para mi es una bonita interpretacion de danzon N0. 2 de G Marques no hay nadie lo lo interprete como el Dudamel es uno de mejores musicos y directrores de orquesta mis felicitaciones
este musico es un orgullo no momas para venezuela sino para todos los latinoamericanos, yo soy mexicano y yo lo concidero como mexicano para mi es de los musicos mas completos, me gusta su musica como la intepreta, es un angel de la musica. un saludo a los que les gusta este artista de la musica
@TheJose5850 El Maestro Dudamel elevara las comosiciones Latino Americanos al nivel mundial con su superiores interpretaciones inigualable. Los directores y musicos de la mas alta nivel de musica de Europa no puede interpretar Marquez como lo hace el Maestro Dudamel y La Orquesta Sinfonica Simon Bolivar. El es un tesoro y un genio y representa lo mejor que es del tribu cosmico llamado LATINOAMERIANO.
Una vez Beethoven escribió : "musica tiene que encender el fuego en corazones humanos " . El Maestro Dudamel no hace nada otro !!! Talento , comprensión del ingenio de Bonn , alegria , intelecto y fuego , asi es Beethoven venezolano . Gracias
Dudamel es un talento, que logra su desarrollo por un sistema orquestal, producto de la creatividad y trabajo del maestro Jose Antonio Abreu, un sistema, que tiene mas de 30 años de creado, no es producto de un gobierno en particular. El poseer Venezuela tantas orquestas juveniles e infantiles, en todas las regiones del pais y con exelentes maestros, nacidos en este sistema, brinda la oportunidad de que muchos talentos logren desarrollarse.
todo talento, obra, es de admirarse, porque ponerle una nacionalidad, edad, sexo, etc. ? si se hace para todos, hay que disfrutarla y apreciarla, con todos los sentidos.
@arrebiate You turn against democracy because the people don't vote the way you want them to or the way you think they ought to. A bit egotistical and arrogant, don't you think? I do not see Chavez as a military man. He seems to have a sea of support amongst the poorest segments of the population. You must ask yourself, how does he earn that support. Is he making sure that the oil revenue benefits the masses? Is that illegitimate? Who should that revenue benefit, if not them?
DIOS!!! ESTOY AQUI DE CABEZA PORQUE NO SOPORTO LA TV. VENEZOLANA, NO SOPORTO A CHAVEZ Y ME ENCUENTRO A ESTOS DISCUTIENDO AQUI...! SI PUDIESE IRME A LA LUNA JURO QUE LO HARIA!!!
Let's make one thing clear. The Sistema was founded and created during the 70's under the democratic government of that time. Antonio Abreu, an economist and musician, along with other intelectuals and with the support of the government fougth to make it a reality. This is about the only remaining good thing that Chavez has not destroyed during his 10 years of rule. He is banking on it. It continues because it is good propaganda for him and does not dare to touch it. Thank God!! He doesn't.
@milouhb Doesn't Chavez also take steps (like Ghaddaffy) to insure that the oil revenue trickles into the hands of ordinary people? Rest asured that I am not a Chavez fan. But there must be a foundation on which his power rests. What is that foundation?
La educacion es gratuita en Venezuela, gracias a Chavez?. No. La salud es gratuita por Chavez?. No. Ahora, la Orquesta es excelente gracias a Chavez.?. No.Gracias al trabajo de muchos . Ha incrementado el presupuesto?, claro!, con la inflacion triple que hay, pq sabes que devaluo el bolivar. Le dio soporte a la orquest?, bien por eso, pero no digan que es gracias a el, pq con el afan de darle el merito a chavez haces desmerito de los que idearon ese hermoso proyecto.
@arrebiate Lo siento por decirlo pero suenas como una malagradecida. Una vez que Chavez les nego a la oligarquia la oportunidad de robar del gobierno, ya hubo plata para el pueblo para que gozen de salud publica gratis, educacion gratis a todo nivel y educacion de musica gratis, lo cual esta cresiendo por mucho, creo que esta a medio million de muchachos y muchachas. Deje de criticar su gobierno ante el mundo. Suenas como una vendepatria.
@padredemishijos12 ¿Quién le dijo a usted que los dictadores de izquierda le dan "plata para el pueblo"? Permítame instruirlo, compatriota, de manera que cuando nuestro país se termine de convertir en uno de zombis como Cuba, no diga usted que nadie le advirtió. Examine la historia reciente de la ex Unión Soviética, Alemania del Este y Polonia, y compárela con las teorías de Marx, por decir uno, y verá que uno cosa nunca convino con la otra. ¿Sabe por qué? Pregúnteme y le diré.
@arrebiate Gracias por compartir la opinion de la oligarquia. Porque tenemos que contractar 35,000 medicos y tecnicos de Cuba para atender por primera vez al pueblo. Antes del Presidente Chavez, el pueblo Venezolano estaba ABANDONADO. En todo Cuba cada familia tiene un medico o dos y cada alumno de la primaria tiene por minimo los padres con un bachillerato o graduado de la universidad. En EEUU hay escuelas donde ni un padre de alumno ha terminado su secundaria.
Give me a break!!!!,.How can you tell that Chavez is involved in this successful music movement in Venezuela? It was the result of the hard work of many venezuelans during decades. Shut up, please. Are you living in Venezuela? Go there, and walk around the country at night, find a good job and try to keep faith in the democracy... sweet dreams!!!!
@arrebiate Under the democratically elected government of President Chavez, he has significantly and dramatically increased the budget. He has promised and committed his administration to triple the amount of students, from the poorest families, to study classical music. Moreover, he has committed to establishing four orchestras in the border region of Colombia for poor colombian kids. Lets give credit where credit is due.
Maravilloso!Tuve la suerte de participar en el pùblico.Esto fue en el parco della musica en Roma. Yo estaba! Lo bello es que asi se les abre un poco la mente en todo el mundo que cuando el talento viene sostenido no hay tercer mundo en la musica. Y han tenido que aceptarlo.VEry good!
woa, cuanto te envidio, juro que se me salio una lagrima, y no por q fuera malo, todo lo contrario, es demasiado bueno, y me encanta su cabello, me encanta.... lo hubieras grabado hasta el final
los gringos, como siempre pensando que son mejores que todo el mundo, hay que reconocer que esa ambiguedad es lo que los tiene fritos, reconozcan que hay en Sudamerica, talentos emergentes que le laten en la cueva a sus conceptos y se debe reconocer que uno de los logros para combatir la pobreza es el apoyo que Chávez les da a los pobres, sino vean el ejemplo de La Orquesta Juvenil.
Quien le dijo a usted que los gringos se creen lo mejor del mundo? Sabía usted que a Gustavo Dudamel lo acaban de contratar para ser el director de la Orquesta Sinfónica de Los Angeles California? Sabía usted que el acontecimiento ha sido tan grande que hasta celebraron en Los Angeles el "Día de Gustavo" El problema no es de los gringos, es de nosotros, que tenemos un grotesco complejo de inferioridad. Ricardo Barrios
Estimado amigo, el problema está en que con tantas invasiones a otros países, para "exportar su democracia", que es bien atrasada, porque pasan un mes sin saber quien es el presidente, y luego "gana"el que saca menos votos, solamente con eso ya se creen que se la comieron, vea el caso del jonrón más largo y grande del mundo que lo conectó un venezolano (gato Galarraga), y aún no se lo reconocieron, de allí mi punto de vista, saludos y gracias
Estimado Sr., lo que expresé lo hice basándome en las invasiones a otros países que hacen para "exportar su democracia" que es bien atrasada, porque pasan un mes y no saben quien es el presidente electo y no solamente eso sino que gana el que saca menos votos, está además el caso del jonrón más largo del mundo dado por un venezolano (Gato Galarraga), que nunca le reconocieron, en cuanto al complejo de inferioridad no padezco de ese mal. Gracias por responder. Saludos.
Mi amigo Beto, no se le restan meritos a el Presidente Chavez; pero te informo que la Orquesta Sinfonica Juvenil Simon Bolivar fue creada el 12 de febrero de 1975, por el maestro José Antonio Abreu, gracias al apoyo del Gobierno de ese entonces.. logicamente a sido unas de las pocas cosas que en verdad valen en Vzla que los "Politicos" no pueden meter mano o dañarla porque le caeria medio mundo por asi decirlo...
D acuerdo pero no olvidemos que este gobierno es el que le ha prestado más apoyo al programa del Dr. Abreu, con la signación de la materia de música, aparte de la ayuda que le hace a todos los estudiantes de la SimÓn Bolivar, otorgándole becas, mejorando sus condiciones de vida, etc. etc.,Saludos y gracias por responder.
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Dudamel is certainly not "the best", though he certainly is one of the most promising. His recordings are inconsistent as to being very fine to mediocre. For example, parts of his Mahler 5 are extraordinary. But his Shostakovich Symphonies are not at a level above many other conductors. Even in this Beethoven clip with poor sound, it starts out very impressive, but he chooses to have some unnecessary articulation towards the end of the clip. But if Rattle is in Berlin, this is outstanding.
SiegfriedHorner you sound music expert that isway you should excuse this comment chain, most of all are just music lovers and venezuelans not at all musicians just talking through pride andpolitical views pro-against the crazy chavez.We respect your opinion from the technical view point
Al Cesar lo que es del Cesar, Chavez y su revolucion no tienen nada que ver directamente con el exito d ela orquesta pero si hay que reconocerle que durante su gestion el sistema nacional d eorquestas no habia recibido tanto apoyo de ningun gobierno, esas giras internacionales son las que le han dado proyeccion y roce a la orquesta...ellos han crecido y se han proyectado al mundo como una excelente alternativa musical con el apoyo de este gobierno, mi hermano pertenece a la orquesta y nadie mas
A fine young maestro, probably with much success in his future. But to say "The best", is an opinion, and very presumptuous. His youth, talent, and enthusiasm contribute to much popularity, and popularity in any art breeds success. Greatness is earned, or not earned with time..it remains to be seen. "The best", especially in conducting, is not quantifiable or definable. It cannot be measured soley by popularity or commercial success. I like what he does with most music.
Indeed Maestro Dudamel is an excellent conductor but he is the result of "El sistema" from Maestro Abreau (who had more than 30 years in music) and no Mr. Chavez, please stop linking Mr. Dudamel with political views, since music is universal and has no language or nationality is an universal patrimony!!
You are right, Chavez has nothing to do with Dudamel worldwide success. Some people are mental-ill and say "viva chavez, thanks Chavez", but people like you and me must stop these comments because we all know many Venezuelans who are poor and have gone abroad to study and work to become better people, and now in Venezuela Chavez restricted the dollars for venezuelan tourists and many people can not go abroad for tourism or personal reasons, so it is not "gracias chavez" that of Dudamel.
My brother is in the orchestra and he told me never they got enough support from any previous government. I am not saying that they are talented because the revolution but we have to recognize that the international projection they have now would not ever happens without this government support. By the way..see the film Capitalism (Michael Moore)
@betojose1000 Dicen que Dios protege al inocente. Tanto camaca78 como tu, son unos jóvenes ingenuos. Ojala la historia y Dios los proteja. Maduren un poco. Temo que el mismo régimen de Chavez que ustedes celebran tanto, los llevara al desengaño. Se los digo porque la juventud es idealista, como debe ser, y se deja llevar por falsos lideres. La historia esta llena de ejemplos. Lean historia, de otros países, la propia. Busquen información. Venezuela los necesita.
@camaca78 I was in Venezuela during the campaign that got Chavez elected, and I had never heard of SBYO while I was in Venezuela. The fact that Chavez invested enormous sums of money for travel to Europe and the US is a testemony to the intelligence of this government. Before Chavez, the politicians were robbing Venezuela blind. Now, more money is available for music education. Why do you think Chavez got elected in the first place?
@camaca78 That may be true, but remember, that none of the previous governments had the enormous revenues the Chavez regime has had. He was not the founder, he is just taking advantage ot the situation because it makes him look "good" outside Venezuela. It is called Propaganda. He will not dare to touch it. Now the program is mature, he is "cosechando" what others planted with great effort. Read history, your countries history and find out the truth. I am glad for your brother. Congratulations.
There are many musicians that are prodogies. In fact it is very common; however, a conductor who is a prodogy is very rare indeed. Dudamel is a once in a century prodogy accoring to Claudio Abbado. He is destined to lead the greatest orchestras in the world. VIVA CHAVEZ and all the support that he has given the world. Getting Dudamel is like getting foreign aid from Venezuela.
Dudamel and the oschestra project existed before Chavez was elected as president. He always wants to get the credits from all successfull Venezuelans who project a positive side abroad. All governments must support arts, music, literature and all society´s needs such as social security and employment. He now became a communist he vows "patria socialismo o muerte" like all dictators, so you think people are stupid? He took over the Hilton Hotel, what support do you mean? He is anti capitalism!
I think, generally speaking, the quality of classical music performed in South America is far higher than is appreciated in the Northern Hemisphere. Dadamel is fabulous. the Simon Bolivar Youth Orchestra is superb. One wishes one could freeze them as they are now and keep them that way for good. The musicianship, the energy the joy in the music are unsurpassed.
@mc0558 I do wholly agree with you that one would want to "freeze them forever;" however, the following generation of musicians that are coming from the Venezuelan classical music system, if you can believe it, are even more awsome. Almost every village no matter how remote, even in the Amazon jungle, has a symphony orchestra and choir.
I wish people would leave more info if they post wonderful videos like this. I mean, of course we know that this is Beethoven's 5th, that Dudamel is conducting - but which orchestra, when and where???
pero eso es para que vean que hay potencial musical en Venezuela y vamos a criticar constructivamente. ese muchacho se defiende cuando se monta en ese escenario, saborea la musica y goza hablando en criollo y me pongo a postar a los criticones que hablan por aquí, me gustaria verlos montados en un escenario con 15 mil personal a ver que es lo que venden asi como son buenos para criticar debes ser una verga de triana en lo que hagas. viva venezuela.
Q arrecho el mundo entero se rinde a los pies de Dudamel y los chicos de la juvenil, y este idiota va a hablar paja, ah ya se que paso me imagino que su madre por consumir drogras y ser tan promiscua durante su embarazo no se le desarrollo el oido ni el sentido común. Anda a cantar y bailar canciones de Britney con tetas de papel, los hilos de tu hermana y los tacones del travesti de tu padre
Esto es el colmo que ahora tengamos que defender a Dudamel. Este chico se defiende solo. Con su talento, con su trabajo, sus reconocimientos x la gente q sabe de música mundialmente. Su música no es para el público de galería. Aqui muchos escribiendo ingles, pero me da que son emigrantes que llegaron a USA. De algunos paises q ya todos sabemos como envidian los éxitos de los venezolanos.
Chavez es como las moscas y todo el que se deja tocar por el.... bueno ya saben... me gustaria saber algo. Si Dudemel no triunfara en el exterior algun venezolano supiera su nombre siquiera.. la mayoria de nosotros (no me incluyo) somos así, no apresiamos lo nuestro si no es por la mirada del otro... y el caso mas patético son los propios chavistas, odian a Venezuela y por eso se la regalan a cualquiera.
no entiendo porq un ignorante habla tanto de la ignorancia? es porq se cree un sabio, mas no se da cuenta y no busca la verdad, Y mientras no sabe se queda en la ignoracia, diciendole a los demas ignorantes, es un problema pero eso se resuelve d una sola manera VIVA CHAVEZ
dudamel es el mejor es tanto que aqui en inglaterra estan creando una orquesta igual al metodo de venezuela en las escuelas en escocia y se llama el sistema estoy orgullo de dudamel talento y para mucho exportar le doy la felicitacion de pana un venezolano en nglaterra
si alexpe71, empezando por ti q eres el primer IGNORANTE y ANIMAL EMZAPATADO!!!.... VENEZUELA es el mejor pais de latinoamerica y del mundo!!! estan los mejores musicos prueba de ello esta el EXCELENTE director de orquesta Gustavo Dudamel!!!...
Pero bueno es que imaginate... con personas desquiciadas como tu que lo unico que hacen es criticar es obvio que el pais nunca va a salir adelante. Yo voto poque personas como tu se vayan de mi pais y nunca mas regresen. Quizas Caracas sea una ciudad insegura, pero que haces tu para mejorar eso? Burro de dos patas.... Se que no es tu trabajo, pero si cada Venezolano pone un granito de arena podemos sacar al pais adelante.
Sieee q le pasa aqui a todo el mundo? Por favor no vengan a cuestionar el talento de Dudamel! Por que seria cuestion de envidia. Lo consideramos un maestro por saber usa la musica para cambiar la situación como por ejemplo en Venezuela, Y estamos orgullosos de nuestra patria y que? él no solo a ayudado a mi pais sino ahora en el sus de los Angeles en EEUU. Puro marketing? Niñoooo oyelo y te callaras!
Sr. Archimboldorrio, como se le refleja la madres de las envidia. Usted solo refleja, lamentablemete, la triste miseria que reina en su triste y opacp cerebro. Viva Venezuela Carajo!!!
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Totalmente de acuerdo Archimboldorrio. No te preocupes por los venezolanos, que no saben de música y a los que solo mueve el nacionalismo... tienen musica clasica desde hace pocos años y creen que son el centro del mundo cuando lo unico que tienen es una orquesta de jovenes de nivel medio, un director y un contrabajista en la Berliner.
yes like in your country is not marketing in the music you! escoria pobre mentes como la de usted disculpe si lo llamo cabellero es que no lo conosco muy bien , la ignorancia es atrevida.
un monte oscuro de ignorancia?? como puedes decir eso?? yo creo q el monte oscuro es tu cerebro.. en venezuela hay mas orquestas q en todas las q hay en latinoamerica juntas..
la verdad es q se ha encendido una luz q jamàs se apagarà, Gustavo es solo el comienzo, muchos talentos vienen detras de el..
Yo ando por todos y cada uno de los Videos del Maestro Dudamel para siempre calificarlo alto y dejar mi mejor comentario porque hay que estar orgulloso de este talento. Esta la Venezuela que siempre he visto desde niña y la que espero siga aqui, para el futuro de los mios. Gustavo eres grande dios te bendiga.
Yo tambien soy Venezolano, no vayamos a caernos a mo---nes, lamentablemente este joven es una gran luz en un monte oscuro de ignorancia que es Venezuela.
alexpe71, ignorante eres tú pendejo y no creo que seas venezolano, nadie habla así de su tierra y por si no lo sabías ahora todos los niños y jóvenes que quieren ser músicos tienen un instrumento, entre ellos mi hija y mi sobrinito que estuvieron en clase teóricas durante 6 meses y ahora ya tienen su violín y flauta sin pagar ni un centavo por ellos y así como ellos miles de venezolanos, infórmate, aquí el estúpido eres tú
"El primer paso de la ignorancia es presumir de saber" (Gracián)
"El saber y la razón hablan, la ignorancia y el error gritan" (A. Graf)
"La verdadera sabiduría está en reconocer la propia ignorancia" (Sócrates)
Te felicito por haber descubierto la musica, Venezuela es un pais hermoso de gente hermosa, y como extrano a mi pais, pero lamentablemente es un pais con mucha ignorancia.
Y a Dios gracias que te fuiste y no creo que extrañes nada, ah y te felicito porque supongo que donde estás todo el mundo está a tu nivel intelectual, o sea todos son muuuy "inteligentes", allí no hay ignorancia, que bueno por ti, quédate ahí por el resto de tu vida, aquí no se te extraña y que te vaya muy bien.
a pajuo.. debe ser q en dond kieras q estes no ay ignorancia.. mejor no digas q eres venezolano.. PORQ COMO SOMOS TAN IGNORANTES.. no creo q extrañes nada.. y como dice lunaclarita kedat por alla.. porq venirte a vivir a venezuela ES SER UNO MAS DEL PAIS DE IGNORANTES..
alex creo que le das mal olor a esta gran interpretacion, asii que sigue siendo el embajador segun tu de nuestra ignorancia en donde te encuentres, te queremos mucho jajajaja
Si tu eres Venezolano yo soy Pablo Canela. Porque no dejas la falsedad y tu discurso de doble via? Obviamente no eres Venezolano y si naciste aqui PUES NUNCA FUISTE VENEZOLANO. Porque un Venezolano no se expresa de su pais como lo haces tu. El Venezolano es demasiado orgullo y esta lleno de muchas cosas por las cuales sentirse orgulloso. Desde pequeños cuando uno entonaba el himno en la escuela los maestros le enseñan a uno que Venezuela es el mejor pais del mundo. Yo creo que es asi.
Hi aldasinger! It is the Fifth Symphony by Beethoven. As to the mean comments, gimme a break! These days classical music is almost nonexistent in the school system (except Venezuela)! I'm not surprised that someone might not recognize Beethoven.
Yo Nile, I guarantee 100% that every person in this video knows more about music than you think. The fact that each one of them are involved in an orchestra isn't a matter of lack of ability, but a matter of choice. You think your ears are so good, I'm pretty sure that each orchestra member in the video can identify the 5 or 6 chords you play in every song that you have composed after just listening to them a couple of times. A song is child's play compared to the music that they perform.
oh yeah, i bet these sheep talentless musicians could come up with my stuff instead of playing covers all the time and reading a sheet and being led by a clown waving his arms, you are soo right.
LOL. You're forgetting one thing. That the composers are what counts, and composers such as Beethoven, Wagner, Tchaikovsky happen to be the biggest musical geniuses who have ever lived. Now heavy metal musicians might be extremely able, but they can't write symphonies to save their lives.
So why come on here and criticise the way people play? Its what people write that counts .
No I said they can't write a symphony. I'm well aware of the fact that heavy metal/death musicians are often brilliant players and there's no way I can even claim to be half as good.
Writing really good death metal takes a lot of talent, but I its not the same as writing something like The Ride of The Valkyries.
well they have actually done some classical music too, and its possible to do it, look at vangelis for example, he is capabale of writing awesome classical stuff.
I'm not trying to say that if you write or play death metal, you definitely can't write really good orchestral music. I'm sure there are some really talented people out their who could do it if they studied orchestral music enough.
I'm not a fan of vangelis though...
Sry I think my original post was actually way too snobby and condescending. What I should have said, was that really good orchestral music is the hardest music to write.
yes i agree, there are multi layers and its complex stuff so i agree. I have the highest respect for classical music even though i mainly death metal. There are some death metal bands that really play extremely complex music though. Check out "nile - execration text" and listen to the instruments :)
They can have acceptable musical knowledge., but to make art out of it, well, sorry to disappoint you but I guess that never happens when it comes to death metal....
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what are you talking about? death metal is more art than this, they are extremely talented musicians who play death metal, why dont you check out necrophagist, nile and tell me they are talentless.
Humm...More art than this? Than the entire baroque, classical and romantic repertoire? I don´t think so. These musical pieces are more complex than the popular music. Btw, I´ve heard the musical groups you mentioned and, yeah, they are talented (I´m not talking about talent) but the 10 or some songs I watched sounded the same, always drums and guitar playing...and not much else...
Acabo de salir de un conciertaso con el, es el mejor director que he tenido en mi vida, ES EL MEJOR!!! Y LA ORQUESTA SINFONICA JUVENIL DE VENEZUELA NI HABLAR... SON LO MAXIMO... ME QUEDE CON LAS GANAS!
OMGosh! I just noticed how EVERYBODY moves just like Alejandro. They all *move* together! It's like watching a line of trees move all together in the winds of a violent storm. Un-freakin'-believable!
You know, after all you said about your brother's piece, I was disappointed. And those riff videos on your profile? Those would be better if you had a sense of time.
obviously you dont know anything about music AT ALL. Just because death metal is way above your head doesnt mean its bad, same with the piano piece which is something that he has written himself instead of playing other peoples work
Although orchestras may play the same songs over and over, the arrangements are usually very different and the reason the conductor is so critical and praised is because he/she is at liberty to add to or take away from the arrangement -- especially the changes to the tempo. The members of the orchestra can't know how the conductor is going do this without practice. The reason the conductor gets praise is because of his interpretation of the piece.
do you mean he can make them change tempo from slow to much faster for example? even if he does that they could predetermine that themselves if they want to do that, i still see no use for that guy if the musicians themselves were competent enough.
Yes, that's how it is in music. That's the point of being the conductor. Yes, the can also redetermine that also because it's it written on the sheet notes
Unfortunately, and for my displeasure, I have read some negative comments on him or the musicians that appear on this video. For God sake! How much ignorance! Unbelievable! If at least, these were sound and informed comments! But no! They are just a wide display of ignorance and some sort of weird, distorted mix of envy, arrogance, and underlying discrimination... I feel pity for this (or these) coitados...they deserve no less than be called coitados.
I just got to know that he's been hired by the Los Angles Philharmonic Orchestra and its president said that he was hired because he has the talent to shape the 21st century music. I think it is implied that she (the president of LA Orchestra) talked about the classic music. Dudamel is talented, passionate and deserves all the merit! Classic music desperately needed someone like him!
About you said earlier, when two guitarists play the same song, they play it 2 very different ways. so lets say two of your favorite guitarists are in concert together, and they dont rehearse and agree on tempo and style it sounds like crap: a conductor uses the entire orchestra to play music. and yes, orchestras do play music that is old, but there are constantly new pieces being composed. dont talk when you dont know anything about what you are criticizing.
how many times do i have to say it? they read the notes, cant memorize a song they are playing a cover of AND need a guy waving his arms to be in sync.
None of that should be needed if you are a competent group of musicians
1. You try memorizing a whole symphony with all the other music on the concert dumbass
2. Have you ever tried getting an entire group of amazing musicians entirely together without a conductor? It's not easy. By the way, that's not the conductor's only job...his job is do interpret the music so the entire orchestra interprets it the same.
You don't deserve to be a musician if you don't even know what an orchestra IS asshole.
LAME excuses for being incompetent musicians. They should know the songs without the sheet and the clown waving his arms, end of discussion. I dont see these people are real musicians.
what do you play? Piano? I'm just wondering. If you have any friends that play orchestral instruments that you know are real musicians, they'll say the exact same thing.
Piano is also an easier instrument to play in many respects, same with guitar. No worries about intonation, bowings, stuff like that. And besides, death metal is a very different style of music, and it requires very different skills. I don't think you have much of a right to talk about orchestras you know nothing about and I hope you realize that. Until you've played in one, don't talk.
Im a musician and can hear with my EARS which is the ultimate judge in music. You know what i feel about these people, i dont see them as musicians, i see them as sheep "musicians" who play other peoples songs without even having the ability to remember them, they need sheet and a guy waving his arms.
check out "treasure moment new demo song" here on youtube and you ll see my brother playing piano, his OWN composition and tell me these guys are better in any way.
The reason everyone doesn't compose their own stuff all the time is because they'd RATHER play better music, composed by other people. I know that's not the case for everyone, certainly not you or your almighty brother, but honestly, millions of people like Beethoven's 5th and other classical masterpieces a hell of a lot better than that piece of crap piece your brother wrote. And in case you didn't know, those are the same musicians that have countless hours of music memorized already, man.
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thats right, i dont need to be able to read OR have a lesson of music like a sheep, i have EARS and can hear if what im playing is good or not AND i can compose MY OWN music.
So you are now officially the best musician ever without ANY training whatsoever? I HIGHLY doubt that. So you can just know that what you're doing is right? Without any former training? Okay, lets talk about musicianship. The people in this orchestra have all been playing music since a very young age. They obviously have spent hours practicing, instead of spending hours on their mothers couch eating Doritos telling her about what an amazing musician he is.
If this whole thing started about conducting, trust me, the conductor is far more than an over -paid metronome. A conductor is a bridge from the composer to the ensemble. A conductor portrays style, articulation, etc. Something you probably have no idea about. You mean music is more than just playing notes? Oh my god, my world just got flipped. There is more to music than you could ever comprehend. Go back to your loud, disgusting screaming and leave the real music to the real musicians
see? you disrespect death metal, thats the first sign of ignorance since our music has some of the most skilled musicians in the world and thats a fact! these orchestra guys while very skilled on instruments obviously cant write something of their own to save their lives.
I beg to differ. First I would like to see these "most skilled musicians in the world." And secondly, as part of my theory education we wrote compositions. I am a composer, and trust me, not everybody needs to write their own works, the market has already been saturated with centuries of fantastic compositions, where as your style of "music" has only been around for a couple decades.
Okay, so I listened to both the songs. They sound like every other Death Metal song I've ever heard. Talk about "sheep." I don't see how you say they are more skilled than these people. I can't tell which orchestra, but I know Gustavo's main orchestra is the Simon Bolivar YOUTH orchestra. I have watched many of their videos and they are fantastic. You obviously have an extremely warped sense of reality, so there really is no reason to argue with you anymore.
how you can say that nile and necrophagist sound like everybody else and that its not impressive just boggles my mind. Those guys are extremely skilled musicians.
how you can say that nile and necrophagist sound like everybody else and that its not impressive just boggles my mind. Those guys are extremely skilled musicians.
The best since von Karajan! For those of you who don't understand the role of a conductor, listen to 15 versions of Beeth:5th and you will get it. Just like the director of a movie. Doesn't matter if all the actors know their lines, someone has to put it all together.
Maybe if you ever ONCE attended a rehearsal - to see the difficult job of interpreting the music and conveying that to the musician and then to have them work together, although each section of the orchestra is playing very different peices,roles...yet, all co-ordinated,mind you...THEN, maybe you might begin ot grasp the vital role of a conductor.
save your bad excuses, these are pathetic so called sheep musicians, cant play without sheet or someone directing them, pure incompetence, end of discussion
But you know what call them incompetent sheep musicians. Call all the YOUTH symphony, pathetic. Forget that they below the poverty line, and forget that compared to other teenagers that age, they are well ahead of the curb in maturity and mental capacity than, and this is their best shot of get out of Venezuela.
Forget all that. Forget some spends their lives caring about those kids.
Fantastic! for those looking to criticize the amazing talents of these young people - remember, Dudamel is what 24? This takes tremendous disciplne and talent to begin to perform like this and to draw this type of performance out of his musicians. As a conductor, he is the pulse- the heart of the music. He is the bridge btw the music and the orchestra....No 100 musicians CANNOT sit and play this. That is simply an ignorant statement.Dudamel is a prodigy!
He really brought something different to this music! even from this little clip I could tell, amazing. and guys that are saying the conductor doesnt matter, after being in an orchestra with more than 100 ppl, let me tell you that it would be impossible to get everyone on the same page! there would be too many musical ideas and it would be all over the place. that and the conductor tells you when something sounds wrong and its better to let the conductor worry abou noticing those things.
para mi es una bonita interpretacion de danzon N0. 2 de G Marques no hay nadie lo lo interprete como el Dudamel es uno de mejores musicos y directrores de orquesta mis felicitaciones
TheJose5850 3 months ago
este musico es un orgullo no momas para venezuela sino para todos los latinoamericanos, yo soy mexicano y yo lo concidero como mexicano para mi es de los musicos mas completos, me gusta su musica como la intepreta, es un angel de la musica. un saludo a los que les gusta este artista de la musica
TheJose5850 8 months ago
@TheJose5850 El Maestro Dudamel elevara las comosiciones Latino Americanos al nivel mundial con su superiores interpretaciones inigualable. Los directores y musicos de la mas alta nivel de musica de Europa no puede interpretar Marquez como lo hace el Maestro Dudamel y La Orquesta Sinfonica Simon Bolivar. El es un tesoro y un genio y representa lo mejor que es del tribu cosmico llamado LATINOAMERIANO.
padredemishijos12 4 months ago
Una vez Beethoven escribió : "musica tiene que encender el fuego en corazones humanos " . El Maestro Dudamel no hace nada otro !!! Talento , comprensión del ingenio de Bonn , alegria , intelecto y fuego , asi es Beethoven venezolano . Gracias
GriseldeHeineken 10 months ago
Dudamel es un talento, que logra su desarrollo por un sistema orquestal, producto de la creatividad y trabajo del maestro Jose Antonio Abreu, un sistema, que tiene mas de 30 años de creado, no es producto de un gobierno en particular. El poseer Venezuela tantas orquestas juveniles e infantiles, en todas las regiones del pais y con exelentes maestros, nacidos en este sistema, brinda la oportunidad de que muchos talentos logren desarrollarse.
TheSomaza 11 months ago
todo talento, obra, es de admirarse, porque ponerle una nacionalidad, edad, sexo, etc. ? si se hace para todos, hay que disfrutarla y apreciarla, con todos los sentidos.
ezl09 11 months ago
I am captivated! This fellow pulsates with his music
Ellysheva 1 year ago
@arrebiate You turn against democracy because the people don't vote the way you want them to or the way you think they ought to. A bit egotistical and arrogant, don't you think? I do not see Chavez as a military man. He seems to have a sea of support amongst the poorest segments of the population. You must ask yourself, how does he earn that support. Is he making sure that the oil revenue benefits the masses? Is that illegitimate? Who should that revenue benefit, if not them?
mc0558 1 year ago
DIOS!!! ESTOY AQUI DE CABEZA PORQUE NO SOPORTO LA TV. VENEZOLANA, NO SOPORTO A CHAVEZ Y ME ENCUENTRO A ESTOS DISCUTIENDO AQUI...! SI PUDIESE IRME A LA LUNA JURO QUE LO HARIA!!!
CLARODELUNA5 1 year ago
Let's make one thing clear. The Sistema was founded and created during the 70's under the democratic government of that time. Antonio Abreu, an economist and musician, along with other intelectuals and with the support of the government fougth to make it a reality. This is about the only remaining good thing that Chavez has not destroyed during his 10 years of rule. He is banking on it. It continues because it is good propaganda for him and does not dare to touch it. Thank God!! He doesn't.
milouhb 1 year ago
@milouhb Doesn't Chavez also take steps (like Ghaddaffy) to insure that the oil revenue trickles into the hands of ordinary people? Rest asured that I am not a Chavez fan. But there must be a foundation on which his power rests. What is that foundation?
mc0558 1 year ago
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milouhb 1 year ago
La educacion es gratuita en Venezuela, gracias a Chavez?. No. La salud es gratuita por Chavez?. No. Ahora, la Orquesta es excelente gracias a Chavez.?. No.Gracias al trabajo de muchos . Ha incrementado el presupuesto?, claro!, con la inflacion triple que hay, pq sabes que devaluo el bolivar. Le dio soporte a la orquest?, bien por eso, pero no digan que es gracias a el, pq con el afan de darle el merito a chavez haces desmerito de los que idearon ese hermoso proyecto.
arrebiate 1 year ago
@arrebiate Lo siento por decirlo pero suenas como una malagradecida. Una vez que Chavez les nego a la oligarquia la oportunidad de robar del gobierno, ya hubo plata para el pueblo para que gozen de salud publica gratis, educacion gratis a todo nivel y educacion de musica gratis, lo cual esta cresiendo por mucho, creo que esta a medio million de muchachos y muchachas. Deje de criticar su gobierno ante el mundo. Suenas como una vendepatria.
padredemishijos12 1 year ago
@padredemishijos12 ¿Quién le dijo a usted que los dictadores de izquierda le dan "plata para el pueblo"? Permítame instruirlo, compatriota, de manera que cuando nuestro país se termine de convertir en uno de zombis como Cuba, no diga usted que nadie le advirtió. Examine la historia reciente de la ex Unión Soviética, Alemania del Este y Polonia, y compárela con las teorías de Marx, por decir uno, y verá que uno cosa nunca convino con la otra. ¿Sabe por qué? Pregúnteme y le diré.
paticani 9 months ago
@arrebiate Gracias por compartir la opinion de la oligarquia. Porque tenemos que contractar 35,000 medicos y tecnicos de Cuba para atender por primera vez al pueblo. Antes del Presidente Chavez, el pueblo Venezolano estaba ABANDONADO. En todo Cuba cada familia tiene un medico o dos y cada alumno de la primaria tiene por minimo los padres con un bachillerato o graduado de la universidad. En EEUU hay escuelas donde ni un padre de alumno ha terminado su secundaria.
padredemishijos12 9 months ago
TOCAR Y LUCHAR!!!!!!!!!!
mrrts312 1 year ago
Great!!!!
Roscalie 1 year ago
Give me a break!!!!,.How can you tell that Chavez is involved in this successful music movement in Venezuela? It was the result of the hard work of many venezuelans during decades. Shut up, please. Are you living in Venezuela? Go there, and walk around the country at night, find a good job and try to keep faith in the democracy... sweet dreams!!!!
arrebiate 1 year ago
@arrebiate Under the democratically elected government of President Chavez, he has significantly and dramatically increased the budget. He has promised and committed his administration to triple the amount of students, from the poorest families, to study classical music. Moreover, he has committed to establishing four orchestras in the border region of Colombia for poor colombian kids. Lets give credit where credit is due.
alejoeisabel 1 year ago
Extraordinario! GRACIAS!!!!!
yocreo 1 year ago
omg I love the slow down on 1:55
christophenwang 2 years ago
@christophenwang me too
VOD713 1 year ago
Maravilloso!Tuve la suerte de participar en el pùblico.Esto fue en el parco della musica en Roma. Yo estaba! Lo bello es que asi se les abre un poco la mente en todo el mundo que cuando el talento viene sostenido no hay tercer mundo en la musica. Y han tenido que aceptarlo.VEry good!
oboistCONDUCTOR 2 years ago 2
woa, cuanto te envidio, juro que se me salio una lagrima, y no por q fuera malo, todo lo contrario, es demasiado bueno, y me encanta su cabello, me encanta.... lo hubieras grabado hasta el final
cheezums009 2 years ago
los gringos, como siempre pensando que son mejores que todo el mundo, hay que reconocer que esa ambiguedad es lo que los tiene fritos, reconozcan que hay en Sudamerica, talentos emergentes que le laten en la cueva a sus conceptos y se debe reconocer que uno de los logros para combatir la pobreza es el apoyo que Chávez les da a los pobres, sino vean el ejemplo de La Orquesta Juvenil.
betojose1000 2 years ago
Quien le dijo a usted que los gringos se creen lo mejor del mundo? Sabía usted que a Gustavo Dudamel lo acaban de contratar para ser el director de la Orquesta Sinfónica de Los Angeles California? Sabía usted que el acontecimiento ha sido tan grande que hasta celebraron en Los Angeles el "Día de Gustavo" El problema no es de los gringos, es de nosotros, que tenemos un grotesco complejo de inferioridad. Ricardo Barrios
SophiCookies 2 years ago 5
Estimado amigo, el problema está en que con tantas invasiones a otros países, para "exportar su democracia", que es bien atrasada, porque pasan un mes sin saber quien es el presidente, y luego "gana"el que saca menos votos, solamente con eso ya se creen que se la comieron, vea el caso del jonrón más largo y grande del mundo que lo conectó un venezolano (gato Galarraga), y aún no se lo reconocieron, de allí mi punto de vista, saludos y gracias
betojose1000 2 years ago
Estimado Sr., lo que expresé lo hice basándome en las invasiones a otros países que hacen para "exportar su democracia" que es bien atrasada, porque pasan un mes y no saben quien es el presidente electo y no solamente eso sino que gana el que saca menos votos, está además el caso del jonrón más largo del mundo dado por un venezolano (Gato Galarraga), que nunca le reconocieron, en cuanto al complejo de inferioridad no padezco de ese mal. Gracias por responder. Saludos.
betojose1000 2 years ago
Mi amigo Beto, no se le restan meritos a el Presidente Chavez; pero te informo que la Orquesta Sinfonica Juvenil Simon Bolivar fue creada el 12 de febrero de 1975, por el maestro José Antonio Abreu, gracias al apoyo del Gobierno de ese entonces.. logicamente a sido unas de las pocas cosas que en verdad valen en Vzla que los "Politicos" no pueden meter mano o dañarla porque le caeria medio mundo por asi decirlo...
mahs70 2 years ago 3
D acuerdo pero no olvidemos que este gobierno es el que le ha prestado más apoyo al programa del Dr. Abreu, con la signación de la materia de música, aparte de la ayuda que le hace a todos los estudiantes de la SimÓn Bolivar, otorgándole becas, mejorando sus condiciones de vida, etc. etc.,Saludos y gracias por responder.
betojose1000 2 years ago
He Beto mejor consiguete un trabajo... como que pasas mucho tiempo aqui escribiendo.... no seas webon....
VOD713 2 years ago
Why politic here? =/
malopex 2 years ago 2
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Dudamel is certainly not "the best", though he certainly is one of the most promising. His recordings are inconsistent as to being very fine to mediocre. For example, parts of his Mahler 5 are extraordinary. But his Shostakovich Symphonies are not at a level above many other conductors. Even in this Beethoven clip with poor sound, it starts out very impressive, but he chooses to have some unnecessary articulation towards the end of the clip. But if Rattle is in Berlin, this is outstanding.
PIanoReview 2 years ago
SiegfriedHorner you sound music expert that isway you should excuse this comment chain, most of all are just music lovers and venezuelans not at all musicians just talking through pride andpolitical views pro-against the crazy chavez.We respect your opinion from the technical view point
mnegrotti 2 years ago
Al Cesar lo que es del Cesar, Chavez y su revolucion no tienen nada que ver directamente con el exito d ela orquesta pero si hay que reconocerle que durante su gestion el sistema nacional d eorquestas no habia recibido tanto apoyo de ningun gobierno, esas giras internacionales son las que le han dado proyeccion y roce a la orquesta...ellos han crecido y se han proyectado al mundo como una excelente alternativa musical con el apoyo de este gobierno, mi hermano pertenece a la orquesta y nadie mas
camaca78 2 years ago
A fine young maestro, probably with much success in his future. But to say "The best", is an opinion, and very presumptuous. His youth, talent, and enthusiasm contribute to much popularity, and popularity in any art breeds success. Greatness is earned, or not earned with time..it remains to be seen. "The best", especially in conducting, is not quantifiable or definable. It cannot be measured soley by popularity or commercial success. I like what he does with most music.
SiegfriedHorner 2 years ago
Indeed Maestro Dudamel is an excellent conductor but he is the result of "El sistema" from Maestro Abreau (who had more than 30 years in music) and no Mr. Chavez, please stop linking Mr. Dudamel with political views, since music is universal and has no language or nationality is an universal patrimony!!
MarielaSimons 2 years ago
You are right, Chavez has nothing to do with Dudamel worldwide success. Some people are mental-ill and say "viva chavez, thanks Chavez", but people like you and me must stop these comments because we all know many Venezuelans who are poor and have gone abroad to study and work to become better people, and now in Venezuela Chavez restricted the dollars for venezuelan tourists and many people can not go abroad for tourism or personal reasons, so it is not "gracias chavez" that of Dudamel.
sommermannbt 2 years ago
My brother is in the orchestra and he told me never they got enough support from any previous government. I am not saying that they are talented because the revolution but we have to recognize that the international projection they have now would not ever happens without this government support. By the way..see the film Capitalism (Michael Moore)
camaca78 2 years ago
Camaca78 te la comiste, saludos y felicitaciones por esa respuesta.
betojose1000 2 years ago
@betojose1000 Dicen que Dios protege al inocente. Tanto camaca78 como tu, son unos jóvenes ingenuos. Ojala la historia y Dios los proteja. Maduren un poco. Temo que el mismo régimen de Chavez que ustedes celebran tanto, los llevara al desengaño. Se los digo porque la juventud es idealista, como debe ser, y se deja llevar por falsos lideres. La historia esta llena de ejemplos. Lean historia, de otros países, la propia. Busquen información. Venezuela los necesita.
milouhb 1 year ago
@camaca78 I was in Venezuela during the campaign that got Chavez elected, and I had never heard of SBYO while I was in Venezuela. The fact that Chavez invested enormous sums of money for travel to Europe and the US is a testemony to the intelligence of this government. Before Chavez, the politicians were robbing Venezuela blind. Now, more money is available for music education. Why do you think Chavez got elected in the first place?
alejoeisabel 1 year ago
@camaca78 That may be true, but remember, that none of the previous governments had the enormous revenues the Chavez regime has had. He was not the founder, he is just taking advantage ot the situation because it makes him look "good" outside Venezuela. It is called Propaganda. He will not dare to touch it. Now the program is mature, he is "cosechando" what others planted with great effort. Read history, your countries history and find out the truth. I am glad for your brother. Congratulations.
milouhb 1 year ago
There are many musicians that are prodogies. In fact it is very common; however, a conductor who is a prodogy is very rare indeed. Dudamel is a once in a century prodogy accoring to Claudio Abbado. He is destined to lead the greatest orchestras in the world. VIVA CHAVEZ and all the support that he has given the world. Getting Dudamel is like getting foreign aid from Venezuela.
alejoeisabel 2 years ago
Dudamel and the oschestra project existed before Chavez was elected as president. He always wants to get the credits from all successfull Venezuelans who project a positive side abroad. All governments must support arts, music, literature and all society´s needs such as social security and employment. He now became a communist he vows "patria socialismo o muerte" like all dictators, so you think people are stupid? He took over the Hilton Hotel, what support do you mean? He is anti capitalism!
sommermannbt 2 years ago
this man, truely inspires i agree, gustavo is by far the best composer. he's so passionate and easy to follow
voidmale 2 years ago
antoniostradivarius tines razon asi se habla
lenircarper 2 years ago
I think, generally speaking, the quality of classical music performed in South America is far higher than is appreciated in the Northern Hemisphere. Dadamel is fabulous. the Simon Bolivar Youth Orchestra is superb. One wishes one could freeze them as they are now and keep them that way for good. The musicianship, the energy the joy in the music are unsurpassed.
mc0558 2 years ago 21
@mc0558 I do wholly agree with you that one would want to "freeze them forever;" however, the following generation of musicians that are coming from the Venezuelan classical music system, if you can believe it, are even more awsome. Almost every village no matter how remote, even in the Amazon jungle, has a symphony orchestra and choir.
padredemishijos12 1 year ago
@padredemishijos12 That's wonderful! A nation of classical musicians--a miracle!! What a beautiful people!!!!
mc0558 1 year ago
@mc0558 completamente de acuerdo! The SBYO are up there with the finest orchestras in the world and Dudamel is electrifying.
Ctorres716 10 months ago
I wish people would leave more info if they post wonderful videos like this. I mean, of course we know that this is Beethoven's 5th, that Dudamel is conducting - but which orchestra, when and where???
Marlene55M 2 years ago 2
It would be SYBOV (Simon Bolivar Youth orchestra of Venezuela. no idea where though. Caracas maybe?
JackSafferyRowe 2 years ago
Probably. I have their "Fifth" recording, and might as well be. SBYOV :-)
Marlene55M 2 years ago
pero eso es para que vean que hay potencial musical en Venezuela y vamos a criticar constructivamente. ese muchacho se defiende cuando se monta en ese escenario, saborea la musica y goza hablando en criollo y me pongo a postar a los criticones que hablan por aquí, me gustaria verlos montados en un escenario con 15 mil personal a ver que es lo que venden asi como son buenos para criticar debes ser una verga de triana en lo que hagas. viva venezuela.
roquejapalma 2 years ago
disculpen lectores Duelale aquien le duela VENEZUELA ES UNA POTENCIA En la Música desde ya le estan fabricando al sucesor de Dudamel tiene 3 añitos
roquejapalma 2 years ago 2
Q arrecho el mundo entero se rinde a los pies de Dudamel y los chicos de la juvenil, y este idiota va a hablar paja, ah ya se que paso me imagino que su madre por consumir drogras y ser tan promiscua durante su embarazo no se le desarrollo el oido ni el sentido común. Anda a cantar y bailar canciones de Britney con tetas de papel, los hilos de tu hermana y los tacones del travesti de tu padre
carlosac1109 2 years ago
Esto es el colmo que ahora tengamos que defender a Dudamel. Este chico se defiende solo. Con su talento, con su trabajo, sus reconocimientos x la gente q sabe de música mundialmente. Su música no es para el público de galería. Aqui muchos escribiendo ingles, pero me da que son emigrantes que llegaron a USA. De algunos paises q ya todos sabemos como envidian los éxitos de los venezolanos.
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Copy and paste: Incredible high school musicians from Venezuela! Led by Gustavo Dudamel
faveca3 2 years ago
Hay que apreciar el talento venezolano y muchos menos politisarlo no debn caer tan bajos, seamos venezolanos.....
rdk27 2 years ago
Chavez es como las moscas y todo el que se deja tocar por el.... bueno ya saben... me gustaria saber algo. Si Dudemel no triunfara en el exterior algun venezolano supiera su nombre siquiera.. la mayoria de nosotros (no me incluyo) somos así, no apresiamos lo nuestro si no es por la mirada del otro... y el caso mas patético son los propios chavistas, odian a Venezuela y por eso se la regalan a cualquiera.
mascalote 2 years ago
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Lo considero muy buen musico, lastima que se haya prestado para muchas cosas que todavia no acepto. lo respeto pero ya no lo admiro como antes.
NATY2S4 2 years ago
cosas como cuales man?
pandoracorsa 2 years ago
Orgulloso** por sia porq se pueden agarrar por alli!! ajaja
saludos pa lante : ))
sKprmAN 2 years ago
Orgolloso de ser Venezolano!
no entiendo porq un ignorante habla tanto de la ignorancia? es porq se cree un sabio, mas no se da cuenta y no busca la verdad, Y mientras no sabe se queda en la ignoracia, diciendole a los demas ignorantes, es un problema pero eso se resuelve d una sola manera VIVA CHAVEZ
sKprmAN 2 years ago
dudamel es el mejor es tanto que aqui en inglaterra estan creando una orquesta igual al metodo de venezuela en las escuelas en escocia y se llama el sistema estoy orgullo de dudamel talento y para mucho exportar le doy la felicitacion de pana un venezolano en nglaterra
richarduarte 2 years ago 6
si alexpe71, empezando por ti q eres el primer IGNORANTE y ANIMAL EMZAPATADO!!!.... VENEZUELA es el mejor pais de latinoamerica y del mundo!!! estan los mejores musicos prueba de ello esta el EXCELENTE director de orquesta Gustavo Dudamel!!!...
harheimar 3 years ago
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SI, EL MEJOR EN INSEGURIDAD
chofechofe 2 years ago
Pero bueno es que imaginate... con personas desquiciadas como tu que lo unico que hacen es criticar es obvio que el pais nunca va a salir adelante. Yo voto poque personas como tu se vayan de mi pais y nunca mas regresen. Quizas Caracas sea una ciudad insegura, pero que haces tu para mejorar eso? Burro de dos patas.... Se que no es tu trabajo, pero si cada Venezolano pone un granito de arena podemos sacar al pais adelante.
AntonioStradivarius 2 years ago
Estoy orgullosa de ser venezolana tan solo por gente como Gustavo Dudamel...porque hay otros .........
MaryHaydee 3 years ago 4
não vejo nada de estranho neste ensaio ou apresentação, que seja ambas.
the best ?
sem noção esse titulo.
como disse os outros comentários
talvez seja a ignorância de quem colocou esse titulo ou talvez a falta de cultura.
the best??????
sem nexisso.
isadorafernand 3 years ago
alexpe71 la primera frase q pusistes la de gracian entonces va contigo, encaja perfectament XD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
signo18 3 years ago
the most Gothic 5th ever !!
johngotwalt 3 years ago
Dudamel regendo é incrível!!!!
vilbenatti 3 years ago
dudamel é semplicemente GRANDE cme questa orchestra capito?
kassem7 3 years ago 3
Sieee q le pasa aqui a todo el mundo? Por favor no vengan a cuestionar el talento de Dudamel! Por que seria cuestion de envidia. Lo consideramos un maestro por saber usa la musica para cambiar la situación como por ejemplo en Venezuela, Y estamos orgullosos de nuestra patria y que? él no solo a ayudado a mi pais sino ahora en el sus de los Angeles en EEUU. Puro marketing? Niñoooo oyelo y te callaras!
Marije433 3 years ago
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Questo direttore é una poca miseria...puro "marketing".
Archimboldorrio 3 years ago
Sr. Archimboldorrio, como se le refleja la madres de las envidia. Usted solo refleja, lamentablemete, la triste miseria que reina en su triste y opacp cerebro. Viva Venezuela Carajo!!!
chapappo 3 years ago 4
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Totalmente de acuerdo Archimboldorrio. No te preocupes por los venezolanos, que no saben de música y a los que solo mueve el nacionalismo... tienen musica clasica desde hace pocos años y creen que son el centro del mundo cuando lo unico que tienen es una orquesta de jovenes de nivel medio, un director y un contrabajista en la Berliner.
robertclaubert 3 years ago
And you are who???
Funny. You have no idea what you're talking about.
anacristina1974 3 years ago
hahaha stai zitto dudamel e il migliore del mondo tu sei uno stronzo che non sa niente di musica ;)
kassem7 3 years ago
yes like in your country is not marketing in the music you! escoria pobre mentes como la de usted disculpe si lo llamo cabellero es que no lo conosco muy bien , la ignorancia es atrevida.
latinrosetje 3 years ago
un monte oscuro de ignorancia?? como puedes decir eso?? yo creo q el monte oscuro es tu cerebro.. en venezuela hay mas orquestas q en todas las q hay en latinoamerica juntas..
la verdad es q se ha encendido una luz q jamàs se apagarà, Gustavo es solo el comienzo, muchos talentos vienen detras de el..
franzfiguera 3 years ago 3
I would've loved to hear this entire performance; sounds like I wouldn't be dissapointed at all. :)
ThaSchwab 3 years ago
young and powerful~!!
parkthoven 3 years ago
Yo ando por todos y cada uno de los Videos del Maestro Dudamel para siempre calificarlo alto y dejar mi mejor comentario porque hay que estar orgulloso de este talento. Esta la Venezuela que siempre he visto desde niña y la que espero siga aqui, para el futuro de los mios. Gustavo eres grande dios te bendiga.
syleriam 3 years ago 4
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Yo tambien soy Venezolano, no vayamos a caernos a mo---nes, lamentablemente este joven es una gran luz en un monte oscuro de ignorancia que es Venezuela.
alexpe71 3 years ago
ASí como la probre luz que entra en tu pequeño cerebro podrido..... mejor deja de ser venezolano escoria miserable
elvismujica 3 years ago
alexpe71, ignorante eres tú pendejo y no creo que seas venezolano, nadie habla así de su tierra y por si no lo sabías ahora todos los niños y jóvenes que quieren ser músicos tienen un instrumento, entre ellos mi hija y mi sobrinito que estuvieron en clase teóricas durante 6 meses y ahora ya tienen su violín y flauta sin pagar ni un centavo por ellos y así como ellos miles de venezolanos, infórmate, aquí el estúpido eres tú
lunaclarita 3 years ago
"El primer paso de la ignorancia es presumir de saber" (Gracián)
"El saber y la razón hablan, la ignorancia y el error gritan" (A. Graf)
"La verdadera sabiduría está en reconocer la propia ignorancia" (Sócrates)
Te felicito por haber descubierto la musica, Venezuela es un pais hermoso de gente hermosa, y como extrano a mi pais, pero lamentablemente es un pais con mucha ignorancia.
alexpe71 3 years ago
Y a Dios gracias que te fuiste y no creo que extrañes nada, ah y te felicito porque supongo que donde estás todo el mundo está a tu nivel intelectual, o sea todos son muuuy "inteligentes", allí no hay ignorancia, que bueno por ti, quédate ahí por el resto de tu vida, aquí no se te extraña y que te vaya muy bien.
lunaclarita 3 years ago 2
a pajuo.. debe ser q en dond kieras q estes no ay ignorancia.. mejor no digas q eres venezolano.. PORQ COMO SOMOS TAN IGNORANTES.. no creo q extrañes nada.. y como dice lunaclarita kedat por alla.. porq venirte a vivir a venezuela ES SER UNO MAS DEL PAIS DE IGNORANTES..
viva venezuela..
gerardosvp09 3 years ago
ignorancia hay en todas partes, lamentablemente en Venezuela hay demasiada
alexpe71 3 years ago
alex creo que le das mal olor a esta gran interpretacion, asii que sigue siendo el embajador segun tu de nuestra ignorancia en donde te encuentres, te queremos mucho jajajaja
klarsomwill 2 years ago
Si tu eres Venezolano yo soy Pablo Canela. Porque no dejas la falsedad y tu discurso de doble via? Obviamente no eres Venezolano y si naciste aqui PUES NUNCA FUISTE VENEZOLANO. Porque un Venezolano no se expresa de su pais como lo haces tu. El Venezolano es demasiado orgullo y esta lleno de muchas cosas por las cuales sentirse orgulloso. Desde pequeños cuando uno entonaba el himno en la escuela los maestros le enseñan a uno que Venezuela es el mejor pais del mundo. Yo creo que es asi.
AntonioStradivarius 2 years ago 2
es verdad amigo...
rauljrc 2 years ago
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despues de todo...tenemos algunas cosas buenas en venezuela...
rosmeryaustralia 3 years ago
la cagaste "rosmeryaustralia"
gabrielkanewwe 3 years ago
No. eso es en la sala Rios Reyna del Teatro Teresa Careño...
jobelieve 3 years ago
Eso es en el aula magna de la UCV?
vita2323 3 years ago
Sala Rios Reyna del Teresa Carreño
FreeMHZ 3 years ago
BRAVOOOOO MAESTRO !!! I heard some discoveryes in 5th !!!!! BRAVO and CONGRADULATIONS for YOUR New carrer with LA PHIL.: YOU ARE GRAET MUSICIAN!
WISHING YOU LONG LIVE AND ALL THE BEST !!!
sam0xin 3 years ago 3
Are you serious? It's a nice little melody that came along somewhere between Beethoven's 4th and 6th Symphony.
genebgene 4 years ago
What is the name of the piece he is conducting?Could anyone please tell me?
aldasinger 4 years ago
Hi aldasinger! It is the Fifth Symphony by Beethoven. As to the mean comments, gimme a break! These days classical music is almost nonexistent in the school system (except Venezuela)! I'm not surprised that someone might not recognize Beethoven.
JEP177777 3 years ago
Thanks for that,Beethoven's fifth Symphony,much appreciated.
aldasinger 3 years ago
same
LuisJ11 3 years ago
Yo Nile, I guarantee 100% that every person in this video knows more about music than you think. The fact that each one of them are involved in an orchestra isn't a matter of lack of ability, but a matter of choice. You think your ears are so good, I'm pretty sure that each orchestra member in the video can identify the 5 or 6 chords you play in every song that you have composed after just listening to them a couple of times. A song is child's play compared to the music that they perform.
pila134 4 years ago 2
oh yeah, i bet these sheep talentless musicians could come up with my stuff instead of playing covers all the time and reading a sheet and being led by a clown waving his arms, you are soo right.
niledeathmetalgods 4 years ago
LOL. You're forgetting one thing. That the composers are what counts, and composers such as Beethoven, Wagner, Tchaikovsky happen to be the biggest musical geniuses who have ever lived. Now heavy metal musicians might be extremely able, but they can't write symphonies to save their lives.
So why come on here and criticise the way people play? Its what people write that counts .
revoltz7 3 years ago
they cant write to save their lives? what are you talking about?! some of the best musicians on earth play death metal
you might want to check out necrophagist, morbid angel and nile and then come back to me. Also all of them are highly influenced by classical music.
niledeathmetalgods 3 years ago
No I said they can't write a symphony. I'm well aware of the fact that heavy metal/death musicians are often brilliant players and there's no way I can even claim to be half as good.
Writing really good death metal takes a lot of talent, but I its not the same as writing something like The Ride of The Valkyries.
revoltz7 3 years ago
well they have actually done some classical music too, and its possible to do it, look at vangelis for example, he is capabale of writing awesome classical stuff.
niledeathmetalgods 3 years ago
I'm not trying to say that if you write or play death metal, you definitely can't write really good orchestral music. I'm sure there are some really talented people out their who could do it if they studied orchestral music enough.
I'm not a fan of vangelis though...
Sry I think my original post was actually way too snobby and condescending. What I should have said, was that really good orchestral music is the hardest music to write.
revoltz7 3 years ago 2
yes i agree, there are multi layers and its complex stuff so i agree. I have the highest respect for classical music even though i mainly death metal. There are some death metal bands that really play extremely complex music though. Check out "nile - execration text" and listen to the instruments :)
niledeathmetalgods 3 years ago
They can have acceptable musical knowledge., but to make art out of it, well, sorry to disappoint you but I guess that never happens when it comes to death metal....
iaquil 3 years ago
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what are you talking about? death metal is more art than this, they are extremely talented musicians who play death metal, why dont you check out necrophagist, nile and tell me they are talentless.
niledeathmetalgods 3 years ago
Humm...More art than this? Than the entire baroque, classical and romantic repertoire? I don´t think so. These musical pieces are more complex than the popular music. Btw, I´ve heard the musical groups you mentioned and, yeah, they are talented (I´m not talking about talent) but the 10 or some songs I watched sounded the same, always drums and guitar playing...and not much else...
iaquil 3 years ago 4
lmao death metal is more art than beethoven. okay then.
tflynn17 3 years ago
Acabo de salir de un conciertaso con el, es el mejor director que he tenido en mi vida, ES EL MEJOR!!! Y LA ORQUESTA SINFONICA JUVENIL DE VENEZUELA NI HABLAR... SON LO MAXIMO... ME QUEDE CON LAS GANAS!
yani2485 4 years ago
OMGosh! I just noticed how EVERYBODY moves just like Alejandro. They all *move* together! It's like watching a line of trees move all together in the winds of a violent storm. Un-freakin'-believable!
charlesviolin 4 years ago
You know, after all you said about your brother's piece, I was disappointed. And those riff videos on your profile? Those would be better if you had a sense of time.
B0rend 4 years ago
obviously you dont know anything about music AT ALL. Just because death metal is way above your head doesnt mean its bad, same with the piano piece which is something that he has written himself instead of playing other peoples work
niledeathmetalgods 4 years ago
I'm glad you think that. It's actually quite funny.
B0rend 4 years ago
Nile,
Although orchestras may play the same songs over and over, the arrangements are usually very different and the reason the conductor is so critical and praised is because he/she is at liberty to add to or take away from the arrangement -- especially the changes to the tempo. The members of the orchestra can't know how the conductor is going do this without practice. The reason the conductor gets praise is because of his interpretation of the piece.
kburggibbs 4 years ago
do you mean he can make them change tempo from slow to much faster for example? even if he does that they could predetermine that themselves if they want to do that, i still see no use for that guy if the musicians themselves were competent enough.
niledeathmetalgods 4 years ago
Yes, that's how it is in music. That's the point of being the conductor. Yes, the can also redetermine that also because it's it written on the sheet notes
pootikin 4 years ago
He's amazing. Absolutely one hundred percent amazing. And to care so much for those children is noble.
JerilynTheRN 4 years ago
Unfortunately, and for my displeasure, I have read some negative comments on him or the musicians that appear on this video. For God sake! How much ignorance! Unbelievable! If at least, these were sound and informed comments! But no! They are just a wide display of ignorance and some sort of weird, distorted mix of envy, arrogance, and underlying discrimination... I feel pity for this (or these) coitados...they deserve no less than be called coitados.
Iimage13 4 years ago
I just got to know that he's been hired by the Los Angles Philharmonic Orchestra and its president said that he was hired because he has the talent to shape the 21st century music. I think it is implied that she (the president of LA Orchestra) talked about the classic music. Dudamel is talented, passionate and deserves all the merit! Classic music desperately needed someone like him!
Iimage13 4 years ago
yeah they desperatly need someone to wave his hands like a madman,thats exactly what we need!
my brother is about 100 times more musical and talented than this guy and actually CREATES classical music on piano.
niledeathmetalgods 4 years ago
really? have you met dudamel?
About you said earlier, when two guitarists play the same song, they play it 2 very different ways. so lets say two of your favorite guitarists are in concert together, and they dont rehearse and agree on tempo and style it sounds like crap: a conductor uses the entire orchestra to play music. and yes, orchestras do play music that is old, but there are constantly new pieces being composed. dont talk when you dont know anything about what you are criticizing.
Kkaburuhjengee 4 years ago
how many times do i have to say it? they read the notes, cant memorize a song they are playing a cover of AND need a guy waving his arms to be in sync.
None of that should be needed if you are a competent group of musicians
niledeathmetalgods 4 years ago
1. You try memorizing a whole symphony with all the other music on the concert dumbass
2. Have you ever tried getting an entire group of amazing musicians entirely together without a conductor? It's not easy. By the way, that's not the conductor's only job...his job is do interpret the music so the entire orchestra interprets it the same.
You don't deserve to be a musician if you don't even know what an orchestra IS asshole.
pilsburycookies8 4 years ago
LAME excuses for being incompetent musicians. They should know the songs without the sheet and the clown waving his arms, end of discussion. I dont see these people are real musicians.
niledeathmetalgods 4 years ago
what do you play? Piano? I'm just wondering. If you have any friends that play orchestral instruments that you know are real musicians, they'll say the exact same thing.
pilsburycookies8 4 years ago
i play guitar, death metal, you can see my videos on my profile. My brother plays piano and is about 1000 times more talented than these "musicians"
niledeathmetalgods 4 years ago
Piano is also an easier instrument to play in many respects, same with guitar. No worries about intonation, bowings, stuff like that. And besides, death metal is a very different style of music, and it requires very different skills. I don't think you have much of a right to talk about orchestras you know nothing about and I hope you realize that. Until you've played in one, don't talk.
pilsburycookies8 4 years ago
Im a musician and can hear with my EARS which is the ultimate judge in music. You know what i feel about these people, i dont see them as musicians, i see them as sheep "musicians" who play other peoples songs without even having the ability to remember them, they need sheet and a guy waving his arms.
check out "treasure moment new demo song" here on youtube and you ll see my brother playing piano, his OWN composition and tell me these guys are better in any way.
niledeathmetalgods 4 years ago
The reason everyone doesn't compose their own stuff all the time is because they'd RATHER play better music, composed by other people. I know that's not the case for everyone, certainly not you or your almighty brother, but honestly, millions of people like Beethoven's 5th and other classical masterpieces a hell of a lot better than that piece of crap piece your brother wrote. And in case you didn't know, those are the same musicians that have countless hours of music memorized already, man.
pilsburycookies8 4 years ago
Spoken like a truly ignorant ass!
lovinjapan 4 years ago
...should be obvious who I'm commenting on!
lovinjapan 4 years ago
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yeah ignorant, i make my own music instead of playing other peoples all the time and i dont need a sheet OR a guy waving his arms for me.
niledeathmetalgods 4 years ago
I'm guessing you cant even READ music let alone have had a lesson on theory/composition...and apparently I have hit a nerve!
lovinjapan 4 years ago
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thats right, i dont need to be able to read OR have a lesson of music like a sheep, i have EARS and can hear if what im playing is good or not AND i can compose MY OWN music.
niledeathmetalgods 4 years ago
So you are now officially the best musician ever without ANY training whatsoever? I HIGHLY doubt that. So you can just know that what you're doing is right? Without any former training? Okay, lets talk about musicianship. The people in this orchestra have all been playing music since a very young age. They obviously have spent hours practicing, instead of spending hours on their mothers couch eating Doritos telling her about what an amazing musician he is.
atrain118 4 years ago 2
If this whole thing started about conducting, trust me, the conductor is far more than an over -paid metronome. A conductor is a bridge from the composer to the ensemble. A conductor portrays style, articulation, etc. Something you probably have no idea about. You mean music is more than just playing notes? Oh my god, my world just got flipped. There is more to music than you could ever comprehend. Go back to your loud, disgusting screaming and leave the real music to the real musicians
atrain118 4 years ago 3
see? you disrespect death metal, thats the first sign of ignorance since our music has some of the most skilled musicians in the world and thats a fact! these orchestra guys while very skilled on instruments obviously cant write something of their own to save their lives.
niledeathmetalgods 4 years ago
I beg to differ. First I would like to see these "most skilled musicians in the world." And secondly, as part of my theory education we wrote compositions. I am a composer, and trust me, not everybody needs to write their own works, the market has already been saturated with centuries of fantastic compositions, where as your style of "music" has only been around for a couple decades.
atrain118 4 years ago 2
ok, check out the band nile with the song "execration text" now you may hate the vocals but listen to the instruments.
there is also another band called "necrophagist" check them out on myspace, about 100 times more skilled musicians than these guys.
niledeathmetalgods 4 years ago
Okay, so I listened to both the songs. They sound like every other Death Metal song I've ever heard. Talk about "sheep." I don't see how you say they are more skilled than these people. I can't tell which orchestra, but I know Gustavo's main orchestra is the Simon Bolivar YOUTH orchestra. I have watched many of their videos and they are fantastic. You obviously have an extremely warped sense of reality, so there really is no reason to argue with you anymore.
atrain118 4 years ago 3
how you can say that nile and necrophagist sound like everybody else and that its not impressive just boggles my mind. Those guys are extremely skilled musicians.
niledeathmetalgods 4 years ago
how you can say that nile and necrophagist sound like everybody else and that its not impressive just boggles my mind. Those guys are extremely skilled musicians.
niledeathmetalgods 4 years ago
Gustavo conduce la orquesta con mucha pasión lo que hace que su música suene genial.
yonblanco 4 years ago
this version of beeth the 5th has a esclante in the 7th merasure that im not fond of but other than that i love this version
connace123 4 years ago
okay, just curious, did the conductor create the whole music for the whole orchestra? or do the players create the notes for themselves...??
lala9293 4 years ago
grande dudamel , eres el orgullo de nuestra patria te admiro... eres muestra de que cuando hay talento y ganas todo es posible.. adelante...
ekalet8824 4 years ago
The best since von Karajan! For those of you who don't understand the role of a conductor, listen to 15 versions of Beeth:5th and you will get it. Just like the director of a movie. Doesn't matter if all the actors know their lines, someone has to put it all together.
Atommkatt 4 years ago
Maybe if you ever ONCE attended a rehearsal - to see the difficult job of interpreting the music and conveying that to the musician and then to have them work together, although each section of the orchestra is playing very different peices,roles...yet, all co-ordinated,mind you...THEN, maybe you might begin ot grasp the vital role of a conductor.
spritelymuse 4 years ago
save your bad excuses, these are pathetic so called sheep musicians, cant play without sheet or someone directing them, pure incompetence, end of discussion
niledeathmetalgods 4 years ago
But you know what call them incompetent sheep musicians. Call all the YOUTH symphony, pathetic. Forget that they below the poverty line, and forget that compared to other teenagers that age, they are well ahead of the curb in maturity and mental capacity than, and this is their best shot of get out of Venezuela.
Forget all that. Forget some spends their lives caring about those kids.
Its easier.
mergu84 4 years ago
Forget someone spends their lives caring about those kids.
mergu84 4 years ago
Fantastic! for those looking to criticize the amazing talents of these young people - remember, Dudamel is what 24? This takes tremendous disciplne and talent to begin to perform like this and to draw this type of performance out of his musicians. As a conductor, he is the pulse- the heart of the music. He is the bridge btw the music and the orchestra....No 100 musicians CANNOT sit and play this. That is simply an ignorant statement.Dudamel is a prodigy!
spritelymuse 4 years ago
He really brought something different to this music! even from this little clip I could tell, amazing. and guys that are saying the conductor doesnt matter, after being in an orchestra with more than 100 ppl, let me tell you that it would be impossible to get everyone on the same page! there would be too many musical ideas and it would be all over the place. that and the conductor tells you when something sounds wrong and its better to let the conductor worry abou noticing those things.
musicmary1331 4 years ago