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  • Doesn't Galatians 5:22-23 teaches us one of the fruits of the Spirit is self-control? I watch the clips of people supposedly speaking in tongues and there's no self-control,therefore, it isn't the Holy Spirit but a counterfeit which is from Satan.

    That is the Word of God and whoever denies it either they're teaching heresies which is a sin(like the Charismatic Movement currently is) or servants of Satan masquerading as servants of God.

  • ecxtasies ? I've not always been a Christian and those churches are like a Hawkwind concert with a bad batch of LSD .

    seriously though John MaCarthur tells the truth Charismatic IS as Satanic as Catholicism .

    JESUS CHRIST IS LORD OF ALL !

  • John. Like you, I do understand that everyone speaking in tongues aren't doing so by the power of the Holy Spirit. The word of God tells us to speak in tongues when we're alone because it only edifies ourself.(Unless there are 2 or 3 interpreters.)Then it goes on to tell us to desire to prophesy because it edifies all who hears.I find no era in your teaching because I understand the truth. I respectfully ask you to remember some may become confused because they don't understand spiritual things.

  • John, I really liked your presentations of tongue speaking and your expose on the Catholic Church but was very disappointed when you tried to take away the Sabbath that God gave to mankind. Mark 2:27, The Sabbath was made for man and not man for the Sabbath simply means that The Sabbath was made for the benefit of man because man cannot benefit the Sabbath. Jesus is Lord of the SABBATH and you know that Christ came to seek those lost, not just Jews. You mix truth with error so be warned.

  • MacArthur is right, spend time speaking the Word of God.

  • PLz brothers just take 1 min of you time and check the Tim Conway explaniation in this issue is here in you tube : Speaking in tongues Tim Conway

  • these are the same retards that clam they heal people. Take Anthony Hawkins and heal him cause he has more purpose than these fags. But then he head plants into the curve cause that nigga really cant walk. lmao lol rofl fucking fags

  • if people are doing this in your church, have the courage to quietly speak with them,..if things dont change, be vocal.. you might find yourself a leader in your own church.

  • As a former 'charasmatic' Christian, I can honestly say that many in the charasmatic movement really do want to lead people to Christ, and they are not intending to dishonor God. I truely believe that God will see their hearts and gently move those who are willing into the truth of His Word...

  • Check 1 cor 14:4 He that speaks in an unknown tounge edifies himself; but he that prophesies edifies the church.

    This was one of the verses he used, but i cant see that paul is against speaking in tongues here, likewise in vers 27-28 He doesnt say that we cant speak in tongues, he only says that we keep it between us and God if noone can translate it.

  • @surbabian These verses are not about tongues but rather this unknown tongue. The real gift of tongues greatly edified the church. The false-unknown tongue only edified the speaker in the eyes of the obervers. Rules were given that killed this false experience.

  • As someone who does speak in tongues, this garbage on the screen is ridiculous and is not led by the Holy Spirit. I speak in tongues when I am praying to God, but do not blabber about and shake like a rag doll, nor do I scream out in church, just for kicks. The problem is that people do not use the gift correctly and have brought confusion among God's people.

  • @zionrocks03 The use of this unknown tongue in private was allowed after a speaker of it in a public assembly had failed to find an interpretor. This would always be the case. This false unknown tongue practised died after this letter;1Cor. was delivered. The real gift of tongues was light years apart from what the Corinthians were doing.

  • This is why I left and among other reasons,the church I went to that practiced these things.I found out that many were speaking the same gibberish and there was never an interpretation for what was being spoken.I believe the universal church has lost it's way and is not hanging on the doctrines of Scripture but are marrying itself w/doctrines of demons.Sheep being led to the slaughter.

  • Do you realize that showing the same clips over and over in every video is seriously annoying

  • Although I believe in the biblical tongues (I don't speak it), I don't believe in most of what is going on today. I don't agree with everything this guy says either because he avoids certain verses and exagerates some things.

    He also says at 5:40 that prophet doesn't mean predicting the future but came to mean this in the middle ages. I'm sorry but all the OT prophets prophesied the future including in the NT (Acts 11:27,28).

  • @MrKattt The etymology of the word "prophet" will tell you that it means "one who speaks for someone." It had nothing to do with describing foretelling the future until the middle ages, just like MacArthur said. He's not denying that the OT prophets foretold future events, he said that the meaning of the word didn't take on that connotation until the middle ages, which is what you will find in a quick search of the word "prophet" to discover its history.

  • none of this insanity is biblical for any believer.

  • Speaking in tongues is a sign for unbelievers as well as a gift that is beneficial for the edification of individual believers and the church as a whole when an interpreter is present. Read 1 Corinthians chapter 14 for yourselves and ask the LORD to reveal it to you according to your measure of faith.......remember that GOD opperates in an orderly manner, not a chaotic one.

  • Wikipedia Defines prophecy as: A prophecy is the message that has been communicated to a prophet which the prophet then communicates to others. Such messages typically involve divine inspiration, interpretation, or revelation of events to come.

  • Now if there is an interpreter present, speaking in tongues coupled together with interpretation equals a word of prophecy that has the potential to edify the church. What is being said by the person speaking in tongues may just be personal praise to GOD. Nevertheless, praise does edify.

  • Clarification: At 1:18 up to 1:22 john macArthur says that the apostle paul said that tongues can not edify, this is incorrect. Paul wrote, in 1 Corinth. 14:4, that he who speaks in an unknown language edifies himself. Speaking in tongues, or unknown languages, does edify the believer on an individual level. However, it is more beneficial for the church that a believer prophesy rather than speak in tongues.

  • @ChristRevolutionary But what many people don't realize is that we are never admonished to edify ourselves, we are admonished to CRUCIFY our flesh, not exalt it above others. What Paul meant was that he that speaks in a language is boasting and promoting himself above others. "Hey, look at me! I can speak a language that I never learned nor studied!" was the attitude that Paul was addressing.

  • @BruhDawg "Pride goes before destruction, and a haughty spirit before a fall. Better to be of a humble spirit with the lowly, than to divide the spoil with the proud." Proverbs 16:18-19

  • well... cant say we didnt see it coming.

    thr church is so corrupted, the only pastors we know we can trust are the ones who stick to scripture and not their own mind.

    somebody needs to run up in these corrupt churches and overthrow their evil like Jesus did in the synogauge.

  • Satan is moving in these churches and Demons are all over these services. The Bible has warned us about this.........more is coming.

  • The amazing thing about the gospel is that JESUS died for our sins. The scribes at that time knew the scriptures better than anyone. The only problem was that they couldn't see JESUS for who he was. The problem we have today is that most people would rather convince someone else that their opinion matters and its correct. But don't forget JESUS! JESUS as he was hanging on a cross for our sins said "Father forgive them for they know not what they do".

  • @777Godhelpus , i agree with you 100%. our job on this planet is to bring everyone as we can to jesus and that is our only job. spending time trying to be right with everyone doesnt always meet our objective of promoting jesus. we can win the battle but lose the war if we need to be right all the time.

  • Indeed Paul said in 1 corinthians 14:18 "I thank God that I speak in tongues more than all of you." But he also said in verse19 "But in the church I would rather speak five intelligible words to instruct others than ten thousand words in a tongue." My advice for all is to read the 1 corinthians chapter 12, 13, and 14 for full understanding

  • 1 corinthians12:30"Do all have gifts of healing? Do all speak in tongues[d]? Do all interpret?" That a rethorical question with a simple answer, no Also

    1 corinthians 14:5I would like every one of you to speak in tongues,[c] but I would rather have you prophesy. He who prophesies is greater than one who speaks in tongues,[d] unless he interprets, so that the church may be edified. Don't cut off part of the verse to serve your own purpose

  • @Seekers;-)

    NEW Tongues are Also used as a PRAYER LANGUAGE to God! 1 Cor 14:2,4He that SPEAKS (Laleo-means to Speak, Sing,Pray, Laugh Cry,or Groan) in an Unknown Tongue Speaks NOT unto MEN,but UNTO GOD: for No man Understands him;howbeit in the Spirit he Speaks Mysteries(Divine Counsels of God) And EDIFIES (Teaches and ENERGIZES) Himself!

    1 Cor 14:5 I would that You All Spoke with Tongues!

    1 Cor 14:18 I thank my God, I Speak with Tongues More Than You ALL!

    Yes! NEW TONGUES are for ALL!

  • When I observe a gathering of people who ARE RECEIVING the Presence of the Spirit of God I usually think about what Happened in the Old and New Covenant when the Presence of Yahweh Manifested on or near the people?

    What will His Presence do to PEOPLE if it shakes Mountains as with Moses?

    AND cause Observers on the Day of Pentecost to Mock saying, These men are Full of New Wine?Revilers?

    Causes King Saul to change into another man, prophesy and LAY down all day and night? (1 Samuel 19)

  • why arent you expounding and explaining...v4he who speaks in an unknown tongue EDIFIETH himself..... how can pagan jibberish edify you???

  • MacArthur's interpretation is clearly wrong. If Paul says they are speaking pagan mysteries, Paul would not say, "I would that ye all spake with tongues."

  • You obviously can't read 5th grade english, 1 Cor. 14:1-12

  • Who are you referring to?

  • @SaudaraLink No, he's putting toungues into perspective. He clearly sates that you should NOT stop persuing gifts.

    Love is the underlying motivation, concern for our relationship with God & how we relate to others. Tongues is an easy thing to fake - Fellowship is more mundane, it involves edification of others (and yourself).

  • @SaudaraLink listen around 4:00-4:40. Listen.

  • why do you call yourself a catholic christian.. we are to be christ followers all one in Christ - 1 corinthians 1:12 - that is not the work of the holy spirit which causes division Christ. the bible says we are to have upbuilding conversations with one another.. its not the only thing but the most important as we are vessels of God used to preach his word.

  • You should be ashame and afraid to even list your comments ref to 1 Cor 14:21 & Isa 28:11. Neither does it make any sense.

  • Is the last few seconds of each section intended as an insult to Catholic Christians? Of course all Christians need the power of pentecost in their lives.

  • The only purpose of the church is edifiication? What about Praise? What a bout Petition?

  • @pharmfarm59538 Praise doesn't simply mean tongues.

  • Its amazing that so many are unable to eat meat, rightly dividing the scripture's to them is a sign of unspirtuality, they look to sign's and wonder's instead of the Word of God and the Gospel of Jesus Christ, if these guyz have the HolySpirit as they claim why dont they go and empty hospitals instead of holding show's to make big money? How come when ppl from these denominations become missionarys they need to study to learn language's?

  • if those who understood the language were making sense of the gibberish, that would be (a confused) interpretation gift, and that also would come with the Spirit, which apparently they were not taking part in until they were baptised in it? the whole thing is backwards, and some of these things actually border on suggestion! seriously, it's not convincing of the conscious with suggestion, but for instance look at the woman that gets the hand placed on her shoulder - common reaction to such!

  • lol @ 1:10... dude acts like his hair is on fire...

    but no, he's not trashing the gifts of the Spirit - there are more gifts than just speaking in other languages...

    if it was just gibberish that no one could understand, why does it say "and yet for all that they would not hear me"? which is more miraculous? speaking gibberish or speaking actual other languages, like the Apostles at Pentecost, while those who didn't understand the language had said "they must be drunk!"?

  • You people are just too blind to see ... leading the blind to the ultimate ditch.

  • Wake up, there is no such tongues worth pursuing..this is not the Holy Spirit, it is the Devil in the disguise of God at work!!!!

  • AMEN

    gibberish and emotional acting up.

    if yu believe that it is an important gift why wouldnt you want to have it too? if your denomination believes that its important than you have to adopt it just to fit in.

    God is orderly

  • In the law it is written, With [men speaking gibberish and w/ unintelligent lips] will I speak unto this people; and yet for all that will they not hear me, saith the Lord. -- 1Cor14:21

    Now, what is the problem? A half true is a full lie ... Paul is only teaching true believers (tongue talkers) how to exhort when the church is assembled for worship. This was no manifesto against speaking in tongues. That's simple. An expert on tongues without having the experience, how? BLIND GUIDES!

  • What is sad to me is that instead of being led by the Spirit we are led by intellectual minds that say tongues have ceased and emotional minds who take the gift far beyond the edge and makes bad name for God. We who are led by the Spirit are the children, and tongues, prophesying, and any other gift will not cease until we see Jesus face to face (1 Cor 13:8-12) forsake the wisdom of the wise and the emotion of the senual and be ye drunk with the Spirit and He will lead ALL OF US into ALL truth.

  • I know that there are many comfusing tongues but you sound so extreme as if there are not right ones. It is a matter edification and glourification to God. Tongue edifies the one that speaks

  • That's just the extreme cases. Not every charismatic church looks like that. I still have not seen any proof that modern glossolalia is of God, but not all charismatic churches go crazy like that. Try the ABC Nightline video on speaking in tongues.

  • False tongue talkers don't realize they are possessed by the devil and they don't want to know so GOD will give you over to strong delusion to believe a LIE. satan has decieved you for 100 + years, a secret ya'll kept in the dark until TBN dressed it up in benny SINN & creflo BALLAR & juanita BUYSUM, td FAKES & joel GOLDstein.

    CHRIST says in REVELATION to COME OUT OF BABYLON = CONFOUNDED TONGUES and recieve not of HER PLAGUES.

    Modern day tongues are false and from satan. Period

  • TRUE gift of tongues was permenant so, if Im given GIFT to speak in GREEK & Im at Synagogue on the Sabbath & began to speak in my GIFTED TONGUE of GREEK among Hebrews THEN I am ONLY speaking (praying) unto GOD who created all languages of the EARTH & other Hebrews dont understand unless given interpreter. NO tongue of baal. GOD is ORDER

  • "Paul, an apostle—sent not from men nor by man, but by Jesus Christ and God the Father, who raised him from the dead" Galatians 1:1

    Peter confirms Paul's statement calling his letters Scripture (2 Peter 3:16)

    How is anyone about to refute anything Paul wrote? It's Scripture. And "All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness" 2 Timothy 3:16

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    Benny Hinn's best knockouts

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    Todd Bentley kicks woman in the face

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  • That's fine, keep it to yourself and God.

    1 Corinthians 14:28-29 (NIV)

    If anyone speaks in a tongue, two--or at the most three--should speak, one at a time, and someone must interpret. If there is no interpreter, the speaker should keep quiet in the church and speak to himself and God.

  • So true.

    Amen.

  • The term "unknown" added by KJV translators and Paul did not say it.

    No one has EVER heard an angel speak. Every time angels speak in bible they spoke in language of person addressing

    Tongue of Angels = gift to speak every language on earth of which Paul had ability more than "ye all"

    Tongues Men = 2 to 3 languages common in Pauls day: Aramaic, Hebrew Greek

  • CAPS don't equal needing attention or that I think in that makes my argument enhanced. Sounds like you have issues with logic. The topic of hte message was speaking in tongues, not running around like chickens. I never said it brought anyone closer to the most high, but neither does the lying and distortion that this man is doing., You may be sorry indeed, but I don't need your sympathy so save it 4 YOU! I'm sorry that you THINK YOU ARE A PSYCHOLOGIST or a PSYCHIC! LOL. I don't CARE IF U LISTEN

  • WONDAWOMAN, you go girl. I am not sure what your argument is...but you go! I have listened to nearly the entire 22 entries and you would agree that before we judge anyone messages we should certainly hear their own message...i have listened to other messages he has given and what is clear is that he does not a lot of time with opinionated teaching...note the careful presentation of the scriptures as well as the CONTEXT as per the time and audience to whom Paul was speaking!

  • 6.Tongues NEVER INTENDED FOR EDIFICATION?

    * OK, So according to Corinthians 14:4- on;

    He that speaketh in an UNKNOWN tongue EDIFIETH HIMSELF;.. For I WOULD THAT YE ALL SPAKE W/TONGUES, rather that ye prophesied, for greater he that prophesieth than he that speaketh with tongues EXCEPT HE INTERPRET, that the assembly may receive EDIFYING. I suggest reading the passage for yourself. You won't find 90% of the assertions that this lying man makes in the passages. I cant stand LIARS!! DON'T B TRICKED

  • I have been praying for the Truth to be shown to me. I am trying to keep an open and teachable spirit which is what being humble means. Now my whole teaching by the Pentecostal church has been opened wide and I am finding a lot of wrong teaching there. I have found that we are to compared everything we are taught to the Word of God that way we are not mislead. I cry for those that are beguiled and mislead! The Word says we are to STUDY to show ourselves approved..

  • LindaLinda, my bg is both Church of Christ who does not believe in Speaking in tongues and Apostolic so I understand both sides of the coin, but I have never heard the type of distortion that this man is doing on the subject. They don't twist it and lie like this man is doing, but they believe that which is perfect is come so tongues have passed away ( wrong interpretation..but ya know) If you are seeking truth, Yah WILL lead & guide you. I will share some pretty good videos with you too.

  • Hi Wondawoman. I like MacAurther but I also listen and follow along in my bible to many, many other teachers of the WORD. I am not into religion but the Word of God. Proverbs 1:5 A wise man will hear, and will increase learning; and a man of understanding shall attain unto wise counsels: Prove them by the Word. God bless. Lin

  • If you read letters like Romans and Gal you will see Paul's sarcastic side (ex Gal 3:1), But what is actually your issue with what the teacher is saying? That babbling is wrong? Do you honestly believe that God wants us to babble...the word tongue is literally translated language: NT:1100 glossa (gloce-sah'); of uncertain affinity; the tongue; by implication, a language (specially, one naturally unacquired): this Greek definition is for the verse you referred to (vs 4).

  • My problem is his outright distortion of the account of Corinthians... you may as well call it lying because he is. Instead of reading Corinthians like he should and you reading it, like you should.. so that all will know what it does or not say, he reads pcs. Brings the Zulus in, says things were going on in the service that Paul never says were going on, adds some extra stuff that isn't there, leaves some things out that are.. in order to fit his agenda. This man's mind was made up already

  • hischild33 is right it was only used because it needed to be to spread the gospel. Not for babbling usage that is for other religions (satan's) and so is repetitive prayer. Remeber all wicked generations in the Bible are of people who were seeking signs and wonders and that could lead the elect astray. Matt 24:24 also read 1 Peter 5:8.

  • You know, this man can't convince me of anything, because;

    1. His line of logic is flawed.

    2. He will not once read the chapters and verses in full & allow you to hear EXACTLY what it says regarding tongues, but continues to give you HIS SYNOPSIS on what it is saying.

    3. Having READ CORINTHIANS for MYSELF, I can hear it dead on when he lies and distorts the passages.

    4. Corinthians DOES NOT SAY that tongues are pointless.

    5. It says that if there is no interpreter U edify YOURSELF.

  • HEAR ME ONCE AND HEAR ME CLEARLY...okay you ready? EVERY SINGLE PROTESTANT CHURCH that exist today in their denominations INCLUDING BAPTISTS, PRESPBYTERIANS, CALVINISTS, LUTHERANS, PENTECOSTALS, JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES, have their bg and influence from ROMAN CATHOLICISM. Some have abandoned SOME of the RC doctrines, but still keep the pagan SUNDAY as their supposed Sabbath & keep its pagan feasts, but ABANDON the laws of YHWH. That does not mean tongues are of Satan. But many of the doctrines are.

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