I think the video was more to do with the shift in attitde of America towards potential threats over the last couple generations. It's been a while since I saw the video, but I believe my rough interpretation was that his country was allowing itself to be ruled by fear - I don't think he's necessarily saying that the Iranians should have nukes, and I highly doubt he would advcate theocracy. Hell, if he did, he would cease to be my voice so fuck him.
@antekification. According to amnsety international hamas is responsible for more palestinian deaths than israel in the past decade. Muslims kill more muslims than any foreign power ever has. Missed your critcism of iran killing peaceful protestors. Seems a bit bigoted.
@battim Why are you lying? Generally, look at the death statistics for Israelis and then look at the same numbers for Palestinians. Only in the Gazawar IDF killed 1100-1300 palestinians, most of them where civilians, most of them were children.
@antekification amnsesty and fatah claim over 17000 have been executed.killed by hamas. The excute homosexuals and alduterers without trial. You ignore fatah? They are palestinians. Nice try.
@battim Why did you ignore my info? Did you check the death statisic? If you hate one side because they kill, you might want to dig deep into what Israel does. May I ask where you are from? America?
@battim you do really good work and I think you make really great points. I disagree with you about one thing...I don't think the "amazing Atheist" is that bright (And I'm an Atheist myself) I think he is just a loud mouth who is trying hard to be Penn Jillette. Keep up the good work.
@battim - Battim you chat so much bullshit man, where do you get your sources from FOX NEWS i guess. Go and get a life dude, stop spreading artificial facts to people.
@Musiclegends100 dear idiot. Please name an artificial fact. I have done many videos bashing fox news and their bullshit. Your straw man tactics only show you have nothing of merit to say....faceless trolls with no courage to do videos themselves. You are among them
racism? i love how when anyone disagree with someone, they must be racist. silliness. persians are amongst the most miitant folks in history. period. shiites are as well. i guess the eight year war and all the persian wars in history eleuded your reading list. lol.
racism? i love how when anyone disagree with someone, they must be racist. silliness. persians are amongst the most miitant folks in history. period. shiites are as well. i guess the eight year war and all the persian wars in history eleuded your reading list. lol.
racism? i love how when anyone disagree with someone, they must be racist. silliness. persians are amongst the most miitant folks in history. period. shiites are as well. i guess the eight year war and all the persian wars in history eluded your reading list. lol.
@battim The Eight year war was in defensive to Saddam attacking them.
To educate someone of your ilk is very frustrating, your video is full of falsehoods, misconceptions and a narrow minded belief system.
Coupled with the low volume and the lighting this has to be the most irritating video on YouTube. Furthermore, as a Christian I realize that my own religion is full of crap and has committed atrocities against humanity but you wish to overlook that little fact and attack other religions.
I believe you should get educated and get your facts straight and then come back and put a video together as of this point in time you are nonsensical and juvenile in your thinking process.
the facts are straight. its a theocracy that implements religious rule and violates human rights. onyl thing juvenile is ignoring the murders of dozens of protestors and jailing of ore simply for speaking their minds. but keep supporting autocracy and human rights violators.
@MACKATTACK1970. Facts are you support an autocratic theocracy in iran. No more no less. Enjoy supporting the murder of gays and women in the name of god. Good boy.
Do you realize that I am a Christian and I prefer to listen to people like 'The amazing Atheist' purely because he has intelligence and you have ignorance. Listening to Ignorant people, narrow minded people and buffoons is frustrating. You Sir fall within all of those subgroups.
i could really care less what religion you are. amazing atheist has on many occasions went after the theocracy of iran. narrow minded? have you read what the ayotollah has written? the onyl one with a narrow mind is a person who doesnt see an autocratic theocracy violating human rights daily. you, fall within the catagory of naieve and supprt theocracies who subjugate women and kill protestors. have at it.
@battim ----- Here we go, you are standing up for those poor women in Iran and are against an autocratic theocracy violating human rights. You must feel like a superman or an angel sent by god almighty himself to save humanity.
Of course you fail miserably to see that we support many dictators and governments that violate human rights of their citizens as long as they are either beneficial to us or are too strong to attack.
Your juvenile belief system is equal to a 12 year old. Grow up!
oh the silly personal attacks based on absolutely nothing. e-psychology always makes me giggle. so in your world standing up against oppression is a bad things and sitting quiet while it happens is a good thing. in your world if someone speaks up about atrocities it somehow must be guided b god? silliness. you fail miserably at not watching my body of work and seeing how i have condemned the west for supporting autocracies worldwide. but of course you fail to see that. you fail at alot.
iran is a proxt support to two organizations attacking israel on a regular basis. they also supply arms to rebels in iraq fighting againt the iraqi democracy.
As for the paranoia, well a lot of it is a mass form of Posttraumatic stress disorder, and many are also, to some extent, suffering from a rude awakening. Work, good time, tv and movies tend to binker people to the outside world but when it is thrown in their face they can only look at it as an object they have never seen before and use what they know to describe it even if they have trouble understanding it.
It is not as much of a Democracy as it was before 1953 though much more than it had been for a long since 1953. I always found the newborn Christian belief in being taken away the moment before their concept of Armageddon pretty worrying. One must always becareful of tribal Fairytales, and remember that those living in it will not see it as easy as those viewing it from outside.
americans who think that iran is seriosuly going to nuke anywhere are retarded..... iran has too many enemies and not enough allies to sustain a decent offense on any country. not to mention the country itself is alreayd in shambles because of the elections. dont get your lil head all worked up
the military isnt controlled by the emam's, its controlled by the emam's AND the clerics.... which is "basically" like senators and the house of reps in a way.
in my opinion theres no real reason to worry. iran has no real allies, so if they decided to bomb israel or america or uk or france or WAHTEVER they would be decended upon in a mere few months or maybe even weeks and be taken over. i think its safe to say that they just need it for self defense.
Nuclear weapons in the hands of the mullahs would be the most dangerous combination since the dawn of the nuclear age -- a nuclear-armed state heading and supplying a number of anti-Western terrorist organizations--including Hezbollah, Hamas and the Qad which fought the US in Iraq--all led by religious zealots who think war is necessary to bring about the second coming of their prophet.
Point here, a nuclear Iran would be a serious threat to Israel, to Iran, AND to world peace in general.
There is nothing in the Kuran that says we should kill dude trust me..i am muslim i have read it..i understand it..if i go out and kill someone because they are not muslim or w.e reason..then im going to go to hell! those people are radicals..
no no the translations are not correct..arabic is such a powerful language it cannot be translated..i know arabic turkish and english..and when i translate it doesnt sound the same trust me..
then why do so many muslims who speak arabic translate it the same way? why is it that so many believe violence is part of the dogma, you know, that speak arabic natively?
first of all before you say anything of the kuran you need to read up on it..because their is nothing in there that talks about viloence..dumbass people came up with that shit..i dont understand how they can judge a holy book without even reading it..doesnt that sound a little stupid?
I was just making sure you were spreading the hate of theology evenly. As for Iran having nukes, it is VERY hypocritical for us in the states to dictate who can have them and who can not. It is very simple, we tell Iran; "Go ahead have your nukes. However, if a nuke detonates in ANY western nation, then we will not hesitate, nor investigate. Tehran will be reduced to rubble and human potash." I can't believe the only country to EVER use nukes on a civilian population can tell others what to do.
well you are making out of context metaphors. the tiny little bombs we used in japns are cap guns compared to what can be nleashed today (and it is decidely not the winding down of the most violent conflict in history either). japan attacked the united states. it was not our aggression that caused us to use them.
My metaphor was not out of context. We used nukes on civilians; the ONLY nation to ever do so. Some historians point out again and again that Japan was on the brink of collapse. Using the nukes was for our world power agenda. Show the russians what we can do and put them in their place. We do not possess they authority to DICTATE to anyone on the possession of nukes. I don't care who you are. Murder is murder, and we killed thousands of innocents those two days. This nation is full of Hypocrits.
actually most civilians were gone. both of these cities saw mass exdous after firebombing on industrial targets. as for japans being on the brink of collapse, some historians also felt that japan would have fought until every last person was dead. using the nukes was to make a point i agree, mostly to the soviets. one wa'nt good enough, two showed them we had more. murder is not murder, again, japan and germany were imperislaizing the world, i supoose you'd suggest we sit back?
And we are not going for imperialization now? Are you kidding me? We are occupying two countries. The U.S. Great Britain and the European Union are telling the rest of the world to be just like them. Our standards are held superior over the rest of the world. That is Imperialism. But since we do it it is ok. How long was Great Britain in charge of the known world? How about French colonialism? The west is just as guilty of being Imperialists as anyone else.
you love to put words in people mouths based on a singular persepctive. every large power does what it can to ensure the self interest of their poplace, its how they remain in power. i will say at least the west and the modern east believes people shouldn't be treated as property as islam does. i would say the modern ideals of pluralism are better than the stone aged world of islam. you apparently would not. perspective. the victors get to decide what right and wrong, not some ideal.
Oh have you ever been to a Baptist wedding. It states in the vows, the woman is the property of the man. I am through arguing with you. You are completly biased towards a western form of thought. Again Good day.
you are right. i am biased towards self government, human rights, individual rights and against child rape and slavery. you seem to think slavery and child rape are ok so long as it their culture. you seem to think its ok to do those things based on some relativistic apporaoch to mankind. one group has given rights and changed wealth distribution for the better. islam has made the rich super rich and mired a the majority is filthy poverty.
as for baptist weddings, its illegal in america to own a human. secular law is above silly religious rhetoric. in islam its law. you dont see the difference because you are biased toward islam thinking someone its the moral equivalent to plurality. baptists are such a tiny fraction of christians. bad metaphor, again.
You are putting words in my mouth. I NEVER once said Islam is right. You can talk that shot all you want. I never said Islam is better. What I said is there is duplicity and derision on BOTH sides.
well you seem to think it hold equal footing with pluralism. you said i have a bias toward enlightened principles, as to say you did not have that bias. in other words you seem to think its all relative.
However, there's a part of religion called "manners" or "akhlagh" in Arabic, and you're not really supposed to use chinese or Arabic words if your talking in English for example because then, its easy for everyone to get confused but that what many ppl do- on top of labelling themselves as Muslims(means going to heaven) often as an excuse to not have to try hard cause they're saying they're automatically good enough same as the white nazis who wont stop attacking Jesus's country.
U should learn more and more, but I hope u will b guided. PS Allah just means God and no matter how close to perfect the religion is, i guess theres always ppl everywhere who find every way imaginable to twist it and distort it in order to exploit other ppl. For example, in my opinion the biggest wrong thing that n e one can do in Religion is labelling/judging urself as "muslim", thats called Shirk. It's the same as saying i'm white like a snowflake with no blemish (figuratively), superior.
Against infidels. Those that proffess to be a christian, jew of muslim but in fact do so to deceive. Lay your hands on the infidels and kill them. The bible says the same things. You know there are Christian terrorists in this world as well. Scott Roeder, Eric Rudolph, and a number of the killers of abortion doctors.
oh but the scales are not the same. there are socialist terrorists as well. the bottoms line is, in recent decades muslims have for outpaced all other forms of terror combined.
And the bombing of hospitals and refugee camps in Palestine is not a form of terror? Terrorism; the systematic use of terror especially as a means of coercion. Any form of military destruction for political reasons can be labeled terrorism. Every political, theological and other ideological systems has used violence to force coersion of an enemy, so there for it can be labeled as terrorism.
any more than the bombing of israeli citizens? nope. its called war. both sides have their share of killing innocents in the name of whatever self interest motivates them. you seem to think that one side is better than the other. Terrorism has been defined as violence by a non nation state. regardless, keep seeing the world as fixable and you like marx and engels before you will die dissapointed.
That definition is not the original. The definition refering to a non nation state is a fairly modern one. The definition I posted was from 1795 in the Merriam webster book. Did I say the world can be fixed? No it can't because of myopic views of the world in all classes and cultures. My God is bigger than yiour God. My ideas are superior to your ideas, so on and so forth.
when referring to terroism in context geopolitically it is defined as i have defined it. you love out of context positions. in 1795 most of the world beleived slavery was ok too? wanna go back to the defintion of equal rights too from 1795? lol. competition is literally built in us. the fact you are spouting your belief systems means you are just as guilty as they you whine about. amazing how you whine about others as you belt out self indignation. hypocrites calling out hypocrites. lol
You can say they are out of context all you want does not make it so. Yeas ands geopolitics are are set, for the most part by western powers. As far as reffering to me as a whiner, nice to bring in name calling. I never said you were a hypocrit, did I? If you wish to devolve into childish labels go right ahead. I think you are just getting a litle frustrated at my responses to your form of logic.
its all out of context, you are making historical metaphors that don't fit. godwins law. human activity especially on large scale group dynamics are very complex. you keep trying to make metaphors that don't fit. you are whining about america while you speak under the very freedom it affords you. its not childish to call someone a whiner when they complain while living and taking advantage of all the imperialism thwy whine about. you are on the internet, a product of the us military.
certainly go back and read your comments. you certainly criticized american policies. oyu may have criticized the other side too, but are you saying you aren't criticizing their duplicity while swimming in the luxuries those duplicities afford you?
I am trying to point out that ALL sides are hypocrits, marching along throughout the bloody history of mankind. Islam is no worse than radical Christianity, or Judaism. for god sakes the Talmud says if one is not a jew, he should be killed. Every single social and political construct can only thrive in an Us versus Them mentality.
actually islam, today, is worse. in pluralisitic societies if one wishes not to be part of the fundemental religions you speak of, they can walk away, in islamic states they are forced by law to still live their lives that way. thats the difference. many jews are atheists. they don't follow the talmud. comparing 14 million jews to 1.6 billion muslims is silly. even if every jew was fundementalist (they are not) it would pale in comparison. christians in america are jailed for violence.
As are muslims in their countries if they break the law. Are you saying that ALL muslims are terrorists? There are by far more moderates in Islam then radicals. If all 1.6 Billion wanted to kill us, I think they might have already done that.
actually no. honor killings and violence against women are glorified and legal in muslim states. they are illegal here. its illegal to fuck a nine year old here, its legal in islamic states. if moderates outnumber radicals in islam, why do radicals run everything? they couldnt do that, it would mean the rapid end to islam as they know it. they can't compete, biggest reason is, their stine aged ideology.
The scales are not the same. True. I don't think that islamic terrorists have been able to kill more than a hundred thousand people in the past eight years like the US military has.
again false metaphor. one is a nation state, the other not so much. its apparent as well you see the world in the same way folks like george bush does, as good vs bad as opposed to the realistic self interest vs self interest. its called human nature. self rightwous indignation won't change that.
in other words...lol. a jew and a christian are ok so long as they follow islam. lol. and what of all the non abrahamic religious, they must die under islamic law. that said, it seems to me you think its ok to kill infidels. funny coming from the guy running around calling folks hypocrites.
A who is using false statements? I never said that killing infidels was right. As far as George Bush is concerned I would not piss on him tro put him out. I don't see the world as black and white. I think you should read ALL the way through my comments before putting words in my mouth.
i said your statememtn seem to qualify islams stand on infidels. it doesn't. you certainly seem to be saying things are an evil/good paradigm like bush does. there is no such things as evil/good. those are social norms we agree upon, doesn't make them "truth"
Iran invented freedom, saved humanity/Europe on at least two occasions from literally getting raped bigtime(from Mongols especially, & turks)all the while ur "white" leaders never stopped trying to do slavery, punishing the best and brightest of their own ppl based on "nice guys finish last" concept, and attacking the middle east, as a way to have control over world trade while empowering other nation's criminals.
this is nwo fear mongering. america has enough nukes to blow up the planet three times. the elites are angry because ahmadinejad doesn't want to do business with the imf. i find it ironic that those who push this bs in the media are those who make the weapons.
and i'm glad ron paul has a chance in 2012, dump israels' ass and grow some hemp. we don't need israel and we don't need to be in the middle east. any conflict? not our damn business.
Funniest thing you've said so far is suggesting that unlike Iran, the people of the United States actually control their military. I don't think there's much hope for you.
What's the difference between Iran having nuclear capabilities and the U.S. or Israel having them? How many countries has the U.S. invaded, vs Iran? How many countries has Israel invaded, vs. Iran? You mentioned that in Iran, the military isn't controlled by the people............you actually think it is here in the U.S.?
Ahmadinejad is funding three proxy wars at the moment two against Israel via Hamas and Hezbollah and one against the US in Iraq.
Moreover, Ahmadinejad has repeatedly threatened not only Israel with destruction, but he also repeatedly warned the US and the UK of grave consequences.
Ahmadinejad has not threatened Israel with destruction. That was media hype. You can find what he actually said on YouTube. You'll see how the media, as well as our government, twisted his words to mean something they didn't. That's old news.
So what if he's funding Hamas or Hezbollah? We're funding the Israeli government, who have committed more crimes against humanity, broken more UN resolutions than its neighboring countries, combined.
he is funding terrorist groups, thats illegal. funding a government is not. of course you dont see the difference, you are blind to radical islams evil. i guess you agree with 911 attacks. that makes you no better than him.
Sorta how the U.S.; which I am a natural born citizen of, propped up Sadaam in the 1980's and funded a proxy war with Iran. Then we turned around and secretly gave Iran weapons to fund the war in Central America against the sandinistas. My god do you not watch or read any kind of news or history books? We threaten countries all the time with sanctions followed by threats of violence. Duplicity, duplicity.
its called playing both sides. the societs did the same thing during the eight year war. its not duplicity, its realpolitick, as long as everyone is fighting there remains one superpower. its how the game is played, always has been always will be.
mechelle why lie and say i censored your comments? the us and israel are not theocracies advocating genocide. china and russia agree with us. the EU agrees. noone in the international community besides freaks like chavez support him. enjoy supporting theofascist regimes. great right wing stance.
"i guess you agree with 911 attacks. that makes you no better than him."
Why do you do that?
Why do you take the fact that I stated that Iran's leader didn't say he was going to wipe Israel off the map, which has been backed up by professional Farsi interpretors, and political science and linguistic scholars.....and then create a strawman fallacy with that by equating THAT with some bullshit that I agree with 911 attacks?
Just a quick question Mahmood42978, I've been reading this forum and I need to clarify an issue. Are you actually suggesting that once married, a woman has no rights to refuse the sexual advances of her husband, and if she does, he can forcefully have sex with her?
Please tell me you aren't.
PS. There is a huge difference between implied consent and unconsenting. I suggest you read up on it before making previous allegations.
In the SANE world, Marriage is a contractual agreement for conjugal rights with your spouse. Unless the act itself can lead to known harm,then there is to refuse conjugal relations is a breach of that agreement . However, the husband commit violence against his wife to have relations.
in implied consent, there's a HUGE grey area, if she originally agrees but then changes her mind just immediately prior to climax
So no in fact what you're doing is giving a blank check to false rape accusations.
Ok so it's NOT about fear, but it's about people who have beliefs that are a threat to yours, being able to yield power in the region over something you have financial stakes in.
And of course Ahmadinejad and Khamaanei are batshit crazy for believing in the "Muslim Messiah" conspiracy theory
But your average Republican and Zionist lobby in America who legislate Middle Eastern Policy believing in the Rapture and Battle of Armegeddon is CLEARLY the sane move.
Nope <ahmood not at all, you love Ahmadinacrap believes in killing Jews to bring the 12 prophet. Christians dont have a doctrine which dictates murder.
Do you see christians breading suicide bombers? Do you hear modern churches proffesing murder? I see muslim suicide bombers, and I hear teaching of murder in the moders islam. I wish that teaching murder in islam was a history as it is in the history of christianity. So dont bullshit me.
I see christian rapists, mass murderers, invaders of other people's country, exploiters, destroyers of the environment, committers of abortion (aka baby killing)
mass muders, you mean like 9/11, or the mass graves with hundereds of thousands of people in iraq? or the 400,000 christians slaughtered in somalia? or the tens of thousands killed in teh aceh region in indonesia...oh thats right...that was muslims. btw, name one christian religion that advocate abortion moron.
Battim, your accuracy about the idea that rape is legal in Iran, when no official document states legality of rape. Brings into question lot of other things you state
let's not forget the 700,000 + Iraqis who have died as a result of the War their. 30,000 Afghans to invade their country
The United States has it legal right? The Popular religion is Christianity right?
Case closed
the legality of Baby murder is the biggest stain any christian majority nation can never undermine
marital rape is legal. that is a fact. it is illegal for a woman to charge her husband with rape in iran. you can ignore facts. when did i ever claim the us had a legal right to invade iraq? where, when, ever? that has nothing to do with what we are talking about, that is known as triangulation. as for baby murder...well...killing an eight cell organism is murder dont scratch your arm or you'll kill thousands of human cells...
are you kidding me? The marriage contract is a legal contract for sexual relations, not some predator lurking in the shadows pouncing on a victim or sucj
now you're talking like a liberal
I'm not here to claim that you claimed this, I claimed under the sanction of a majority christian nation, with a christian president giving the orders
the cells from scratching your arm is not an "organism", they're facultative cells of an organism. a Zygote is a human organism
you are a fucking moron. you are now advocating if a women says no then the man can take the sex. you are adovocating rape. thats not liberal you sexist, rape condoning asshole. a zygote is not a human organism, it cannot live outside the womb.
You;re a double talker, first you peddle conservative geopolitics, but then ride on LIBERAL feminist sociopolitics? You're thinking like a commie. When you get married you say "I do". It means you already agreed for a sexual relationship
A zygote is a human organism, what is the DNA of a zygote? The combination of two human parents, What is the zygote doing? growth and development of it's organ systems, just as humans.
Living outside of the womb is not a prerequisite for deciding species
so by YOUR explanation, why wouldn't a husband who already penetrated his wife before she acknowledged acceptance, not be considered rape?
according to your explanation it's NON-consensual intercourse right? And technically the wife never approved of the initial penetration.
Ok here's ANOTHER question, you and your wife are in congress and you're about to achieve climax, and then suddenly says "No, get out of me", if you continue, is that rape?
3) Lol no, most of us don't conform to your mysogeny.
We do prosecute, and one day it will happen to you :)
Even back home in Riyadh the scholars, after reading medical literature showing that marital rape harms women both physically and mentally began to state that marital rape is against sharia law. Let you persist in your inequlity.
Clearly you wouldn't do that since you're probably a virgin, and hence never had a relationship marriage or otherwise, with women on a regular basis,
But when you're finally man enough to have relations with women, you'll find That slipping your genitals into your partner without having to ask first isn't rape, and women tend to agree
but until then, remain deluded and insane in your warped sense of reality
Bla bla bla, i haven't been remotely inconsistent.
No, i'm not changing my argument at all. You stated that marriage is contract and therefore you cannot rape your wife. This is simply not true, if you hold your wife down and have sex with her it doesn't matter if she is your wife or not, you have raped her.
I do not see how that is either illogical or ludicrous.
its not a false logical appeal you moron. its medical fact. it creates trauma both mantally and physically. you hold that some agreement is more important than the well being of the woman. we are saying that the woman is more important than that silly piece of paper that condones rape. and we are the illogical ones? when she says no it means no.
No it isn't regardless of marital status non consensual intercourse is defined as rape by law in all but 4 countries in the world and is listed on the UN human rights act.
Essentially you don't give two hoots or a woman's rights, you only care for your own sexual desires.
Personally i don't think rpe is much ado about nothing. What's next anything except vaginal intercourse goes with children too?
It is. Hum,an rights issue. One has the right at anytime to change their minds. Omne has the right to choose their reproductive partner. A marriage contract is does not give you the right to rape your wife
of course not, to mahmood that is contractual marriage. its how allah wanted it. it would even be better if she were nine and beaten and raped in the basement.
lol. wow, when do communism advocate feminism? might want to talk to the chinese about that. women are horridly oppressed there today. a zygote cannot live outside the womb. a human organism is one that can be sustained outsdie the womb. the geopolitics is conservatives, its realpolitick. its what is happening in reality. i have neither advocated it nor have i criticized it.
You clearly have NO idea what you're talking about
maybe you should actually read some of the writings pf PROMINENT feminist demagoges, like say Simone De Bouvier'
"No woman should be authorized to stay at home and raise her children. Society should be totally different. Women should not have that choice, precisely because if there is such a choice, too many women will make that one"-Simone de Beauvoir, Sex, Society, and the Female Dilemma
Cristians are against abortions, nowhere in church will you hear any1 speak of invading a country, invoronment has nothing to do with anything. Again quit the bullshit already, you seem to not know christians at all. And your kind is even killing each other , one type of muslims against another.
Obama isnt Christian, and are you seriously that dumb to suggest that even though not a single christian in this nation supports abortion , but they still support it because you say so? Your logic fails you, but I see what you trying to do and its not going to work , because all of your lovely suicide bombers and all those asswipes who promote murder in you lovely Iran and other muslim nations, are actually doing so with islam as a guide, yes all of them are actually muslim.
Obama is a Christian and so is Bush, BOTH are using christianity as their guide, America is majority christian and it's legal in America, and in the Bible it says "render unto ceasar that which is ceasar" so they're legalizing baby murder with a Bible as a guide
unlike countries who use islamic law as their guide, the guide in america is not religion, but secular law, law that was inspired by atheists and deists who did not believe in a personal god. but nice try play again rape crusader
I love you dimwitted vilent muslims. Suicude bombs marital rape, spousal abuse, pedophile prophet, rationalization of child brides, arranged marriages.... death penalties for gays. Genocide support. You guys are swell. Burn in hell you filthy degenerate
I don't even think this is a islamic problem bat, there are plenty of scholars who state that spousal rape is wrong due to the wedge of literature showing it to cause harm. Yet this guy ignores all that. Wondering how he'd feel if his wife drugged him, tied him up and screwed him with a dong.
well a lot of those things i mentioned are islamic problems. and to be honest, i'd love for his wife (wives) to tie him up a fuck him with a wiffle ball bat. rhetoric and attitude like his get women raped at a once per five seconds rate world wide.
just as I cheer as hysteric hyper exaggerating simpletons like yourself get curbed in for their ludicrous melodrama. I'm sure my side wins, as you're not evolutionarily capable to survive... too much cry baby sentimentalism
Oh hear we go, the use of long words with the tell tale signs of poor punctuation in an attempt to seem intellectually superior. Terrible, just terrible.
As for who wins, well, non consensual intercourse regardless of marital status is illegal in the US and carries a penalty of 10-15 years incarceration.
The hatred of rapists, who are essentially cowards, is not cry baby sentimentalism. Women have a right do decide when to have sexual relations.
And once again Ill repeat it to you, none of the religions you have mentioned is teaching murder. NONE shall I repeat it again? And that is the point Islam teaches murder, and dont go back in history Im talking modern tomes, and no wars were NOT teaching of christian or Protestant religion. Do you see the difference or are you still going to play dumb
sure they Samulils, it was the Christian Right in the United States that urged others to go to war. In fact they called it a "crusade" which is a religious term, so it's influenced by Biblical ideas of "End Times"
And yes the Wars were teachings of the Christian Catholic and Protestant religion
No difference , read the Book of revelations, they each claimed they were fighting off "false" prophets like the Book of Revelation predicts
you are losing your mind, its was about religion, it was about oil. i admit, a faulty reason, but it had nothing to do with some made up diety. where in the new testament does it advocate war? the book of revelations is not seen as history or prophecy by most most christian religions. wrong. lol. its a poem about nero you twit.
You're picking and choosing, "where in the "new testament"
if the Bible was just the "new testament" then why do you have an old testament? The New Testament doesn't make the old testament invalid, it just adds to it.
Anyways I'll meet your demand,
Revelations 9:16-18 , I'd post it but comment section limits me to 500 words
oh of course because clearly the concept of inherent morality or value of human existence is derived from Atheism or Deism. Both of these world views have so much to say about those concepts
ROFL ROFL ROFL. Christians don't have a doctrine dictating murder. Tell that to Scott Roeder. Christians, Jews, Muslims, Hindus, Buhdists, etc, etc. have all found justification in their revered texts to justify murder. Give me a break! eye-roll.
the old testament, part of christian holy texts has mandate mandates of violence. in fact throughout time christian leaders and clerics used these to rationlize aggression.
crashman6 The only religion in MODERN times that kills while using its "holly " text as a guide, is Islam. Dont give me that bullshit about historical references. It is not what I was talking about and you know that. So give me a break.
This is why I don't need to vlog. Someone else apparently has spoken my mind already.
I agree with everything this guy says... and I generally disagree with everyone.
EgoNamahaNemoRex 6 months ago
@Cleverman50 Zing!
NoahTheZoophile 7 months ago
@Cleverman50 Wow, yet another zinger, how do you come up with these brilliant one-liners. I mean, seriously, that last one really hurt my feelings.
You are obviously a pathetic little boy that doesnt know anything about international issues, otherwise you wouldn't say "Iran rules"
NoahTheZoophile 7 months ago
@Cleverman50 Seriously, that's the best you got.
Why don't you go live in Iran with the rest of the ignorant cunts if you love it so much.
NoahTheZoophile 7 months ago
@Cleverman50 Ignorant cunt.
NoahTheZoophile 7 months ago
I think the video was more to do with the shift in attitde of America towards potential threats over the last couple generations. It's been a while since I saw the video, but I believe my rough interpretation was that his country was allowing itself to be ruled by fear - I don't think he's necessarily saying that the Iranians should have nukes, and I highly doubt he would advcate theocracy. Hell, if he did, he would cease to be my voice so fuck him.
TheMinxTail 1 year ago
DOWN WITH ISRAHELL!
antekification 1 year ago
cant Israel stop warmongering!? SANCTIONS ON ISRAEL!
antekification 1 year ago
@antekification. According to amnsety international hamas is responsible for more palestinian deaths than israel in the past decade. Muslims kill more muslims than any foreign power ever has. Missed your critcism of iran killing peaceful protestors. Seems a bit bigoted.
battim 1 year ago
@battim Why are you lying? Generally, look at the death statistics for Israelis and then look at the same numbers for Palestinians. Only in the Gazawar IDF killed 1100-1300 palestinians, most of them where civilians, most of them were children.
We most stop this psychotic
antekification 1 year ago
@antekification amnsesty and fatah claim over 17000 have been executed.killed by hamas. The excute homosexuals and alduterers without trial. You ignore fatah? They are palestinians. Nice try.
battim 1 year ago
@battim Why did you ignore my info? Did you check the death statisic? If you hate one side because they kill, you might want to dig deep into what Israel does. May I ask where you are from? America?
antekification 1 year ago
@battim you do really good work and I think you make really great points. I disagree with you about one thing...I don't think the "amazing Atheist" is that bright (And I'm an Atheist myself) I think he is just a loud mouth who is trying hard to be Penn Jillette. Keep up the good work.
jonkabbash 1 year ago
@antekification he's a zionist and ugly freak. He is just a mouth
adygondal 1 year ago
@battim - Battim you chat so much bullshit man, where do you get your sources from FOX NEWS i guess. Go and get a life dude, stop spreading artificial facts to people.
Musiclegends100 1 year ago
@Musiclegends100 dear idiot. Please name an artificial fact. I have done many videos bashing fox news and their bullshit. Your straw man tactics only show you have nothing of merit to say....faceless trolls with no courage to do videos themselves. You are among them
battim 1 year ago
@battim - Say no more son you are the original representation of a troll.
Musiclegends100 1 year ago
@Musiclegends100. No sir. You are. You have made no comment of substance. Name something I said incorrect. You like theocracy?
battim 1 year ago
At 1:45 you said Iran is "kind of" a democracy...They (Iran) are nothing of the sort...It is a pure dictatorship...This is a fact.
NonComplacentJerk 1 year ago
Hah! What a load of racist bullcrap!
How many countries has Iran attacked, invaded or occupied?
How many countries has the US attacked, invaded, occupied?
costatropicalgranada 1 year ago
racism? i love how when anyone disagree with someone, they must be racist. silliness. persians are amongst the most miitant folks in history. period. shiites are as well. i guess the eight year war and all the persian wars in history eleuded your reading list. lol.
battim 1 year ago
racism? i love how when anyone disagree with someone, they must be racist. silliness. persians are amongst the most miitant folks in history. period. shiites are as well. i guess the eight year war and all the persian wars in history eleuded your reading list. lol.
battim 1 year ago
racism? i love how when anyone disagree with someone, they must be racist. silliness. persians are amongst the most miitant folks in history. period. shiites are as well. i guess the eight year war and all the persian wars in history eluded your reading list. lol.
battim 1 year ago
@battim The Eight year war was in defensive to Saddam attacking them.
To educate someone of your ilk is very frustrating, your video is full of falsehoods, misconceptions and a narrow minded belief system.
Coupled with the low volume and the lighting this has to be the most irritating video on YouTube. Furthermore, as a Christian I realize that my own religion is full of crap and has committed atrocities against humanity but you wish to overlook that little fact and attack other religions.
MACKATTACK1970 1 year ago
@MACKATTACK1970
I believe you should get educated and get your facts straight and then come back and put a video together as of this point in time you are nonsensical and juvenile in your thinking process.
MACKATTACK1970 1 year ago
the facts are straight. its a theocracy that implements religious rule and violates human rights. onyl thing juvenile is ignoring the murders of dozens of protestors and jailing of ore simply for speaking their minds. but keep supporting autocracy and human rights violators.
battim 1 year ago
@MACKATTACK1970. Facts are you support an autocratic theocracy in iran. No more no less. Enjoy supporting the murder of gays and women in the name of god. Good boy.
battim 1 year ago
irritating why? because you support human rights iolating theocracies?
battim 1 year ago
@battim Do you realize that you are a moron.
Do you realize that I am a Christian and I prefer to listen to people like 'The amazing Atheist' purely because he has intelligence and you have ignorance. Listening to Ignorant people, narrow minded people and buffoons is frustrating. You Sir fall within all of those subgroups.
MACKATTACK1970 1 year ago
i could really care less what religion you are. amazing atheist has on many occasions went after the theocracy of iran. narrow minded? have you read what the ayotollah has written? the onyl one with a narrow mind is a person who doesnt see an autocratic theocracy violating human rights daily. you, fall within the catagory of naieve and supprt theocracies who subjugate women and kill protestors. have at it.
battim 1 year ago
@battim ----- Here we go, you are standing up for those poor women in Iran and are against an autocratic theocracy violating human rights. You must feel like a superman or an angel sent by god almighty himself to save humanity.
Of course you fail miserably to see that we support many dictators and governments that violate human rights of their citizens as long as they are either beneficial to us or are too strong to attack.
Your juvenile belief system is equal to a 12 year old. Grow up!
MACKATTACK1970 1 year ago
oh the silly personal attacks based on absolutely nothing. e-psychology always makes me giggle. so in your world standing up against oppression is a bad things and sitting quiet while it happens is a good thing. in your world if someone speaks up about atrocities it somehow must be guided b god? silliness. you fail miserably at not watching my body of work and seeing how i have condemned the west for supporting autocracies worldwide. but of course you fail to see that. you fail at alot.
battim 1 year ago
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Hah! What a load of racist bullcrap!
How many countries has Iran attacked, invaded or occupied?
How many countries has the US attacked, invaded, occupied?
costatropicalgranada 1 year ago
Hah! What a load of racist bullcrap!
How many countries has Iran attacked, invaded or occupied?
How many countries has the US attacked, invaded, occupied?
costatropicalgranada 1 year ago
iran is a proxt support to two organizations attacking israel on a regular basis. they also supply arms to rebels in iraq fighting againt the iraqi democracy.
battim 1 year ago
As for the paranoia, well a lot of it is a mass form of Posttraumatic stress disorder, and many are also, to some extent, suffering from a rude awakening. Work, good time, tv and movies tend to binker people to the outside world but when it is thrown in their face they can only look at it as an object they have never seen before and use what they know to describe it even if they have trouble understanding it.
BrutusCass 2 years ago
It is not as much of a Democracy as it was before 1953 though much more than it had been for a long since 1953. I always found the newborn Christian belief in being taken away the moment before their concept of Armageddon pretty worrying. One must always becareful of tribal Fairytales, and remember that those living in it will not see it as easy as those viewing it from outside.
BrutusCass 2 years ago
americans who think that iran is seriosuly going to nuke anywhere are retarded..... iran has too many enemies and not enough allies to sustain a decent offense on any country. not to mention the country itself is alreayd in shambles because of the elections. dont get your lil head all worked up
xjsk88 2 years ago
the military isnt controlled by the emam's, its controlled by the emam's AND the clerics.... which is "basically" like senators and the house of reps in a way.
in my opinion theres no real reason to worry. iran has no real allies, so if they decided to bomb israel or america or uk or france or WAHTEVER they would be decended upon in a mere few months or maybe even weeks and be taken over. i think its safe to say that they just need it for self defense.
xjsk88 2 years ago
Your stupid. I feel this is just a video for you to show off your "intelligence".
just my opionion
La2venida 2 years ago
Nuclear weapons in the hands of the mullahs would be the most dangerous combination since the dawn of the nuclear age -- a nuclear-armed state heading and supplying a number of anti-Western terrorist organizations--including Hezbollah, Hamas and the Qad which fought the US in Iraq--all led by religious zealots who think war is necessary to bring about the second coming of their prophet.
Point here, a nuclear Iran would be a serious threat to Israel, to Iran, AND to world peace in general.
esj8341 2 years ago
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esj8341 2 years ago
There is nothing in the Kuran that says we should kill dude trust me..i am muslim i have read it..i understand it..if i go out and kill someone because they are not muslim or w.e reason..then im going to go to hell! those people are radicals..
ak390 2 years ago
would you like me to quote chapter and verse on the koran for you?
battim 2 years ago
no no the translations are not correct..arabic is such a powerful language it cannot be translated..i know arabic turkish and english..and when i translate it doesnt sound the same trust me..
ak390 2 years ago
then why do so many muslims who speak arabic translate it the same way? why is it that so many believe violence is part of the dogma, you know, that speak arabic natively?
battim 2 years ago
first of all before you say anything of the kuran you need to read up on it..because their is nothing in there that talks about viloence..dumbass people came up with that shit..i dont understand how they can judge a holy book without even reading it..doesnt that sound a little stupid?
ak390 2 years ago
would you like me to cite chapter and verse. i have read it, it literally glorifies and demands violence.
battim 2 years ago
And the bible does not?
crashman6 2 years ago
certainly it does, where did i say the hebrew texts were any better?
battim 2 years ago
I was just making sure you were spreading the hate of theology evenly. As for Iran having nukes, it is VERY hypocritical for us in the states to dictate who can have them and who can not. It is very simple, we tell Iran; "Go ahead have your nukes. However, if a nuke detonates in ANY western nation, then we will not hesitate, nor investigate. Tehran will be reduced to rubble and human potash." I can't believe the only country to EVER use nukes on a civilian population can tell others what to do.
crashman6 2 years ago
well you are making out of context metaphors. the tiny little bombs we used in japns are cap guns compared to what can be nleashed today (and it is decidely not the winding down of the most violent conflict in history either). japan attacked the united states. it was not our aggression that caused us to use them.
battim 2 years ago
My metaphor was not out of context. We used nukes on civilians; the ONLY nation to ever do so. Some historians point out again and again that Japan was on the brink of collapse. Using the nukes was for our world power agenda. Show the russians what we can do and put them in their place. We do not possess they authority to DICTATE to anyone on the possession of nukes. I don't care who you are. Murder is murder, and we killed thousands of innocents those two days. This nation is full of Hypocrits.
crashman6 2 years ago
actually most civilians were gone. both of these cities saw mass exdous after firebombing on industrial targets. as for japans being on the brink of collapse, some historians also felt that japan would have fought until every last person was dead. using the nukes was to make a point i agree, mostly to the soviets. one wa'nt good enough, two showed them we had more. murder is not murder, again, japan and germany were imperislaizing the world, i supoose you'd suggest we sit back?
battim 2 years ago
And we are not going for imperialization now? Are you kidding me? We are occupying two countries. The U.S. Great Britain and the European Union are telling the rest of the world to be just like them. Our standards are held superior over the rest of the world. That is Imperialism. But since we do it it is ok. How long was Great Britain in charge of the known world? How about French colonialism? The west is just as guilty of being Imperialists as anyone else.
crashman6 2 years ago
you love to put words in people mouths based on a singular persepctive. every large power does what it can to ensure the self interest of their poplace, its how they remain in power. i will say at least the west and the modern east believes people shouldn't be treated as property as islam does. i would say the modern ideals of pluralism are better than the stone aged world of islam. you apparently would not. perspective. the victors get to decide what right and wrong, not some ideal.
battim 2 years ago
Oh have you ever been to a Baptist wedding. It states in the vows, the woman is the property of the man. I am through arguing with you. You are completly biased towards a western form of thought. Again Good day.
crashman6 2 years ago
you are right. i am biased towards self government, human rights, individual rights and against child rape and slavery. you seem to think slavery and child rape are ok so long as it their culture. you seem to think its ok to do those things based on some relativistic apporaoch to mankind. one group has given rights and changed wealth distribution for the better. islam has made the rich super rich and mired a the majority is filthy poverty.
battim 2 years ago
as for baptist weddings, its illegal in america to own a human. secular law is above silly religious rhetoric. in islam its law. you dont see the difference because you are biased toward islam thinking someone its the moral equivalent to plurality. baptists are such a tiny fraction of christians. bad metaphor, again.
battim 2 years ago
Whatever, Good day.
crashman6 2 years ago
You are putting words in my mouth. I NEVER once said Islam is right. You can talk that shot all you want. I never said Islam is better. What I said is there is duplicity and derision on BOTH sides.
crashman6 2 years ago
well you seem to think it hold equal footing with pluralism. you said i have a bias toward enlightened principles, as to say you did not have that bias. in other words you seem to think its all relative.
battim 2 years ago
si keep whining about it while you takes advantage of the pleasures of that derision and duplicity. that makes you the hypocrite, no?
battim 2 years ago
However, there's a part of religion called "manners" or "akhlagh" in Arabic, and you're not really supposed to use chinese or Arabic words if your talking in English for example because then, its easy for everyone to get confused but that what many ppl do- on top of labelling themselves as Muslims(means going to heaven) often as an excuse to not have to try hard cause they're saying they're automatically good enough same as the white nazis who wont stop attacking Jesus's country.
seannouri 2 years ago
U should learn more and more, but I hope u will b guided. PS Allah just means God and no matter how close to perfect the religion is, i guess theres always ppl everywhere who find every way imaginable to twist it and distort it in order to exploit other ppl. For example, in my opinion the biggest wrong thing that n e one can do in Religion is labelling/judging urself as "muslim", thats called Shirk. It's the same as saying i'm white like a snowflake with no blemish (figuratively), superior.
seannouri 2 years ago
islam has not been twisted or distorted. it commands ciolence in its holy text.
battim 2 years ago
Against infidels. Those that proffess to be a christian, jew of muslim but in fact do so to deceive. Lay your hands on the infidels and kill them. The bible says the same things. You know there are Christian terrorists in this world as well. Scott Roeder, Eric Rudolph, and a number of the killers of abortion doctors.
crashman6 2 years ago
oh but the scales are not the same. there are socialist terrorists as well. the bottoms line is, in recent decades muslims have for outpaced all other forms of terror combined.
battim 2 years ago
And the bombing of hospitals and refugee camps in Palestine is not a form of terror? Terrorism; the systematic use of terror especially as a means of coercion. Any form of military destruction for political reasons can be labeled terrorism. Every political, theological and other ideological systems has used violence to force coersion of an enemy, so there for it can be labeled as terrorism.
crashman6 2 years ago
any more than the bombing of israeli citizens? nope. its called war. both sides have their share of killing innocents in the name of whatever self interest motivates them. you seem to think that one side is better than the other. Terrorism has been defined as violence by a non nation state. regardless, keep seeing the world as fixable and you like marx and engels before you will die dissapointed.
battim 2 years ago
That definition is not the original. The definition refering to a non nation state is a fairly modern one. The definition I posted was from 1795 in the Merriam webster book. Did I say the world can be fixed? No it can't because of myopic views of the world in all classes and cultures. My God is bigger than yiour God. My ideas are superior to your ideas, so on and so forth.
crashman6 2 years ago
when referring to terroism in context geopolitically it is defined as i have defined it. you love out of context positions. in 1795 most of the world beleived slavery was ok too? wanna go back to the defintion of equal rights too from 1795? lol. competition is literally built in us. the fact you are spouting your belief systems means you are just as guilty as they you whine about. amazing how you whine about others as you belt out self indignation. hypocrites calling out hypocrites. lol
battim 2 years ago
You can say they are out of context all you want does not make it so. Yeas ands geopolitics are are set, for the most part by western powers. As far as reffering to me as a whiner, nice to bring in name calling. I never said you were a hypocrit, did I? If you wish to devolve into childish labels go right ahead. I think you are just getting a litle frustrated at my responses to your form of logic.
crashman6 2 years ago
its all out of context, you are making historical metaphors that don't fit. godwins law. human activity especially on large scale group dynamics are very complex. you keep trying to make metaphors that don't fit. you are whining about america while you speak under the very freedom it affords you. its not childish to call someone a whiner when they complain while living and taking advantage of all the imperialism thwy whine about. you are on the internet, a product of the us military.
battim 2 years ago
IO did not complain about America. I pointed out the duplicity of some Some of the ideas that float around. Good day sir. We agree to disagree.
crashman6 2 years ago
certainly go back and read your comments. you certainly criticized american policies. oyu may have criticized the other side too, but are you saying you aren't criticizing their duplicity while swimming in the luxuries those duplicities afford you?
battim 2 years ago
I am trying to point out that ALL sides are hypocrits, marching along throughout the bloody history of mankind. Islam is no worse than radical Christianity, or Judaism. for god sakes the Talmud says if one is not a jew, he should be killed. Every single social and political construct can only thrive in an Us versus Them mentality.
crashman6 2 years ago
actually islam, today, is worse. in pluralisitic societies if one wishes not to be part of the fundemental religions you speak of, they can walk away, in islamic states they are forced by law to still live their lives that way. thats the difference. many jews are atheists. they don't follow the talmud. comparing 14 million jews to 1.6 billion muslims is silly. even if every jew was fundementalist (they are not) it would pale in comparison. christians in america are jailed for violence.
battim 2 years ago
As are muslims in their countries if they break the law. Are you saying that ALL muslims are terrorists? There are by far more moderates in Islam then radicals. If all 1.6 Billion wanted to kill us, I think they might have already done that.
crashman6 2 years ago
actually no. honor killings and violence against women are glorified and legal in muslim states. they are illegal here. its illegal to fuck a nine year old here, its legal in islamic states. if moderates outnumber radicals in islam, why do radicals run everything? they couldnt do that, it would mean the rapid end to islam as they know it. they can't compete, biggest reason is, their stine aged ideology.
battim 2 years ago
i am saying most terroists are muslim
battim 2 years ago
The scales are not the same. True. I don't think that islamic terrorists have been able to kill more than a hundred thousand people in the past eight years like the US military has.
crashman6 2 years ago
again false metaphor. one is a nation state, the other not so much. its apparent as well you see the world in the same way folks like george bush does, as good vs bad as opposed to the realistic self interest vs self interest. its called human nature. self rightwous indignation won't change that.
battim 2 years ago
in other words...lol. a jew and a christian are ok so long as they follow islam. lol. and what of all the non abrahamic religious, they must die under islamic law. that said, it seems to me you think its ok to kill infidels. funny coming from the guy running around calling folks hypocrites.
battim 2 years ago
A who is using false statements? I never said that killing infidels was right. As far as George Bush is concerned I would not piss on him tro put him out. I don't see the world as black and white. I think you should read ALL the way through my comments before putting words in my mouth.
crashman6 2 years ago
i said your statememtn seem to qualify islams stand on infidels. it doesn't. you certainly seem to be saying things are an evil/good paradigm like bush does. there is no such things as evil/good. those are social norms we agree upon, doesn't make them "truth"
battim 2 years ago
Iran invented freedom, saved humanity/Europe on at least two occasions from literally getting raped bigtime(from Mongols especially, & turks)all the while ur "white" leaders never stopped trying to do slavery, punishing the best and brightest of their own ppl based on "nice guys finish last" concept, and attacking the middle east, as a way to have control over world trade while empowering other nation's criminals.
seannouri 2 years ago
iran invented freedom, was that before or after slaughtering protestors?
battim 2 years ago
this is nwo fear mongering. america has enough nukes to blow up the planet three times. the elites are angry because ahmadinejad doesn't want to do business with the imf. i find it ironic that those who push this bs in the media are those who make the weapons.
and i'm glad ron paul has a chance in 2012, dump israels' ass and grow some hemp. we don't need israel and we don't need to be in the middle east. any conflict? not our damn business.
SushiHead20 2 years ago
Funniest thing you've said so far is suggesting that unlike Iran, the people of the United States actually control their military. I don't think there's much hope for you.
curea229 2 years ago
What's the difference between Iran having nuclear capabilities and the U.S. or Israel having them? How many countries has the U.S. invaded, vs Iran? How many countries has Israel invaded, vs. Iran? You mentioned that in Iran, the military isn't controlled by the people............you actually think it is here in the U.S.?
Mechelle68 2 years ago 3
68,
You are equivocating.
Ahmadinejad is funding three proxy wars at the moment two against Israel via Hamas and Hezbollah and one against the US in Iraq.
Moreover, Ahmadinejad has repeatedly threatened not only Israel with destruction, but he also repeatedly warned the US and the UK of grave consequences.
esj8341 2 years ago
Ahmadinejad has not threatened Israel with destruction. That was media hype. You can find what he actually said on YouTube. You'll see how the media, as well as our government, twisted his words to mean something they didn't. That's old news.
So what if he's funding Hamas or Hezbollah? We're funding the Israeli government, who have committed more crimes against humanity, broken more UN resolutions than its neighboring countries, combined.
Mechelle68 2 years ago
he is funding terrorist groups, thats illegal. funding a government is not. of course you dont see the difference, you are blind to radical islams evil. i guess you agree with 911 attacks. that makes you no better than him.
battim 2 years ago
Sorta how the U.S.; which I am a natural born citizen of, propped up Sadaam in the 1980's and funded a proxy war with Iran. Then we turned around and secretly gave Iran weapons to fund the war in Central America against the sandinistas. My god do you not watch or read any kind of news or history books? We threaten countries all the time with sanctions followed by threats of violence. Duplicity, duplicity.
crashman6 2 years ago
its called playing both sides. the societs did the same thing during the eight year war. its not duplicity, its realpolitick, as long as everyone is fighting there remains one superpower. its how the game is played, always has been always will be.
battim 2 years ago
mechelle why lie and say i censored your comments? the us and israel are not theocracies advocating genocide. china and russia agree with us. the EU agrees. noone in the international community besides freaks like chavez support him. enjoy supporting theofascist regimes. great right wing stance.
battim 2 years ago
Battim......why lie and say you don't? Why did a "comment pending approval" bar pop up when I hit the "post comment" button?
Where's my comment? Huh? Where is it if you don't censor it? I posted it it before esj posted his about you being Mark Twain of YT.
Where is it? ONly you can remove it or reject it. I can't remove it.
Hamas, whether you wish to admit it or not, IS a government body legally elected by the Palestinians.
Mechelle68 2 years ago
"i guess you agree with 911 attacks. that makes you no better than him."
Why do you do that?
Why do you take the fact that I stated that Iran's leader didn't say he was going to wipe Israel off the map, which has been backed up by professional Farsi interpretors, and political science and linguistic scholars.....and then create a strawman fallacy with that by equating THAT with some bullshit that I agree with 911 attacks?
Why do you do that?
Mechelle68 2 years ago
Just a quick question Mahmood42978, I've been reading this forum and I need to clarify an issue. Are you actually suggesting that once married, a woman has no rights to refuse the sexual advances of her husband, and if she does, he can forcefully have sex with her?
Please tell me you aren't.
PS. There is a huge difference between implied consent and unconsenting. I suggest you read up on it before making previous allegations.
beansmacca99 2 years ago
In the SANE world, Marriage is a contractual agreement for conjugal rights with your spouse. Unless the act itself can lead to known harm,then there is to refuse conjugal relations is a breach of that agreement . However, the husband commit violence against his wife to have relations.
in implied consent, there's a HUGE grey area, if she originally agrees but then changes her mind just immediately prior to climax
So no in fact what you're doing is giving a blank check to false rape accusations.
Mahmood42978 2 years ago
Medical literature shows that unconsenting spousal relations do cause both physical and mental harm. A simple pubmed search will show you this.
AtheismDirect 2 years ago
Seems like an interesting topic, but you speak to slow.
UFPDelta1135 2 years ago
Ok so it's NOT about fear, but it's about people who have beliefs that are a threat to yours, being able to yield power in the region over something you have financial stakes in.
And of course Ahmadinejad and Khamaanei are batshit crazy for believing in the "Muslim Messiah" conspiracy theory
But your average Republican and Zionist lobby in America who legislate Middle Eastern Policy believing in the Rapture and Battle of Armegeddon is CLEARLY the sane move.
makes sense.
Mahmood42978 2 years ago
Nope <ahmood not at all, you love Ahmadinacrap believes in killing Jews to bring the 12 prophet. Christians dont have a doctrine which dictates murder.
samuils 2 years ago
Obviously you never read the Bible
Mahmood42978 2 years ago
Do you see christians breading suicide bombers? Do you hear modern churches proffesing murder? I see muslim suicide bombers, and I hear teaching of murder in the moders islam. I wish that teaching murder in islam was a history as it is in the history of christianity. So dont bullshit me.
samuils 2 years ago
I see christian rapists, mass murderers, invaders of other people's country, exploiters, destroyers of the environment, committers of abortion (aka baby killing)
If you ask me murdering babies is kind of worse
Mahmood42978 2 years ago
mass muders, you mean like 9/11, or the mass graves with hundereds of thousands of people in iraq? or the 400,000 christians slaughtered in somalia? or the tens of thousands killed in teh aceh region in indonesia...oh thats right...that was muslims. btw, name one christian religion that advocate abortion moron.
battim 2 years ago
Battim, your accuracy about the idea that rape is legal in Iran, when no official document states legality of rape. Brings into question lot of other things you state
let's not forget the 700,000 + Iraqis who have died as a result of the War their. 30,000 Afghans to invade their country
The United States has it legal right? The Popular religion is Christianity right?
Case closed
the legality of Baby murder is the biggest stain any christian majority nation can never undermine
Mahmood42978 2 years ago
marital rape is legal. that is a fact. it is illegal for a woman to charge her husband with rape in iran. you can ignore facts. when did i ever claim the us had a legal right to invade iraq? where, when, ever? that has nothing to do with what we are talking about, that is known as triangulation. as for baby murder...well...killing an eight cell organism is murder dont scratch your arm or you'll kill thousands of human cells...
battim 2 years ago
are you kidding me? The marriage contract is a legal contract for sexual relations, not some predator lurking in the shadows pouncing on a victim or sucj
now you're talking like a liberal
I'm not here to claim that you claimed this, I claimed under the sanction of a majority christian nation, with a christian president giving the orders
the cells from scratching your arm is not an "organism", they're facultative cells of an organism. a Zygote is a human organism
Mahmood42978 2 years ago
you are a fucking moron. you are now advocating if a women says no then the man can take the sex. you are adovocating rape. thats not liberal you sexist, rape condoning asshole. a zygote is not a human organism, it cannot live outside the womb.
battim 2 years ago
You;re a double talker, first you peddle conservative geopolitics, but then ride on LIBERAL feminist sociopolitics? You're thinking like a commie. When you get married you say "I do". It means you already agreed for a sexual relationship
A zygote is a human organism, what is the DNA of a zygote? The combination of two human parents, What is the zygote doing? growth and development of it's organ systems, just as humans.
Living outside of the womb is not a prerequisite for deciding species
Mahmood42978 2 years ago
'When you get married you say "I do". It means you already agreed for a sexual relationship' - Do you rape your wife?
AtheismDirect 2 years ago
by the definition of marriage
no, since contractual marriage is already an agreement for sexual relations
nice try.
Mahmood42978 2 years ago
Unfortunately in the US, rape is defined as sexual acts without consent, this is regardless of whether they are your spouse or not.
AtheismDirect 2 years ago
consent is defined by agreement, marriage is an agreement for sexual relations,
what about that is NOT clear to you
or are you just trying to make much ado about nothing?
Mahmood42978 2 years ago
rape is something ans you are advocating rape. you are typical of islam?
battim 2 years ago
you're ridiculous, and obviously a degenerate liberal
so wait, you're saying if a husband slips his genitals into his wife late at night, , spooning,
he's raped her is THAT what you're trying to tell me???????
Mahmood42978 2 years ago
not, what we are saying is if she says no and you take it anyway, its called rape
battim 2 years ago
hahhaa I see a HUGE inconsistency here
so by YOUR explanation, why wouldn't a husband who already penetrated his wife before she acknowledged acceptance, not be considered rape?
according to your explanation it's NON-consensual intercourse right? And technically the wife never approved of the initial penetration.
Ok here's ANOTHER question, you and your wife are in congress and you're about to achieve climax, and then suddenly says "No, get out of me", if you continue, is that rape?
Mahmood42978 2 years ago
1) It is
2) It is
AtheismDirect 2 years ago
3) then more or less every male on this planet who's had sexual relationships with women, include your own father is a rapist by your standards
how will you prosecute all of us?
Mahmood42978 2 years ago
3) Lol no, most of us don't conform to your mysogeny.
We do prosecute, and one day it will happen to you :)
Even back home in Riyadh the scholars, after reading medical literature showing that marital rape harms women both physically and mentally began to state that marital rape is against sharia law. Let you persist in your inequlity.
Toodles.
AtheismDirect 2 years ago
Clearly you wouldn't do that since you're probably a virgin, and hence never had a relationship marriage or otherwise, with women on a regular basis,
But when you're finally man enough to have relations with women, you'll find That slipping your genitals into your partner without having to ask first isn't rape, and women tend to agree
but until then, remain deluded and insane in your warped sense of reality
Mahmood42978 2 years ago
Lol you no nothing about me, but hey if attempting to bring me down makes you feel vindicated then by all means go ahead :-)
Regarding your second point; that isn't what i'm saying. There's a difference between not hving to ask first and forcing yourself on your wife.
AtheismDirect 2 years ago
Your irrational inconsistency and false logical appeals, did all the vindicating for me
What does force entails? Force, in this context, entails imposing something on someone without their agreement.
So by view this would constitute rape; you're just changing your argument now because you're beginning to see how illogical and ludicrous it is
Mahmood42978 2 years ago
Bla bla bla, i haven't been remotely inconsistent.
No, i'm not changing my argument at all. You stated that marriage is contract and therefore you cannot rape your wife. This is simply not true, if you hold your wife down and have sex with her it doesn't matter if she is your wife or not, you have raped her.
I do not see how that is either illogical or ludicrous.
AtheismDirect 2 years ago
And stop attempting straw man arguments, they ren't going to work on people who are filled with anything more substantial than cotton wool.
AtheismDirect 2 years ago
its not a false logical appeal you moron. its medical fact. it creates trauma both mantally and physically. you hold that some agreement is more important than the well being of the woman. we are saying that the woman is more important than that silly piece of paper that condones rape. and we are the illogical ones? when she says no it means no.
battim 2 years ago
No it isn't regardless of marital status non consensual intercourse is defined as rape by law in all but 4 countries in the world and is listed on the UN human rights act.
Essentially you don't give two hoots or a woman's rights, you only care for your own sexual desires.
Personally i don't think rpe is much ado about nothing. What's next anything except vaginal intercourse goes with children too?
AtheismDirect 2 years ago
This is PURE nonsense; A document stating something, doesn't mean that's "reality"
This isn't a woman's rights issue in the least, but rather Your Hysterics, Distortion and theatrics trying to legitimize itself.
It would be something if what your conceptualizing actually constitutes rape.
But you still haven't demonstrated how a sexual agreement and an existing sexual relationship with a partner, constitutes rape
"What's next?" Slippery slope argumenting .....logical fallacy much?a
Mahmood42978 2 years ago
It is. Hum,an rights issue. One has the right at anytime to change their minds. Omne has the right to choose their reproductive partner. A marriage contract is does not give you the right to rape your wife
battim 2 years ago
Your argument is circular, there is NO rape when you agree to get into a conjugal relationship
this is just distortion and theatrics, you're inventing criminality where there is none
Mahmood42978 2 years ago
So you don't think that holding your wife by the throat after beating them and locking them in a basement is rape?
AtheismDirect 2 years ago
of course not, to mahmood that is contractual marriage. its how allah wanted it. it would even be better if she were nine and beaten and raped in the basement.
battim 2 years ago
lol. wow, when do communism advocate feminism? might want to talk to the chinese about that. women are horridly oppressed there today. a zygote cannot live outside the womb. a human organism is one that can be sustained outsdie the womb. the geopolitics is conservatives, its realpolitick. its what is happening in reality. i have neither advocated it nor have i criticized it.
battim 2 years ago
You clearly have NO idea what you're talking about
maybe you should actually read some of the writings pf PROMINENT feminist demagoges, like say Simone De Bouvier'
"No woman should be authorized to stay at home and raise her children. Society should be totally different. Women should not have that choice, precisely because if there is such a choice, too many women will make that one"-Simone de Beauvoir, Sex, Society, and the Female Dilemma
get better read twirp
Mahmood42978 2 years ago
I doubt a feminist is advocating rape by an animal like yourself.
AtheismDirect 2 years ago
ok , the comment you're responding to had NOTHING to do with rape .....
and I dont see why an Atheist would believe in things like moral code in the first place
as morality is by definition a concept that assumes values on things without any empirical basis
Mahmood42978 2 years ago
Mahmood42978
Cristians are against abortions, nowhere in church will you hear any1 speak of invading a country, invoronment has nothing to do with anything. Again quit the bullshit already, you seem to not know christians at all. And your kind is even killing each other , one type of muslims against another.
samuils 2 years ago
Then why does a christian majority country have abortion as legal
Obama is christian and he supports abortion. So you're wrong
also Protestants and Catholics kill each other too
so everything you're saying is proven wrong
Mahmood42978 2 years ago
Obama isnt Christian, and are you seriously that dumb to suggest that even though not a single christian in this nation supports abortion , but they still support it because you say so? Your logic fails you, but I see what you trying to do and its not going to work , because all of your lovely suicide bombers and all those asswipes who promote murder in you lovely Iran and other muslim nations, are actually doing so with islam as a guide, yes all of them are actually muslim.
samuils 2 years ago
Obama is a Christian and so is Bush, BOTH are using christianity as their guide, America is majority christian and it's legal in America, and in the Bible it says "render unto ceasar that which is ceasar" so they're legalizing baby murder with a Bible as a guide
Mahmood42978 2 years ago
unlike countries who use islamic law as their guide, the guide in america is not religion, but secular law, law that was inspired by atheists and deists who did not believe in a personal god. but nice try play again rape crusader
battim 2 years ago
rape crusader? I'm not some 19th century hillbilly pillaging native american women. Those were your ancestors
now for your own self respect's sake, stop trying to be melodramatic and invent evils where there are none.
Mahmood42978 2 years ago
Frankly i think forcing your penis into a non consenting woman is evil, i'd cheer every time we sent a monster like you to jail.
AtheismDirect 2 years ago
that would only make sense if there was no contractual marital agreement for conjugal rights ....but being that there is
that makes your emo wimp, melodrama , fragile pansy boy cries more or less just silly theatrics
Mahmood42978 2 years ago
hehe, another case of being a big man behind the keyboard.
Regardless, your sexual contract isn't legally recognised by the civilized world.
AtheismDirect 2 years ago
Your pretense of a civilized world is a mental illness created by self deluded, hyper sensitive and irrational dimwits
luckily, the entire world hasn't succumb to your insanity yet
Mahmood42978 2 years ago
I love you dimwitted vilent muslims. Suicude bombs marital rape, spousal abuse, pedophile prophet, rationalization of child brides, arranged marriages.... death penalties for gays. Genocide support. You guys are swell. Burn in hell you filthy degenerate
battim 2 years ago
I don't even think this is a islamic problem bat, there are plenty of scholars who state that spousal rape is wrong due to the wedge of literature showing it to cause harm. Yet this guy ignores all that. Wondering how he'd feel if his wife drugged him, tied him up and screwed him with a dong.
AtheismDirect 2 years ago
well a lot of those things i mentioned are islamic problems. and to be honest, i'd love for his wife (wives) to tie him up a fuck him with a wiffle ball bat. rhetoric and attitude like his get women raped at a once per five seconds rate world wide.
battim 2 years ago
just as I cheer as hysteric hyper exaggerating simpletons like yourself get curbed in for their ludicrous melodrama. I'm sure my side wins, as you're not evolutionarily capable to survive... too much cry baby sentimentalism
Mahmood42978 2 years ago
Oh hear we go, the use of long words with the tell tale signs of poor punctuation in an attempt to seem intellectually superior. Terrible, just terrible.
As for who wins, well, non consensual intercourse regardless of marital status is illegal in the US and carries a penalty of 10-15 years incarceration.
The hatred of rapists, who are essentially cowards, is not cry baby sentimentalism. Women have a right do decide when to have sexual relations.
AtheismDirect 2 years ago
oh here we go (not hear illiterate simpleton), irrelevant bantering because of lacking any substance in discourse.
the hatred of rapists? No what's cry baby sentimentalism and what's COWARDICE, is to make something which isn't rape into rape.
this is just the groaning of bunch of hyper sensitive wimps who try and twist everything normal to human life as seeming evil.
Mahmood42978 2 years ago
And once again Ill repeat it to you, none of the religions you have mentioned is teaching murder. NONE shall I repeat it again? And that is the point Islam teaches murder, and dont go back in history Im talking modern tomes, and no wars were NOT teaching of christian or Protestant religion. Do you see the difference or are you still going to play dumb
samuils 2 years ago
sure they Samulils, it was the Christian Right in the United States that urged others to go to war. In fact they called it a "crusade" which is a religious term, so it's influenced by Biblical ideas of "End Times"
And yes the Wars were teachings of the Christian Catholic and Protestant religion
No difference , read the Book of revelations, they each claimed they were fighting off "false" prophets like the Book of Revelation predicts
Mahmood42978 2 years ago
you are losing your mind, its was about religion, it was about oil. i admit, a faulty reason, but it had nothing to do with some made up diety. where in the new testament does it advocate war? the book of revelations is not seen as history or prophecy by most most christian religions. wrong. lol. its a poem about nero you twit.
battim 2 years ago
You're picking and choosing, "where in the "new testament"
if the Bible was just the "new testament" then why do you have an old testament? The New Testament doesn't make the old testament invalid, it just adds to it.
Anyways I'll meet your demand,
Revelations 9:16-18 , I'd post it but comment section limits me to 500 words
Mahmood42978 2 years ago
you moron, revelations is a poem talking about events which already had happened. lol. it doesnt advocate anything.
battim 2 years ago
oh of course because clearly the concept of inherent morality or value of human existence is derived from Atheism or Deism. Both of these world views have so much to say about those concepts
Mahmood42978 2 years ago
ROFL ROFL ROFL. Christians don't have a doctrine dictating murder. Tell that to Scott Roeder. Christians, Jews, Muslims, Hindus, Buhdists, etc, etc. have all found justification in their revered texts to justify murder. Give me a break! eye-roll.
crashman6 2 years ago
the old testament, part of christian holy texts has mandate mandates of violence. in fact throughout time christian leaders and clerics used these to rationlize aggression.
battim 2 years ago
crashman6 The only religion in MODERN times that kills while using its "holly " text as a guide, is Islam. Dont give me that bullshit about historical references. It is not what I was talking about and you know that. So give me a break.
samuils 2 years ago