great debate. so many points were not even covered like how athletes on scholarships are not able to obtain jobs, while the coaches and school exploit their names on jerseys and their labor. these are not amateur athletes they should all get paid a fixed salary.
College football today has become such a part of not just the Universities but the towns they're in. If you took away football from Tuscaloosa, Norman, Gainesville, South Bend, etc. would be ruined, countless jobs loss and local economies destroyed. It's never going to happen, but it's a VERY GOOD discussion to have to improve overall faculty and educational purposes.
yeah considering American football would not exist if it weren't for the fact that Young men need physical activity so they decided to kick and throw around a ball.
my point? American football was first played in College's. College's created this sport, they cant dump it anymore. Besides, whats the point of arguing something that you cant change? Like worrying about something you have no control over.
@EmbraceTheThunder its brings money to the schools. i mean hell could you imagine the money a program like michigan or usc brings from one homegame? it helps the schools, and it brings students toghehter.
I am a former "Student-Athlete" at the college level and rejected the "jock" stereotype.
College football is a BIG business and it does indeed take away from the true spirit of collegiate athletics. This all changed after WWII when schools started admitting Veterans from the war to enter their schools and lowering the admission standards.
Bottom line is this, too much $ is involved and too many people with their fingers in the pie. The NCAA is the biggest sham of all.
yeah, those pesky veterans dumbing down the Ivory Towers and Elitist hubs. Considering half the damn universities in this country would not exist without the influx of vets after WWII.
Ever listened to most of the players that go pro from college on tv? I would have flunked freshman highschool english talking like that. Majoring in basket weaving basket weaving and P.E. must be a breeze.
Wonderful debate. It is far too often that American Colleges fall into the trap of becoming athlete factories while other students fall by the wayside. Though to be fair, College Football's popularity amongst the general population should count for something.
This is indeed a question far too often left undiscussed.
great debate. so many points were not even covered like how athletes on scholarships are not able to obtain jobs, while the coaches and school exploit their names on jerseys and their labor. these are not amateur athletes they should all get paid a fixed salary.
junglebrother429 10 months ago
College football today has become such a part of not just the Universities but the towns they're in. If you took away football from Tuscaloosa, Norman, Gainesville, South Bend, etc. would be ruined, countless jobs loss and local economies destroyed. It's never going to happen, but it's a VERY GOOD discussion to have to improve overall faculty and educational purposes.
RollOnToVictory 10 months ago
alot of reading..otherwise decent
DeStrLord101 1 year ago
What gives? Not much discussion on the new book "You Have A College Degree, Now What?" Not sure why though.
prehistoric28 1 year ago
the first word i think when i hear "NCAA Football" is
FRAUD
then i think
CARTELL
sgentlemanjack112 1 year ago
I believe that if anything, sports should be privatized and separated from universities completely.
Educational institutes should be -Educational Institutes-, and that's it.
Students shouldn't have to pay a shitload more in tuition to support something that has nothing to do with the education of the students.
To those that are going to RAGE at me for saying that: I don't care and I'm not responding to you unless it's an intelligent argument.
EmbraceTheThunder 1 year ago 2
@EmbraceTheThunder
yeah considering American football would not exist if it weren't for the fact that Young men need physical activity so they decided to kick and throw around a ball.
my point? American football was first played in College's. College's created this sport, they cant dump it anymore. Besides, whats the point of arguing something that you cant change? Like worrying about something you have no control over.
Rac665 1 year ago
@EmbraceTheThunder its brings money to the schools. i mean hell could you imagine the money a program like michigan or usc brings from one homegame? it helps the schools, and it brings students toghehter.
nelsoncards 1 year ago
Good ND cares about football and education.
Kurzhal09 1 year ago
it is all about making money
KhmerD0g 1 year ago
I am a former "Student-Athlete" at the college level and rejected the "jock" stereotype.
College football is a BIG business and it does indeed take away from the true spirit of collegiate athletics. This all changed after WWII when schools started admitting Veterans from the war to enter their schools and lowering the admission standards.
Bottom line is this, too much $ is involved and too many people with their fingers in the pie. The NCAA is the biggest sham of all.
ramboconan1 1 year ago
@ramboconan1
yeah, those pesky veterans dumbing down the Ivory Towers and Elitist hubs. Considering half the damn universities in this country would not exist without the influx of vets after WWII.
Rac665 1 year ago
Re gnitleinad:
I am having a pdf of the transcript posted on my Web Site. Stay tuned.
TGP
TGP1995 2 years ago
Wonderful debate. Is there going to be a transcript for it?
gnitleinad 2 years ago 2
I think there should beone. I'll check at UTKnow.
TGP1995 2 years ago
Ever listened to most of the players that go pro from college on tv? I would have flunked freshman highschool english talking like that. Majoring in basket weaving basket weaving and P.E. must be a breeze.
woodlandcammo27 2 years ago
In response to your comment, I am hoping that you realize that this is not ALL student-athletes. Some can actually read, write, and make fire!
But I do understand where you are coming from. I did play on teams with guys who had me wondering how in the world even got into college.
ramboconan1 1 year ago
@woodlandcammo27
So what if they don't speak like you? Their "job" does not require them to speak like you. Their job is to play football. Their office is the field.
Yojimbo413 1 year ago
excellent work!
1888junkteam 2 years ago
Wonderful debate. It is far too often that American Colleges fall into the trap of becoming athlete factories while other students fall by the wayside. Though to be fair, College Football's popularity amongst the general population should count for something.
This is indeed a question far too often left undiscussed.
cheers!
tglass55 2 years ago 7