Just when you thought that Sarah Palin had destroyed the dumb blonde myth....
Sorry, ClimateGate was a tempest in a teapot based on a couple of out-of-context e-mails and misunderstood scientific jargon. Because of the ClimateGate claims, the CRU has been investigated - and cleared.
There is no climate gate. You can find the latest news on uk.news.yahoo under no-deliberate-malpractice-in-climate Now lets put the people who illegaly entered these websites to be put in jail since this is a crime.
4. While 95 per cent of the CRU data have been publicly available for years and some of the remainder is subject to confidentiality agreements with overseas organisations, the report did find that CRU scientists had refused to hand over their data to climate "sceptics" and the University may have breached the Freedom of Information Act.
"The lion that squeaked" was the title of the article
2. The results and conclusions of CRU research have been independent verified by other methodologies and other sources of data. The Unit's analyses "have been repeated and the conclusions have been verified".
3. There is no evidence to suggest that Professor Jones was trying to subvert the peer review process.
Here ya go squealers, the results of the investigation into climategate:
1. There was nothing untoward behind the "trick" used to "hide the decline" in the temperature record. The phrases were colloquial terms without any sinister implications. The Committee found that the "evidence patently fails to support" the claim that these words reveal a conspiracy to hide evidence that does not fit with global warming, and that CRU Director Professor Phil Jones has "no case to answer".
bernzeppi , Certainly you must be the Wise One and your manerism toward women is just impecable! For all your insults you have been making yourself look ignorant! If you believe there is a differance between one party or the other, This president or that one I feel bad for you. Maybe Global Warming is true and you should run and hide underground, Or check in with binladin and see if he has room in the cave! You two can become friends while you wait out the"CRISIS!" Together!
My mannerism is just as poor towards deliberate male ignoramuses as it is towards deliberate female ignoramuses... so don't go thinking you get special treatment.
(BTW you spelt 'mannerism', 'impeccable' and 'difference' wrong... for christ's sake you've got spellcheck! Also 'binladin' needs a capital. Not the sharpest knife in the draw are ya?)
It's interesting how 'climategate' in your mind brings up 'binladin'... odd connection... due to low neuronal density, or poor upbringing?
@bernzeppi Regardless of punctuation and a few mis-spelled words the message speaks for itself, You have no respect for others and even less for yourself! Your immature attitude speaks volumes about your character. Forget The Global Warming fraud the greatist danger we face as a society is people such as yourself! You degrade yourself and you arguement by your childesh actions. Have fun getting no where in life acting like ignorance is your only tool!
@bernzeppi What are you talking about? Lying about what? You wouldn't know facts if they hit you in the face! Here is a fact people like you just can't get a grip on reality!
@BruceH59 Yeah, the OISM petition. It was shown to be a farce. It included such names as Ginger Spice and Michael J. Fox, and included dentists and nutritionists as "scientists".
It was also shipped along with a anti-GW newspaper editorial disguised as an official National Academy of Sciences publication.
@Shanbo26 I guess we should just trust the corrupt liars that wanted to fire editors that won't preach the corrupt peer review slanted lies of Globull warming. You know like the liars that said Polar bears are endangered or the liar about the Himalaya glacier or never mind after so many exposed lies I can't believe anyone is gullible enough to fall for this farce.
@bernzeppi You know looking at your You tube channel was sad at what a loser in life you truly are. 12 friends after 3 years what a pathetic loser you truly are. Indeed you are just a lonely scum bag with nothing better to do with your useless life but spread hate on the internet. Looking at your comment section proved you have no clue how to deal with people. A lonely loser in life with no friends Nothing but a miserable low life spreading your misery across YT that is sad and Pathetic.
Now I have to tell you... it sounds very much like you ARE a holocaust denier... certainly from your avoidance behavior to that question FOXnews (any news actually) will have you pegged as a holocaust denier
"Rush Limbaugh, we have a wriggler!"
Also I presume you think smoking doesn't cause cancer, fluoride is mind control poison, AIDS is not caused by a HIV and sedition is favorably implied in the bill of rights....
tell me I'm wrong on all counts... I really hope I am!
So you have a couple comments taken out of connect or mis understood bye ppl looking for justification of there own point of view rather then look at it objectively.
The only thing thats in those emails is that tree-rings are inaccurate, which is why there suggesting not using them any more. Is one out of many measuring tools becomes inaccurate does that mean that 1: something changed and it shouldn't be used any more. 2: that it never was accurate 3: all the sensors are wrong?
Bonn or bust The UNs last, desperate bid for unelected world government
There are a few true-believers left among the national delegates, but more of them than before are open to discussion of the previously-forbidden question what if the climate extremists have made the whole thing up?
The answer to that question is Yes they are all exposed fraudster and now the whole world knows it for a fact. LOL The weasel lost this round.
Yep daily I get mah gun and kill anyone who even smells like a denier... if ah cood onley get a gun!
Thems is illegal here!
That is where merica is superior.... I could get gun there!
Ahhh sooo wan't a gun!
I guess I'll jes hafta spend mah spare money on international travel, education, technology, good food'n'wine, music, and women (of appropriate age) etc
@bernzeppi Environmentalism is a spawn of communism. The book will help you make the connection between the millions who died under the regimes that embraced it and the tsunami of lies that maintains environmentalism to this day.
Fat, Drunk and stupid is no way to go through life loser sorry the whole world caught on to Globull warming scam it over so do everyone a favor and remove yourself from the gene pool to save the planet nutcase.
@bernzeppi It is no accident that Earth Day, April 22, is also the birth date of Vladimir Lenin, the Marxist who led the Russian revolution that led to the establishment of communism in 1917.
So you are worshipping a Communist because you are too gullible to think without someone telling you to hate mankind like a good gullible Eco Communist. LOL
@bernzeppi One thing I learn about the Gaia Cult is that after then have been exposed as a fraud and lie after lie after lie after lie about Globull warming. There Cult followers that are simpleminded drunk easy to fool gullible shallow people well then attack anyone that reminds them at what a loser they are in life. Sorry you are all alone and drunk half the time. Find a new cult to join gullible one.
@bernzeppi Talking to the spoiled brats of Gaia Cult.
Globull warming is exposed fraud- Cult members reply-Who cares about facts
Al Bore film was found to have 10 major lies in it> Who cares about lies
Polar Bears are NOT endangered- Who cares about reality
Himalaya glacier is not going to melt away- Who cares about truth
The ocean is not rising- Who cares about science. This is a cult you either agree with us or we will lock you up we are the spoiled brats of the Gaia Cult. LOL
@bernzeppi I figure you would listen that is why I brought up all the facts about the Eco nuts working with the Communism and Hitler. It is proven fact. Only loser with no brain believe anything Hitler and Lennin say. But you just anohter brain dead gullible communist thanks for proving it once again. Not drunk tonight. You really should go find a woman to spend your time with instead of acting like the fool you truly are on Youtube.
@shazizz You come from a different planet to me. She is stupid, loudmouthed, unthoughtful and really... a bush pig. She has NO redeeming qualities Well spoken fer a dumbass You do know by now that the scientists involved were cleared of wrongdoing? Probably not... but you could have actually read the emails concerned where you would find the conspiracy is a fantasy... they've been leaked... no excuse all together now... fant-asy fan-tasy c'mon now chillun' yo kin do it.... fant-asy fant-asy
Who ever claimed there were "no conspiracies"? What I and many others have a problem with are UNSUBSTANTIATED conspiracy claims, such as this bullshit-mongering over "climategate." Lol. Giving it such a stupid fucking name just b/c of a few emails that Fox News and the right think "prove" that all climate scientists everywhere who say AGW exists are all just "fudging the data." I'm sorry, but a conspiracy on the scale and magnitude which you claim is impossible.
@whoo689 Folks like you are saying that EVERY scientist who's not a total skeptic and believes based on his own research that AGW is real is just lying and wants more money and gov't control, but you have ZERO proof that this goes on. You have yet to uncover any big bribery scandals where a liberal scientist, for example, pays off the peer-review journal editor to publish a bunch of false articles, or anything like that. I'm not saying skeptics don't have a case, but there's no conspiracy.
@whoo689 Why do all you Gaia cult fruitcakes always spam comments. Could it be you hate being exposed as gullible shallow people that believe the fraud Al Gore. LOL
Globull warming is exposed fraud so find something else to cry about you losers.
I think the problem is the uneducated need to feel vindicated... that's why FOXnews works.
Same kind of mentality that denies the lunar landing... hell, 400,000 people worked on the Apollo project... and it's easy to track em down... but there are still plenty of 20 year olds who cannot believe it... well, they weren't there were they?
@bernzeppi BTW you are drunk loser that joined the arrogant Communism Gaia Cult but being that you only half a brain cell working you fail in research to read the Eco nutcase only care about command and control of people not saving the planet. That is why gullible loser like you fall for it. So let see how many lies have been exposed on the Globull warming fraud it has been so many I lost count. Keep preaching your shallow simple cult view Globull warming is real. LOL
@whoo689 You can't just say "It's a conspiracy" without actual proof to back it up. What everyone on the Right is going after are a tiny percentage of the emails that are "revealing." But when you do a little more research, you realize they're not all that abnormal. How does "hide the decline" automatically mean "Fudging data"? It seems you're not that well-versed in scientific jargon. Or the email about the travesty. He was simply expressing frustration, not revealing that he was lying.
@whoo689 We trust loser that had 30 years to come up with a soltuion and the only one they came up with is taxing everyone to death. What a bunch of clowns.
@whoo689 You guys usually look at 3 or 4 emails out of 1000s in the list of hacked ones and claim that somehow proves your case. But 3 out of 1,000 is not even CLOSE to 1%.
There's nothing 'sceptical' about believing this climategate slander. If you look actually into those emails you'll see that the whole thing has been pulled way out of context.
The global warming cultists attempted to re-brand by avoiding the term global warming and saying their agenda was to deal with climate change. Not just any climate change of course but sudden climate change, again the fault of humans, again requiring taxes and obedience to a global authority to solve.
We kniow everyone was laughing at the cult about Globull warming so they had to change the name to cover up the lie. Hahaha
Remember the warnings when all the CATS were fitted in the 70s. ' Dioxide might end up being a bigger problem than monoxide.' ?cont...
Funny how no one moaned back then. They only moaned in the late eighties when Exxon & Koch realised the implications. Hence the Murdoch run, Fox News anti AGW roadshow.
All this crap about "carbon" and "global warming" humans polluting the air etc. WHY DON'T THEY JUST STOP CUTTING DOWN THE RAIN FORESTS? No-one ever suggest that, do they! Peace
*****COPY AND PASTE TO ALL "CLIMATE GATE" VIDEOS****
ummmmm... The British House of commons investigated "Climate Gate" and they found that "no one misrepresented any data". They also found that "Global Warming is happening and it is induced by Human Activity" (New York Times). Are we gonna see Fox News or the people who made this video apologize? I think not.
Coldest winter in decades Gaia cult says that just weather not climate. LOL
The exposed hoax the flat earther that hate cars and electricity with 3 decades their only useless soltuion was tax everyone to death. I hope the anti science corrupt peer review is toss in the trash can. No more public money for corrput peer review liars.
Once upon a time there was doctor who promised to save the lives of my grandchildren. He was an honest man, didn't work for any commercial enterprise, and said all they had to do was stop eating certain sweets.
But then appeared a man who worked for the sweet company. He denounced the doctor. Called him a liar in public. The doctor was shamed. The salesman made lots of money. My grandkids carried on eating the sweets. AND THEY DIED.
WOW, she can read, it is unfortunate that she can't think for herself...this is a good example of a follower and not a leader, please learn the literature before opening your mouth, this prevent you from sounding like a dumbass in the future
@waddell85 LOL why do the incompetent simple minded slow wit like to call names? Could it be they are just a gullible followers in the Globull warming cult.
And so are you, judging someone on a video you found on youtube.
People have the right to express whatever opinion they have. It's people like you, who believe that the only good opinion is one based on or agreeing with your own beliefs and truths to have any value, that are a pest to the world
Sure it is. It's just not being caused by corporations. Not that the eco-scammers will admit to it, as corporate deep pockets and the global tax base are their eternal targets.
We need international laws against fraud to protect us from these crooks.
Are you suggesting that corporations can do no wrong, that because they make lots of money it absolves them of any responsibility or blame? What a world you live in if you think sainthood comes with the seat around the boardroom table. I think I'll become a venture capitalist. People might mistake me for the real Jesus Christ.
Nope. But I am declaring that eco-scammers go after corporations because of their own profit motives. I also claim that most of the anti-corporate nonsense I've heard from the eco-crooks depends on the same sort of hyperbole you so well demonstrate in your last post.
And what profit am I after? I'm just an average working-class person who learned about the dangers of CO2 long before the 'Convenient Truth.' gravy train began.
I don't want to tax you. Hell, I'm not overly fond of tax myself. But I'm very fond of my children. And what I know about climate change far precedes any of this current scaremongering from your side about global economic disaster. If you want that then just give Fanny and Freddy a call.
Secondly, even though - as yet - we are nowhere near that level, the CO2 levels are increasing. FACT. Not scientific illiteracy - FACT.
Thirdly. We are chopping down RF at an incredible rate. RF takes in CO2, breathes out O2. Tell me, what will give us the O2 once we've made a trillion coffee tables out of the RF?
@TheElasticJesus Why are we cutting RF because the Gullible Gaia cult has shut down a lot of the logging in America. If your track all the jobs lost by the eco nazi in this country you would understand why the unemployment is so high.
He's not saying that we should screw over the public for our own personal advantage. It's socialists that come up with such genius scams. The rest of us, especially the business people, are busily at work trying to solve the world's problems - because that's what consumers pay them for.
You have to get over that crazy Left fascism of yours. It's making you look nuts.
You were the one who started it by accusing me of using hyperbole. I can be as amiable or as arrogant as you like.
Hardwoods absorb more CO2 than Boreal. A swiss sized area of RF is disappearing every year. Now, since businessmen are paid to work out the world's problems perhaps they can work out how long before every hardwood disappears and leaves a massive hole in the O2 supply.
You mean I started" it by taking offense at your insults. As for the "amicable" bit, I suspect you save that exclusively for confederates.
The continents of Europe, Asia and North America were successfully cultivated without exhausting the oxygen supply. The same will certainly be true when Brazil manages to fully develop and cultivate their lands. Would that the same could be properly managed in Africa, where starvation is a real problem.
You're telling me that a change in the atmosphere in the range of 0.01-0.03%, of a gas that trees respirate, is bad for the environment. When I prove skeptical, you become personally abusive. And you're getting on my case for not treating you right?
A 0.01% change in the oxygen content of the environment would not even be noticable. Andf O2 levels are not declining - but more people are being fed from developed land in Brazil.
Global CO2 levels have risen from an average of 280 to about 380 ppm during the last century or so. This amounts to an increase of about 100 ppm of CO2 in the atmosphere, or a ratio of 100/1000000 = 1/10000 corresponding to 0.01% of the atmosphere.
I am to accept that the global climate is headed for catastrophe due to a 0.01% change in atmospheric content. Meanwhile, the purveyors of the theory aren't even clear about what they're selling - sufficiently so, that they are unsure on the math.
I apologise. I misconstrued your intent. I thought you were referring to ratio /percentage RF intake/'outtake.
Regarding your question about accepting whether a 0.01% could change the climate. The answer is it already has, and will get worse the higher that percentage grows. Our human bodies contain many elements in trace amounts. But I wouldn't recommend overdosing on any of them.
Let's agree on one thing - neither of us want to see the climate of the world ruined. If the science behind AGW were definitive or even credible, there wouldn't be so much resistance to policies promoting CO2 reduction. But the environmentalists have a very bad record of Chicken Little predictions that now span several decades (remember the "global cooling" crowd of the 1980s?), so it shouldn't be a shock that there's so much skepticism about this latest "crisis".
I cant speak for Al Gore & whatever political wheels are turning behind the scenes. All I can say is there are definite facts that cannot be disputed. 1. Cars & industry pump out CO2 2. Co2 levels are rising. 3. RF is being cut down at an alarming rate.
My own standpoint in this is not one of taxation. If the goods in the shop are faulty dont punish the people buying them, punish the people who made them.
Equally, I dont want government heavies (Rep or Dem) breathing down the neck of Kid Wunderkind who has just invented the 'supercar.' Capitalism is supposed to reward ingenuity. Not kill it dead because it upsets a competitor.
You know what? You've been civil, and gave me a video to watch. So let me see what you have to say.
If the environment does get screwed up, rich and poor alike will suffer for it. I don't think anyone wants that. So lets see what kind of case you have to make.
Fair enough. But I don't think there is an analogy between mercury poisoning in humans and CO2 in the atmosphere. Nor, given what I've heard from Climategate, am I secure about the data results that are collected.
And because cars & industry continue to pump out CO2 it seems a pretty logical conclusion to say CO2 will continue to rise. I'll leave the scientists to argue about amount & speed.
RE: Climategate let me refer you to this - watch?v=7nnVQ2fROOg. A snippet of media without the bias.
@TheElasticJesus You really have trouble with research and understanding reality don't you. But your in a Cult so I can see you have little brain power to use on a subject of reality. Just poor misinformed child with no education on real world life. Yep the Greenies closed off logging in the US and forest fires skyrocket. Not hard to find the truth if you open your mind. But cult followers can think for themselves.
@DrCruel Trust me, life in the non-profit world is not lucrative. If you go to law school or grad school it's way more financial beneficial to work for a corporation than an environmental organization or a government agency. Unlike most fields, people aren't in it for the money.
Again, no one is denieying climate change, ANTOPOGENIC climate change is the lie.
So, freedom means that only YOUR opinion is allowed to be voiced?
I see, your comment about being smallminded is insulting aswell, so that wouldn't be allowed either then, right?
Either everything goes, or nothing at all. A society based on bashing opinions they're afraid of, already exists, it's called fundamentalism and to some extend communism. I can see why you're such a fan of the AGW theory
AGW theory is absurd. Carbon dioxide is just .038 percent of our atmosphere and human industry produces less than 10 percent of that. Did humans cause previous ice ages and tropical epochs?
Wait a minute. So you are saying the amount of something is always proportional to its effect? That's like saying a 1000 mice are heavier than one elephant, because after all it is only one elephant. It is completely evident that you don't understant the basic physics behind the greenhouse effect at all. That's too bad, because if you did you might be willing to encourage your local politician to address the most serious threat to human civilization that has ever existed.
Australia's top science body [CSIRO & BOM] said on Monday temperatures had risen about 0.7 degrees Celsius (0.44 Fahrenheit) in the last 50 years... "significant evidence" of climate change.
"all of Australia has experienced warming over the last 50 years"
We know that our CO2 has never risen so quickly. We are now starting to see CO2 and methane in the atmosphere at levels that we just haven't seen for the past 800,000 years, possibly even 20 million years," Clark said.
Do you happen to know that it is very easy to prepare a whole set of faked emails ? Hacking into any computer does not constitute a proof. Who said that and can he prove it ? Any good IT person can track your IP address, copy your emails, recover your headers and footers and write emails looking like you. May I suggest caution here before jumping to conclusions.
This is what yiu say, give a link which can validate your statement and do not show me the one from those conservative extremists of Fox News. I want to read names of official University people stating with links and so on.
It is not enough that state that, you have to prove it.
I have been through several journals and also the East Anglia University communication webiste and I have found no evidence of them recognizing the emails from them.
This is a pointless discussion, the investigation is already going on, they admitted that the mails were real, but that they were misinterpreted. If you took 2 minutes to type this into google and look at some links, you would have found this already.
True, but there is much more info in them, wich is currently being investigated. And please, don't believe everything you read in newspapers, they aren't there to keep you informed, they're there to earn money and get you to buy them
Give us your links which prove that these researchers are admitting the emails being theirs. I can see that you cannot do that. This means that you cannot back up your statements.
Governments are not just there to collect taxes and fill their Jersy Island accounts.
The interests groups in Bruxelles do want us to comsume a lot of petrol and cars so the Climate Change pros are against them. With their lobbys, then can twist everything which explains why nothing is really done to stop climate change.
I can understand English, eventhough it's not my native language, but when you butcher it like this it's elegible to me.
Governements are corrupt and will always be so.
It's human nature, give someone power and they'll abuse it. That's just a fact, so why would governements (wich consist of people FYI) be any different?
If you where given a large amount of money to spend on building something and you could chose between giving the contract to a good friend or a stranger, wouldn't you atleast be tempted to tell your friend, of the record, the offer of the other company so (s)he could offer a bit lower and get the contract?
Explain why the earth's warming has become insignificant since 1995 (Dr Jones of CRU) and yet the amount of co2 pumped into the air has only gotten larger? If they where related, shouldn't we see a drastic increase in temps as well?
A basic laboratory experiment shows that CO2 is a green house gas, and thats lucky cause it had been extremely cold on earth if not. Increasing this amount is not wise as it melts Siberian tundras releasing even more CO2 and methane. Soon we can discuss this how much we want as it will have gotten out of our hands.
But the amount of co2 in the air has not increased since the 1850's. tinyurl com/ygjeacm
This just proves that there is another source for the warming and it's that big orb you see when you look up in to the sky, atleast when there aren't too many clouds covering it up
Read the link you are referring to yourself. It does not say the level of atmospheric Co2 is constant. It says the the proportions between absorbed co2 and co2 increase is constant. Thats good news as long as it lasts.
That will be difficult as it hasn't , the temp keeps climbing in spite of all gate hysteria.
Thermal inerta from the oceans will cause some delay between our emissions and the full temp increase but such details i do not think that you are especially interested of.
From what I've read on many of these posts, it appears that a large majority of folks who think the Climate Crisis is a hoax focus on their concern that it is an effort towards a government take over. So, my question is this; Is the concern about a government take over so important that it does not matter to people whether there really is a Climate Crisis or not?
There is no climate crisis, this was a theory by some scientists, governements saw the potential of getting a good deal of money out of it and jumped on the bandwagon blowing it out of proportion, and that's all that's going on
Anarch whatever - I'd just like to join with my fellows & tell you to stop smoking multi-dimensional weed. Here is a tap. Here is a bucket. Here is a sponge. Pour water into bucket and use sponge to sponge out water before bucket fills. The following year try it with half a sponge. The following year - half again. See where I'm going with this? No of course you dont. Leave the science to reputable scientists.
Ana-whatever is just an idiot... I spent some time with him but it keeps getting more ridiculous... now we have heat traveling at convenient speeds to match fantasy he is exhasperatingly stupid and to add to the humor, he has friends giving him the thumbs up....
Heh heh heh with friends like that, who needs enemas?
Yeah, completely ignore my solid arguments and try to cover up your fail. That's what you've been doing since the start and that's what you'll be doing when you die
Hungarian Physicist Dr. Ferenc Miskolczi proves CO2 emissions irrelevant in Earths Climate (January 12, 7:34 AM Examiner Dianna Cotter)
Dr. Zagoni explains: Since the Earths atmosphere is not lacking in greenhouse gases [water vapor], if the system could have increased its surface temperature it would have done so long before our emissions. It need not have waited for us to add CO2: another greenhouse gas, H2O,was already to hand in practically unlimited reservoirs in the oceans.
"Dr. Zagoni explains: Since the Earths atmosphere is not lacking in greenhouse gases [water vapor], if the..." judomagyer... rubbish!
His paper is presented as a physics-based theoretical analysis. It is based on three fundamental errors: a. Kirchhoffs Law, which is completely mis-stated. KL says that emissivity equals absorptivity. Miskolczi simply assumes the emittances and absorbances can be equated.
b. The Virial Theorem. People who know about this scratch their heads here, because it is a principle which can be important in stars, but applied to Earth just describes the hydrostatic balance of the atmosphere.
c. He has two equations which describe the result of applying conservation of energy to the Earth and the atmosphere, In an earlier version he sought to invoke conservation of momentum instead - a different principle, and very strange in the context.
"I actually sent the author an email the other day asking that very question - how does he go from KE = PE/2 to Eu = Su/2? His response so far was not very clear, and included the word "guess" which left me a little concerned."-Apsmith
Needless to say Miskolczi's paper wasn't peer accepted
"According to the Kirchhoff law, two systems in thermal equilibrium exchange energy by absorption and emission in equal amounts, therefore, the thermal energy of either system can not be changed."-Miskolczi
well no,
"Kirchoffs Law states that the emissivity of a substance at any given frequency equals the absorptivity measured at the same frequency...."-Pierrehumbert
The absorption will depend on the incident radiation, and the emission will depend on the temperature ie: Different frequencies
" Where do you want the co2 measured? In water, a greenhouse, open air?" theanarchanon
Gotcha you fucking idiot!
I'll put you out of your misery... I provided links etc and you post this you complete and utter moron!
One of the main ways to measure CO2 is to measure is to measure carbonic acid
"Carbonic acid (ancient name acid of air or aerial acid) has the formula H2CO3. It is also a name sometimes given to solutions of carbon dioxide in water, ..." it can be done to atomic accuracy!
There are much easier ways ( there are even machines you can use to do it)
And you still haven't proven that co2 is causing the warming. You post articles about co2 rising, but that doesn't prove it causes the earth warming at all.
And I have posted dozens of links, you retard. Here's some more:
No, retard. I said we can't measure co2 IN THE PAST, we can make estimates as to how much was in the air then, but it's not very accurate.
No, What I'm saying is that earth has stopped warming since 2001, Mars was still warming in 2005, there is more to warming caused by the sun then just those factors. Different planetary factors are also in effect, but since there is no manmade co2 on mars, why was the warming almost the same?
"No, retard. I said we can't measure co2 IN THE PAST"-Anarch
This means you don't understand how CO2 is measured IN THE PRESENT... by it's dissolving in water... the difference in ice cores is merely they are frozen in time. You've come at me with a partial pressure study on Co2 using isotopes to show there is an anomaly of CO2 fraction but not actual CO2 then you come up with this shit.
Sadly this conversation has descended into farce.
You don't even have a school kid's foundation in science
Dude, really, there is way more to it then just measuring co2.
And the solar system is heating up, prove otherwise.
Mars is made out of almost nothing but dust, earth has oceans absorbing heat. Seems like Mars would take longer to cooldown and is faster to warm up, or am I going to fast for your puny brain?
This stopped being an intelligent discussion as soon as you said AGW is real, bozo
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bernzeppi 1 year ago
Just when you thought that Sarah Palin had destroyed the dumb blonde myth....
Sorry, ClimateGate was a tempest in a teapot based on a couple of out-of-context e-mails and misunderstood scientific jargon. Because of the ClimateGate claims, the CRU has been investigated - and cleared.
Swing and a miss.
Shanbo26 1 year ago
@Shanbo26 Thumbs up Shanbo.
Sadly she's put the video on 'private only'... should have happened the moment she thought of it.... an uneducated loudmouth...
Classic example of a YT loony!
She's after Obama now.... oh noooooooo!
bernzeppi 1 year ago
@bernzeppi Yeah, now she's only going to be preaching to the converted - reallllyyyy smart.
Shanbo26 1 year ago
Phil Jones' CRU has been investigated by:
1. The House of Commons' Science and Technology Select Committee
and
2. An international panel of academics set up by the University of East Anglia.
The findings of both inquiries are now in. Here they are:
1. ww w.publications.parliament.u k/pa/cm200910/cmselect/cmsctech/387/387i.p d f
2. w ww.uea.a c.u k/mac/comm/media/press/CRUstatements/Report+of+the+Science+Assessment+Panel
He and the CRU were exonerated by both inquiries.
Get over it.
cristop5 1 year ago
"Uhhh... YEAH.... conspiracies exist!"
Uhhh.... yeah.
Climategate nuts are like 9/11 truthers. Suddenly everyone's an engineering expert because the government is, like, hiding something
barryschwarz 1 year ago
There is no climate gate. You can find the latest news on uk.news.yahoo under no-deliberate-malpractice-in-climate Now lets put the people who illegaly entered these websites to be put in jail since this is a crime.
laurentien00 1 year ago
@laurentien00 lol by a chairman who clearly has a conflict of interest.
shoust 1 year ago 2
4. While 95 per cent of the CRU data have been publicly available for years and some of the remainder is subject to confidentiality agreements with overseas organisations, the report did find that CRU scientists had refused to hand over their data to climate "sceptics" and the University may have breached the Freedom of Information Act.
"The lion that squeaked" was the title of the article
I prefer "the pigs that squealed"
Insult to pigs though
bernzeppi 1 year ago
2. The results and conclusions of CRU research have been independent verified by other methodologies and other sources of data. The Unit's analyses "have been repeated and the conclusions have been verified".
3. There is no evidence to suggest that Professor Jones was trying to subvert the peer review process.
bernzeppi 1 year ago
Here ya go squealers, the results of the investigation into climategate:
1. There was nothing untoward behind the "trick" used to "hide the decline" in the temperature record. The phrases were colloquial terms without any sinister implications. The Committee found that the "evidence patently fails to support" the claim that these words reveal a conspiracy to hide evidence that does not fit with global warming, and that CRU Director Professor Phil Jones has "no case to answer".
bernzeppi 1 year ago
bernzeppi , Certainly you must be the Wise One and your manerism toward women is just impecable! For all your insults you have been making yourself look ignorant! If you believe there is a differance between one party or the other, This president or that one I feel bad for you. Maybe Global Warming is true and you should run and hide underground, Or check in with binladin and see if he has room in the cave! You two can become friends while you wait out the"CRISIS!" Together!
shazizz 1 year ago
@shazizz
My mannerism is just as poor towards deliberate male ignoramuses as it is towards deliberate female ignoramuses... so don't go thinking you get special treatment.
(BTW you spelt 'mannerism', 'impeccable' and 'difference' wrong... for christ's sake you've got spellcheck! Also 'binladin' needs a capital. Not the sharpest knife in the draw are ya?)
It's interesting how 'climategate' in your mind brings up 'binladin'... odd connection... due to low neuronal density, or poor upbringing?
bernzeppi 1 year ago
@bernzeppi Regardless of punctuation and a few mis-spelled words the message speaks for itself, You have no respect for others and even less for yourself! Your immature attitude speaks volumes about your character. Forget The Global Warming fraud the greatist danger we face as a society is people such as yourself! You degrade yourself and you arguement by your childesh actions. Have fun getting no where in life acting like ignorance is your only tool!
shazizz 1 year ago
@shazizz
You have a right to your own opinion but not a right to your own facts.
You clearly did not read the 'decline' email, I did. You debase yourself by simply lying about it.
"the greatist danger we face as a society is people such as yourself" Er, it's 'greatest' not 'greatist'
Hint when youtube underlines your words with red lines it means it is spelt wrong
I look forward to you actually making a positive contribution to humanity one day after you get skoolin', but I won't hold my breath
bernzeppi 1 year ago
@bernzeppi What are you talking about? Lying about what? You wouldn't know facts if they hit you in the face! Here is a fact people like you just can't get a grip on reality!
The sky is falling run and hide! You crack me up!
shazizz 1 year ago
@shazizz Wow! You discovered spell check.
bernzeppi 1 year ago
@bernzeppi Thank You english teacher! Do I get a good grade?
shazizz 1 year ago
@bernzeppi Global Warming/Climate Change Greatest scam in history!
31,478 American scientists, including 9,021 with PhDs who have signed a petition stating that Global Warming is a farce:
Global Warming Is a Religion Manmade global warming, for many, is an Earth-worshipping religion
'Climate Deniers' May Face Prosecution
Like all destructive cult in history this one is at the top for wanting mass genocide.
BruceH59 1 year ago
@BruceH59 Yeah, the OISM petition. It was shown to be a farce. It included such names as Ginger Spice and Michael J. Fox, and included dentists and nutritionists as "scientists".
It was also shipped along with a anti-GW newspaper editorial disguised as an official National Academy of Sciences publication.
Shanbo26 1 year ago
@Shanbo26 I guess we should just trust the corrupt liars that wanted to fire editors that won't preach the corrupt peer review slanted lies of Globull warming. You know like the liars that said Polar bears are endangered or the liar about the Himalaya glacier or never mind after so many exposed lies I can't believe anyone is gullible enough to fall for this farce.
BruceH59 1 year ago
@BruceH59
Yeh, PhDs in toilet cleaning!
The petition asks you to pass it on to friends, and the list is not verified... sounds like the Afghani elections to me!
You're just parroting your unreliable (bought by big coal) friends again.
... along with smoking/cancer, flouride/health, you'd be a holocaust denier too eh?
You'll be burning books soon... especially if they are written by scientists.
You live in a wonderful country, too bad your ignorant paranoid delusion is eroding it away.
bernzeppi 1 year ago
@bernzeppi You know looking at your You tube channel was sad at what a loser in life you truly are. 12 friends after 3 years what a pathetic loser you truly are. Indeed you are just a lonely scum bag with nothing better to do with your useless life but spread hate on the internet. Looking at your comment section proved you have no clue how to deal with people. A lonely loser in life with no friends Nothing but a miserable low life spreading your misery across YT that is sad and Pathetic.
BruceH59 1 year ago
@BruceH59 So... are you a holocaust denier?
bernzeppi 1 year ago
@bernzeppi You are one whack out crazy lonely loser you know it. You are so far out in space you have no clue about anything.
BruceH59 1 year ago
@BruceH59
Now I have to tell you... it sounds very much like you ARE a holocaust denier... certainly from your avoidance behavior to that question FOXnews (any news actually) will have you pegged as a holocaust denier
"Rush Limbaugh, we have a wriggler!"
Also I presume you think smoking doesn't cause cancer, fluoride is mind control poison, AIDS is not caused by a HIV and sedition is favorably implied in the bill of rights....
tell me I'm wrong on all counts... I really hope I am!
bernzeppi 1 year ago
@shazizz Please, you write like an eight year old. What right does an uneducated lout like you have to accuse other people of ignorance?
Shanbo26 1 year ago
So you have a couple comments taken out of connect or mis understood bye ppl looking for justification of there own point of view rather then look at it objectively.
The only thing thats in those emails is that tree-rings are inaccurate, which is why there suggesting not using them any more. Is one out of many measuring tools becomes inaccurate does that mean that 1: something changed and it shouldn't be used any more. 2: that it never was accurate 3: all the sensors are wrong?
liesandtricks 1 year ago
Bonn or bust The UNs last, desperate bid for unelected world government
There are a few true-believers left among the national delegates, but more of them than before are open to discussion of the previously-forbidden question what if the climate extremists have made the whole thing up?
The answer to that question is Yes they are all exposed fraudster and now the whole world knows it for a fact. LOL The weasel lost this round.
BruceH59 1 year ago
@BruceH59
Bruce! Nice to hear from you, you 50 year old schoolgirl chasin', fishin', huntin dumb ass!
Cops haven't caught up with you yet?
Keep the tinfoil on your fruitcake head... the transmission won't give you away
Run Run... Jesus got a six gun!
OK I stole that line from one of your most creative countrymen 'The Old Crow Medicine Show'
Lets say it together...
Dumb-ass
dumb-ass
dumb-ass
bernzeppi 1 year ago
@bernzeppi Well how is the Eco Nazi still killing people in your country cause their in your way. What a hyprocrite.
Hey Fruitcake you still on the flat earther Globull warming side. New book all about you KOOKS
Brilliantly Exposing Climategate
The most difficult thing to comprehend about the environmental movement is its fundamental hatred of mankind
You just proved that Kook you got your green tin foil hat on. LOL
BruceH59 1 year ago
@BruceH59
Yep daily I get mah gun and kill anyone who even smells like a denier... if ah cood onley get a gun!
Thems is illegal here!
That is where merica is superior.... I could get gun there!
Ahhh sooo wan't a gun!
I guess I'll jes hafta spend mah spare money on international travel, education, technology, good food'n'wine, music, and women (of appropriate age) etc
Tough job, but someone's gotta do it
bernzeppi 1 year ago
@bernzeppi Environmentalism is a spawn of communism. The book will help you make the connection between the millions who died under the regimes that embraced it and the tsunami of lies that maintains environmentalism to this day.
Fat, Drunk and stupid is no way to go through life loser sorry the whole world caught on to Globull warming scam it over so do everyone a favor and remove yourself from the gene pool to save the planet nutcase.
BruceH59 1 year ago
@bernzeppi It is no accident that Earth Day, April 22, is also the birth date of Vladimir Lenin, the Marxist who led the Russian revolution that led to the establishment of communism in 1917.
So you are worshipping a Communist because you are too gullible to think without someone telling you to hate mankind like a good gullible Eco Communist. LOL
BruceH59 1 year ago
@BruceH59
fuck man! Get a gun get a gun!
You still stalkin' those schoolgirls on youtube?
Stick to fishin' video's
bernzeppi 1 year ago
@bernzeppi You must be drunk again. Think your funny in Eco Nazi suit. Are you designing the eco nazi Brown shirts. LOL that is about your slow speed.
Get off YT when your drunk you just make a fool out of yourself. Or I should say a bigger fool then normal.
You should stick with talking to the walls so you can get something to agree with your Eco nazi thoughts.
BruceH59 1 year ago
@BruceH59 I don't find the walls nearly as intelligent as you
bernzeppi 1 year ago
@bernzeppi One thing I learn about the Gaia Cult is that after then have been exposed as a fraud and lie after lie after lie after lie about Globull warming. There Cult followers that are simpleminded drunk easy to fool gullible shallow people well then attack anyone that reminds them at what a loser they are in life. Sorry you are all alone and drunk half the time. Find a new cult to join gullible one.
BruceH59 1 year ago
@BruceH59 Oh... my... god!
I just heard your radio show.... yee har!
You are THE mountain retard that the rest of your countrymen take the piss out of!
You really DO need dueling banjoes as your opening theme.
Reminds me of the Red Green Show from Canada... only that was MEANT to be funny!
But there is not a hint of irony behind the BruceH show... you are the real rinky-dink-inbred deal arn'tcha?
Keep up the rapid repartee, your a machine-gun!... well a shot gun... er would you believe a musket?
bernzeppi 1 year ago
@bernzeppi Talking to the spoiled brats of Gaia Cult.
Globull warming is exposed fraud- Cult members reply-Who cares about facts
Al Bore film was found to have 10 major lies in it> Who cares about lies
Polar Bears are NOT endangered- Who cares about reality
Himalaya glacier is not going to melt away- Who cares about truth
The ocean is not rising- Who cares about science. This is a cult you either agree with us or we will lock you up we are the spoiled brats of the Gaia Cult. LOL
BruceH59 1 year ago
@BruceH59
You are wrong on all fronts... To make it a complete set would you like to add "the arctic will never be ice free in summer"?
bernzeppi 1 year ago
@bernzeppi I figure you would listen that is why I brought up all the facts about the Eco nuts working with the Communism and Hitler. It is proven fact. Only loser with no brain believe anything Hitler and Lennin say. But you just anohter brain dead gullible communist thanks for proving it once again. Not drunk tonight. You really should go find a woman to spend your time with instead of acting like the fool you truly are on Youtube.
BruceH59 1 year ago
@BruceH59 ... gawd you make me laugh you big ole wrinkly hick!
I can't help but think your diatribe is more than a little bit projection.
You do know 'The Red Green Show' don'tcha?
One of the best shows ever made... here's a few episodes
watch?v=yJJrjDI5xSQ&feature=related
watch?v=w4D6cHLRLUk
I could see you doing something like this... the trick is NOT to treat it as a documentary... I'd even watch it
I'm gonna start my Nazi Nitting Klub...
Ohhh ya gotta laugh
bernzeppi 1 year ago
I like you! Your smart,pretty and well spoken! Keep up the good work!
shazizz 1 year ago
bernzeppi 1 year ago
Who ever claimed there were "no conspiracies"? What I and many others have a problem with are UNSUBSTANTIATED conspiracy claims, such as this bullshit-mongering over "climategate." Lol. Giving it such a stupid fucking name just b/c of a few emails that Fox News and the right think "prove" that all climate scientists everywhere who say AGW exists are all just "fudging the data." I'm sorry, but a conspiracy on the scale and magnitude which you claim is impossible.
whoo689 1 year ago
@whoo689 Folks like you are saying that EVERY scientist who's not a total skeptic and believes based on his own research that AGW is real is just lying and wants more money and gov't control, but you have ZERO proof that this goes on. You have yet to uncover any big bribery scandals where a liberal scientist, for example, pays off the peer-review journal editor to publish a bunch of false articles, or anything like that. I'm not saying skeptics don't have a case, but there's no conspiracy.
whoo689 1 year ago
@whoo689 Why do all you Gaia cult fruitcakes always spam comments. Could it be you hate being exposed as gullible shallow people that believe the fraud Al Gore. LOL
Globull warming is exposed fraud so find something else to cry about you losers.
BruceH59 1 year ago
@whoo689 Yep mate they'll believe anything on YT
I think the problem is the uneducated need to feel vindicated... that's why FOXnews works.
Same kind of mentality that denies the lunar landing... hell, 400,000 people worked on the Apollo project... and it's easy to track em down... but there are still plenty of 20 year olds who cannot believe it... well, they weren't there were they?
BTW BruceH59 is a few cents short of a dollar
bernzeppi 1 year ago
@bernzeppi BTW you are drunk loser that joined the arrogant Communism Gaia Cult but being that you only half a brain cell working you fail in research to read the Eco nutcase only care about command and control of people not saving the planet. That is why gullible loser like you fall for it. So let see how many lies have been exposed on the Globull warming fraud it has been so many I lost count. Keep preaching your shallow simple cult view Globull warming is real. LOL
BruceH59 1 year ago
@BruceH59 hey this guy is taking the piss out of your fishin' video's
watch?v=JJ9yydrnBWI&feature=related
they say it's the best show ever made
watch?v=wL8xOXYAE0w&feature=related
and one on huntin'
watch?v=DU3Iru0XoLM&feature=related
I'm sure your version of this show would be more informative, safer albeit less entertaining
bernzeppi 1 year ago
@BruceH59
More huntin' an' fishin' video's... bruce they stole your idea!
How to mount a tv antenna?
watch?v=wL8xOXYAE0w&feature=related
a huntin video
watch?v=DU3Iru0XoLM&feature=related
If you worked on your humor you could be this famous!
Gun safety is very important
bernzeppi 1 year ago
@whoo689 You can't just say "It's a conspiracy" without actual proof to back it up. What everyone on the Right is going after are a tiny percentage of the emails that are "revealing." But when you do a little more research, you realize they're not all that abnormal. How does "hide the decline" automatically mean "Fudging data"? It seems you're not that well-versed in scientific jargon. Or the email about the travesty. He was simply expressing frustration, not revealing that he was lying.
whoo689 1 year ago
@whoo689 We trust loser that had 30 years to come up with a soltuion and the only one they came up with is taxing everyone to death. What a bunch of clowns.
BruceH59 1 year ago
@whoo689 You guys usually look at 3 or 4 emails out of 1000s in the list of hacked ones and claim that somehow proves your case. But 3 out of 1,000 is not even CLOSE to 1%.
whoo689 1 year ago
There's nothing 'sceptical' about believing this climategate slander. If you look actually into those emails you'll see that the whole thing has been pulled way out of context.
BaileysBeads 1 year ago
when you talk about climate can you talk about physics not about money. climate obey physics law, not economic laws. get it? don't mix those two.
asrlabs 1 year ago
The global warming cultists attempted to re-brand by avoiding the term global warming and saying their agenda was to deal with climate change. Not just any climate change of course but sudden climate change, again the fault of humans, again requiring taxes and obedience to a global authority to solve.
We kniow everyone was laughing at the cult about Globull warming so they had to change the name to cover up the lie. Hahaha
BruceH59 1 year ago
@BruceH59
Remember the warnings when all the CATS were fitted in the 70s. ' Dioxide might end up being a bigger problem than monoxide.' ?cont...
Funny how no one moaned back then. They only moaned in the late eighties when Exxon & Koch realised the implications. Hence the Murdoch run, Fox News anti AGW roadshow.
TheElasticJesus 1 year ago
All this crap about "carbon" and "global warming" humans polluting the air etc. WHY DON'T THEY JUST STOP CUTTING DOWN THE RAIN FORESTS? No-one ever suggest that, do they! Peace
Deathtime88 1 year ago
*****COPY AND PASTE TO ALL "CLIMATE GATE" VIDEOS****
ummmmm... The British House of commons investigated "Climate Gate" and they found that "no one misrepresented any data". They also found that "Global Warming is happening and it is induced by Human Activity" (New York Times). Are we gonna see Fox News or the people who made this video apologize? I think not.
Willjk89 1 year ago 2
Arctic ice recovers from the great melt
The Sunday Times April 4, 2010
Gaia cult says it is rotten ice LOL
Coldest winter in decades Gaia cult says that just weather not climate. LOL
The exposed hoax the flat earther that hate cars and electricity with 3 decades their only useless soltuion was tax everyone to death. I hope the anti science corrupt peer review is toss in the trash can. No more public money for corrput peer review liars.
BruceH59 1 year ago
NO THE POINT IS THIS -
Once upon a time there was doctor who promised to save the lives of my grandchildren. He was an honest man, didn't work for any commercial enterprise, and said all they had to do was stop eating certain sweets.
But then appeared a man who worked for the sweet company. He denounced the doctor. Called him a liar in public. The doctor was shamed. The salesman made lots of money. My grandkids carried on eating the sweets. AND THEY DIED.
TheElasticJesus 1 year ago
This has been flagged as spam show
Al Gore's group? At a university in England? What an amerocentirc view of reality.
adhocbc 1 year ago
Al Gore's group? At a University in England? What a amerocentirc view of reality.
adhocbc 1 year ago
Arctic Sea Ice about to hit normal what will the news say? Forecasting The NSIDC News
GloBull Warming cult members Freeze to death in Antarctic
I know the weather is not Climate more ice equal less Polar bears. LOL
What well the gullible Gaia cult cry about now.
LOL Who cares if the weather is colder this is about Climate LOL what gullible fools to believe this exposed hoax.
BruceH59 1 year ago
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@BruceH59 "GloBull Warming cult members Freeze to death in Antarctic" That's a hoax. Try looking it up on sites like Snopes.
rsmith02 1 year ago
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@BruceH59 "GloBull Warming cult members Freeze to death in Antarctic" That's a hoax. Try looking it up on sites like Snopes.
rsmith02 1 year ago
Too bad this exposed fraud has so many cult followers that can't think or notice the truth. That Gaia Cult is a fraud. LOL
BruceH59 1 year ago
WOW, she can read, it is unfortunate that she can't think for herself...this is a good example of a follower and not a leader, please learn the literature before opening your mouth, this prevent you from sounding like a dumbass in the future
waddell85 1 year ago
@waddell85 LOL why do the incompetent simple minded slow wit like to call names? Could it be they are just a gullible followers in the Globull warming cult.
BruceH59 1 year ago
please stop. you read some article you dug up and then spout your ignorant opinion in agreement, not really even knowing what you're talking about.
if you do this sort of thing regularly, you should probably stop; you are making a fool of yourself for the world to see.
THEinterrobang 1 year ago
And so are you, judging someone on a video you found on youtube.
People have the right to express whatever opinion they have. It's people like you, who believe that the only good opinion is one based on or agreeing with your own beliefs and truths to have any value, that are a pest to the world
TheAnarchanon 1 year ago
@TheAnarchanon
Does that include racism? Xenophobia? Homophobia?
Opinion is one thing, fact another.
Sorry, freedom does NOT allow small minded opinionaters to talk over FACT.
Global warming is happening. Get over it.
TheElasticJesus 1 year ago
Sure it is. It's just not being caused by corporations. Not that the eco-scammers will admit to it, as corporate deep pockets and the global tax base are their eternal targets.
We need international laws against fraud to protect us from these crooks.
DrCruel 1 year ago
@DrCruel
Are you suggesting that corporations can do no wrong, that because they make lots of money it absolves them of any responsibility or blame? What a world you live in if you think sainthood comes with the seat around the boardroom table. I think I'll become a venture capitalist. People might mistake me for the real Jesus Christ.
TheElasticJesus 1 year ago
Nope. But I am declaring that eco-scammers go after corporations because of their own profit motives. I also claim that most of the anti-corporate nonsense I've heard from the eco-crooks depends on the same sort of hyperbole you so well demonstrate in your last post.
DrCruel 1 year ago
@DrCruel
And what profit am I after? I'm just an average working-class person who learned about the dangers of CO2 long before the 'Convenient Truth.' gravy train began.
I don't want to tax you. Hell, I'm not overly fond of tax myself. But I'm very fond of my children. And what I know about climate change far precedes any of this current scaremongering from your side about global economic disaster. If you want that then just give Fanny and Freddy a call.
TheElasticJesus 1 year ago
I don't know. Maybe you're just not scientifically literate. Maybe that's why you think CO2 is a "dangerous" gas that's out to get your kids.
I can only imagine what might happen if you find out about the "dangers" of dihydrogen monoxide. Could you survive the experience?
DrCruel 1 year ago
@DrCruel
So, after the hyperbole you respond with sarcasm dressed as intelligence.
Okay. Oxygen keeps you alive. Great in small amounts. But try it intravenous. Try breathing pure O2 for 30 minutes and lets see how good you feel.
Likewise, put a bag over your mouth and breathe in CO2 for 30 minutes.
So firstly, CO2, in large amounts isn't healthy. In fact doctors will tell you the danger limit is around 5000ppm.
cont...
TheElasticJesus 1 year ago
@DrCruel
Secondly, even though - as yet - we are nowhere near that level, the CO2 levels are increasing. FACT. Not scientific illiteracy - FACT.
Thirdly. We are chopping down RF at an incredible rate. RF takes in CO2, breathes out O2. Tell me, what will give us the O2 once we've made a trillion coffee tables out of the RF?
TheElasticJesus 1 year ago
@TheElasticJesus Why are we cutting RF because the Gullible Gaia cult has shut down a lot of the logging in America. If your track all the jobs lost by the eco nazi in this country you would understand why the unemployment is so high.
BruceH59 1 year ago
@BruceH59
Thats capitalism baby. Dont back a losing horse. Move on. Re train. Do something else.
Thats from your beloved Milton Friedman handbook on how to be selfish & fuck the rest.
So basically what youre saying is that YOU MUST cut down Amazonian RF because somebody in the west is feeling sorry for himself?
TheElasticJesus 1 year ago
He's not saying that we should screw over the public for our own personal advantage. It's socialists that come up with such genius scams. The rest of us, especially the business people, are busily at work trying to solve the world's problems - because that's what consumers pay them for.
You have to get over that crazy Left fascism of yours. It's making you look nuts.
DrCruel 1 year ago
@DrCruel
You were the one who started it by accusing me of using hyperbole. I can be as amiable or as arrogant as you like.
Hardwoods absorb more CO2 than Boreal. A swiss sized area of RF is disappearing every year. Now, since businessmen are paid to work out the world's problems perhaps they can work out how long before every hardwood disappears and leaves a massive hole in the O2 supply.
TheElasticJesus 1 year ago
You mean I started" it by taking offense at your insults. As for the "amicable" bit, I suspect you save that exclusively for confederates.
The continents of Europe, Asia and North America were successfully cultivated without exhausting the oxygen supply. The same will certainly be true when Brazil manages to fully develop and cultivate their lands. Would that the same could be properly managed in Africa, where starvation is a real problem.
DrCruel 1 year ago
You're telling me that a change in the atmosphere in the range of 0.01-0.03%, of a gas that trees respirate, is bad for the environment. When I prove skeptical, you become personally abusive. And you're getting on my case for not treating you right?
A 0.01% change in the oxygen content of the environment would not even be noticable. Andf O2 levels are not declining - but more people are being fed from developed land in Brazil.
What are you talking about?
DrCruel 1 year ago
@DrCruel
Your math is deeply flawed.
RF takes in 25% of all CO2. Ocean, algae, phytoplankton, boreal, etc the rest.
If you take 25% out of the equation it does not add up to a 0.01% change in oxygen content.
TheElasticJesus 1 year ago
Global CO2 levels have risen from an average of 280 to about 380 ppm during the last century or so. This amounts to an increase of about 100 ppm of CO2 in the atmosphere, or a ratio of 100/1000000 = 1/10000 corresponding to 0.01% of the atmosphere.
I am to accept that the global climate is headed for catastrophe due to a 0.01% change in atmospheric content. Meanwhile, the purveyors of the theory aren't even clear about what they're selling - sufficiently so, that they are unsure on the math.
DrCruel 1 year ago
@DrCruel
I apologise. I misconstrued your intent. I thought you were referring to ratio /percentage RF intake/'outtake.
Regarding your question about accepting whether a 0.01% could change the climate. The answer is it already has, and will get worse the higher that percentage grows. Our human bodies contain many elements in trace amounts. But I wouldn't recommend overdosing on any of them.
TheElasticJesus 1 year ago
Let's agree on one thing - neither of us want to see the climate of the world ruined. If the science behind AGW were definitive or even credible, there wouldn't be so much resistance to policies promoting CO2 reduction. But the environmentalists have a very bad record of Chicken Little predictions that now span several decades (remember the "global cooling" crowd of the 1980s?), so it shouldn't be a shock that there's so much skepticism about this latest "crisis".
DrCruel 1 year ago
@DrCruel
I cant speak for Al Gore & whatever political wheels are turning behind the scenes. All I can say is there are definite facts that cannot be disputed. 1. Cars & industry pump out CO2 2. Co2 levels are rising. 3. RF is being cut down at an alarming rate.
cont...
TheElasticJesus 1 year ago
@DrCruel
My own standpoint in this is not one of taxation. If the goods in the shop are faulty dont punish the people buying them, punish the people who made them.
Equally, I dont want government heavies (Rep or Dem) breathing down the neck of Kid Wunderkind who has just invented the 'supercar.' Capitalism is supposed to reward ingenuity. Not kill it dead because it upsets a competitor.
TheElasticJesus 1 year ago
You know what? You've been civil, and gave me a video to watch. So let me see what you have to say.
If the environment does get screwed up, rich and poor alike will suffer for it. I don't think anyone wants that. So lets see what kind of case you have to make.
DrCruel 1 year ago
Fair enough. But I don't think there is an analogy between mercury poisoning in humans and CO2 in the atmosphere. Nor, given what I've heard from Climategate, am I secure about the data results that are collected.
DrCruel 1 year ago
@DrCruel
And because cars & industry continue to pump out CO2 it seems a pretty logical conclusion to say CO2 will continue to rise. I'll leave the scientists to argue about amount & speed.
RE: Climategate let me refer you to this - watch?v=7nnVQ2fROOg. A snippet of media without the bias.
TheElasticJesus 1 year ago
@TheElasticJesus You really have trouble with research and understanding reality don't you. But your in a Cult so I can see you have little brain power to use on a subject of reality. Just poor misinformed child with no education on real world life. Yep the Greenies closed off logging in the US and forest fires skyrocket. Not hard to find the truth if you open your mind. But cult followers can think for themselves.
BruceH59 1 year ago
@BruceH59
Okay.
1 Climate change was around way before Al Gore came along
2 Im British so dont involve me in this Rep v Dem slanging match
3 Im neither misinformed nor stupid. I knew these facts 30 years ago & if you're honest with yourself, so did you. cont...
TheElasticJesus 1 year ago
@DrCruel Trust me, life in the non-profit world is not lucrative. If you go to law school or grad school it's way more financial beneficial to work for a corporation than an environmental organization or a government agency. Unlike most fields, people aren't in it for the money.
rsmith02 1 year ago
@TheElasticJesus
Again, no one is denieying climate change, ANTOPOGENIC climate change is the lie.
So, freedom means that only YOUR opinion is allowed to be voiced?
I see, your comment about being smallminded is insulting aswell, so that wouldn't be allowed either then, right?
Either everything goes, or nothing at all. A society based on bashing opinions they're afraid of, already exists, it's called fundamentalism and to some extend communism. I can see why you're such a fan of the AGW theory
TheAnarchanon 1 year ago
AGW theory is absurd. Carbon dioxide is just .038 percent of our atmosphere and human industry produces less than 10 percent of that. Did humans cause previous ice ages and tropical epochs?
Of course not.
AcePilot2009 1 year ago
@AcePilot2009
Wait a minute. So you are saying the amount of something is always proportional to its effect? That's like saying a 1000 mice are heavier than one elephant, because after all it is only one elephant. It is completely evident that you don't understant the basic physics behind the greenhouse effect at all. That's too bad, because if you did you might be willing to encourage your local politician to address the most serious threat to human civilization that has ever existed.
adhocbc 1 year ago
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Australia's top science body [CSIRO & BOM] said on Monday temperatures had risen about 0.7 degrees Celsius (0.44 Fahrenheit) in the last 50 years... "significant evidence" of climate change.
"all of Australia has experienced warming over the last 50 years"
We know that our CO2 has never risen so quickly. We are now starting to see CO2 and methane in the atmosphere at levels that we just haven't seen for the past 800,000 years, possibly even 20 million years," Clark said.
AFP- 3hrs ago
bernzeppi 2 years ago
NZ Musician Trillion and his friends on Youtube Make some great music about "Conspiracy" truths and life. latest is:
"The Climate Gated community"
watch?v=A3m9aCKDVjA 2nd Part (the song)
Well worth the time and a great way to share with others. Check out his Chemtrail, Vax, and food additive songs and others also.
ProsperiaFan 2 years ago
Another great vid CV. Does anyone else share the knowledge that the world ends on 22/12/2012 as opposed to 21/12/2012 as widely advertised?
harryrarmer 2 years ago
No, the world will end on 2029 when we get hit by an asteroid coming our way if we do not get reached by planet-X.
laurentien00 2 years ago
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Do you happen to know that it is very easy to prepare a whole set of faked emails ? Hacking into any computer does not constitute a proof. Who said that and can he prove it ? Any good IT person can track your IP address, copy your emails, recover your headers and footers and write emails looking like you. May I suggest caution here before jumping to conclusions.
laurentien00 2 years ago
The university admitted that the emails were indeed from them.
Nobody is denying the authenticity of the emails.
There is an investigation going on about them right now
TheAnarchanon 2 years ago
This is what yiu say, give a link which can validate your statement and do not show me the one from those conservative extremists of Fox News. I want to read names of official University people stating with links and so on.
It is not enough that state that, you have to prove it.
laurentien00 2 years ago
If you took two seconds you could have easily found this yourself.
The fact that the emails are real is not up for discussion, that's just fact. There contents are being debated
tinyurl com/yg8tb5d
tinyurl com/ylky5s7
TheAnarchanon 2 years ago
Where are your proof of that ?
I have been through several journals and also the East Anglia University communication webiste and I have found no evidence of them recognizing the emails from them.
laurentien00 2 years ago
This is a pointless discussion, the investigation is already going on, they admitted that the mails were real, but that they were misinterpreted. If you took 2 minutes to type this into google and look at some links, you would have found this already.
Your evidence "are" on the interwebs
TheAnarchanon 1 year ago
I have been to the University of East Anglia, there is no statement their admitting anything. Nothing.
The only words which say like you come from the Daily Telegraph which is not renowned to contain very good journalism.
The more serious Guardian makes it a much more limited issue of data collected in China.
laurentien00 1 year ago
True, but there is much more info in them, wich is currently being investigated. And please, don't believe everything you read in newspapers, they aren't there to keep you informed, they're there to earn money and get you to buy them
TheAnarchanon 1 year ago
Give us your links which prove that these researchers are admitting the emails being theirs. I can see that you cannot do that. This means that you cannot back up your statements.
laurentien00 1 year ago
You're looking for the CRU emails, not eastanglia emails. The CRU had their database there and the emails are theirs.
They are also the most prominent source of data for the IPCC, so if they f-up, the IPCC report is bogus aswell
TheAnarchanon 1 year ago
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tinyurl . com / ygw432h
tinyurl . com / ygtdo8g
Phil Jones even stepped down as director of CRU due to the emails.
TheAnarchanon 1 year ago
The biggest conspiracy of all is that there are no conspiracies. Oooooooooooooooo.
PikPobedy 2 years ago
It's a scam.
All studies concluding co2 might be the cause for the warming are governement funded.
Who benefits the most from the proposed options? (taxes, cap'ntrade)
That's right governements
TheAnarchanon 2 years ago
Your analysis is just to simplistic.
Governments are not just there to collect taxes and fill their Jersy Island accounts.
The interests groups in Bruxelles do want us to comsume a lot of petrol and cars so the Climate Change pros are against them. With their lobbys, then can twist everything which explains why nothing is really done to stop climate change.
laurentien00 2 years ago
What are you saying here?
I can understand English, eventhough it's not my native language, but when you butcher it like this it's elegible to me.
Governements are corrupt and will always be so.
It's human nature, give someone power and they'll abuse it. That's just a fact, so why would governements (wich consist of people FYI) be any different?
TheAnarchanon 1 year ago
Do you want me to write in Flemish or French since you are from Belgium.
I do not agree with you.
Governments may be the least corrupted institutions.
However, I do agree with the fact that big companies have very good lobbies in Bruxelles or Washington to twist every decision in their favor.
laurentien00 1 year ago
No, thank you, understandible english will do.
If you where given a large amount of money to spend on building something and you could chose between giving the contract to a good friend or a stranger, wouldn't you atleast be tempted to tell your friend, of the record, the offer of the other company so (s)he could offer a bit lower and get the contract?
TheAnarchanon 1 year ago
Problem - Reaction - Solution
You will find my faves intersting.
I am a Carbon based life form.
Peace
mskydolphin 2 years ago
Explain why the earth's warming has become insignificant since 1995 (Dr Jones of CRU) and yet the amount of co2 pumped into the air has only gotten larger? If they where related, shouldn't we see a drastic increase in temps as well?
TheAnarchanon 2 years ago
I'd explain but that would be like explaining something complicated to afour year old.
PikPobedy 2 years ago
You can't explain, not even scientists at the IPCC can.
There is no evidence that co2 is causing the climate change
TheAnarchanon 2 years ago
A basic laboratory experiment shows that CO2 is a green house gas, and thats lucky cause it had been extremely cold on earth if not. Increasing this amount is not wise as it melts Siberian tundras releasing even more CO2 and methane. Soon we can discuss this how much we want as it will have gotten out of our hands.
Fyhrtheflame 2 years ago
But the amount of co2 in the air has not increased since the 1850's. tinyurl com/ygjeacm
This just proves that there is another source for the warming and it's that big orb you see when you look up in to the sky, atleast when there aren't too many clouds covering it up
TheAnarchanon 2 years ago
Read the link you are referring to yourself. It does not say the level of atmospheric Co2 is constant. It says the the proportions between absorbed co2 and co2 increase is constant. Thats good news as long as it lasts.
Fyhrtheflame 2 years ago
Exactely, and now what does the IPCC report say about this?
It never takes the natural sinks into play, it only goes from the starting point of the co2 we emit and then what it causes in the atmosphere
TheAnarchanon 2 years ago
That will be difficult as it hasn't , the temp keeps climbing in spite of all gate hysteria.
Thermal inerta from the oceans will cause some delay between our emissions and the full temp increase but such details i do not think that you are especially interested of.
Fyhrtheflame 2 years ago
The co2 sinks (oceans,...) haven't stopped taking in co2. The amount they absorb has been the same percentage wise as our co2 emissions increased.
TheAnarchanon 2 years ago
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TheAnarchanon 2 years ago
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TheAnarchanon 2 years ago
She reminds me of Sarah Palin
watch?v=Usa7Gh-fJeI
I'd like to put her with this guy
watch?v=qslWsb25Sak
bernzeppi 2 years ago
very informative ...you go girl ...
deliondan62 2 years ago
From what I've read on many of these posts, it appears that a large majority of folks who think the Climate Crisis is a hoax focus on their concern that it is an effort towards a government take over. So, my question is this; Is the concern about a government take over so important that it does not matter to people whether there really is a Climate Crisis or not?
Staranand 2 years ago
There is no climate crisis, this was a theory by some scientists, governements saw the potential of getting a good deal of money out of it and jumped on the bandwagon blowing it out of proportion, and that's all that's going on
TheAnarchanon 2 years ago
TheElasticJesus 2 years ago
Hey ElasticJesus! Awesome handle!
Reminds me of that classic song,
I don't care if it rains or freezes
I got my plastic Jesus
Sittin' on the dashboard of my car..
Anyhow cool.
Ana-whatever is just an idiot... I spent some time with him but it keeps getting more ridiculous... now we have heat traveling at convenient speeds to match fantasy he is exhasperatingly stupid and to add to the humor, he has friends giving him the thumbs up....
Heh heh heh with friends like that, who needs enemas?
bernzeppi 2 years ago
Yeah, completely ignore my solid arguments and try to cover up your fail. That's what you've been doing since the start and that's what you'll be doing when you die
TheAnarchanon 2 years ago 2
Wow, how very scientific.
Seems like the classic case of when you can't beat the science, go for the messenger.
Pathetic really
TheAnarchanon 2 years ago 2
fuck off you idiot... the wheels just fell off... no even of your sentences are internally consistent
You have ceased to be entertaining
bernzeppi 2 years ago
Hungarian Physicist Dr. Ferenc Miskolczi proves CO2 emissions irrelevant in Earths Climate (January 12, 7:34 AM Examiner Dianna Cotter)
Dr. Zagoni explains: Since the Earths atmosphere is not lacking in greenhouse gases [water vapor], if the system could have increased its surface temperature it would have done so long before our emissions. It need not have waited for us to add CO2: another greenhouse gas, H2O,was already to hand in practically unlimited reservoirs in the oceans.
judomagyar 2 years ago 2
"Dr. Zagoni explains: Since the Earths atmosphere is not lacking in greenhouse gases [water vapor], if the..." judomagyer... rubbish!
His paper is presented as a physics-based theoretical analysis. It is based on three fundamental errors: a. Kirchhoffs Law, which is completely mis-stated. KL says that emissivity equals absorptivity. Miskolczi simply assumes the emittances and absorbances can be equated.
... more
bernzeppi 2 years ago
b. The Virial Theorem. People who know about this scratch their heads here, because it is a principle which can be important in stars, but applied to Earth just describes the hydrostatic balance of the atmosphere.
c. He has two equations which describe the result of applying conservation of energy to the Earth and the atmosphere, In an earlier version he sought to invoke conservation of momentum instead - a different principle, and very strange in the context.
judomagyer, just shit!
bernzeppi 2 years ago
"I actually sent the author an email the other day asking that very question - how does he go from KE = PE/2 to Eu = Su/2? His response so far was not very clear, and included the word "guess" which left me a little concerned."-Apsmith
Needless to say Miskolczi's paper wasn't peer accepted
bernzeppi 2 years ago
"According to the Kirchhoff law, two systems in thermal equilibrium exchange energy by absorption and emission in equal amounts, therefore, the thermal energy of either system can not be changed."-Miskolczi
well no,
"Kirchoffs Law states that the emissivity of a substance at any given frequency equals the absorptivity measured at the same frequency...."-Pierrehumbert
The absorption will depend on the incident radiation, and the emission will depend on the temperature ie: Different frequencies
bernzeppi 2 years ago
Its pretty cold here in CALIFORNIA REALLY STORMY TOO HA HA
innHD 2 years ago
Really hot here in Australia... really stormy too ha ha ha
wonder how those billions of tons of water got into the sky eh?
bernzeppi 2 years ago
LOL IT's Alexis Jones
innHD 2 years ago
CO2 is plant food. people are stupid
innHD 2 years ago
CO2 in high quantities makes carbolic acid... it kills forests like the black forest of Germany... they fixed that in the '70's
you are a simpleton
bernzeppi 2 years ago
" Where do you want the co2 measured? In water, a greenhouse, open air?" theanarchanon
Gotcha you fucking idiot!
I'll put you out of your misery... I provided links etc and you post this you complete and utter moron!
One of the main ways to measure CO2 is to measure is to measure carbonic acid
"Carbonic acid (ancient name acid of air or aerial acid) has the formula H2CO3. It is also a name sometimes given to solutions of carbon dioxide in water, ..." it can be done to atomic accuracy!
LOL!
bernzeppi 2 years ago
Yeah, that's how schoolchildren do it too eh?
Fucking retard.
There are much easier ways ( there are even machines you can use to do it)
And you still haven't proven that co2 is causing the warming. You post articles about co2 rising, but that doesn't prove it causes the earth warming at all.
And I have posted dozens of links, you retard. Here's some more:
tinyurl . com / kraen7
tinyurl . com / 6258k2
tinyurl . com / ysnwb5
tinyurl . com / 3d6q4x
tinyurl . com / yb2loyt
TheAnarchanon 2 years ago
you've gone from saying we can't measure CO2 to oh... schoolchildren do it
at least you've learnt something albeit I haven't dented your arrogance and only slightly dented your ignorance
You say one second mars is warming with earth
then you say earth has been cooling since '01
then you say mars has been waiting 10 years for the cooling to arrive
Light, heat, electromagnetic radiation takes 10 mins extra to get to mars
it's incredible I'm talking to an arrogant child who has no basic education
bernzeppi 2 years ago
No, retard. I said we can't measure co2 IN THE PAST, we can make estimates as to how much was in the air then, but it's not very accurate.
No, What I'm saying is that earth has stopped warming since 2001, Mars was still warming in 2005, there is more to warming caused by the sun then just those factors. Different planetary factors are also in effect, but since there is no manmade co2 on mars, why was the warming almost the same?
TheAnarchanon 2 years ago
"No, retard. I said we can't measure co2 IN THE PAST"-Anarch
This means you don't understand how CO2 is measured IN THE PRESENT... by it's dissolving in water... the difference in ice cores is merely they are frozen in time. You've come at me with a partial pressure study on Co2 using isotopes to show there is an anomaly of CO2 fraction but not actual CO2 then you come up with this shit.
Sadly this conversation has descended into farce.
You don't even have a school kid's foundation in science
bernzeppi 2 years ago
I do, but what you don't seem to get is that it isn't accurate, like i've been saying since the first posts I made. How hard is it to understand that?
And you seem to forget there are also co2 deposits in rocks and other stuff besides icecores. So you're waterthing doesn't work there.
TheAnarchanon 2 years ago
You have no foundation in science at all
this is a ridiculous conversation where you claim to know accuracy limitations in a technology you don't understand... ie you just make shit up
The solar system is not heating up... you reckon earth is cooling and warming 'cause mars is (NOT)
"planetary conditions" cause cooling to take five years to reach mars.. laughable
this grand variable reality theory of yours trumps climate science over the last 100 years
You are just an arrogant idiot
bernzeppi 2 years ago
Dude, really, there is way more to it then just measuring co2.
And the solar system is heating up, prove otherwise.
Mars is made out of almost nothing but dust, earth has oceans absorbing heat. Seems like Mars would take longer to cooldown and is faster to warm up, or am I going to fast for your puny brain?
This stopped being an intelligent discussion as soon as you said AGW is real, bozo
TheAnarchanon 2 years ago