinct. Maybe Bigfoot ain't fake! :)
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@retrobloke78 Yes i know i do have very special footage, but the problem is that you tubers are not used to see real honest paranormal footage in daylight and not blury or dark. THEY ARE SCARED, and its so easy to say: its fake! To be honest: i am also glad that i can’t see with my naked eyes whats flying around our heads when we spend some time in nature! And let me tell you something: the most amazing footage ive made is still waiting to be put online, have a nice day all!
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I have seen this video many times. Truly inspiring. It has been a while since i have last watched it. This last time it brought tears to my eyes. so beautiful.
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It doesn't look fake at all. YT is full of fake Bigfoot videos, this isn't one of them as I've actually explained many times. -It's got to do with her proportions how her whole build is safely ruling out a hoax here, long arms, long torso, muscle movement, hand movement, the whole nine yards. Unfakeable. You can't walk around as realistically and effortlessly in huge elaborate suits as you can without one, so the bozo saying it's him is pulling your leg just having a laugh...
Nice joke. HarryH looked like what it was, tall skinny guy in longhaired costume with human shape, which is how all movie Bigfoots look - simply because it's the only way to do it due to our human anatomy. Our body proportions are virtually the exact opposite of the more apelike shaped Sasquatch; their shorter legs compared to their longer torso. Humans are the other way around, ie, just like we see Hollywood presenting the Bigfoot as they're aware it's the only way to operate inside a costume.
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@komodoman you guys are all a bunch of idiots thats the government at work and you guys are perfect examples of how the government softens your brain....costume lmao what an idiot...
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BF believers cite North American Indian legend telling of fights with Bigfoot creatues. Sadly, the Native Americans had no written language so all accounts are anecdotal. I believe that the "Giant hairy men" the natives spoke of were probably encounters with 17th & 18th Century Spanish Colonists: campaigning on the North American continent many of the Spaniards would be large, heavily muscled men with heavy beard growth, darker complexions than the natives and wearing dulled bronze Cuirasses.
@digglyda Many Indians along the western coast speak of these 'hairy men' who are nocturnal, and steal fish from their nets...Spaniards? Indian totem poles that feature these creatures have a distinctive ape like face, complete with brow ridge and simian jawlines...Spaniards again? They all speak of how they are seldom seen, and best left alone...Spaniards yet again?
I'll pitch in there...her face was not seen anywhere but here high up on her own head...where no man has ever gone before... lol Minnie Mouse resembles Patty Bigfootty more than your weird Wah mask, that's how laughable and insanely bad it is. Nuff said.
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Yeah TRUTH you're a typical Bigfooter ---personal attacks to avoid answering the topic at hand. No proof of Bigfoot and no bigfooter has yet to explain how Pattys face was seen on a mask in a star trek episode. Major problem there but call me a pussy or fag or whatever and don't address it AGAIN.
Yeah Truth, they tell themselves it's easy to fake her walk yet nobody's ever been able to do it, tests have been silly attempts where they've tried with a few steps but it's always the typical human-faking-slouched-ape stroll... I want them to don a realistically proportioned Bigfoot suit and do it out in the open terrain, then we'll really have something to laugh at... lol
Only to gullible imbeciles who can't think for themselves, so that should be about 85% of the Earth's population...and you're it, seyeydonkey...you're among there somewhere...trollin' aLong...laughin' like you need special care...
@seymourbbest Seymour... the footage has since been enhanced through computer technology to show muscle movement. Primatologist, Anthropologist, and Cryptozoologist have extensively studied this footage to find that the animals gait or walk is unlike a humans. You'll find the footage on other documentary studies of Sasquatch/ Gigantopithicus. "Masks from Star Trek"?? "Nessie"??? Ok Seymour.. time for bed... you've got a big Social Studies test tomorrow. "See More" by removing your head from..
I'm with you on the quarantined bit, or at least I can imagine it, but this footage is no fake I'm afraid. That's why it's so dangerous to its opponents, they curse that it's available at all, it's the footage they can't control... It's out there forever so as 'skeptics' they have to come up with all sorts of excuses why it exists, one more mad than the next... If Hollywood had made BF suits look like this, even just slightly like this, even I would have doubts about it then. They never have.
ZetaTalk[.]com explanation: As we have mentioned, Bigfoot is quarantined from man, which means Bigfoot is assisted in staying hidden. On occasion there are feces or tracks which man finds, or a glimpse of a fleeting body at a distance, but nothing as concrete as a video capture has occurred. The video would have been ruined in some manner, due to the quarantine. This is a man in a suit, a well orchestrated hoax.
It's actually none of seyeytroll's business - but on he will babble about what others 'believe in' or not... Just one more scared confused and misinformed oddball, hehe.
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@komodoman Hollywood doesnt need to make outfits like this, Harry and the Henderson looked more like a bigfoot than this. also. Hollywood isnt trying to make this outfit, they have CGI , they can make king kong climb a building spend time making a stupid fake looking suit.
And why are you here, seyeyblockhead...? You have zero credibility for whatever your game is... Oh, and still no mask match...please don't be so bloody ridiculous... (:-p
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Yeah komocunt you're not worried about why pattys face matches an fX mask from that era are you? Why are you here 24\7 denying the mask then? Actions speak louder than words. In your case no actions and pure bullshit.
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Patterson wasn't making a documentary. He was making a bigfoot movie and just happened to capture one on film ? Yeah right. And one who has the exact same face as a known mask of that era. A face that matches a mask used in a star trek episode.
thats not big foot. its just my mom power walking. gosh. you guys are jerks!
meganinja07 1 week ago
Ahem, it's not fake actually. First, it may not even be an ape. The being seen here doesn't have uniform hair either, suits do. It's quite the contrary, it's messy and spotty showing skin and muscles underneath. Go on, imitate that. The gait's typical Bigfoot gait, something you can only superficially recreate. For one thing, that joker BobH locks his knees which the Bigfoot doesn't. So obviously this wanna-be hoaxer didn't do his homework, he failed big time.
reclaimerReclaimer 2 weeks ago
This is a fake film....apes in the natural wild do not have uniform hair..typical of a suit...not a primate. Everything else is grainy and NOT difficult to immitate..Grover Krants could do it and Bob Herinimous looked even better in his gait...but there are always the believers.
1927Norma 3 weeks ago
@1927Norma You can accept bigfoot, just not as your savior.
rockstarzep 2 weeks ago
Dad?
IIXxLeGEnDxX 4 weeks ago
Its shot in a place called bluff creek no further comment
halofan12345able 1 month ago
What's a "crick"?
OnceAroundTheRide 1 month ago
It's just buddy the elf
fivedollerfootlong 1 month ago
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rockstarzep 2 months ago
No fake, real Bigfoot with real Bigfoot feet. So mutant, you don't know much about costumes, fake feet are separate not a direct part of one. Duh.
reclaimerReclaimer 2 months ago 3
I mean do
thatquywithaface 3 months ago
You Dili realist the were the other side of the river right
thatquywithaface 3 months ago
FAKE. And, they didn't try to follow it .....just let her walk away???? The feet look like the bottom of a COSTUME
jerichomutant 3 months ago
It's obviously a close relative of Rosie O'Donnell's. I'd bet my life on it.
SUCKMEISTER005 3 months ago
Still real Bigfoot, moron.
reclaimerReclaimer 3 months ago
komo the fag trolling his utter clueless crap...still a suit moron
nastymonsters2 3 months ago
Only twats use big letters.
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IF BIG FOOT EXISTS,FIRE SOME TRANQUILLIZERS INTO IT AND BRING HIM IN..JOB DONE.BUT NO,NO,NO,THEY DON'T DO THAT BECAUSE IT'S ALL BULLSHIT LIES.SOME TWAT IN A HAIRY SUIT.
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momma? is that you momma???
MrLongshot1972 3 months ago
I love how you read comments wrong retro, probably deliberately, the shaking referred to was in jest about your room.
reclaimerReclaimer 4 months ago 4
You're being silly, retrolly.
reclaimerReclaimer 4 months ago 2
Slightest repositioning of hands will cause movement, everyone except you seem to understand that.
reclaimerReclaimer 4 months ago
Your daily trolling makes no sense, retroll.
reclaimerReclaimer 4 months ago
Gotta love retroll's dumb spam, getting dumber by the minute now.
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@retrobloke78
what about dozens of ppl that passed polygraph tst after hawing encounter with bigfoot?Plygraph its not enough prove to be used in court,its to much inconclusive.They walks identical to us ,becuse,we both are bipedal type of creatures.Why do they hawe to walk different anyway?We hawe same common ancesters,its obvious that they will move same on flat areas and imagine how stupid u look in eyes of ppls that seen bigfoot and know that u are just arrogant fagg with no practical knowl
Swiati 4 months ago
The Freeman footage would also be difficult to hoax,especially when the adult bigfoot picks up another one at the end-not shown in most Youtube clips of this.I don't remember any measurements of ratios of limbs, etc.,but it is very similar to the PG film.A size analysis suggests that the bigfoot is about 8.5 feet tall.The footprint left would add another degree of complexity to the hoax.I don't think that the people involved in these controversial films were sophistocated enough to hoax experts.
rockstarzep 4 months ago 9
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@retrobloke78 If Marble Mountain was a hoax, it would be a very sophistocated one, with anatomy very consistent with other accounts (ratios of limbs, legs, etc). It moves gracefully and again, if the crew is involved in the hoax, then the supposed 6 ft. model was either 4' tall or the hoaxer was about 9ft to 10 ft in a suit. There is a lot of footage (although not very clear) which increases the probability that it is not a hoax and I don't see any signs of hoax with the movements.
rockstarzep 4 months ago
And again you're wrong, retroll. lol I feel sure enough to say it'll happen in your sad lifetime now, whether you're 70 then. Technology's finally too good for continuously hiding, it was poor 40+ years ago but not anymore. Besides, 4 decades is not a long time in this search, far from it. What exists can't hide from discovery forever, there's always new discoveries being made, even primates. And they do keep finding new apes.
reclaimerReclaimer 4 months ago
Well retro, why do you babble on then? lol The footage's just visual proof, yes we already have proof basically right there, but I agree we'll need more to satisfy the dumbest skeptic. The notion they exist is based on all we know so far, not just this film but collectively. If you prefer the lame idea it's somehow a hoax, while every scientific examination of the footage says differently, then you're free to do that. We need suckers too, we can't all be right, you'll learn that in due time.
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reclaimerReclaimer 4 months ago
Dumb as fuck you are again, you haven't been here Long enough to convince us of your troll bullshit. lol It was actually eminaidiot who thought that nonsense's real where I think PGF's real, so you're clearly confusing us here, until I explained to her it was all fake grain and she had to cave in. Sorry, I don't believe in werewolves or dogmen like you, I'm not that far gone as old threads will show. But I think Bigfoots exist, the others you can keep for your fairytale carnival tours, haha.
reclaimerReclaimer 4 months ago
Wrong idiot, the Gable film is the worst piece of shit ever made and only real clowns would ever say anything else...amazing really, there's a guy with his digital gadgets in our day and age and he can't even make that look convincing enough to fool anyone - but according to a wanker like you the PGF is supposed to be a 'bad suit', yet it blows everything ever created in Hollywood clean away...hahaha. The biggest comedian here sadly is you retroller, troll a new tune for a change will ya...
reclaimerReclaimer 4 months ago
U thought wrong as usual, retroll. Can U walk, retroll? If yes, so can they. Can U run, retroll? If yes, so can they. Gable's a digital fake, suit or computer, fakes are easy to spot. Every time. The clips mentioned are real BFs, your daily babble of fear - just like your other half eminaidiot - kind of prove to the world U actually know it's true. You're well aware you're getting the same answer every day, yet you return, so your interest in what U pretend to think is a hoax isn't genuine. lol
reclaimerReclaimer 4 months ago
Actually I only 'believe' three pieces of bigfootage show the genuine thing clearly, but keep overlooking that fact retro. They are PGF, Marble Mountain and Paul Freeman. Those three are certain, most others are terrible fakes, though a few others certainly could be real but are just too unclear for determination.
reclaimerReclaimer 4 months ago 2
What evidence, retroll? BobH? lol That guy will make his real confession one day, when he's on his last leg so to speak, or maybe you think this good Christian church going man's gonna take a lie with him to his grave? Who the hell would wan to be remembered as a guy wearing fake hairy BF tits, especially when it wasn't and couldn't be him. As more evidence in favor of the new species gathers, the more pressure he'll feel to eventually spill the beans that he was taking you for a ride all aLong.
reclaimerReclaimer 4 months ago 2
@reclaimerReclaimer Like I've posted before, the Bob H thing is just really really....really X 10,659 weak. If I was a doubter, I wouldn't put any faith in that claim. I even watched the crummy lie detector test on tv. He look really really scared. He probably trained on how to pass the test, and hoped that it would work. It is really unconvincing, honestly.
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Retro you make me laugh...oooh yeahhhh
Jrld11 4 months ago
No, it's based on statistics in sighting reports. But I see you can't wait, retro...must be why you're here all the time, eh?
reclaimerReclaimer 4 months ago 2
I'm not trying to convince you of anything retroll, just telling you what I think, to you on the other hand it seems very important that people think like you. Summer? I'm sure there's been some encounters already but most sightings are in October actually, but you wouldn't know that of course...haha...
reclaimerReclaimer 4 months ago 2
Why do you keep discussing it then, retro...if you think it's not rational? lol
reclaimerReclaimer 5 months ago 4
Clown feet. lmao Patty's look spot on exactly like they should, same shape and form as tracks found. You know very well how some of us get the 7ft. No suit's hiding the legs here, I trust you'll agree, because every normal person can see that. You, I'm not so sure about of course, but most do recognize they're clearly visible. So if that's BobH's legs we see, how can the figure be only 6ft, and him operate the top when it's much longer than his. See how it doesn't add up and can only be taller.
reclaimerReclaimer 5 months ago 2
I think I'll ignore it, gilbert...like you ignore the obvious right in front of you... You still need to answer how we can see the legs in full, yet you still think it's BobH - whose legs look nothing like this. And that's not even the most crucial point, the crusher blow is the top... If that's a 6ft figure, and all of the legs seen, what happened to his upper body showing full arm/head movements. Interestingly enough, you don't see this... Can't be 6ft then, can it.
reclaimerReclaimer 5 months ago
@reclaimerReclaimer
I'll ask once again, do you have any measurements for Pattys inhuman torso?
GilbertSyndrome 5 months ago
Just all cheap excuses. Munns has basically shot down what Pruitt says, like the Charlie Gemora stuff, etc. None of these guys, apart from Munns, checked out the film itself upclose. Gimme a break with all the 'different pieces' or 'two pieces' stuff, it's perfectly clear even to me she's in one piece whatever she is. Whenever I hear or read their words, it seems to me f/x guys can't do BFs well & need the PGF to be fake in order higher themselves somehow. Any fucker can see it's not pieces. lol
reclaimerReclaimer 5 months ago
@reclaimerReclaimer
Munns was shot down by Pruitt when he claimed that no ape suit came in 2 pieces. Whether you want to deny this or ignore it is up to you, but Munns has no clue about 60's creature suits, something which Jeff looked into with great detail, i'm sure if you'd brought this up with him he'd clarify it for you. Many FX people claim that Patty is a man in a suit, there are pictures which show aspects of Patty in other suits, not in nature, but in monster suits.
GilbertSyndrome 5 months ago
It's either known or unknown, no two ways about it. Sure, contamination happens but not always. If they get enough over time, it shows something building up we can start to conclude things from. We're not there yet, but don't be surprised when we are, we should be perfectly prepared for it by now. It's either an ape/animal or something even more human, and if it's the latter we already know attacks are few if any so fears should fade. An 'uncontrollable wild ape' out there would confuse folks...
reclaimerReclaimer 5 months ago
If they get enough DNA of it, and it's an unknown primate, surely that means it's real DNA...from a new unknown species.
reclaimerReclaimer 5 months ago
@reclaimerReclaimer
Primate DNA and human DNA are not very far removed, my point is, how do you know if you've got a contaminated sample of DNA that has been in contact with a person or persons, aswell as other creatures? "Unknown" DNA in the world of such matters, apparantly just means that not enough information is there to begin with.
Its wishful thinking to latch onto unknown DNA as the term "unknown" is widely misused in most accounts.
GilbertSyndrome 5 months ago
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Rock the huge majority of scientists do say the PGF is fake. Even many bigfooters say its fake. On last years Discovery channel's Bigfoot show of the 5 bigfoot "experts" on the panel only Jeff"elk bone" Meldrum said he was sure the film was real.and he has been caught in false statements about PGF.
seymourbbest 5 months ago
No they wouldn't say that, gilbert. -They'd do what they're doing now already, waiting on their lazy behinds for more new crucial evidence. Eventually that waiting is over, especially when they get better DNA it's all over for ya...
reclaimerReclaimer 5 months ago
@reclaimerReclaimer
DNA has to be cross referenced with DNA of a matching species... You can't find crappy DNA that comes up as "unknown," which means "not enough data" and then claim that it belongs to a Sasquatch, thats so far away from being scientific that you might aswell start making up new species to go along with the millions of bad DNA collected.
GilbertSyndrome 5 months ago
There's plenty of evidence, retroll...it's you not seeing it as such. Movement? There's nothing but, that's why you see through the hair at times, skin remember, depending on her movements... I think your brain has separate pieces...hahaha, who was it...a Dr. Frank N. Stein that put it back together again, right? No close-ups? Hehe...old cameras didn't have zooms, sorry. All your lame excuses is why you're regarded a troll around here...hey, don't look so surprised now... lol
reclaimerReclaimer 5 months ago
Jeez... Same old shot to shit crap. Doesn't make sense to leave stuff like that on an anatomically correct/realistic suit, now would it. It's been addressed with perfect sense 100s of times, but you refuse to listen, that's why we're still telling you until it sinks in. It is her skin, and it is her hair. There. That's not so hard to understand, now is it? You see those (perhaps less hairy) spots, all depending on her moves in the film and the sunlight on her. Still too difficult?
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SuperJohnnybandit 5 months ago
Huh, you're not making any sense there.
komodoman 5 months ago 2
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As you know Joey we were not talking about a "muscle" line up the back. It was a "fur" line. No primate on Earth has a fur line up its back like Bigfoot in PGF. That you have to lie and pretend it was muscles instead of fur we were referring to is very telling. Why the need to lie if bigfoot is real?
seymourbbest 5 months ago
I've had EVERY skeptic from Emintardo to retroidiot tell me that there is NO line up a primates back like the one seen in the Patterson footage...google "Gorillas back'...well...behold!! The first, FIRST, I say FIRST image is a gorilla with a line up his back...(it's where all of the back muscle adhere)..I guess Janos Prohaska made that lowlanfd gorilla too...
joeyvader 5 months ago 9
@joeyvader
Most great apes have a line running down their back, but they don't have visible panty lines downstairs... To this day, no'one has given an explanation, nor have they properly addressed this with logic. Patty is wearing undies... how is that a biological artifact? Its as clear as day, panty lines are visible.
GilbertSyndrome 5 months ago
@GilbertSyndrome If that was true, the entire scientific community would say, "yes, it's a hoax". But that is not even considered to be an issue to discuss. It's a similar analogy to the comments such as "you can see his face- what a joke, it's fake", or "he's wearing sneakers, it's fake".
rockstarzep 5 months ago 3
@rockstarzep
Well its there for you to see, unless you deny it, which would be odd if you believed you could see muscle movement.
If this was a real Bigfoot then the entire scientific community would say "yes, its a real Bigfoot."
GilbertSyndrome 5 months ago
@GilbertSyndrome This 'diaper' issue is always brought up by you folks...I've NEVER heard any of the fx teams that have looked at it mention this obvious give-away of hoaxery...what do you think of the Henson shop and their findings?? Why does one of the premier creature crafters say "I have NO IDEA how they would have built a suit like this in 1967..!" Can't HE see the 'diaper'..??
joeyvader 5 months ago
@joeyvader
Its there, plain as day, so you're outright denying that its even there?
Name me 3 "FX teams" who've looked at it and said "its not a hoax,"
The Henson shop who make puppets? Funny how you're naming one man, from a one team, and ignoring the many many others who say "its a suit."
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joeyvader 5 months ago
I would ignore any team that does NO analysis to come up with their findings...I find it a little harder to listen to one of the BEST fx artists in his field who, after THE closest examination of the film to date, comes away puzzled by what the subject really is..
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@GilbertSyndrome Yes..the Henson shop makes 'puppets'..have you any idea the cutting edge animatronic animals they make? 'puppets'..would you like a list of their Emmys and Oscars for 'puppets'..I will NOT ignore ANY other team that says it's fake...show me their notes and findings and I will NOT ignore them at all..have you got ONE fx team that has done that...does that include Winstions famous sound byte, that he reached with NO analysis?? Which fx teams are you referring?
joeyvader 5 months ago
@joeyvader
A lot of people have brought up the diaper issue, including FX techs and costume makers who've visited forums like the BFF or the JREF. I can't find more than 3 costume makers who even think its a real Bigfoot.
GilbertSyndrome 5 months ago
@GilbertSyndrome Names credentials and research notes please...I will read them entirely...bet I will have NOTHING to read!!!
joeyvader 5 months ago 7
@joeyvader
I'll get you some names and credentials and you do the same for me, eh?
GilbertSyndrome 5 months ago
@joeyvader
Effects makeup artist Dave Kindlon, makeup artist Howard Berger, both are now head of KNB Effects Group and both have worked with Rick Baker, who i may add, also believes its a suit. Bob Burns, Hollywoods ape impersonator.
Kindlon, Berger and Burns all commented that aspects of Patty looked similar to suits and tricks used by Charlie Gemora.
John Vulich of Optic Nerve studios, effects artist Bart Mixon and makeup artist Jim McPherson. Werner Keppler, make up artist.
GilbertSyndrome 5 months ago
@joeyvader
Tom Burman, one of Hollywood's top makeup artists, Stan Winston... there's a lot of names coming up here, and brief comments by some of them about how they think the suit was made. With a little more research i can find more names and comments, i remember seeing a full list on a forum somewhere, i'll dig that out.
GilbertSyndrome 5 months ago
@joeyvader
Many of the names i just mentioned all speak of what many people here have spoken about, including Jeff Pruitt, that the suit was likely put together using different pieces. The main account i keep hearing is that the suit itself is a modified bear costume, not an ape costume.
GilbertSyndrome 5 months ago
@joeyvader
Academy Award winning creature fx expert Chris Walas claimed that Patty was made in two sections as Heironimus described and Bill Munns claimed he had never seen any hair suit like that before. All professional ape suits of top quality used that design.
GilbertSyndrome 5 months ago
I've read all about all of the mentioned effects guys you have named..as can anyone with a computer...every single one of those effects guys mentioned say "Yeah...I heard that Rick Baker heard that it was made by John Chambers...etc. etc.." Not ONE of them has any analysis for me to peruse...not one..well..only the Henson shop put the subject under the microscope..but they don't count, because the Jim Henson Creature Shop only makes, as you maintain, 'puppets'.
joeyvader 5 months ago 3
@joeyvader
Who is the premier creature-man at the Henson shop and what is his analysis of Patty, what does he point out that proves beyond a doubt that Patty is a real creature and not a man in a suit?
Jeff Pruitt has done some of the more detailed research, explaining aspects of the suit, including the diaper, among other things, i can point you to certain pages at the JREF where he has listed these aspects and also showed pictures to demonstrate that they were being used pre PGF.
GilbertSyndrome 5 months ago
Why is Jeff Pruitt, a stuntman who has NEVER sculpted or cast a single fx prop of ANY kind to be listened too?? Peter Burke is the head of Henson's shop...watch him look into the footage here on yt 'AP Bigfoot" is the clip...it's in several parts, but very interesting to see him be surprised at all of the detail he finds from having the film to digitize..but...they only make 'puppets'...unlike Pruitt who's special effect credentials include..uhh...nothing...??
joeyvader 5 months ago 3
@joeyvader
Jeff has created many suits, though he's not an acredited fx technician, he does make creature suits. He actually used to fly the flag for the PGF, then he was asked to write an article on the subject and he then changed his mind based on people he'd spoken to and things he's seen.
He points out aspects of Patty that were being used prior to '67, he shows evidence of this through pictures and links. He's tried similar parts on and spoken to many fx techs about the process.
GilbertSyndrome 5 months ago
@joeyvader
When i get back from my run i'll be happy to PM you some links to pages where Jeff explains everything i've mentioned in detail, he's even posted many pictures showing everything from the foam padding to the thigh pads (which appear as a line across the thigh in Patty aswell as on the legs of the wearers in the pictures) the diaper is also explained, and many other details that he uncovered when investigating the claims that it couldn't be a suit.
GilbertSyndrome 5 months ago
@joeyvader
Jeff has created a few things, including anamatronic ape arms, i think you can see those in his video, he also made the static Bigfoot-looking statue in that video, he's reconstructed the foam padding reportedly used in the Patterson suit and has made his own, very similar looking Patty feet, he's overlayed these against a picture of the Patty feet, and they are identical.
Like i said, i'll get ahold of these pages and PM them to you, i'm off for my nightly run.
GilbertSyndrome 5 months ago
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"what is his analysis of Patty, what does he point out that proves beyond a doubt that Patty is a real creature and not a man in a suit?" I NEVER claimed he said that at all..
joeyvader 5 months ago
@GilbertSyndrome Just saw yer quote from Dumb and Dumber...my personal fave is "Oh theres' lottsa jobs out ther' "Yeah, if ya wann work 40 hrs a week!!!" Classic morons!!...and "Look at the ass on THAT!!" "Yeah...he must work out..."
joeyvader 5 months ago 3
@joeyvader
"According to the map we've only gone 4 inches...."
GilbertSyndrome 5 months ago
@GilbertSyndrome RIOT!!!
joeyvader 5 months ago 3
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with a skee mask on
vancejrscott 5 months ago
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its a bum in a coat idiots
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SuperJohnnybandit 5 months ago
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There's a problem with the 3D analysts that put a virtual skeleton model inside the thing in this clip for motion capture tests? Shouldn't they also recreate a model based on the skeleton of a man inside a bulky padded suit? The investigations all assume that the skeleton is a fit for a massive creature but if it's a guy in a suit the dimensions of the model would all need adjusting? We can't even know for certain how tall this thing is. I think Gimlin will speak up eventually.
digglyda 5 months ago
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Lol it's probably shaq in the suit
HomeBoyTellEm28 5 months ago
I BELIEVE.
softndsmooth 6 months ago 37
Paterson had found footprint evidence in the area years before and in other areas on occasion.He got lucky.The dynamics of movement of the creature should resemble a human and it matches the dynamics of the prints found and casted, not the balloons for feet that would have resulted from the claimed mask which is an over-the-top joke.Its not the simple, this and anything else must be analyzed and studied in detail before coming to a conclusion.I would not want to debate in court if I was a denier
rockstarzep 6 months ago 7
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I used to think this a good film but the more I've looked into the more I'm convinced it's a Hoax. Paterson spent years trying to get a bigfoot film to sell and make money from it and after years of failure he decided to get a friend of his to put a suit and it looks like a suit if you look. This bigfoot is clearly man size and walks like a guy in a suit. Sorry for all of you who want to believe this but it's a hoax. The guy in the suit still lives in the area, it's good for tourism.
Astro1645 6 months ago
@Astro1645
Which guy in a suit does this footage look like? Please direct me to a clip of a guy in a suit that looks and walks like the Patterson subject. I bet you can't do that for me.
LaughingGravy31 5 months ago 3
@LaughingGravy31
Can you show me any other footage of a *cough cough* "Bigfoot," shot from 100 yards, for about 30 seconds on a grainy Kodachrome whilst the camera shakes? I bet you can't do that for me.
GilbertSyndrome 5 months ago
@GilbertSyndrome
The camera doesn't 'shake' during the famous part of the footage and it's not actually 'grainy'. It's the blow ups that make it look grainy. The actual full footage isn't grainy.
Please, do your homework. You are making beginner's mistakes.
LaughingGravy31 5 months ago 3
@LaughingGravy31
All Kodachrome was grainy, it certainly wasn't clear. The grain now comes from the fact that this footage has been copied and blown up more times than Jaws.
GilbertSyndrome 5 months ago
@GilbertSyndrome
""The grain now comes from the fact that this footage has been copied and blown up more times than Jaws.""
Why are you repeating something I already pointed out to YOU?
LaughingGravy31 5 months ago 3
Beginners mistakes? haha, i've been following this "mystery" for a long time, but nice try at making ASSumptions.
GilbertSyndrome 5 months ago
@GilbertSyndrome
Yep beginner's mistakes. You've just made two beginner's whoppers.
1. The camera isn't 'shaken'. It's moving due to forward locomotion from Patterson. He's moving towards the creature. Then he stops and gets stable footage. He isn't 'shaking' the camera.
2. The footage isn't grainy. It's the blow ups that make it look grainy.
The footage is actually reasonably clear and stable during the most important segment, especially for such an old camera.
LaughingGravy31 5 months ago 3
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You don't know if the camera was shaken or not, haha, you're basing this on guesswork and assumption, and i never said the camera was shaken, i said the same result could be attributed to someone shaking said camera. Read a little more carefully next time. The footage was grainy even before the copies, Kodachrome, and more specifically Kodachrome 2, wasn't the best quality footage out there and was notoriously difficult to have developed.
GilbertSyndrome 5 months ago
wtf is this freak...?
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this Creature was real then and now , just as real as the dick on your forehead Komodoman
theelohimme 6 months ago
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this Creature was real then and now , just as real as the dick on your forhead Komodoman
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MegaFictionwriter 6 months ago
@retrobloke78 @retrobloke78 Hahaha ok, by that description right there I can understand how you and others can be doubtful.Lol, but still, I stand by these facts. 1. Too many consistent sightings, thousands of sightings that all say the same thing. 2. We haven't discovered everything on Earth. 3. the evidence (tracks, pictures if a little fuzzy, and the sheer amount of sightings). Look at the patterson one. It's thigh has muscle movement. How can a suit do that?
BlackM4maba213 6 months ago 11
@retrobloke78 People like you think we have found everything, until BOOM, something else pops up, and when something else pops up...what does that tell you? Perhaps that we just found something new which means there are probably other things that we haven't found.
BlackM4maba213 6 months ago 7
@retrobloke78 So you really think we've seen every single thing that lives on land?
BlackM4maba213 6 months ago 8
The main reason you don't see proof yet retro, is cos this is likely something entirely different and not your mere giant gorilla-like ape. America likes its myths and don't really want to give them up, so industries with an interest in certain areas have no interest in giving away footage/pics that could jeopardize their own livelihood, be it logging, hunting or whatever it is. Religion, even. lol You won't get the proof from any of those guys, you're lucky you even saw the Jacobs pix you did.
komodoman 6 months ago
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MegaSparrow2010 6 months ago
@retrobloke78 *sigh* I'm not gonna diss on someone for their beliefs, but close-minded people need to wake up and see that we haven't discovered every single tihng in the world. Do you think we have seen, recorded, and know about every single specie in the world today?
BlackM4maba213 6 months ago 10
@retrobloke78 Another thing, look up giganto. It is a huge ape, extinct now I believe, but it exsisted. And thats a FACT. We have skeletal evidence of it. Now tell me why bigfoot can't be a relative of a giganto?
BlackM4maba213 6 months ago 8
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@retrobloke78 Sure presidents lie...but why the hell would he lie about seeing a bigfoot? Give me one, legitimate reason.
BlackM4maba213 6 months ago
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@retrobloke78 Yea but the sheer amount of sightings......Hell even the president of the United States said he saw one. Now explain to me why Teddy Roosevelt would have a reason to lie about such a thing? Becuase he was a huge liar? I'm sure thats it.
BlackM4maba213 6 months ago
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This video is more compelling than the "he said she said" mumbo jumbo. It's hard to ignore the natural footprint sizes distribution, the dermal ridges on footprints,the handprints,butt print (1),Skookum, WA body print,video evidence showing distinct arm proportion,facial movements(gait analysis video at 2:56 and 2:57),muscle movement in legs, back, and face, and walking behavior typical of a heavy creature(nonlocking knees-unlike Bob H). Yet, many are threatened by the possibility of Bigfoot
rockstarzep 6 months ago
@retrobloke78 Haha, aren't really there? How have there been so many sightings across the world, and how have they been so consistent? It's either they're real...or like you and so many other close-minded people say, its a hoax...and the whole world and everyone who has ever saw one is in on it. Thats a pretty big hoax.
BlackM4maba213 6 months ago 9
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Total BS!
zgomer1 6 months ago
@zgomer1 explain how.
BlackM4maba213 6 months ago 8
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Haha, it walked like the grinch :D
DoubleRainbow27 7 months ago
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he looks like chuck norris
TheHackenberga 7 months ago
No attacks, you know this how?
komodoman 7 months ago
I have no idea, what do you think they're gonna ask us first...square dancing or line dancing? Since they don't seem to want any attention, they probably want nothing from us as we see practically no attacks.
komodoman 7 months ago 2
Let 'em watch ya...
komodoman 7 months ago
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komodoman 7 months ago
Bigfoot's not that giant Asian ape, I'm afraid it's just a romantic idea that we're somehow innocently dealing with a harmless fluffy ape here, they're a kind of people. Which makes this whole thing that much more serious, and also explaining both the non-capture history and the daily desperation shown by so-called skeptics or more precisely deniers.
komodoman 7 months ago
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Giaganto was exclusive to SE Asia. Giganto is just a desperate attempt by bigfooters to try and give their myths some validity.
seymourbbest 7 months ago
Bigfoot is said to be a Gigantopithecus. They were the biggest and most powerful/dangerous gorilla species of all time. But they were said to be extinct. Maybe Bigfoot ain't fake! :)
Brollyhero99TOP10 8 months ago
Maybe because he's not.
komodoman 8 months ago
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how can this man stand in front of a camera a say outright lies?
redrumm222 8 months ago
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I believe that Mr. Gimlin believes.
talon115 8 months ago
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bigfoot gave him the cold shoulder. and then walked da pimps walk
MegaLink117 9 months ago
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@retrobloke78 Yes i know i do have very special footage, but the problem is that you tubers are not used to see real honest paranormal footage in daylight and not blury or dark. THEY ARE SCARED, and its so easy to say: its fake! To be honest: i am also glad that i can’t see with my naked eyes whats flying around our heads when we spend some time in nature! And let me tell you something: the most amazing footage ive made is still waiting to be put online, have a nice day all!
superbolt2012 10 months ago
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@retrobloke78 Can’t we be friends? Then u can buy me a ticket to the moon /o\o/o\o/o\ BTW what weed are u talking about?
superbolt2012 10 months ago
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I have seen this video many times. Truly inspiring. It has been a while since i have last watched it. This last time it brought tears to my eyes. so beautiful.
If you like to see real paranormal footage in daylight, HD quality, full color watch my channel
superbolt2012 10 months ago
It doesn't look fake at all. YT is full of fake Bigfoot videos, this isn't one of them as I've actually explained many times. -It's got to do with her proportions how her whole build is safely ruling out a hoax here, long arms, long torso, muscle movement, hand movement, the whole nine yards. Unfakeable. You can't walk around as realistically and effortlessly in huge elaborate suits as you can without one, so the bozo saying it's him is pulling your leg just having a laugh...
komodoman 10 months ago 4
Fans, retro. lol Think what you like, I still say this footage is 100% the real deal Sasquatch.
komodoman 10 months ago 5
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Cryptozoology novel see video book trailer
dltanner99 10 months ago
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FAKE
bigdanvip 10 months ago
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PROOF my father was the man in the bigfoot costume.
Search Big Foot Frank (uploaded Feb. 26th 2011)
tubengagements 11 months ago
@tubengagements this is real and no there was no costume found
TheUfoKidFresno 10 months ago 12
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@TheUfoKidFresno Your lame and fake, I wish they made a costume of you, I'd wear it.
MrHellJew 10 months ago
Hu-man, yeah, unknown species of usually between 7ft and 9ft.
komodoman 11 months ago 7
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That's a man, baby!
barnabas50 1 year ago
Nice joke. HarryH looked like what it was, tall skinny guy in longhaired costume with human shape, which is how all movie Bigfoots look - simply because it's the only way to do it due to our human anatomy. Our body proportions are virtually the exact opposite of the more apelike shaped Sasquatch; their shorter legs compared to their longer torso. Humans are the other way around, ie, just like we see Hollywood presenting the Bigfoot as they're aware it's the only way to operate inside a costume.
komodoman 1 year ago 18
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@komodoman you guys are all a bunch of idiots thats the government at work and you guys are perfect examples of how the government softens your brain....costume lmao what an idiot...
jefster1961 5 months ago
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BF believers cite North American Indian legend telling of fights with Bigfoot creatues. Sadly, the Native Americans had no written language so all accounts are anecdotal. I believe that the "Giant hairy men" the natives spoke of were probably encounters with 17th & 18th Century Spanish Colonists: campaigning on the North American continent many of the Spaniards would be large, heavily muscled men with heavy beard growth, darker complexions than the natives and wearing dulled bronze Cuirasses.
digglyda 1 year ago
@digglyda Many Indians along the western coast speak of these 'hairy men' who are nocturnal, and steal fish from their nets...Spaniards? Indian totem poles that feature these creatures have a distinctive ape like face, complete with brow ridge and simian jawlines...Spaniards again? They all speak of how they are seldom seen, and best left alone...Spaniards yet again?
joeyvader 10 months ago
@joeyvader exactly...
208stroker1 10 months ago
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big foots vs humans vs ailens motherfucking world war 3
MrDjhomes 1 year ago
DON'T WORRY GUYS FBI'S MAIN GOAL IS SEARCH AND DESTROY
99455172 1 year ago
Negative nastybob, it's called sense... 'We'...lol...it's only you, dummy...
komodoman 1 year ago 9
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funny how nearly a 100% of post on here with any thumbs up are from the idiot komodo. or "2thumbs up" as we like to call him now.
nastymonsters1 1 year ago
I'll pitch in there...her face was not seen anywhere but here high up on her own head...where no man has ever gone before... lol Minnie Mouse resembles Patty Bigfootty more than your weird Wah mask, that's how laughable and insanely bad it is. Nuff said.
komodoman 1 year ago 10
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Yeah TRUTH you're a typical Bigfooter ---personal attacks to avoid answering the topic at hand. No proof of Bigfoot and no bigfooter has yet to explain how Pattys face was seen on a mask in a star trek episode. Major problem there but call me a pussy or fag or whatever and don't address it AGAIN.
seymourbbest 1 year ago
Yeah Truth, they tell themselves it's easy to fake her walk yet nobody's ever been able to do it, tests have been silly attempts where they've tried with a few steps but it's always the typical human-faking-slouched-ape stroll... I want them to don a realistically proportioned Bigfoot suit and do it out in the open terrain, then we'll really have something to laugh at... lol
komodoman 1 year ago 11
Only to gullible imbeciles who can't think for themselves, so that should be about 85% of the Earth's population...and you're it, seyeydonkey...you're among there somewhere...trollin' aLong...laughin' like you need special care...
komodoman 1 year ago 21
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Yes Psam a man in a suit. Its been proven.
seymourbbest 1 year ago
@seymourbbest Seymour... the footage has since been enhanced through computer technology to show muscle movement. Primatologist, Anthropologist, and Cryptozoologist have extensively studied this footage to find that the animals gait or walk is unlike a humans. You'll find the footage on other documentary studies of Sasquatch/ Gigantopithicus. "Masks from Star Trek"?? "Nessie"??? Ok Seymour.. time for bed... you've got a big Social Studies test tomorrow. "See More" by removing your head from..
TheTruthHurts4313 1 year ago 7
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I'm with you on the quarantined bit, or at least I can imagine it, but this footage is no fake I'm afraid. That's why it's so dangerous to its opponents, they curse that it's available at all, it's the footage they can't control... It's out there forever so as 'skeptics' they have to come up with all sorts of excuses why it exists, one more mad than the next... If Hollywood had made BF suits look like this, even just slightly like this, even I would have doubts about it then. They never have.
komodoman 1 year ago 49
ZetaTalk[.]com explanation: As we have mentioned, Bigfoot is quarantined from man, which means Bigfoot is assisted in staying hidden. On occasion there are feces or tracks which man finds, or a glimpse of a fleeting body at a distance, but nothing as concrete as a video capture has occurred. The video would have been ruined in some manner, due to the quarantine. This is a man in a suit, a well orchestrated hoax.
Psamiad1986 1 year ago
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It's actually none of seyeytroll's business - but on he will babble about what others 'believe in' or not... Just one more scared confused and misinformed oddball, hehe.
komodoman 1 year ago 48
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@komodoman Hollywood doesnt need to make outfits like this, Harry and the Henderson looked more like a bigfoot than this. also. Hollywood isnt trying to make this outfit, they have CGI , they can make king kong climb a building spend time making a stupid fake looking suit.
donisthabomb1 1 year ago
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@donisthabomb1 "Harry and the Henderson looked more like a bigfoot than this.,," Really? How many have you seen?
joeyvader 10 months ago
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You're correct Mickey----im sure most of the same uneducated rednecks who believe in Bigfoot also believe in Nessie.
seymourbbest 1 year ago
And why are you here, seyeyblockhead...? You have zero credibility for whatever your game is... Oh, and still no mask match...please don't be so bloody ridiculous... (:-p
komodoman 1 year ago 10
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Yeah komocunt you're not worried about why pattys face matches an fX mask from that era are you? Why are you here 24\7 denying the mask then? Actions speak louder than words. In your case no actions and pure bullshit.
seymourbbest 1 year ago
Yeah, right... Oh, and NOOOO mask match... lmao
komodoman 1 year ago 11
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Patterson wasn't making a documentary. He was making a bigfoot movie and just happened to capture one on film ? Yeah right. And one who has the exact same face as a known mask of that era. A face that matches a mask used in a star trek episode.
seymourbbest 1 year ago