Y2B Productions (IRATE Gamer) Copyright Claims Investigation

[kingdongchong]

I just like watching the clips of the old video games, had not heard of AVGN, but will look him up. Its funny when geeks argue via the Internet, @getalife.cok

[Dakkiller1]

This video deserves more views

[supersaiyansai]

we all know Y2B productions is fake, because james has Cinemassacre, chris needs a producer too, ask chris what does Y2B mean, and if its real, he'll ignore you

[CyberHardHat]

I can't believe that the Irate gamer is deleating people video for no reason.

[Roboprez3]

this is a lawsuit if i ever saw one, good job

[fredottman]

I hate IG as much as the next guy...but you don't have to register your copyright to retain copyright protection. All Bores has to do is fix his original product in a tangible medium of expression and he has protection. Copyright law is funny like that. So when he posts his videos, he gains protection. It's a little more complicated than that, but that's the general idea.

[DMXP100]

@fredottman

Anybody can claim basic copyright (as in, don't copy me since that's not fair), but the thing here is that Y2B needs a valid copyright in order to actually make his infringement claims legal.

You also have to consider that, even with a fully valid copyright, most of the removed material is considered Fair Use, so that's also infringement of Copyright Law.

[fredottman]

I see what you're saying...you're saying Bores is infringing someone else's copyright to begin with so he can't rightfully claim copyright protection of his own.

You lost me at your Fair Use definition though. Since he's using copyrighted material for "informational" or "review" purposes, I'd say he falls under Fair Use...just in the same way the IG parodies do.

At any rate, I think you're doing a good job and you should consider law school if you want. I took Copyright Law last year.

[DMXP100]

@fredottman

No, I didn't mean that. What I meant was that Y2B needs a licensed and valid copyright in order to stake copyright claims on Youtube. Since Y2B has neglected to do so, every time a video is pulled for copyright infringement, there are no legal grounds to do so, since no copyright exists to legally infringe.

As for Fair Use, I meant the videos that he pulled. Even if he DID have a valid copyright, the videos he pulled were protected under Fair Use.

[DMXP100]

You also have to consider that the AVGN and Cinemassacre do not have valid copyrights either. So, what Chris Bores is doing plagiarism-wise is perfectly legal.

Yet, the content in the removed videos were protected under the Fair Use policy. Removal of protected material (like what WMG is doing) is against the law.

I never accused the IRATE Gamer of plagiarism. His material is part of the public domain, which cannot be used as grounds for copyright infringement, until he gets a valid copyright.

[DMXP100]

I just e-mailed Youtube about this. I outlined exactly what the IRATE Gamer is doing wrong on this site. Now, the war is coming back to him.

...What have I done?!

[BashBoresProductions]

dude what happened with that

[likeasquid]

didnt he keep the back to the future video and music on his dvd.

[DMXP100]

@likeasquid

That could be considered fair use on his part. What I'm referring to here is infringing fair use rights of other users.

[maygirl]

Good, good. Facts that prove irate gamer sucks. But indeed, many people rip off of the AVGN, like the Angry Video Game Fag, maybe, and irate gamer?

However, both the AVGN and IG are making a profit.

Wait, I heard the AVGN was banned from YouTube before. Is the current IG's his second YouTube account?

[DMXP100]

@maygirl

This doesn't prove that he sucks; it proves that he is a criminal.

Sure, they are both making a profit with their DVDs, but that is fair use material (criticisms), which they are allowed to sell.

And, yes, the AVGN WAS banned. Well, AngryVideoGameNerd (the channel) was banned. He has two other accounts, though (Cinemassacre and JamesNintendoNerd). Irategamer is NOT his account in any way.

[Kousaburo]

Why hasn't Chris Whores been sent off to court? If these videos were removed unfairly someone should dispute this with "Y2B Productions" (if it exists) or lardass himself, Chris Whores in court.

[DMXP100]

@Kousaburo

That, my friend, is a very good question. I guess everybody was either too lazy to actually take action, or they thought that he would eventually fade away or get caught red-handed.

[Kousaburo]

If plagarism were a crime under US law, do you think Irate Gamer would be found innocent?

[DMXP100]

@Kousaburo

No, but plagiarism of IRATE Gamer's kind isn't yet illegal, because of the lack of critical evidence needed; all the evidence against him for plagiarism, unfortunately, is circumstantial. Not to say he isn't a plagiarist (he IS a blatant AVGN knock-off), but in the eyes of the court, he isn't really that much of a plagiarist.

[Kousaburo]

What about about the comparrison compediums? The exposes that many people have put together show nothing other than starling proof that IG has pinched ideas (or what could be called intellectual property) directly from AVGN.

[DMXP100]

@Kousaburo

Now that I think about it, he may be responsible for plagiarism since he IS making a profit. Considering the other charges he has aganst him, though, I don't worry much about plagiarism. Most reviewers on Youtube rip off the AVGN. The IG, however, is taking it one step further by covering up the fact that he is a ripoff, although he hasn't done much of a good job of that, either.

[IRATEGamerForEver1]

no u suck

[IRATEGamerForEver1]

Fuck you and your lies!

[BashBoresProductions]

Fuck you and your piece of shit IrateGamer.

[zarados10]

Its true. Its funny how baby's like you can't take the truth.

[Stupidfart9876]

I think that IrateGamerFanboi is an epic troll... you know, pretending to be retarded? :3

BTW I don't really know

[IRATEGAMERFANBOI]

Heh, I'm fake, in case you haven't realized it by now, but making fun of Irate Gamer fanboys is so much fun, I can't resist keeping this up. =)

[Stupidfart9876]

@IRATEGAMERFANBOI

Pretending to be an idiot is one ex of trolling... rite? :C

[IRATEGAMERFANBOI]

Correct.

[Stupidfart9876]

@IRATEGAMERFANBOI

Now I'm having a feeling ALL IG fans are trolls... I don't think anyone likes IG... Unless they haven't heard of AVGN... : /

[IRATEGAMERFANBOI]

Heh, well I wouldn't say ALL of his subscribers are trolls, I'm sure there's several hundred who actually ARE ignorant enough to believe that the Irate Gamer came before the Angry Video Game Nerd, and a lot of other fans just have disagreeable views, then there's the people who watch him because he's funny for all the wrong reasons (only funny when he's not trying to be funny, how inaccurate his research is for example), but a lot more of them are just trolling, like me, and that's for certain.

[IRATEGAMERFANBOI]

Obviously.