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  • Pregnancy isn't a disease, it's a normal function of the body called reproduction. As for adopting children not to worry, we have HUNDREDS waiting on lists to adopt kids. The only thing that should be terminated is the rights of parents whose kids go to foster care so they can be adopted by waiting heterosexual couples.

  • Many pro-lifers also don't realize how dangerous pregnancy and childbirth are either. Even a seemingly normal pregnancy can be dangerous and life-threatening.

  • This is awesome!

  • @Soothfish The reason why he does not want to adopt someone is because he is not an anti-abortionist. Please observe others' points before you blurt out a poorly thought out, illogical response. Additionally in case you haven't noticed, the point he is making is that banning abortion will lead to the detriment of society via overpopulation, HE is the one looking to child safety. I apologize if your mind can only function one step at a time. BTW a lump of cells is NOT a person, discussion over.

  • This is the ultimate Malthusian view. Ebeneezer Scrooge, much?

  • Another thing I found disgusting about this video is how he showed that beautiful extended family as if their young bodies were some type of locust swarm or plague upon the planet. It doesn't get more demented than that. How is this not full fledged misanthropy disguised as concern for society?

    Why doesn't the author of this trash video take his own advice and adopt the unwanted? I bet he has never even been a foster parent!

  • We are not going to have mass starvation in the country just because of an extra million babies. Does the idiot in this video even realize that the number is being exceeded by immigration, including illegal immigration? So if the immigration isn't resulting in mass starvation then why would natural born babies do it?

    The freak who made this video is either too dumb to understand this or just enjoys the idea of treating children like expendable meat. Even farm animals get better.

  • There are long lines of people waiting to adopt children. They prefer infants but there is a shortage of infants up for adoption....because they have all been killed...

  • Why not stop all immigration into this country instead of killing off our own children?.

  • This video is about population control, why dont you use one of the many forms of birth control available? The Dollar STore sells condoms. Or do us all a favor and get sterilized. But of course pro aborts wont get sterilized, they have to much fun ripping the spinal cords out of babies.

  • The people who want to adopt can afford the financial aid to take care of babies. There are organizations that would love to have multiple children in it's home. This is no excuse for an abortion. You stupid idiot making excuses that the world would be overpopulated. If u believe that, go murder everyone u see, it's no difference than killing a pre-porn baby. I have friend that has up to 20 children in her home. I've seen an organization that accepts all unwanted babies who are abandoned.

  • You should be advocating for more abortions for Africa, they will add 1 billion people to the world population (100% increase) in 40 years.

  • Well, thats it. I guess we need to fire up the ovens to take care of the poor children of this country who are not getting the quality of life they deserve.

    Besides, they are a burden on us working people, and that can't be right. We need to dispose of them as humanely as possible. They should have been aborted, but better late than never.

  • I think, the abortionist should be the target of prosecution, not so much the woman. Before Roe vs Wade, it wasn't t like a mass group of women were indicted for having illegl abortions.

  • If morality means nothing to you, then gtfo of our country.

  • @EmilyAndAlexis123

    When did I say that morality means nothing to me?

    Oh, that's right... I didn't.

    But you're apparently too stupid to actually address any point made in this video, so best you just make some shit up.

  • @sapperbloggs How many children have you fostered? How many have you adopted? I have fostered 2 and plan to adopt soon.

    You did nothing with this video except treat human beings (children mostly) as if they are nothing but cattle in a cramped pen that occasionally need to be literally processed like excess meat to maintain the balance. This is the most extreme case of misanthropy, anti-child hatred, and nihilism that I have ever seen.

    Even your math was nonsense. Different discussion.

  • @EmilyAndAlexis123 I love how you think it is specifically YOUR country. Guess what people have differing views and different morals. In my opinion it is immoral for old men in Congress to try and regulate the reproductive health and privacy of women in America. Not to mention 'pro-lifers' aren't actually pro-life, they are just anti-abortion. Who cares about that baby after its born, right? Who cares about sending troops to war to slaughter people half way around the world.

  • No one is pro-abortion. Most hate the idea of abortion but hate telling a women what to do with her own body even more. Anti-abortion people usually fail to even think about the issue. They are illogically driven by their emotions and an irrational belief in some sky daddy.

  • "If you don't like abortion don't have one. You have no right to impose your views on others"

    If you don't like slavery don't own a slave. You have no right to impose your views on others. See the problem with that logic?

  • Worst pro-choice argument ever.

  • @balarkabiotech

    'Worst pro-choice argument ever'

    So bad your response to said argument is to state an opinion, and nothing else. You'd think if it was as bad as you say it is, you'd at least be able to back that opinion with some form of reason.

  • @sapperbloggs Just for the record, I am Pro-Choice. But there are a few hundred really good pro-choice arguments to be made before something as bat-shit crazy as "population control". Ethically, it is a terrible idea. People have always "hey! If we kill a a couple of million lives, we can keep the population in check". Several ethical concerns there. Why stop at aborting foetuses? Why not encourage low income families to kill off a few babies? Or knock off old grandpa? Euthanasia for pop control

  • @balarkabiotech

    This video isn't suggesting abortion is population control. It's asking the hypothetical, if abortion was one-day magically stopped (which couldn't happen), what would the result be? Basically, even if the pro-life movement could get their wish... it would screw society anyway.

    Reality is, banning abortion doesn't stop abortion... it just makes it more dangerous... so my hypothetical is an impossibility anyway

  • @sapperbloggs @sapperbloggs Oh I see. You were just having some fun with words then. Tossing about hypotheticals. My apologies. I took you seriously for a second. I like this game of "let's discuss improbable hypotheticals, which I know are are stupid, but would be fun play with"... yeah... I have a few "what if... all the roads in the world were made of jello, do you think that would increase crash fatalities or reduce them?" "what if rain was donuts? would that solve the hunger crisis". FUN!

  • @balarkabiotech

    Are you retarded?

    The 'hypothetical' I'm throwing out isn't some random 'batman V spiderman' bullshit. It's the stated aim of the pro-life movement. This is what they honestly want. Just because it won't happen (as I also explicitly stated at the end of the video, which I'm doubting you even saw)... doesn't make the point irrelevant.

    I'm basically just demonstrating another reason why pro-life is retarded... much like you

  • @sapperbloggs HAHAHAHAHA. When you lose an argument, call the other guy a retard (or similar). Good one. Never seems to fail. Keep it up mate.

  • @balarkabiotech

    If all I did was call you a retard, you'd be right.

    I explained specifically WHY I think you're a retard, by explaining why your earlier argument was stupid... and your only response is 'You called be a name, thus negating absolutely everything you said'.

    Logic obviously isn't your strong suit.

    I didn't call you a retard in lieu of an argument. I called you a retard because, based on the arguments you've made... I honestly think you're stupid.

  • @sapperbloggs By your logic. Murderers, arsonists, drunk drivers and cigarettes are doing us a favor. Keepin balance. FYI: abortion as pop control doesn't actually work. Infanticide/abortions are far more common in third-world asian countries. Yet their pop is exploding! How? Contrarily, Europe, Japan and Aus are deeply worried about pop decline. So, by your logic they should IMMEDIATELY ban abortions! What do u suggest?

    You're welcome. This lesson is free of charge. Future ones will cost u.

  • @balarkabiotech

    Seeing as you're not telling me anything I don't already know... and you're completely missing the point of the video... I'm glad you're not expecting payment.

  • @balarkabiotech So much logic, I can barely see it at all! Oh wait, there is none; I'm just giving you too much credit. Sorry, I assumed that rather than just be a little bitch and whine that this shit actually has science, fact, and common sense backing it up, you'd at LEAST put a little reasoning into your argument, rather than just say it IS the "worst". I'd hate to see your reaction to the "best" argument, if this can't meet your standards.

  • @RyleyAshford Read my response to the other dumdum. It goes double for you. Come up with some serious well thought out arguments and stop writing down whatever world-changing idea you had last time you smoked pot. "Science, fact and common sense". It has neither.

    Stop making yourself look bad. There are other people with valid pro and con arguments in this very serious debate. Stop embarassing them and yourself.

    You're welcome.

  • @balarkabiotech Yes. OTHER people, with reasons that go beyond opinions. I responded to your, "worst argument ever" standalone comment. It seemed to draw a lot more attention than anything else. As for your accusations of me smoking marijuana and this video not having science/fact/common sense backing it up, those are also opinions as I don't smoke or drink, and this video has cited sources for its displayed information which were correct at the time it was made.

    Me look bad? Can't imagine how.

  • What trash

  • Unless a child is adopted by a pro-lifer, that pro-lifer can't speak out?

    If that's the case, you can't be for abortion unless you've had one and/or performed one.

    If you're against the death penalty, you have to visit death row on a regular basis?

    If your for the death penalty, you would have to flip the switch?

    If you're against drugs, you have to join the DEA or become a narc?

    If you're against cancer, you should remodel your home for raditation treatments and chemo therapy?

  • So, let's kill off those we can't support. Let's also kill all the criminals, all the elderly, anyone who is hurting the economy. Makes Sense, if your a nazi.

  • @Right2Lefty says: let's kill off those we can't support.

    ~~~~~~~~~~ Hell no, we cant do that. BUT, we can abort embryos that we know will not have the life it DESERVES,,unless you dont care about a childs quailty of life....do you?

  • @Sueezee1 Who are you whether or not someone's quality of life will be good or bad. If we followed your logic than we should kill the babies born in the Ghetto, because "we know it will not have the life it DESERVES." You have no idea what someone will become, so don't decide a person's fate before they can.

  • @Right2Lefty says: Who are you whether or not someone's quality of life will be good or bad.

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Where in the hell did I say I was qualified??? How about the parents who KNOW if they have the ability to want, love, guide, and give the child all it deserves.. along with clothing, food, roof over heads, education, health care, and the list goes on for people who demand the best for kids. Would you understand that concept?

  • @Right2Lefty says: You have no idea what someone will become,

    ~~~~~~~~~~~ Bull shit, anyone with any education knows that loved, guided and cared for kids turn out better than ones who arent. Look at the parenting skills of most parenst of people in prison. Look at the effects that teen parenthood has kids. Theyre more likely to perform poorly in school, do drugs, join gangs, be violent, and are at greater risk of abuse and neglect .  take some pride in yourself & the things you say..LEARN

  • @Sueezee1 Obviously, poorer parents tend to produce children that are worse off. So, like i said, is your solution just to kill them? The parents CHOSE to put themselves at risk by having children (with the exception of rape, which i believe is then okay). Don't tell me a 16 or 17 year old girl living in a middle class household can't support a child. Everyone is capable of loving and caring for their own child, no matter who you are. Take some pride in your race.

  • @Right2Lefty says: The parents CHOSE to put themselves at risk by having children

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~ THEMSELVES???????? What in the hell are you talking about?

  • @Right2Lefty says: Don't tell me a 16 or 17 year old girl living in a middle class household can't support a child.

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~

    Jesus christ....here we go again...ANOTHER prolifer who cant comprehend what they read. ( that phenom will NEVER cease to amaze me). SUPPORT IT???? Do you think making 200 bucks a week by a damned teen is all i was talking about??? Go back and re read my post and this pay attention, and if you cant respond intelliigently, just dont bother.

  • @Right2Lefty says: Everyone is capable of loving and caring for their own child, no matter who you are. Take some pride in your race.

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~ hahahahahahahahaha...MY RACE?? hahahahahahahha....BYE, i dont debate 9 yr olds.

  • @Sueezee1 Stop trying to act intelligent. You put exclamations after all your sentences to make yourself seem like your saying something important. You're not. You lack the ability to directly respond to my comments. You're too predictable, and no matter what I say you will blindly attack it, because you are narrow minded and don't realize what your talking about. So let me keep it simple for you; anyone who knows the risks they take by having sex should be able to support a child. Not kill it.

  • @Right2Lefty says: Stop trying to act intelligent. You put exclamations after all your sentences to make yourself seem like your saying something important. You're not. You lack the ability to directly respond to my comments. You're too predictable, and no matter what I ........

    ~~~~~~~~~~~ yadda yadda yadda,, attempting to distract people w/ ad hominems in debates is a common, active strategy for people who are stumped by an argument.

  • @Right2Lefty says:Stop trying to act intelligent.

    ~~~~~~~~~~~ Its not acting. (smile)

  • @Right2Lefty Do you not have the balls to respond to one single comment I made to you? Whats the matter, did I hit the nail on the head and your painted into a corner with no comeback? ? LOL

  • but i think the calculations are wrong. there may not BE that much of increase in the population. it needs to be taken into account for how many old people die, how many people of any age die of natural, accidental, or other causes. and then you have to take into account the amount of babies that are miscarried and also the amount of young babies who die from SIDS, or other medical complications. So in all reality the population increase would not be as much as stated above.

  • I love that pic at the end!

  • great video. to much common sense for the common "prolifer."

  • 303 million divided by 1.03 million is 1:230 not 1:23. Credibility lost instantly.

  • @starke24x

    Of course, because putting a decimal point in the wrong spot renders the entire fucking argument null and void, doesn't it?

  • That was quite an argument. When does human life begin? I didn't see that addressed. Does traveling down the birth canal turn someone into a human being? When the sperm of a man penetrates the egg of a woman doesn't it stand to reason that this is when human life begins? Two things that need to be addressed. Are the unborn human? If they are human when do they become persons?

  • @UncleCheesey1

    I'd argue that human life begins when the fetus could possibly survive outside the womb. This, coincidentally, is around the same time that the brain finishes developing (more or less), sensory perception is achieved, and they are able to feel pain... approx. 22 weeks.

  • @sapperbloggs

    That's basically how the Roe V Wade decision was formulated, but I'd rather we went for something unique to humanity, and something measurable- and if the measurable human quality was tested for, and found to exist, then the fetus is allowed "personhood." I submit that the quality we test for is akin to a fully adult brainwave pattern. It starts when the brain is mature enough to think like a full adult. Before that, it's like an animal and gets no state protection.

  • @cameraperson

    How exactly do you do an EEG on a fetus? 

  • @sapperbloggs

    Electrodes and suction cups. Its not dangerous for the fetus nor the mom. Theres lots of info online.

  • @cameraperson

    Rather than running a fetal EEG on every person who undergoes an abortion... why not just go with what science has already found, draw a line in the sand based on that (eg. somewhere between 18-24 weeks), and not allow elective abortions after that time? I get what you're getting at, but human brains are arguably not 'adult' until they're 22 years old. Laws based on EEG readouts aren't going to be as clear to enforce as ones based on actual periods of time.

  • @sapperbloggs

    I understand, but in order for this to work, I think it needs to be measurable. I think we ought to protect what is truely human- the brainwaves do show this. It's not about being "adult" as opposed to "childish." Its about a fetal brain being able to feel pain, create memories, and function as you and I do. To be human is to be worth protecting, and we need to establish guidlines for what is, and what is not. We wouldnt test every case, just every close case.

  • @cameraperson

    I don't see how this would differ to just picking a time based on research with EEG's... say (for example), of 100 fetus', none are found to have any readings before 22 weeks... but at 23 some do. Then make it 22 weeks. EEG readings aren't an all or nothing thing, and they don't suddenly start at a particular moment. How would you define 'adult' from 'non-adult', when you're looking at a wavy line on a page? You'd still have to define a term to decide what is and isn't.

  • @sapperbloggs

    Either way, I think there needs to be a measurable standard based on a unique human quality. And thats the beauty of this argument, it's already well known what a fully functioning brainwave looks like- and it's exact. Forget the terms "adult" or "childish." ANY fully formed brain gives off this signal. So when a fetus shows this signal, I believe we should call it human, rather than imposing an age restriction because some fetus might develop faster than the cutoff.

  • @cameraperson

    google the words "abortion carl sagan" and read the abortion.shtml page that comes up- and really read it. It's such a good series of ideas on this subject. I find it to greatly inform my debate in this subject.

  • I'm pro-choice, but this is kind of a wrong argument. You gotta look at the scientific facts. I support abortion under the 2 month period where the embryo isn't conscious and isn't practically living. It's not murder if it's not living.

    I also support euthanasia, people who want to end their lives short should have their choice to, but gotta add an age limit so parents don't get calls from their doctors saying that their child wants to be put down.

  • @NakedCreep

    It's not an argument for abortion, as much as it's a 'what if' it was stopped tomorrow (which is impossible). The numbers that the argument are based on are generally wrong... I deliberately sourced them from pro-life websites, to highlight how flexible with the truth they tend to be.

    I'm also against voluntary late-term abortion, though given most disorders can't be detected until later in the pregnancy, I think there should still be an allowance made for medical reasons.

  • @NakedCreep

    If the brain dosnt function, it's not feeling pain or thinking like a person. That happens around the 5th month.

  • Hey, why don't you volunteer yourself for extermination so that there will be more food to go around when the population gets too out of control in the USA? Good thing Pol Pot killed 1.7 million Cambodians, otherwise there would be more mouths than there is rice to feed them and all their offspring. Bless his compassionate heart.

  • @yesstiles

    Way to miss the point of the video entirely. I'm not arguing why abortion exists, only what would (theoretically) happen if you actually managed to stop all abortions tomorrow. If your only way of making an argument is a half-assed comparison to Pol Pot, you really shouldn't waste your time.

    Reality is, no laws will stop abortion... almost half of all abortions occur in countries where it is illegal.

  • @yesstiles says: ey, why don't you volunteer yourself for extermination so that there will be more food

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Jesus, listen to that...... no wonder dumdbass, uneducated prolifers can get NOwhere in their fight.

  • @yesstiles

    Hey that's a great idea, we SHOULD eat Cambodians! 

  • @sapperbloggs

    How do I debate with a baboon?

  • @RalphMariedeLargo

    'How do I debate with a baboon?'

    Funny... I was thinking the exact same thing

  • Only a stone hearted person could look at an ultrasound of a developing baby in the mother and dismiss it as a "mass of cells" or "a blob of tissue".

    The little dismembered arms, legs and crushed skulls that are the result of an abortion are butchered human remains. It's not akin to wart removal as many seem to think.

  • and yet, many of those stone hearted people have had children theyve loved, are in loving relationships and come from loving families they love back. how odd.

  • @Pelonetillo I'm sure they've had children that were loved but how does that excuse them for the ones they murdered?

  • well, if they can love and care for children, how are they stone hearted? sounds a bit contradictory.

  • @KnightOwl2006

    Just because someone does not see the world as you do, does not make them a 'cold hearted' person.

    The 'little dismembered limbs, etc' aren't attached to a human that is cognitively aware or capable of sensing pain. They're attached to a fetus, that is developing to become a human... but is not a human yet. Anthropomorphising a fetus does not actually make a fetus human, and it does not make you a better person.

  • My best friend had an abortion because it was discovered to be an eptopic pregnancy. She really wanted the baby, but in doing so, the pregnancy would have killed her.

  • @nthomas32 Ectopic pregnancies can't be carried to term where the fertilized egg and sperm develops outside the uterus... Correct? So the Church does not consider this an abortion as the child can only die outside the uterus. The 52 Million abortions since 1973 where not ectopic pregnancies. It is genocide. It is this nation's Abortion Holocaust.

  • @RML

    And what about kids born with horrible genetic abnormalities? I'm not talking about a missing limb... I mean things like no skin, no brain, no face... and all the other wonderful things your loving god likes to do to babies occasionally.

    Knowing beforehand that if born, a child will live an extremely short live in complete agony... which is more moral? Abortion? Or bringing them to term and keeping them alive to suffer?

    Not many people remain christian after working in pediatric oncology.

  • @sapperbloggs Kids born with horrible genetic abnormalities is God's will. We love one another and use all means to comfort. Murder is not comforting. If God tests us with suffering, then we suffer in His Name.

    I am praying upon bended knee each day at Mass for your conversion to the Church so don't be surprised when it happens.

  • @RalphMariedeLargo

    Wow... you preach to me about morality, and pass off children living in torment and agony as being okay because it's 'god's will'.

    And you wonder why nobody takes your superstition seriously any more?

    Anyways... lesson #23 for you about your religion.

    We have been given free will. According the the bible you apparently know so much about, God cannot influence my will. We have to choose to follow him ourselves. But being a christian and all, you already knew this, didn't you?

  • @sapperbloggs

    god does not exist, or if it does, it's hiding so that nobody can prove it exists. so why do we waste ANY time on this nonsense concept?

  • @RalphMariedeLargo

    "is gods will." how do you know? did you "ask?"

  • @sapperbloggs

    And clearly, if a baby is born with no skin- just put it down. Stop it's suffering! Likewise, if I lost my skin in a fire- someone PLEASE kill me.

    If it dosnt have a brain, it's not human. It can not do what human beings do- think and reason on a higher level compared to the animals. What would a tiger be if it was born without claws?  What would a bird be without wings?

  • @RalphMariedeLargo

    Its interesting that religions will make exceptions, as if what they say matters at all. I dont care what Pat Robertson or the Pope or anyone thinks- except what we call "law." Its the lowest common moral or ethical stance. Who cares what someone thinks if they pretend there's an invisible man in the sky who can hear the thoughts of people starving and dying, but this nonsense creature dosnt lift a finger to save innocent people from terror and suffering.

  • I'm not a Christian and I think that every whore who kills their own child should be raped to death :D

  • @omegapoint777

    'I'm not a Christian'

    So you picked 777 because you like the number? Riiiight.

    Anyway, at least christians have a reason for being retards. You apparently, just do it by default.

    Answer this... what should happen to the men who get these women pregnant? Raped to death too?

  • @omegapoint777

    I think anyone who believes in god should be put on a special island for crazy people.

  • @cameraperson

    That's because you're a fucking fascist. I think every fucking fascist scumbag should be killed.

  • @omegapoint777

    No, I'm not. And you gotta get that anger checked.

  • @omegapoint777 EL OH EL. Please don't tell me you're pro-life because your comment just proved otherwise.

  • @omegapoint777 wow and from your name i can see you "love god".... let no unwholsome talk come from your mouth. anyone around the world can read your writings... i'm anti abortion as well, a firm christian, but i do not call people names and use such lang as you have, ask forgivness and be set free from your anger and hate. abortion is a sin and we are to hate the sin but love the sinner. you dont show that in your words or actions.

  • @River101010

    :(

  • @omegapoint777 is that all you have to say " :( " comeon step up to the plate and ask God and those you offendend to forgive you. i mean you claim Christ but cant show it in words thats low, children of the King ought not to speak with such venom. i know Christ wasnt always very nice but he wasnt always very nice to only the religious leaders of his day, so i just ask you to ask forgiveness.

  • @sapperblogg... You advocate murder. You advocate the renunciation of our Lord Jesus Christ. As such you are a vile and despicable human being, so why shouldn't I be delighted to see you burn in HELL next to Adolf Hitler and Joseph Stalin. You advocate evil. You are an Evildoer, so burn in HELL Bitch. Nothing UN-Christian about that, I did my obligation and I warned you.

  • @RalphMariedeLargo

    'so why shouldn't I be delighted to see you burn in HELL'

    Probably because it's against the teachings of jesus. Warning someone is one thing... telling them you'll enjoy their suffering is another.

  • @sapperbloggs An Atheist preaches to me a Roman Catholic boy about Jesus. Boy, you are one comedian. This is as good comedy as the Whore of Babylon preaching to Mother Teresa of Calcutta about chastity.

    I don't want anyone to suffer the inhuman pains and torture of everlasting HELL, but after seeing my society molested by the likes of you Advocating genocide, I want justice and if that means HELL for you... O... well... you brought it on yourself.

    What I enjoy is seeing the justice of Christ.

  • @RalphMariedeLargo

    If Mother Theresa was claiming chastity in one instance whilst whoring herself in another (but justifying it in god's name), and the whore of Babylon made that observation that Mother Theresa was still a whore, regardless of her justification...

    ...the observation would be no less true, coming from the whore of Babylon.

  • @sapperbloggs You Atheists amuse me.

  • @RalphMariedeLargo

    I'll assume, do to your complete lack of a counter-argument... that you just don't have one.

    Which is pretty much what I've expected, seeing I seem to have a better grasp of the religion you apparently adhere to, than you do

  • @RalphMariedeLargo

    but you have no idea if any god or gods even exist?

  • @RalphMariedeLargo

    thats nice. its good to see people getting along and learning to compromise..

  • @sapperbloggs... You believe the 'lie' that there is no heaven and that there is no HELL.

  • @RalphMariedeLargo

    Ironically, if there IS a heaven  and a hell, and the bible is actually true... you won't be going to heaven anyway. You're a nasty little cunt, who actually wants to see people suffer because they don't believe what you believe.

    I don't think jeebus would approve

  • @sapperbloggs Again, you the Whore of Babylon speaks about chastity. God created HELL, not me. Jesus Christ condemns you to HELL, not me. Jesus Christ commands that I believe what I believe, not me.

    I am in a state of grace with no attachment to sin promises the Church. I live my life to have the greatest hope of heaven, again promises the Church. If what the Church teaches is true, I have the greatest hope of heaven. Your unrepentant Prochoice Atheist body/ soul burns in HELL.

  • @RalphMariedeLargo

    *yawn*

    'I like your christ. I do not like your christians, they are so unlike your christ'.

    Let's face it... the point of your belief is to be more like jesus... and all you've really shown yourself to be is a b-grade troll. But keep telling yourself that you're holier than thou, if it makes you feel better.

  • @sapperbloggs Only a 'B' grade?

  • @RalphMariedeLargo

    If you were a halfway decent troll, you wouldn't post messages that are the antithesis to christianity... then go on about being christian... and expect people to actually believe you.

  • @RalphMariedeLargo

    its up to you to prove that these concepts are actual and real. otherwise, they are not real. They are simple allegory. They are stories designed to make stupid people into fearful people, and to get their money. To take power from them. These things are still happening today around the world.

    What would some god who built the universe need with a pointy building? Dum dum dum dum duuuuuum

  • @ArielDarkBlade69... I want to see you in heaven. You and I shall have our heavenly bodies then and you won't have to go on diets and worry about your weight, which Btw... you look good, maybe not perfect in your mind, but you look good.

  • stop jerking off to her vids you pervert. youre going straight to hell, and will never be able to masturbate to her heavenly body again.

  • @Pelonetillo Are you talking to me, cuz I got your message? I don't know? You talking to me muthafucker?I ask you again, are you talking to me?

  • yes bitch

  • @Pelonetillo You have all the intellectual acumen of a baboon eating its own feces. Where is there even any female here to 'jack' to? You're a fucking retard.

    O... I'm sorry for my insensitivity. I owe an apology... to the baboon.

  • shutup zebra

  • @Pelonetillo Oh... you gonna make me little boy?

  • just did loser.

  • @Pelonetillo Damn, I missed it.

  • @ArielDarkBlade69... Btw... The only real Bible is the Roman Catholic Bible.

  • @sapperbloggs

    You unrepentant Prochoice Atheist Aussie Bitch is gonna burn in HELL. And I'll be in heaven to see you wallow in inhuman pain and torment.

    You brought it on yourself Aussie Boy. Too bad, I could have meet you in heaven.

  • @RalphMariedeLargo

    'I'll be in heaven to see you wallow in inhuman pain and torment'

    Taking joy in the suffering of others? How very 'christian' of you.

    Y'know, I'm no bible scholar... but I'm pretty sure enjoying the fact that people are suffering, will kind of preclude you from heaven. Have fun in hell, fuck-o.

    'I could have meet you in heaven'

    The reason why I don't want to go to heaven, is because it's full of christian twats just like you... well... that, and it doesn't exist.

  • @sapperbloggs Okay fucking Prochoice Atheist retard, you go on believing that lie and you see where it gets you.

    Don't tell Jesus Christ that no one ever told you.

  • @RalphMariedeLargo

    Believing what lie?

    That taking joy in the suffering of others (which is what you're doing) goes against the teachings of jesus?

    Or that there's a heaven?

    If you were actually a christian, you wouldn't be posting what you're posting here.

    You'd actually know what's in the bible, live your life accordingly, not use crass profanity when talking to (or about) others, judge others, enjoy the suffering of others, etc.

    You're about as christian as Bin Laden

  • If abortion is outlawed , only the rich will be able to afford safe abortions.

    Most others will have to go to unsafe back ally abortionists.

    Where they risk dying for lack of proper procedures.

    BUT! That would cut down on the over population even more if the mother died while having her baby murdered!

    So if abortion is outlawed = we can rid the country of the evil monsters who favor murdering their own offspring!

    Less murderous monsters would be a good outcome.

  • @mrsjbs

    16yo pregnant girls who are unable and unwilling to become mothers are 'murderous monsters'? Nice.

    And what about the guys who get them pregnant?

  • @sapperbloggs Is it ok to murder if you are under a certian age?

    At what age do you think one should be held accountable for murder?

    If 16 is to young, then at what age ?

    -sapperblogs-said"And what about the guys that get them pregnant?"

    --

    I guess with your thinking = If they are 16 or under they can just murder their girlfriend,,, and problem solved!

  • @mrsjbs

    So you honestly think that getting an abortion is comparable with killing a conscious and aware human? How exactly?

    The reason why murder is wrong, is because humans are aware of their own mortality. We don't want to die. People don't seem to get too upset about switching off live support for someone who's brain-dead, which is comparable to abortion. A fetus cannot (and does not) have the awareness that a human does. It will one day, but it doesn't yet

  • @sapperbloggs SAID-'Afetus can not and does not have the awareness that a human does.It will one day, but it doesn't yet."

    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>..

    So if someone is in , say a coma, while not brain dead ,,just unaware of what is going on.

    And maybe and maybe not ever come out of it.

    Should they be killed?

    If not, then why murder an unborn baby?

    Maybe you have to be a mother to understand the love for a living unborn baby.

  • @mrsjbs

    I'm a father of a 4 month old. My wife had scans to check for genetic abnormalities etc. before he was born. If any were identified, my wife would have had an abortion. She's well aware of what having an unborn child is like

    A person in a coma is cognitively active, although not conscious. A fetus is not.

    If you don't like abortion, don't have one. But don't be so arrogant as to enforce your morality onto others, esp. when there are so many who don't see things the same way as you.

  • @sapperbloggs So if something was wrong with the baby you and your wife would have had it killed?

    Quite the loving parents!

    If nothing would have shown up on the scan and the baby was born with a defect, would you be in favor of murdering it then also?

    I pray your baby has a long and healthy life and I hope they never know that their parents would have had them killed if they were not 100% healthy before birth.

  • @mrsjbs

    My wife is a nurse, working in pediatric oncology. She works daily with children who's parents didn't get scans done, or chose not to abort. These children live extremely short lives, and are in agony the entire time. Letting them live is the crueler option. You'll be hard-pressed to find someone working in this field, who doesn't agree with pre-natal scans or medical abortions.

    Someone who has never experienced this first hand, like yourself, really wouldn't understand.

  • @sapperbloggs Not to hard pressed to find someone who works in pediatrics.

    My sister is an RN at Akron Childrens in Ohio.

    She works on the maternity ward.

    She see's the highs and lows.

    But I never heard her say it would have been better if one was never born.

  • @mrsjbs

    Maternity =/= pediatric oncology. Unless the US system is drastically different to Australia's... once the child is born, if there's something seriously wrong it's send directly to the pediatric emergency ward... not a maternity nurse's problem. They deal only with healthy babies.

    Why not spend some time in the ward where the terminally ill infants end up... then tell me that letting them live is the humane option.

  • @sapperbloggs I think the systems are the same in both countries.

    BUT, my sister does see and care for babies born with defects.

    They may not be life threatening but they are heart breaking.

    But a parent will deal with anything they have to.

    It should never be a question on should we just scrape this pregnancy because it isn't 100%.

  • @mrsjbs

    I never said 'if it isn't 100%'. If (assuming it was possible) we tested and found out our child would have diabetes, asthma, etc... of course we wouldn't terminate.

    I was talking about serious genetic defects, or something that's going to mean a child will require constant care for all of it's short and painful life. eg. Born missing organs, no skin, seriously deformed.

    Are you honestly arguing that in that case, having the child is the humane option?

  • @sapperbloggs It isn't my decision to judge who lives and who dies.

    I'm a mother , I can only love and care the best I can for my baby.

  • @mrsjbs

    ' I can only love and care the best I can for my baby'

    '...for MY baby'

    Exactly. YOU choose what is right for your child, and for yourself. Just as many others also do for themselves.

    I couldn't (and shouldn't) dictate what choices you can or can't make... and you really shouldn't dictate those same choices to others.

    My wife doesn't look down on the parents of the children she cares for... she just didn't want to be in the same situation. Best to let others choose for themselves

  • @sapperbloggs You are right about - MY - baby.

    But in the same way that I wouldn't want any child to be abused,,,I also wouldn't want to see a unborn baby killed even if it was not mine either.

  • @mrsjbs

    There's a vast difference between a newborn and a ~20 week old fetus. Given >80% of abortions occur before 10 weeks, the differences there are even greater.

    Child abuse is wrong because a child is aware of its own existence, and can suffer. A fetus (before 22-24 weeks) cannot. If you see things differently, then apply those beliefs to how you live... not to how others live.

  • sapperbloggs... Why do I wonder if you are that very happy old man?

    For an Atheist, you wouldn't know what Jesus Christ wants.

  • @RalphMariedeLargo Sorry princess, you're all out of luck. I'm not impressed by childish fag-boys... and I'm not an old man. Atheists usually have a better understanding of religion than most religious people. That's why we're atheists. Some of Jesus' teachings that may be relevant to you... John 8:7 Matthew 5:39, 5:44 Luke 6:29, 6:35 etc. etc. And a quote... 'I like your christ. I do not like your christians, they are so unlike your christ' - Gandhi Now, go troll somewhere else
  • sapperbloggs... You seem quite excited that I could come out of the closet. Sorry, boy-George, I don't date Atheists... only gerls. Btw, I see you're a Aussie, so I understand, women are scarce there, you Aussie bastards are little penis boys, and the sheep are nervous.

    Jesus Christ says you unrepentant Atheists are burning in HELL, which shouldn't be much of a change for you living in Australia. Your vid is retarded and so are you, but Jesus Christ loves you. Only God could love an Aussie.

  • @RML

    As well as projection, Freud also mentions denial. Don't worry princess, your secret's safe with me.

    As for the rest of your comment...

    You're new to trolling, aren't you? You're going to get more of a bite if you put more thought into your comments, instead of just thinking up as many childish insults as you can fit into one response.

    Gay AND childish... you'll make an old man very happy one day.

    For a follower of christ, you're doing a pretty shitty job of following christ.

  • @RalphMariedeLargo "I don't date Atheists... only gerls." I'm assuming you mean GIRLS in which case, girls(?) can be Athiest as well. I'm sure you meant Christian women however, assuming you are an adult and thus should no longer be dating girls.

    "Btw, I see you're a Aussie". AN Aussie.

    Jesus also said to gauge out your eyes if you look at a woman with lust. Have you done that?

    But my suggestion would be to learn some spelling and grammar as well as a little something about Jesus :)

  • @ArielDarkBlade69 I purposely misspell 'girls' as 'gerls' to mean, adult women. You caught my meaning, which is what I like. I also, misuse the 'an' as 'a' to give exclamation. YouTube is notorious for improper grammar and spelling, it's chic to invent one's own rules, just as long as my message is understood.

    And you, the Prochoice Atheist Bitch, is gonna tell me about Jesus Christ. What's next, the Whore of Babylon lecturing me about chastity?

  • @Ralph "gerls" still means "girls".

    using "a" as opposed to "an" just makes it look like you skipped out on 1st grade English.

    It is not "chic" to invent your own spelling or grammar rules. It makes you look like an imbecile.

    As an Atheist that had attended church no less than 2 times per week for 10 years, has read the bible through cover to cover 3 times as well as the new testament on its own 5 times and as such most likely knows more about Jesus than you do, I am going to tell you :)

  • @ArielDarkBlade69

    Remember, this is YouTube, not college. And obviously, you didn't learn shit reading the Bible because you're still 'a' Atheist. So you know that you shall burn in HELL with sapperbloggs.

    There is no way that a once, wanna-be Christian Atheist is telling a Roman Catholic boy anything about the Church and Jesus Christ.

    Btw... the King James Version is not the Bible but the Book of Lucifer.

  • @RalphMariedeLargo Well it's a good thing King James isn't the only version I've read then isn't it. And I learned plenty. I learned its a book of stories written by white men that wanted to make people easy to control

  • @ArielDarkBlade69 So Jesus Christ is a whitie male who just wants to control us? Wtf...?

    Do you know the Hail Mary Prayer? The Church authenticates that if you pray this prayer twice each day, faithfully, that our Blessed Virgin Mother Mary will bestow upon you the necessary graces for eternal life, you know, heaven.

  • @RalphMariedeLargo Yes. Because virgins give birth on the daily so it's sooo likely that happened. Or, more realistically, the "blessed virgin" was a trollop that had to come up with a good excuse why she was pregnant without a husband. Would have been quite a scandal had it not been the son of God she was impregnated with...

  • RyleyAshford... I never said that you pagan gay-boy penis Worshipers should be killed. I simply want the murder of 52 Million fellow Citizens to end. Abolish Slavery, end the Holocaust, abolish Abortion-Genocide, simple, so simple that even one of you gay-boys should be able to understand, as long as you're not distracted by another man's penis.

  • @RalphMariedeLargo

    Given the character limit, you've still managed to mention 'gay', 'boy' and 'penis' no less than 6 times. I hate to tell you this princess, but you seem a little obsessed.

    Google 'Freud Projection'... then you might feel a little more comfortable about coming out of the closet.

  • Congratultions on actually doing some research to make this video. I would mention though that if you don't want kids there's plenty of other ways. I don't know how things are in America but here most abortions are for young girls who couldn't keep their legs closed. If abortion was not an option they'd be a bit more careful.

  • @spiritfingers

    'If abortion was not an option they'd be a bit more careful'

    The evidence suggests otherwise. Ireland, where abortion is illegal, has a higher rate of teen pregnancy than many other european nations. Also, almost half of the abortions that occur worldwide occur in countries where it is illegal

    Banning abortion doesn't stop people having sex and it doesn't stop people having abortions

    I'd suggest that education and access to contraceptives would be a more successful strategy

  • @sapperbloggs I'd have to agree with your final statement. Allthough. Just because abotions happen doesn't make it right. (I can't say it's definitely wrong) As far as I'm aware nothing gives me any moral superiority over you. But in Scotland where I live Contaception is widely available and we are now educated from quite a young age but teenage pregnancys are still an issue. Ireland is very similar and I'd assume America isn't too far off the same mark.

  • @sapperbloggs Also I'd say abortion isn't the only problem. It's just another way in which people don't have to take responsibility for their actions. Even if it was impossible to get an abortion in "developed" countries. Once the baby was born it would join the thousands of babies paid for by taxpayers. Now I don't think a baby/child should have to suffer for a parents mistake but the option to ork work is too easy. And it devalues those who do work

  • @spiritfingers98

    You raise a very interesting (and relevant) point... there's a lot more at play with the abortion issue than just abortion. There's also issues of morals, social impact, and freedom of choice that need to be considered.

    BTW - I'm not american, I'm Australian. I used US stats here just because they're easier to find

  • @sapperbloggs You actually seem really intelligent. While I might not agree exactly with you're beliefs. They are based more on knowledge than ignorance or stubborness.

  • Also the arch of the covenant, the holy grail, Babylon "which is now Iraq" , Rome "which is now Italy". There is evidence, you just gotta do your studying on that. Oh and Petra, which means the heart of God. I'm glad you could do breastmilk for this long. I did it, but being a preemie she just didn't have the strength to get a lot from me, so I could only do it for about 4 months. What little bit I could give her worked though, because she got healthy fast.

  • @sapperbloggs Sperm is not a human. The life of a human begins at conception, when the sperm meets the egg.

  • @aaa333ify

    So a blastocyst (recently fertilized egg) is actually a human? Genetically, the difference between a blastocyst and a sperm is minimal. Structurally, a blastocyst is more comparable to a cancer (rapidly dividing cells) than a human.

    So please, enlighten me. What is the feature of a blastocyst that makes it definitively 'human'?

    Assertion without reason or evidence is completely pointless. If you can't back your argument with either, save yourself the effort and say nothing