Kuznietsov - WR Attempt 243kg. Clean & Jerk 1988 Olympics

[laiosto]

At the end of the video,a rather grim looking Soviet coach pulls along by the elbow as if he is taking Pavel off to a shooting squad for missing that attempt.

[Rollerfahrer666]

stupid russian^^

[sirlew]

If it had been me I would not have missed the jerk. But of course Kuznetsov was only a youngster then and could not really be expected to have the experience of someone like myself...

[Zoidypoo89]

Funny how people here seem to think that american athletes don't use steroids too, since it's so freakin' common in the USA. Yeah, everobody uses it, just not the athletes, right?

[RedWildz]

@Zoidypoo89

US athletes are subject to random year round testing even in amateur leagues. Yes, some weightlifting athletes here probably do juice. But none come near a team like the Bulgarians. Note that the grand majority of our entertainment athletes do roid, but that's irrelevant.

[Zoidypoo89]

@RedWildz You're naive if you think that american athletes don't take steroids. It's very prevalent in weightlifting overall. Yes, the guy lifting probably took it, but so does most of the american athletes, and they don't come close to lifting that amount of weight anyway. It's just silly to just yell steroids in this case, since most everyone use it

[RedWildz]

@Zoidypoo89

It's actually not too naive. You clearly know very little about American weightlifting drug testing policies. I am not saying that our top lifters have never touched steroids, but I AM asserting that they do not use anywhere near the volume of other country's lifters. If you truly believe that in a country of 300 million people there just isn't the genetic potential or dedication to put up respectable numbers, you're an idiot. Plain and simple. There is another variable. Drugs.

[Zoidypoo89]

@RedWildz Ok, so now we're doing name calling? If you're a typical youtuber who can't have a discussion without name calling, I want nothing to do with you. USA's steroid testing is very, very weak. And yes, other countries do steroids too. But it's very prevalent in weightlifting in general, and americans aren't shy around their drugs usually. And I wouldn't put my faith in the american drug tests at all. Look at NFL, NBA, etc etc...why would it be different in weightlifting?

[RedWildz]

@Zoidypoo89

I admitted to entertainment athletes partaking in steroids. Drug testing is not as stringent there as it would harm the purpose of the sport: profit. These athletes are not competing on an international stage, and thus the testing policies are much different. When it comes to weightlifting, USA's policies are far stronger than just about any other country's. Mandatory membership with random testing multiple times a year to maintain activity and to compete anywhere.

[Zoidypoo89]

@RedWildz That sounds like the drug policy that a lot of countries have, to me. All nordic countries have those policies for example, Australia has it, etc. You can't compare USA's drug policy only to Iran, Russia and China, for obvious reasons. And if you compare to a (sort of) similar sport, powerlifting, there's A LOT of steroid usage. And no testing, at all. Then you have all the sprinters etc who have tested positive for steroids, from America

[RedWildz]

@Zoidypoo89

There are many powerlifting federations that test their lifters within the US. Beyond that, PLing is even less recgonized in the US than most Olympic sports, including weightlifting. In this case, it is most relevant to compare the US policies to Iran, Russia and China's... since those are the biggest competitors.

[Zoidypoo89]

@RedWildz I just think you're setting the bar too low when you compare like that. Everyone knows that those countries don't have the drug policies that they should have. Is it something to be proud of that you're better than Iran?

[RedWildz]

@Zoidypoo89

Well, the aim is to defend the integrity of the US lifters against those who assume they are simply not talented enough to succeed -- or that the Chinese, Iranians and Russians are definitively superior athletes. There are many folks in other countries that truly believe US lifters dine on steroids daily, but that they just "suck."

[Zoidypoo89]

@RedWildz I'm 100% sure that there is plenty of weightlifters in the US that also take steroids. Just because you take steroids doesn't make you good. How come you have the mentality that american athletes must be the best at everything, and if they're not, everyone else just takes more roids than you do? There are plenty of sports where the US isn't the best

[Zoidypoo89]

@RedWildz And if you compare your population to the whole world's population, you're a minority. So why in the world should US athletes be the best at everything? Especially weightlifting that is SO much technique, you can't just roid up and be the best in the world. There are plenty of people in the world who does roids, and guess what? Russia, Iran and China are still the best, of all the people who does roids. And no, I'm not from either of those countries.

[Zoidypoo89]

@RedWildz So yeah, I think I'll have to agree that either you don't have an efficient enough way of training, or you just don't have the best in the world at weightlifting. You can't just blame it all on the steroids. I would still love to hear what your opinion is on the other sports that you're not the best at, if that's also just because of roids...

[Zoidypoo89]

@RedWildz My point is, look at China for example, they have more than three times the population that you do. Why would your population be so much better than theirs, when they have a lot more people that could potentially be really good at weightlifting?

[RedWildz]

@Zoidypoo89

I assure you if weightlifting took off in the US, the policies would likely be changed or be conveniently overturned more often in favor of strengthening the performance of the athletes. However, public interest for weightlifting in the US is abysmal compared to 50-60 years go. Football without steroids would be mundane compared to it's current form, so they are allowed for profit's sake. The popularity just isn't there for weightlifting here.

[Zoidypoo89]

@RedWildz And yeah, I can agree to NFL not being the same thing as weightlifting, but it's a bit odd that there are so many powerlifting federations in the US without any drug testing at all, and you can't deny that a comparison could be made with other olympic sports, such as 100 meter sprint, for example. There are a lot of "actual athletes" who have done steroids in the US

[yatinshams]

@RedWildz I completely agree, the drug policies for smaller sports are stringent and there is more than enough knowledge and potential to create world class lifter in the U.S... n anyone to say that there isn't genetic potential WELL look at pretty much all other sports that u.s funds well and actually cares about!!! U.S is more than competitive in other sports

[Mizzles240]

243? the fuck? who does that? jesus?

[TBW92]

brb cleaning 535 pounds

[msurferh1]

Yall realize this is youtube right? Everyone thinks their opinion matters. Don't argue with a nobody. A farmer doesn't bother telling a pig his breath smells like shit.

[smouldering]

rofl @ the fuckhead americans who believe the shit on discovery channel where they talk as if only americans don't dope. get real idiots - americans dope as much as every other nation. i don't have a problem with doping - i have a problem with the stupid rules which just pushes doping under the carpet.

[icecreamrulz420ya]

in soviet russia you dont lift weights, weights lift you !!!

[skirts365]

Three hundred fifteen pounds over and above his own weight and most men can't dead lift 315!! I saw pro athletes in "Superstars" struggle to do half that off racks, and they were bigger than him.

[WaT3rb0y619]

@skirts365 weight lifters are "pro athletes" so that is why they are better at their own sport

[murozman]

Haha before the days of Rezazadeh.

[sammcl16890]

@murozman Different class.

[rayjr62]

@murozman he was only 10 years old when this Olympics was aired.

[MetalCamelChannel]

I can't even deadlift that...

[nishiskicking]

Thought he almost had it to. Great effort none the less

[ericssson]

FUCK that dude was a freak that fat fag Mark Henry couldn't even do that at 360 LB

[grandan100]

I must say that is one of the most impressive feats of weightlifting I have ever seen. Even if he did not successfully complete the lift, it is a staggering amount of weight for anyone, most especially someone of his body weight, to do what he just did. Hats off to you Mr. Kuznietsov.

[300MUSIC]

is there a difference in powerlifting and normal weightlifting?

[LayEmOut60]

just the fact that he could even clean that weight at that bodyweight is insane. This is still one of the most impressive olympic lifting videos I've ever seen.

[freedomsoldier187]

I didn't think he was gonna get that, for that bodyweight that weight is fucking rediculous

thats like saying to the 105+ guys do 270

[jgrimsl1]

This is pretty amazing and those of you saying that the US would beat every country if weightlifting was popular are correct - look at the athletes in the NFL - the most explosive athletes in the world.

[SunDownPoint]

lol you have no clue what your talking about... Europe has always and probably always will be the leaders in weightlifting sports.

[jgrimsl1]

Never said they are not or will not be in the future. Just saying that there's more raw talent in terms explosive strength in the US than anywhere else. The talent is just not being utilized in weightlifting due to lack of knowledge and interest. All the talent I m speaking of is in the NFL.

[SunDownPoint]

Well that's your opinion... and most probably because you are an american and have never left your country and seen the culture of other countries. Americans are quick ones to make judgements on how they think the world works without having ever seen it... just my 2 cents.

[jgrimsl1]

You're right about how Americans think, however, I only come to that conclusion after playing college football at a small school and noticing the poor technique among most of the athletes when doing the OLs but some were still capable of power cleaning over 350lbs at BW of 220-255lbs. I have actually visited many countries on three different continents and from those experiences I understand your comments.

[jgrimsl1]

Would you not also say that the larger the population of a country the more likely they are to have superior athletes compare to a country with a smaller population.

[SunDownPoint]

The more chance maybe, but that doesn't necessarily mean it will happen.

[TheMightykaz]

I am american and have been to lots of different countries. I will agree with jgrimsl1 that most of are raw strength talent goes to sports such as football. But I doubt we have the most amazing explosive talent compared to other countries. I think it might be pretty equal. There are amazing strength athletes all over the world.

[skirts365]

Football players are weak on percent. I never saw any of them reach 400 in the overhead lift in Superstars. Danny Noonan push pressed 375 at what, 310 pounds. Bill March weighed 82 pounds less and strict military pressed 15 pounds more than Noonan's push press. Football training cannot maximize strength. Strength alone is not the goal of football. Platz a great bodybuilder did an ass to ankles squat set I doubt any footballer will ever, ever equal. These guys can't hold Iron Cross on rings

[Myself0101]

well by definition weightlifers are

[jgrimsl1]

Are what? The most explosive athletes in the world? Yes, with proper tranning, however, I refering to raw talent with no tranning.

[Neilius27]

I'm always amazed at how little muscle mass most weightlifters have in comparison to bodybuilders/powerlifters.. Kuznietsov is muscular,but most aren't super muscular..Just goes to show you that big muscles don't necessarily lift big weight..

[m1kasd]

any big country could be good at weightlifting if weightlifting in the country was popular

in USA 99% of the population does not know what c&j and the snatch are. It sucks, but its true :(

[ridleyrockets]

Insane weight to be throwing around. I doubt he is drug free but that isn't an issue since they are all more than likely on something.

[wolfgangle]

get real you shitty racists, 243 is FAR more than any drugged US SHW ever got in the c&j. Ya hear me? Here is a 220 pounder nearly getting it and you spew your venom. No wonder noone likes the nationalistic usa.

[skirts365]

Reason USA does poorly in lifting is we downplay it here but build up things like football. Exceptional individuals are seldom attracted because they know they will receive little recognition, while the footballer gets insane glory for a touchdown.

[ojizzzle]

skirts365 is right! You are stupid! The US would destroy every other country in the world at weightlifting if it was half as popular as football. I'm not saying this because I am from "nationalistic usa," but because i am not a completely thick-headed moron like you. The US simply has better facilities and population than most countries.

[trtztrtztrtz]

us population is mostly consisted of fat retards so i doubt it, u thick-headed owerweight idiot

[GeorgeDedaj]

What does this have to do with 'racism', moron? In case you haven't noticed, Kuznetsov is a white guy, just like the American 'racists' you are vilifying. In fact, he's about as white a man as you will find on this planet. I'm one of those American 'racists' that self righeous douchebags like you like to gratuitously slander and I am awed by the inimitable badasserie displayed by the WHITE Soviet Bloc athletes.

Don't you have some gay pride parade to attend, faggot?

[yahoopl3]

shut up nazi

[55AllOut]

@wolfgangle OK, I can see why you hate the US, I hate it myself sometimes, However calling the US out on drug use and no one else?! Tsk tsk. Thats just shameful! All nations use drugs in the olympics and dont think they dont. If you do, your kidding youself

[valdigurka]

@wolfgangle wow u are stupid

[newbrcksstud18]

@wolfgangle too bad ever country BESIDES the U.S. dopes. The U.S. has the strictest drug laws in olympic sports unlike ever other country in the world. Tell every european lifter to get clean and then try to set records. Kendrick Farris is about to set a world record 218kg clean and jerk completely clean.

[skata123456789456123]

@newbrcksstud18 completely clean my ass...no one is completely clean...

[needabloodyname]

@newbrcksstud18 Try doping Great Britain buddy. Why are Americans so arrogant, ignorant and closed minded. Just because you have strict laws you automatically assume "The U.S has the strictest drug laws in olympic sports". Get real man, Americans love roids and if you seriously think the athletes are all clean then you need help my deluded friend.

[CameronBlaze123]

@needabloodyname Yes, because America consists of only one type of person: Arrogant, ignorant, and closeminded. Your not doing your country any favors by making a complete ass outta yourself in the comment section of a video on the net. get real bud

[needabloodyname]

@CameronBlaze123 i apologise, i forgot to insert the word "most" before "Americans"

[pantherx787]

@CameronBlaze123

alrite buddy you do realize your making yourself and your entire country just as arrogants by assuming that all americans are the same

[tempac91]

@newbrcksstud18 Is that why Marion Jones had been doping for 10 years without getting caught? You are either dumb as rocks or a troll.

[jernmyre]

@newbrcksstud18 Which planet have you lived on for the last 10 years pal?? Haaha American athletes not doped??H HAHA what about carl lewis and marion jones ??? Just to name a few??

[freedomsoldier187]

@wolfgangle do you honestly think the russians were not drugged also ? your a fool, they were drugged as well just better athletes, idiot !

[GcItalianBoy]

@wolfgangle

It's okay, America's been kickin ass and takin names since 1776. We have nothing to prove, if anything get on our level.

[1435tom]

@wolfgangle

USA nationalistic, You're from Germany the country that basically invented nationalism. And racism, are you forgetting that little thing called the Holocaust.

[Zoidypoo89]

@1435tom Ha! Yeah, USA didn't have no slaves or nothing before the holocaust right? :) I totally agree with him, it's really annoying (and stupid) that americans think they're the best at EVERYTHING. Especially when you look at how many poor people you've got in your country, and the murder rate in your country. Yup. Best at everything alright. Even the bad stuff. That's commitment.

[rohitf117]

after lift that guy took him like he had committed some crime :-)

[infamystar]

all natural... that was impressive for his weight even though he didn't get it over his head.

[jordansme1234567]

damnit man he almost had it too

[metalgear500]

stud

[metalupyourassbitch]

he really looks like he isn't enjoying this. the poor guy looks like he can barely move, and the way he is taken away by his coach after the lift looks like he's treated terribly

[kettlebellconvert]

he was from the soviet union...

[Apjooz]

He couldn't move and still tried to clean and jerk 243 kg, what a hero. And how he was treated terribly?

[metalupyourassbitch]

i said he looked like he was. its just an observation mate. He was probably just exhausted, but the coach doesn't give him a second to relax or take a breather, and straight away grabs him by the arm and drags him away.

[carlitors]

See, I wouldn't really like my coach to tell me to relax before attempting a world record, but this might just be me.

[ruybal34]

These guys are all natural right? no roids or anything?? because if so that is very impressive :P

[alfggang]

80's weightlifters used drugs often so he might be the one, but can't sure

[carlitors]

I seriously doubt he was clean. In the old USSR, doping at the elite level was pretty much essential to handle the sheer volume of training (as a reference, Bulgarians used to train 8 hours a day, 5 or 6 days a week).

Which doesn't make the lift any less impressive, of course.

[Myself0101]

the russians and bulgarians had vastly different training systems...

[RipRabbo]

Most athletes at the top of strength sports probably use some sort of illegal performance enhancement.

That does not make it one bit less impressive, though.

[F430corvettekiller]

all natural

[rohitf117]

Abt Drug free ..cant say...but even if he was on dug lifting 243 @ 100 BW is not like eating peace of cake 243 is still elite lift for Super Heavyweights of 2days era

[SoftwareSoul]

Can a motivated, strong person achieve a gold medal in weightlifting, starting at age 23, by the time he is 27-28 or 29?

Naim: Certainly. Being young is not enough, nor is it absolutely necessary. Just never lose your motivation and steadfastness and you will get along.

an interview from "world weightlifting" mag.

[Myself0101]

well you can take that with a pinch of salt and look at the figures for weightlifting success versus starting age....i mean naim started at what 6?

[yh99dkyu]

he could've got it,,, if he wasn't feeling depressed,, his face looked tired and depressed and if he got lower when he was jerking he definetly couldve got it

[Lindow15]

I feel pretty much the same when I am about to atempt a new max in clean and jerk. But yeah you're right, much of it is pshycological (spelling ? :S), And also he was unlucky to step forward at the end of the clean

[yh99dkyu]

ya lol thnx for the spelling correction i feel the same 100%

[carlitors]

Yeah, definitely. I agree with you guys, the bar was there but he didn't place himself under it fast enough. He was strong enough to finish.

And yeah, it was psychological, and it happens to all of us. There again, he already had the gold...

[gianotti888]

how many pounds is that?

[shomitygan]

535.7 pounds

[Ivdarrr]

Thats really impressive. I mean i can deadlift that weight, but these guys are holding it above their heads. /hail

[Mako640]

Just deadlifting that weight is quite impressive itself. That makes this all the more amazing.

[SoftwareSoul]

started at 16, just goes to show that anything is possible if you put your mind to it.

[MarcusFenixtheMan]

no kidding, i was feeling depressed cuz i started at fifteen and lots of guys who started earlier and were the same age (im 17 now) were stronger than me, but this is good inspiration

[SoftwareSoul]

hah i started at 17, im still 17 now, i am weak compared to other people the same age and stuff, but in time i will get stronger. good luck to you

[yh99dkyu]

starting early could be good but sometimes starting later might lower the chance of injury,,, cause ur body has more densed bones and muscles due to testosterone flowing rate which is more than when u were 15,,, and u can get stronger faster than when u lift at 15

[usynli]

Goddamn it was so close by the way he wasnt in the 110 category he was in 100, Zakharevich was in 110

[SoftwareSoul]

fuck i wish i could lift that!!

[pr0mark123]

its a shame now a days you dont see people in the 105 class do any great records. you only see them in the 105+ ...or atleast the ones that stick out from the group.

[marialumena]

i would love to see him posing!

[laiosto]

I had a signed belt from Kuznetsov for many years until some dickwad broke into my car and stole my gym bag

[ttofish]

I believe this is the 100kg class, not 110.

[jmalcomb7]

My bad, I'll change it.

[TheChoptank]

@ttofish yeah it's 100

[robertJay213]

amazing

[elixirnova]

gee you can tell he gave everything he possibly had!

[ageofempires]

so close

[TooL775]

wow now that is strong, only started training at 16 too..raw power