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  • It Was Assisted Suicide Because How Is He Gon Be So Stoned Out Of His Mind And Be Able To Shot Himself Somebody Had To Do It For Him Its Kind Of Obivous Dont You Think! DONT BE FOOLED!

  • man its sad a true legend accoarse dead i really beleave he killed his self cause his bipolar manic depresive most of the time manic depresives are suicidal rip kurt you will never be forgotten in are hearts and minds

  • I would ask the guy who passed a polygraph about Courtney offering him $50,000 to "blow his head off" but unfortunately he was found dead after he was interviewed on the BBC about the situation. Hmm.. I just don't KNOW who the hell would ever want to kill him.. I mean who could possibly benefit from killing Kurt Cobain... He was just about to divorce Courtney and they had a pre-nup so she would probably not gain anything if- oh wait.. ...

  • murder

  • courtney wasnt even crying the picture

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  • @floppingnoni There's a conspircy behind it

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  • This guyy had an inteveiw and said this guy named Allan ??? killed kurt , but i think it was courtney because she wrote the last four sentences to the suicide note and she wanted him to die , so FUCK YOU COURTNEY U DESERVE TO DIE BITCH KURT DESERVES TO BE ALIVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • @beans1147 yeah...he had a hatred for alot of people and just life in general. he had skulliosis, he was an insomniac, drug addict, and he had stomach issues i heard. on top of that there was the media that he said he hated b/c they were all in his personal life. He mentioned all this in a interview by the way. in the end courtney might have had a part but when it's all said and done...he killed himself. He's still legend in my book though

  • @DCBridge511 Totally agree. People will believe anything if it makes sense to them, most of them hated Courtney before they made a decision.

  • @beans1147 Because there are a lot of things in the history of kurt's suicide that the police doesn't search deeply. for example he was found locked in the greenhouse with the key in the door lock but outside. Nobody who wants to kill himself close a door with the key in the door lock outside. And someone profited with he's death God Damned.

  • @beans1147 And the position that the shotgun was it's not possible to shoot only with a feet. and besides he was having a trip so it's impossible tou have force to do it when someone are under this effect.

  • @RibeiroRenata1991 If he was laying down yes but if he sat up its def possible

  • SUICIDE.

    How many of you guys believing otherwise were Nirvana fans when Kurt killed himself?

  • That is what some my friends. everytime i go to any hot topic store to get my favorite rock band gear. i said to this guy at hot topic kurt cobain you think commit sucide? he said courtney had a hit on him. than a paid for my avenged sevenfold t-shirt than i left. my point is even people that work at hot topic think courtney did it. i was only in 5th grade when curt died.

  • Fuck you all morons. She didn't kill him. I'm exhausted by writing everywhere, but, she didn't kill anyone. The fact that fucking retarded dumbass guy made a teory that he was killed...that's all just lies.

  • LOVE KURT,HATE COURTNEY!

  • if it was murder or if it was suicide...that doesnt mean shit. we all know we loved him and he changed music as we know. the best thing to do is to never to forget and keep playing his songs over and over again and dont let him fade away. to all that inspired our lives. R.I.P Kurt Cobain, Layne Stayle and all the other that change our lives and gave us something that no one can take away or duplicate. grunge lives on.

  • murder. i really want to help reopen this case but i have no idea what to do.

  • @peacelovempathy1 same here

  • murder

    

  • i believe he was murderd i dont know if it was courtney love or not but she gets every thingif he dies and he wanted a divors he wanted to be thair francis i mean look at the facts the shot gun casings were found and you have to re-cock it for those to come out and you cant do that if your dead and he was over 3x the normal haroin use if you take that much you cant evan funtion let alone pull a trigger thair also wasent any finger prints on the gun and the suiside note wasent in his hand writing

  • it was fucking MURDER!!!!!!! ;( RIP kurt

  • @LAMEIBIS you are talking about facts we have already discussed. He was questioned as to if he did it as well as if it w as offered to him he passed the lie detector test and and he said he did not kill him but he was offered it. He didn't kill him. The main suspect of the murder theory is outlined in thet book by Ian and i forget the guys name he is the only one that gives any info that would come close to a possibility. Do more research and you might understand this. And this goes for all.

  • @ultravioletfears @LAMEIBIS @DubSelect I dont swing in either direction of murder or suicide, I don't believe anyone can say they know wether it's either but I strongly recomend a documentary I saw about it with Nick Broomfield. It's got some very interesting shit in it as well as an interview with the man that ultravioletfears is speaking of. I would imagine it's on youtube somewhere.

  • @ultravioletfears Ive researched the murder/suicide of kurt cobain and there are always different stories. Just because you read a book by Ian, doesnt mean that thats the right story. None of us know what happened, because none of us were there. I truly believe that he was murdered. And there is a point where know matter how much heroin you do on a daily basis, you can still overdose. 3x the lethal dose for a nomal person would kill them. To kurt it could have been 2x. Regardless, how do you

  • shoot yourself while your so incredibly high, with a shotgun, while your shoes are still on? The only way to shoot yourself in the head with a shot gun, is to pull the trigger with your toe.

  • @Theroyalbitch126 Because the shotgun that Kurt used was not a large shotgun. 22 inches from the tip of the muzzle to the end of the barrel, and the trigger is just a few inches beyond the end of the barrel. The cops photographed and measured the weapon, those documents are available on the justiceforkurt site. Cobain had the barrel in his mouth when he was shot - why would he need to use his toes to reach 2 feet in front of his face?

  • @ultravioletfears he never took heroin. people everywhere are saying he did but he took something that was like heroin.im guessing kurt thought it was heroin but thats why he had such tolerance for it, becuz it wasnt legitimate heroin

  • @violatorswillbeshot He went to rehab because he was "addicted to heroin".

  • @violatorswillbeshot If it wasnt heroin then why would the medical examiner say that it was 3x the lethal dose of heroin? Your comment makes no sense.

  • @ultravioletfears

    dude you should check out justice for kurt

    btw everyone know (i think) that courtny hate kurt

    she want his money the child the fame

    even his band knew she hate him

  • @fafafak6 I have seen all the videos all the documentaries and i was a founding member of Justice for Kurt...so please everyone stop trying to convince me of what you believe it took me over 10 years to come to terms with what i think happened....never say never someone could confess or more details could come out. I find it odd Cali still gets money every year from Courtney even tho he lives in another state and barely ever sees her...but this is what i believe so respect it...like i do 4 u.

  • it is said that courtney's lover murdered him and then in 1997 he was found dead on the train tracks

  • @colosoloaspirina "Courtney's lover"? You mean El Duce? Lol, they weren't lovers, they knew some of the same people; one of Courtney's ex-band members from Hole dated one of the guys in El Duce's band, The Mentors. And El Duce didn't kill Kurt, he was on tour w/ the Mentors when Kurt died. El Duce had passed a polygraph w/ a story that Love had randomly offered him 50 G's to kill Kurt, a few months before Kurt's actual death. A few weeks after coming forward in 97, El Duce was hit by a train...

  • he died before the world turn to shit

  • El Duce, Vocalist and drummer for the band "the Mentors" told a documentary film maker from England, on film, that he was approached by Courtney Love, back in 1994, at a bar he frequented, and that Courtney offered him $50,000 to "whack" her husband. El Duce Earl Hoake, was later found to have been hit by a train, near his home in Riverside Ca. see the film "Kurt and Courtney"

  • he was bipolar ... big moodswings, bipolar got 4 times more chance to end up suiciding, and if he didnt take his meds ...listen to LITHIUM sais allot

  • @NIRVANAKurtCobain27 but not directly,on the other hand she writed a part of the "suicide note", her lawyer found in her bag a paper with different letters on it,

  • Hmmm...I've just read your comments in the description box, and I think that you & I might feel kinda similarly about Kurt, his life, his music, and the way that he died. I've read cobaincase, justiceforkurt, DMDPT, Love and Death, Azerrad's bio, The Journals, True's bio,& Cobain Unseen, and my personal feeling is that, when it all boils down, Kurt ended his own life. The irony is that he actually tried to explain to us what he was feeling & why he did it, but so many fans misconstrue his words.

  • i knew it was a murder, he had 3x the amount of heroin it would take to kill a person when he was found.. he wouldnt have been able to lift a shotgun and pull the trigger. I dont know who killed him.

  • @ultravioletfears i meant to say 3x the amount it would take to kill even a hardcore user at least. sorry i left a couple of words out. anyways, i think they should open the cobain case and re-analyze it and stuff like that. Ive read alot about the case but i dont know every detail

  • MUUUURDAA

  • MURDER!!!!

    

  • @NIRVANAKurtCobain27 no man the fans and news press knew before she did. therefore impossible. and kurt couldnt afford life insurance and he didn care either so thre would be no point in her killing him.

  • @ayohi you must not understand estates. She would be the sole owner and heir to the rights to nirvana and Kurt's song writing credits...how do you think she payed her bills and payed for all those lawyers over the years...she also arranged to sell Kurt's ashes and made it look like a robbery so she could collect the insurance and not look more like the soul sucking banshee devil bitch she is....but that's another day another dollar...

  • @ayohi THANKYOU!

  • no she didnt couse she was with me that night ..

  • Man that greenhouse looks so creepy..

  • It was Suicide its fucked up but true

  • @ayohi

    that's why you can't spell you effin idiot! you can't add 2 and 2 nor can you spell. listen to the song. "she just wants to love herself" "i will move away from here" and it's a known fact he was leaving courtney and seattle. the whole courtney taking away frances cause he was an addict.... she was too! who could she fool? look at the facts before you place your opinion. even the chief of police admitted the case was mishandled years after the fact, they just dont want the negative atten

  • the ignorance of kurts fans are unbelievable, i dont understand how they could even blame courtny.

  • Dont say 3 things of heroin. Really ? No. Okay sorry to inform you all, Kurt was a heroin addict. He could handle his shit. Obviously he got what he wanted.

  • did he dieded

  • @delcomurf :/ you idiot of course he died someone killed him

  • Whoever made this video truly understands the meaning of Nirvana's last studio song/recording. I would recommend "Who killed Kurt Cobain?" it is a great book.

  • no guys this is what happened

    the suicide note isnt his handwriting

    and he was doing drugs so he couldnt move

    someone killed him

  • @dickran2142battle Yes that is right. 3 things of Herion, he would have passed out before he pulled the trigiar.

  • Holding the barrel is not the same as the hand was on the barrel...

    You dont know which hand he used to pull the trigger, you dont know the initial position of his body. You dont know anything, you just theorise about a case you dont know anythin about. The experts had their word and the case was closed, think about it.

  • so sad how he died espescially since he died before i was even born

  • KURT WASNT LYING ON THE FLOOR WHEN THE SHOTGUN WAS FIRED.So,if his left hand was on the barrel it means two things:

    1) He pulled the trigger w his left hand

    2) He did it with his right hand

    BOTH HIS BODY & SHOTGUN MOVED WHEN IT WAS FIRED. Blame gravity and energy, not a mysterious murderer... Oh, and next time you believe made up theories by assholes like Grant and Halperin do yourself a favor and track down their info. It takes a few minutes to know they make up & change stories 4 their cause.

  • @floppingnoni i never said he was laying down but could you explain how gravity makes your hand come off the trigger to holding the barrel?

    ok so your obviously not getting my point i dont blame you, your an idiot, i should of explained in a way a 5 year old would understand.

    right so lets just assume he was sitting there left hand on the barrel right on the trigger with the bottem of the shotgun facing away from him and the top facing him the shell would come out the right...

  • and none of you are coming up with evidence for murder. All you are coming up is evidence that it may have not been suicide. Have you found and evidence of another person being in the room? How about anything else pointing to another person being there? Nothing.

  • courtney love is a bitch but I dont think any of you really have any proof that she did it. The evidence points to either side but I say it is more suicide. I mean that note really sounds like a suicidal note. Why would he write a note about leaving thhe music industry. Makes no sense. It just shows he was really depressed. He had been suicidal before and he probably was going through a rough patch.

  • @gheffty93 as far as the note it doesnt mention suicide at all more of a retirement to the rock bussiness

  • @suicidesucks08 i dont think the letter needs to literally mention suicide for it to be a suicide letter. I mean that was a damn depressing letter and if he really didnt commit suicide than he was sure as hell thinking about it,

  • @gheffty93 yeah he was depresed as always thats how manic depresives act ... no reply to the facts??

  • @suicidesucks08

    The note: Kurt writes he has a godess of a wife and a child, and wonders why he cant enjoy it. Now explain why he wrote this in a suppossed "retirement letter", the body of the note, not just the last lines.

  • "I'll be at your altar ... " (Kurt Cobain )

  • This goes to anyone who thinks Kurt killed himself....check the facts. There are a couple of sites you can go to. I didn't know anything about Kurt. One day, I decided to see why he killed himself. Then I checked out all the facts and it was obvious that there was something very wrong about his "suicide".

  • HES DEAD....... cry me a river, build a bridge and get over it. nirvana ftw!

  • he is legend :S !!

  • IT WASNT COURTNEY WHO KILLED HIM. omg it gets me so annoyed when people say this. dont you know he tried to kill himself before? he obviously would do it again. its sad he shoot him self. or maybe he didnt? who knows. but for a fact im sure courtney didnt kill him. i just know it. everyone just blames it on her because she was the only one who was with him and she was the closest you could get to kurt.

  • @stephaniexxx1 The famous previous attempts were also pointed towards Courtney, like the pills and Champagne attempt. He didn't know pills were put in his drink. Why do you think there were two letters found...one apparent suicide note and another saying he wanted a divorce. Why write a letter about divorce if you were giong to kill yourself?! He was afraid for his life. People close to him say he was at his happiest shortly before he died. If we had a proper trial we wouldnt have to debate it

  • yeah it can go both ways, however it leans more towards murder. if you couple that with information that Courtney Love is a MONARCH, it is obvious and common sense he was murdered. But I doubt you even know what a Monarch is.

  • I think he killed himself cause he wrote a note before he died

  • fuck you courtney!

  • thanks courtney 4 taking away a legend

  • and for some dumbies, PLEASE read and seach about the things before post any shit, just because y hear some tapes or read one text doenst mean you are a fan and you know everything! fuck off :)

  • When he run off the clinic, she was at rehab too! well and if there's people out there that kill's like this let's just pay and kill everyone that we dont like! does this make sense? i know she is crazy and stuff like that... but if he was alive, she was getting more and more money! But how can we say it was her or it wasnt? IT WAS THEY LIFE'S NOT OUR LIFE!!! SO DEAL WITH IT, THIS SUBJECT ITS ANNOYING! KURT WILL LIVE FOREVER <3

  • When kurt died some people "friends" of him and courtney give interview! and there's one, that some woman says that before he went to the clinic coutney asked for help of those friends...to talk with kurt and to say to him to get of drugs! and that woman says like this: "i was saying to him to get off drugs but i was actually doing the same" so how he fuck can you fucking heads say that it was just like that I'M GOING TO KILL MY HUSBAND, SO FUCK OFF.

  • NO ONE WILL EVER KNOW THE TRUE... so deal with it! but think... why the fuck will courtney send someone to kill kurt if she could simply let him die when he toke pills and alchool before? IT WAS LIKE TWICE, and she save him! the tapes of tom grant are incomplete! and he only puts online what's "the best" to support his theory! When kurt die... obviously guys like you that just talk without know the facts...

  • Imagine how big Nirvana would be if he was still alive

  • @xVhincex Probably a lot less popular..Kurt's death really boosted their popularity and legacy, sad as it is to say.

  • @vcough True..

  • you can thank Courtney for Kurdt (i know its spelled Kurt) dying either way

  • se matou porque era fraco! um imbecil...

  • why agonise over it? you can look at all the facts & insinuations & read every book about it you want. , but no1 really knows except the people involved. it is too hard to determine some1s state of mind as well, plenty of people have committed suicide that arent drug addicted, celebrities. unless you know the people & the absolute truth i dont think its fair to judge.

  • why does it matter now if he was murdered or suicide.... his gone...

  • Lol, death or suicide .... He did die, no matter if it was suicide or not. Title fail.

  • @ultravioletfears I LOVE WEEZER and GREEN DAY, but Kurt's lyrics became TOO REAL for people when he left us. It was fun to sing along about the anxiety, but to see that this anxiety could lead you to unhappiness despite any success, is haunting. I am weary of Courtney, and I am looking at the behind the music. I want to believe it wasn't her doing, but his death is not resolved by any means, and I find a lot of it fishy. People who are heroin addicts Overdose, they don't blow their heads off.

  • Drug addiction is a public health problem, not a criminal problem, and most addicts see that loophole of the law. People don't take it seriously when someone is a drug addict, however homicide is on the news regularly, combine the two and it seems almost as though their is a "lack of evidence" due to peoples apathy to public health issues. I wish there were people whom he could have TRULY felt close to, and received help from. It seems as though NIRVANA is owned by love; Thus "I'll Stick Around"

  • by Dave G and the Foo Fighters, they seem to have had a HELL of a battle over music, and it seems that they don't afford scruffling in public. I wish Grohl and Novaselic spoke out on their thoughts more often.

  • Death or suicide?  suicide equals death by proxy..........moron

  • Yeah 15 years God rest his soul, I watch his music video and surely....he is alive in my memory forever:(

  • Some sort of half cocked reasonings can explain away somethings. I have, yet, to hear any explain how all of the tires on his car were flattened. Most concerning to me though is why it took a month to fingerprint the gun, and why there were no legible fingerprints on it, or the red pen used to write the suicide letter.

  • GReenday in NO FUCKING WAY, can be compared to the total awsomness of Kurt...fuck greenday

  • @ElevenBravo90 it's called Green Day. in two words.

  • @cookieheartbreak o...ok....well in five words........I dont give a fuck

  • @cookieheartbreak who gives a fuck  how u spell it still same old shit band

  • @legiavony everyone has different taste. keep your sucky opinions to yourself (:

  • @ElevenBravo90 Indeed

  • @ElevenBravo90 I agree with you Gree Day is great in there own way but dont compare to nirvana

  • It´s unfair compare two very distintive bands witch have completelly diferent styles.I like booth,actually Green day is my favourite band nowaday,but Nirvana will always be my favourite band,but in the end it´s universally true: Green Day can´t match with Nirvana,no way,in my point of view

  • @ElevenBravo90 You cant compare them becuz there totally different genre's of music but Green Day is still good

  • @RyGuy4554: I like them both. Very different. Billie Joe also has a lot of charisma like Kurt.

  • @ElevenBravo90 i agree. Greenday named their album shit. They told you all from the start it was shit...but did you listen...noooooo...they made a shit record of shit music called it shit and you bought it...*shakes head* when i was growing up Nirvana was alive and playing we didn't have to settle for bands like greenday i feel for you.

  • just watching this makes me want to go out and cath that little basterd who's behind kurts death, courtney fucking love....

  • I believe it was a suicide.

  • its amazing what heroin can take from a person so sad

  • what song is this??

  • @guitarr0ck3r you know your right

  • @guitarr0ck3r its called You Know You're Right

  • hows it emo navana grunge

  • emo =(

  • uhmm death or suicide

    how bout both O.o

  • the song is called "you know you right"

  • @bloodtearsej thanks

  • whats the name of this song?

  • you put your user name as Nirvana25100 but you do not know the name of this song?

  • @jtxhorns wow. sorry i dont know this one songs name, you dont have to be a dick about it.

  • @Nirvana25100 well just saying it was like a big song when it came out. it was released as a single and then on the greatest hits album. theres also other versions of this song that were released on the with the lights out box set. anyway wasnt trying to be a dick but its called You Know You're Right.

  • possable this song is about him divorcing her...

  • @bloodtearsej Thats actually true, didnt think about it like that

  • @bloodtearsej

    wow, thats right. that song is about leaving Courtney.

    youre right!

  • this song rules..... i think this song is about Courtney.. shes didnt want this song to be relised hummm i wonder why... you see a flash of her face at the beginning of the video...a little dig from Krist and Dave

  • murder.... read "Who killed Kurt Cabain" or Love and Death see and breath the evidence... no way with all thats happened up to his death and after.. no way to hide it all. no finger prints on gun,bullets,sucide note or pen found... (so called sucide note) lats lines were added not his. 3X lethal doze of herion and diazpam also found in his blood (which traced in the drinks can)

    you find of lot more of Courtneys actions in Love and Death.. Micheal Dewitt... Dylan Carlson ones who did it together

  • @bloodtearsej first of all have you seen the paper by the coops saying: NO FINGER PRINTS ON THE GUN? secound a medic gave a interview saying that before his brain clash, he had 10 secounds for do it ;)

  • Fuck, if only my parents got hornier at a younger age.

    I'm 14, nearly 15, so I can't meet one of the people in my life I idolize. Ever. :(

  • ya sam sitchuation here i love kurt and his music but the only way i can listen to this amazing music is old conserts but hay much rather have that then no nirvana i cant live without listening everywhere i go!

  • Yeah same here. Like, dead serious; their music saved my life<3 Everytime I'm down, I can just listen to them and I feel better.

  • @TiffanixEpiphany ME TOO!

  • i really wish i could go back and stop him from dying, because i will never see, meet, or even get to hear my favorite band live in my lifetime

    its very very sad

  • @rockingout013 i know what u mean i wish i could see him live this is my all time favorite band and i will never see him live

  • @rockingout013 i hear ya there man..

  • Kurt know he is right!!

  • BTW. R.I.P Kurt. Love the hell out of you man. Such a good guy and a good singer. Best of luck to your family and I hope the story is discovered and published.

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  • He killed himself..He had a high tolerance. Plus one time in an interview he said he mies well take a bunch of drugs if your going to die or something like that. His whole suicide note had a lot to do with empathy it is repeated many times throughout this letter and apparently at the cime scene he had towels there because he knew it would be a mess. Empathy. And why wouldn't you wanna get high before you killed yourself? It seems pretty logical to me. Anyways thats my opinion

  • anyone know the name of the song?

  • @XINDIOS  its you know your right

  • i hope before Courtney eventually OD's that she gets the truth out and admits she shot him or hired someone too

  • yeah because it's so easy to blow your head off with a shotgun with your shoes on...and you can use your credit cards after you die. and shit everyone knows you CAN lift a shotgun with say 230mg of heroin in your system...i mean duh! all evidence points to suicide...idiots. how is it not obvious he was murdered ?

  • Idiots ? Why don't you do some research before you start popping off calling people "idiots". You are clearly ignorant of neurotoxicology and Heroin tolerance.

    The only "obvious" thing is the fact that you want to seek revenge for a crime that was never committed. You clearly have no background that gives you any authority to speak on any of these issues. GET OVER IT, There is NO PROOF of "murder".

  • because everything you just said can be explained it can go either way really which is what we are all talking about...

  • @ultravioletfears great so your answer is it could be suicide or death, thanks for not changing anything

  • @ultravioletfears ok but what about the shotgun shell being found on the opposite side of the room then the direction that the ejection port on the shotgun was facing... huh huh huh ok .............

  • @ultravioletfears so you can shoot 1.52 mg/per L of blood ( thats 0.02 over three times dead for even the most severe addict) taken post mordem so it was most likely higher. and have a denzodriene like substance (valium) which makes it 10 times over dead for a severe addict .. take the needle out your arm and strap put it in the cigar box turn the shotgun upsidedown shoot yourself in the head. get up and throw the shell on the oppisite side of the room that the ejection port on the gun is facing

  • @suicidesucks08 i completely agree 100% that it was murder theres so much evidence pointing towards it but come on have you never got so completely fucked off heroin that you can shoot your self in the head and then move the shotgun shell... pff lightweight

  • @randyjeb

    You dont know if Kurt was "compleately fucked off heroin". Authorities said toxicology results were due in 3 weeks. The Seattle Post Intelligencer published on April 14th Kurt had 3 times the lethat dose... It's a big lie and conspiracy theorists stick to it because it backs up their "cause". So no evidence at all. Kurt Cobain commited suicide, so dont take gossip as evidence. Thats the reason why SPD laugh when they're approached by nonsensical conspiracies.

  • @floppingnoni ok maybe he was out of this world on heroin maybe he wasnt but that doesnt disprove the fact that the shell was found on the left of him, if he had of shot himself the shell would of been to the right of his body,

    theres more but i really cba argueing with an idiot right now

  • @randyjeb

    You know Cobain was ambidextrous,right? That means he used both hands (eg. left to play guitar, right to write). You assuming the shell "would of been to the right of his body" proves youre pretty ignorant. Ive been researching this case since 1995, all that stupid stuff you talk about has been proven to be bullshit. Who's the idiot now?

  • @floppingnoni The shotgun was on him upside down with his left hand on the barrel which means not only would he of had to use his right hand to pull the trigger but also that if he shot himself with the shotgun up right and with his left hand he would of had to turn the shotgun and swich the position of his hands after his death.

    Who's the idiot now?