This guy isn't the Pope because you have to be a Catholic to be a Pope. Mr. Ratzinger and the rest of you modernist heretics... get OUT of the Roman Catholic Church buildings.
@HailMary53, I am a Catholic. The only reason the term "Traditional" has to be attached is because of how the Novus Ordo religion has erroneously redefined what it means to be Catholic. So, yes, I am a traditional Catholic.
Papal rome killed and tortured 60 million christians...... they have been caught over and over melosting boys, even bible prophecy points them as the anti christ. Wake up ppl this is not The God of the Livng true church
@osamauremama i wont debate with you on the antichrist points because if you even look up on the internet the supporting side of that its all trash, read teh other side and hear what they have to say, and i mean READ... I have not read teh words pope ever appearing in the bible, but it has been mentioned indirectly again READ... Did the church ever authorize the killings? And i am not a historian but 60 million people in one sitting is a lot for a time period that had way less than that of a ...
@osamauremama population. And to both of the points, what are you trying to say? That the Catholic Church has had sinners in past present and even future commit horrible sins in teh churches name? or that the church has sinners even in high authoritative places? Are you saying that you and your church has had no sinners that have commited crimes against a human being? Because if yo judge teh church based on the sins of its members youre wasting you time look at the sins of the world. Instead ...
@osamauremama what didnt i clearify this? Yea the members of the church had sinned and killed hundred of people....what do you want to prove with this? That the Catholic Church has sinners in its midst? What other church doesn"t?
@HailMary53 the fact of the matter is they killed Christians those who were following God's Commands and did not want to follow the law of the papacy. That is my point.... The papacy is now in control because of the brutal torture and killings of innocent Christians. The Bible testifies they are the beast who came out of the water.
@osamauremama we are not trying to determine here the beast of revelation i would debate you all you want on that the point of this debate is why r we even bringing this topic up? there are other churches out there that have been killing and anything sinful against God and it was even the church itself..in the Catholic church it was people acting in the name of the church not the church itself. so i say again whats the point? would this not make the church true?
@HailMary53 All i am asking is for you to look at the facts and stop being so stubborn. Look at the history of how they came to power. John 16:2, Jesus explained a time will come when the disciples would be killed, and the ones who killed them would think they were doing somthing good for God. The pope has no authority what so ever, yet you believe he is the greatest. God didnt give him his kingdom, Satan did
@osamauremama I am stubborn for faith. What about them coming in to power? I know the church had faults but would that make the church not the true church? If this is about papal authority i advise you to google it on a catholic website to see its point of view. I have seen the other thoughts on it...its the same thing the pope is satan, antichrist, evil, etc. But i have yet to see anyone not use the bible to describe it..the bible is a catholic book...look how it came to be
This video bears out the fulfillment of Bible prophecy. The first beast of Revelation 13 is the papacy. The second beast of that chapter, that honors the first beast, is the United States of America.The U.S. is that beast that appears gentle and peaceful at first, having two lamb-like horns, but then finally becomes a tyranny, speaking as a dragon, imitating and mimicking the first beast, speaking as a dragon.The Founding Fathers purposed that our government would favor no religion over another.
God delivered protestants from the Inquisition, opening up the New World where they could establish a new nation upon the broad foundation of civil and religious liberty. Protestants have fully apostatized in going back to Rome, for opposing which their ancestors endured the fiercest persecution. Hence the Lord's call to His people still in those churches, "Babylon is fallen, is fallen." "Come out of her, My people." Apostate protestants and the papacy are leading the U.S. to national ruin.
@NationalApostasy im sorry but religious freedom is beautiful but that also opened up the churches of the KKK, Satanists, and that church that claims to be baptist they protest the soldiers funerals (GOd BLess the armed forces) and have you noticed that the Catholic CHurch is the church in fact the only church that has remained in existence ever since Jesus himself? It has never once fallen i dont think that the church is babylon.
@HailMary53 How do we know the true church? Only by the word of God. The Catholic church, instead of teaching obedience to the Bible, dispensed with the 4th Sabbath commandment: "Sunday is our MARK of authority...the church is above the Bible, and this transference of Sabbath observance is proof of that fact." - Catholic Record of London, Ontario Sept. 1, 1923. "The Sunday...is purely a creation of the Catholic Church." American Catholic Quarterly Review, January 1883.
@NationalApostasy Ok your jumping around all over the place what do you want to know. You brought up the inquisition, ill debate you anytime on the authority of the church but you cannot just change subjects like that. Youre going off topic that is another discussion. But fine well bring it there.
@HailMary53 I brought up the Sabbath because you are insisting the papacy is the true church and I was showing that any church that does away with one of God's commandments can not possibly be the true church. The Bible defines sin as the transgression of the law. Read 2nd Thessalonians 2: The apostle Paul is predicting the rise of the papacy and refers to the pope as "the man of sin" and "the son of perdition." A prayerful, humble study of the Scriptures would show you Rome's character.
@NationalApostasy First the papacy is not the church it is a part of the church, the true church i might add of God The Roman Catholic Church. We did not do away with the sabbath only move it to a more understandable time. Sunday is the day Jesus rose from the dead. I think that you believe this and if not than im wasting my time. St. Paul is telling teh Thessalonians that the end of the world is not now(back when he was writing this letter) instead he tells them the events that must occur...
@HailMary53 "But in vain they do worship Me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men." Matt. 15:9."He that saith, I know Him, and keepeth not His commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him." 1 John 2:4. "To the law and to the testimony: if they speak not according to this word, it is because there is no light in them." Isaiah 8:20. "He that turneth away his ear from hearing the law, even his prayer shall bemabomination." Proverbs 28:9.
@NationalApostasy Matt 15:9 Talks about a prophesy of Isaiah about the Jews. 1 John 2:4 what about it? That because the church sinned means that the truth is not in it? FALSE because all have sinned (with exception of Mary) and if I use your logic than heaven is impossible. Isaiah 8:20 is not the same in my bible therefore i cant see what you read. Proverbs 28:9 Your using it wrong, it really means prayer offered in bad faith is displeasing to God. Matt 15:6,9 is different from what i have......
@HailMary53 "Ye made the commandment of God of none effect by your tradition. . . . In vain they do worship Me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men." Matt. 15:6, 9.
@HailMary53 "Hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments. He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.
But whoso keepeth his word, in him verily is the love of God perfected: hereby know we that we are in him. He that saith he abideth in him ought himself also so to walk, even as he walked." 1 John 2:3-7.
@NationalApostasy I can not help you there. Revelation is too symbolic for me to understand but I can surely tell you that the church is the bride of Christ not a beast.
@NationalApostasy When has the Catholic CHurch ever condemned the Word of God? When has the Catholic CHurch ever said dont read the bible thats bad listen to the priest and only him. I dont think that the church has ever mentioned a thing like that. Thats reading the Bible. Next is the Sabbath i don't know your religion by name but i can tell you that the church has that power to change such practices. Recall that God gives the church authority to bind and loose on earth. and it will be bound..
@HailMary53 It appears that you do not know the history of your church. For hundreds of years the circulation of the Bible was prohibited. The people were forbidden to read it or to have it in their houses, and unprincipled priests and prelates interpreted its teachings to sustain their pretensions. Thus the pope came to be almost universally acknowledged as the vicegerent of God on earth, endowed with authority over church and state.
@NationalApostasy loosed in heaven. Read Matt 18:18 where God gives the church its authority over things on earth. Jesus as we know is lord of the Sabbath. (Matt12:8) continue on to find out that the Lord gave this authority over to his apostles more specifically Peter (Matt 10:40, Matt 16:19, Matt 28:1-6) In response to the Church being more authoritative than teh word, who spoke these words? a bishop, a pope? I don't know who said this wrote it. And id be very careful about sola scriptura...
@HailMary53 You would be very careful about "sola scriptura"? If I were you, I would be very careful about setting up man's word above the word of the living God. God wrote the Ten Commandments upon two tables of stone with HIS OWN finger, and said REMEMBER the Sabbath day to keep it holy. The pope comes along and says, no forget that, do what I say, keep Sunday holy instead. You are honoring popery above God. God gives no man or entity the power to change His word or commandments.
@NationalApostasy Where in the bible does it saay by word alone? In fact look towards the bottom of 2 Thessolonians 2:15. He is telling them to continue with following their traditions. Omg than was St Paul teh Antichrist? The entire bible was at one point a tradition. it was not a book that literally fell from heaven. It continually developed until the church decided for it to be put together. You are wrong btw because the church did lock away the bibles only because they were extremely....
@NationalApostasy expensive, old, only a few copies existed etc. You know why? Because teh printing press was not invented till 1439 (or around that time period) and every single copy of the bible was hand written by monks carefully. Every single copy had taken years to copy down and be finished. You wanna do that? Than have someone take it home and get accidentally burned, dirty, etc? The book was kept in latin so it could be used as a universal book. Not everyone back than could read their...
@NationalApostasy own language. If you wanted to be teh monk that copied those books for people to only get it dirty and destroyed than be my guest. If God gave no man that power than we are wasting our time here. You need to read that bible and see that he did give the pope that power. There are many and I mean many verses that support this fact! Bible and tradition go hand in hand. The word is tradition and tradition is in the word! And you call the pope the antichrist? Why is it than that...
@HailMary53 Peter was not the first pope. That is a deception of the papacy and easily disproved. The Catholic religion is full false doctrines and many of the doctrines are based on paganism. When Cornelius fell down at Peter's feet, and worshipped him, "Peter took him up, saying, Stand up; I myself also am a man." Acts 10:26. Peter refused the worship of man, but the pope encourages it.
@NationalApostasy Peter was the first pope, what was Peter you are the rock and upon this rock I shall builld my church? Wasn't it Peter who spoke with authority when the Holy Spirit descended upon the apostles? Isnt Peter the one who is mentioned more than any other apostle in the BIble? Isnt Peter always mentioned first before any other apostle? Btw Peter refuses it and so does the pope. We have never nor will we start bowing down in worship to the pope. And if we did it was toward his office.
@NationalApostasy of being the vicar of Christ not to be worshipped. It was for who he represented not who he was. And what false documents did the church apporve? hmm bring it really those things are facts. What is 1 John 2:3-7 supposed to prove? Oh my gosh your one of those that believe in that? uhh.... nvm you need to find someone or somthing that can explain revelation to you because reading the word without guidance of something like the church will have you make assumptions without fact...
@NationalApostasy because nowhere in teh bible does it say that. Where in the bible does it say by word alone is man saved. In fact the bible goes says the oppisite.(Matt 16:18-19, Matt 18:17-18, Luke 10:16) Gods law? Its Gods law for the pope to have this power. Look again at the bible. I see much truth being bent here.
@HailMary53 "Sunday is a Catholic institution and its claim to observance can be defended only on Catholic principles .... From beginning to end of Scripture there is not a single passage that warrants the transfer of weekly public worship from the last day of the week to the first." Catholic Press, Sydney, Australia, August, 1990. BUT Jesus said: "But in vain they do worship Me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men." Matt. 15:9. Who will we obey, HailMary53, man or God?
@HailMary53 "The Church made a sacred day of Sunday... largely because it was the weekly festival of the sun; for it was a definite Christian policy to take over the pagan festivals endeared to the people by tradition, and to give them a Christian significance." - Arthur Weigall, The Paganism in Our Christianity, 1928, p. 145. The word of God is the only thing in our world that we can trust and rely on. Whatever contradicts it is a deception of the devil. Please see 2 Thes. chapter 2.
@NationalApostasy Anyway what is your point with the Inquisition? What are yo trying to prove to yourself? It does not affect me as a Catholic reguardless of the sins of the church it is still the church of GOd!
@HailMary53 No, not true. The papacy is the apostate church! It teaches disobedience to the word of God. Jesus said, "WHOSOEVER shall break one of the least of these commandments and teach men so shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven." The papacy boastfully changed God's law, and says,"The pope has power to change times, to abrogate laws, and to dispense with all things even the precepts of Christ." --Decretal De Translat. Episcop. Cap. Who will you believe, Jesus or the pope?
The Pope is as phony as the politicians. He's the richest man alive and the Vatican has large shares in weapon and oil corporations. No wonder Bush and him are so buddy buddy. Wake up people...
@jwils924 you call visiting a country in desperate need of a spiritual uprising political? and the man has more stressed on him than any president. THink running a country is hard? try runnning a couple of them plus a billion people plus another hundred million watching you and basically breathing down your neck constantly. Who are you to judge him?
President Bush and Obama are on the wrong track. Whenever the church has obtained political power, she has used it to punish dissent from her doctrines. The papacy slaughtered millions upon millions of God-fearing souls whose only crime was worshiping God according to their own conscience. Men are closing their eyes to the real character of Romanism - she is unchanged. The people of our land need to be aroused to resist the advances of this most dangerous foe to civil and religious liberty.
@HailMary53 BOTH. Through the centuries the papacy has slaughtered millions upon millions of God fearing men, women and children whose only crime was that they could not let the voice of the pope stand above the voice of God in His Word. There was the stake for those who would not concede to her claims. There were massacres on a scale that will never be known until revealed in the judgment. Every principle of the papacy that existed in past ages exists today. She possesses the same cruelty.
@NationalApostasy the pope is not the church itself no one man is the enitre church. Many sins have been committed in the name of the Holy CHurhc just like many have sinned in the MOst holy Name of God. I have never known a catholic at least a catholic who knew his catechism to ever place the pope above God. the inquisition is entirely different from the way you describe it. it was a mass tortrue and muder committed in the name of the church for the church but has nothing to do with the church..
@NationalApostasy being false. the inquisition was meant for those who claimed to be christian only for political reasons and who were still practicing muslim or jews. every murder is a sin and life should have been treated better. But that doesn't stop the church from being the one true church of God and the pope from being his representative on earth. it was in the word itself that said that there would be ravenous wolves in the churches midst(Acts 20:29, Matt 7:15)
@HailMary53 If we desire to understand the determined cruelty of Satan, manifested for hundreds of years, not among those who never heard of God, but in the very heart of Christendom, we have only to look at the history of Romanism. In many cases the infernal process was repeated to the utmost limit of human endurance, until nature gave up the struggle, and the sufferer hailed death as a sweet release. It is only the restraints of civil governments that stays her persecutions for now.
THERE IS "A PROPHESY" PAINTED IN "THE LAST JUDGEMENT" OF
"MICHELANGELO" IN "THE SISTINE CHAPEL" THAT SAYS THAT WHEN
"THE LITERAL UGLY BUSH SKULL CAP" OF "AN EVIL POPE" EMERGES THERE
WILL BE "AN EVIL EFFORT" TO RESCUE "JESUSCHRIST" WITH "A 3 1/2 DAYS
LITERAL BLOCK LADDER". THE "UGLY SKULL CAP" REFERS TO "GEORGE W. BUSH" AND "POPE BENEDICT XVI" AS "A FALSE POPE".
OrionArmyAngel 1 year ago
This guy isn't the Pope because you have to be a Catholic to be a Pope. Mr. Ratzinger and the rest of you modernist heretics... get OUT of the Roman Catholic Church buildings.
wjweigand 1 year ago
@wjweigand omg really? what makes you think that?
God Bless Roman Catholicism
HailMary53 1 year ago
@HailMary53 .... It's simply based on what previous Popes have infallibly taught and declared as anathema. If you really want to know more, pm me
wjweigand 1 year ago
@wjweigand what r u the Traditionalist Catholic?
HailMary53 1 year ago
@HailMary53, I am a Catholic. The only reason the term "Traditional" has to be attached is because of how the Novus Ordo religion has erroneously redefined what it means to be Catholic. So, yes, I am a traditional Catholic.
wjweigand 1 year ago
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@wjweigand I hate catholics & the pope, u evil ppl, bastards motherfuckers, i hate americans too.
Am English-Athiests!
easynowww 1 year ago
@wjweigand lol th novus ordo redefined the term catholic? accept the authority of teh council and the pope thats all i will say...
Viva il papa!
HailMary53 1 year ago
@HailMary53 ... have you read Vatican II's documents? More importantly, have you ever read any pre-Vatican II documents?
wjweigand 1 year ago
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@HailMary53 accept the authority of Jesus Christ and toss the pagan traditions of the RCC/popes out the window.
rusda2 1 year ago
@wjweigand You are not alone!
sylmarmusic2012 3 days ago
For the White House to have had the band play the Battle Hymn of the Republic at this papal greeting was inappropriate.
david1965af 1 year ago
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Papal rome killed and tortured 60 million christians...... they have been caught over and over melosting boys, even bible prophecy points them as the anti christ. Wake up ppl this is not The God of the Livng true church
osamauremama 1 year ago
@osamauremama i wont debate with you on the antichrist points because if you even look up on the internet the supporting side of that its all trash, read teh other side and hear what they have to say, and i mean READ... I have not read teh words pope ever appearing in the bible, but it has been mentioned indirectly again READ... Did the church ever authorize the killings? And i am not a historian but 60 million people in one sitting is a lot for a time period that had way less than that of a ...
HailMary53 1 year ago
@osamauremama population. And to both of the points, what are you trying to say? That the Catholic Church has had sinners in past present and even future commit horrible sins in teh churches name? or that the church has sinners even in high authoritative places? Are you saying that you and your church has had no sinners that have commited crimes against a human being? Because if yo judge teh church based on the sins of its members youre wasting you time look at the sins of the world. Instead ...
HailMary53 1 year ago
@osamauremama why dont you read its teachings and practices adn find that its realy beautiful.
Glory to our Lord! Ave Maria! Viva Il Papa!
HailMary53 1 year ago
@HailMary53 even the fact of "hail" mary.... if u read the bible rev 22:8
osamauremama 1 year ago
@osamauremama What?
Ave Maria
HailMary53 1 year ago
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osamauremama 1 year ago
@osamauremama what didnt i clearify this? Yea the members of the church had sinned and killed hundred of people....what do you want to prove with this? That the Catholic Church has sinners in its midst? What other church doesn"t?
Viva il Papa!
HailMary53 1 year ago
@HailMary53 the fact of the matter is they killed Christians those who were following God's Commands and did not want to follow the law of the papacy. That is my point.... The papacy is now in control because of the brutal torture and killings of innocent Christians. The Bible testifies they are the beast who came out of the water.
osamauremama 1 year ago
@osamauremama we are not trying to determine here the beast of revelation i would debate you all you want on that the point of this debate is why r we even bringing this topic up? there are other churches out there that have been killing and anything sinful against God and it was even the church itself..in the Catholic church it was people acting in the name of the church not the church itself. so i say again whats the point? would this not make the church true?
Long live the Pope!
HailMary53 1 year ago
@HailMary53 All i am asking is for you to look at the facts and stop being so stubborn. Look at the history of how they came to power. John 16:2, Jesus explained a time will come when the disciples would be killed, and the ones who killed them would think they were doing somthing good for God. The pope has no authority what so ever, yet you believe he is the greatest. God didnt give him his kingdom, Satan did
osamauremama 1 year ago
@osamauremama I am stubborn for faith. What about them coming in to power? I know the church had faults but would that make the church not the true church? If this is about papal authority i advise you to google it on a catholic website to see its point of view. I have seen the other thoughts on it...its the same thing the pope is satan, antichrist, evil, etc. But i have yet to see anyone not use the bible to describe it..the bible is a catholic book...look how it came to be
Ave Maria
HailMary53 1 year ago
This video bears out the fulfillment of Bible prophecy. The first beast of Revelation 13 is the papacy. The second beast of that chapter, that honors the first beast, is the United States of America.The U.S. is that beast that appears gentle and peaceful at first, having two lamb-like horns, but then finally becomes a tyranny, speaking as a dragon, imitating and mimicking the first beast, speaking as a dragon.The Founding Fathers purposed that our government would favor no religion over another.
NationalApostasy 1 year ago
@NationalApostasy Also Daniels 3 and 7 point out the Roman papacy as the anti christ
osamauremama 1 year ago
God delivered protestants from the Inquisition, opening up the New World where they could establish a new nation upon the broad foundation of civil and religious liberty. Protestants have fully apostatized in going back to Rome, for opposing which their ancestors endured the fiercest persecution. Hence the Lord's call to His people still in those churches, "Babylon is fallen, is fallen." "Come out of her, My people." Apostate protestants and the papacy are leading the U.S. to national ruin.
NationalApostasy 1 year ago
@NationalApostasy im sorry but religious freedom is beautiful but that also opened up the churches of the KKK, Satanists, and that church that claims to be baptist they protest the soldiers funerals (GOd BLess the armed forces) and have you noticed that the Catholic CHurch is the church in fact the only church that has remained in existence ever since Jesus himself? It has never once fallen i dont think that the church is babylon.
VIva il Papa and Glory to God!
HailMary53 1 year ago
@HailMary53 How do we know the true church? Only by the word of God. The Catholic church, instead of teaching obedience to the Bible, dispensed with the 4th Sabbath commandment: "Sunday is our MARK of authority...the church is above the Bible, and this transference of Sabbath observance is proof of that fact." - Catholic Record of London, Ontario Sept. 1, 1923. "The Sunday...is purely a creation of the Catholic Church." American Catholic Quarterly Review, January 1883.
NationalApostasy 1 year ago
@NationalApostasy Ok your jumping around all over the place what do you want to know. You brought up the inquisition, ill debate you anytime on the authority of the church but you cannot just change subjects like that. Youre going off topic that is another discussion. But fine well bring it there.
HailMary53 1 year ago
@HailMary53 I brought up the Sabbath because you are insisting the papacy is the true church and I was showing that any church that does away with one of God's commandments can not possibly be the true church. The Bible defines sin as the transgression of the law. Read 2nd Thessalonians 2: The apostle Paul is predicting the rise of the papacy and refers to the pope as "the man of sin" and "the son of perdition." A prayerful, humble study of the Scriptures would show you Rome's character.
NationalApostasy 1 year ago
@NationalApostasy First the papacy is not the church it is a part of the church, the true church i might add of God The Roman Catholic Church. We did not do away with the sabbath only move it to a more understandable time. Sunday is the day Jesus rose from the dead. I think that you believe this and if not than im wasting my time. St. Paul is telling teh Thessalonians that the end of the world is not now(back when he was writing this letter) instead he tells them the events that must occur...
HailMary53 1 year ago
@HailMary53 "But in vain they do worship Me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men." Matt. 15:9."He that saith, I know Him, and keepeth not His commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him." 1 John 2:4. "To the law and to the testimony: if they speak not according to this word, it is because there is no light in them." Isaiah 8:20. "He that turneth away his ear from hearing the law, even his prayer shall bemabomination." Proverbs 28:9.
NationalApostasy 1 year ago
@NationalApostasy Matt 15:9 Talks about a prophesy of Isaiah about the Jews. 1 John 2:4 what about it? That because the church sinned means that the truth is not in it? FALSE because all have sinned (with exception of Mary) and if I use your logic than heaven is impossible. Isaiah 8:20 is not the same in my bible therefore i cant see what you read. Proverbs 28:9 Your using it wrong, it really means prayer offered in bad faith is displeasing to God. Matt 15:6,9 is different from what i have......
HailMary53 1 year ago
@HailMary53 "Ye made the commandment of God of none effect by your tradition. . . . In vain they do worship Me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men." Matt. 15:6, 9.
NationalApostasy 1 year ago
@HailMary53 "Hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments. He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.
But whoso keepeth his word, in him verily is the love of God perfected: hereby know we that we are in him. He that saith he abideth in him ought himself also so to walk, even as he walked." 1 John 2:3-7.
NationalApostasy 1 year ago
@NationalApostasy I can not help you there. Revelation is too symbolic for me to understand but I can surely tell you that the church is the bride of Christ not a beast.
Glory to our Lord! Ave Maria! Viva Il Papa!
HailMary53 1 year ago
@NationalApostasy When has the Catholic CHurch ever condemned the Word of God? When has the Catholic CHurch ever said dont read the bible thats bad listen to the priest and only him. I dont think that the church has ever mentioned a thing like that. Thats reading the Bible. Next is the Sabbath i don't know your religion by name but i can tell you that the church has that power to change such practices. Recall that God gives the church authority to bind and loose on earth. and it will be bound..
HailMary53 1 year ago
@HailMary53 It appears that you do not know the history of your church. For hundreds of years the circulation of the Bible was prohibited. The people were forbidden to read it or to have it in their houses, and unprincipled priests and prelates interpreted its teachings to sustain their pretensions. Thus the pope came to be almost universally acknowledged as the vicegerent of God on earth, endowed with authority over church and state.
NationalApostasy 1 year ago
@NationalApostasy loosed in heaven. Read Matt 18:18 where God gives the church its authority over things on earth. Jesus as we know is lord of the Sabbath. (Matt12:8) continue on to find out that the Lord gave this authority over to his apostles more specifically Peter (Matt 10:40, Matt 16:19, Matt 28:1-6) In response to the Church being more authoritative than teh word, who spoke these words? a bishop, a pope? I don't know who said this wrote it. And id be very careful about sola scriptura...
HailMary53 1 year ago
@HailMary53 You would be very careful about "sola scriptura"? If I were you, I would be very careful about setting up man's word above the word of the living God. God wrote the Ten Commandments upon two tables of stone with HIS OWN finger, and said REMEMBER the Sabbath day to keep it holy. The pope comes along and says, no forget that, do what I say, keep Sunday holy instead. You are honoring popery above God. God gives no man or entity the power to change His word or commandments.
NationalApostasy 1 year ago
@NationalApostasy Where in the bible does it saay by word alone? In fact look towards the bottom of 2 Thessolonians 2:15. He is telling them to continue with following their traditions. Omg than was St Paul teh Antichrist? The entire bible was at one point a tradition. it was not a book that literally fell from heaven. It continually developed until the church decided for it to be put together. You are wrong btw because the church did lock away the bibles only because they were extremely....
HailMary53 1 year ago
@NationalApostasy expensive, old, only a few copies existed etc. You know why? Because teh printing press was not invented till 1439 (or around that time period) and every single copy of the bible was hand written by monks carefully. Every single copy had taken years to copy down and be finished. You wanna do that? Than have someone take it home and get accidentally burned, dirty, etc? The book was kept in latin so it could be used as a universal book. Not everyone back than could read their...
HailMary53 1 year ago
@NationalApostasy own language. If you wanted to be teh monk that copied those books for people to only get it dirty and destroyed than be my guest. If God gave no man that power than we are wasting our time here. You need to read that bible and see that he did give the pope that power. There are many and I mean many verses that support this fact! Bible and tradition go hand in hand. The word is tradition and tradition is in the word! And you call the pope the antichrist? Why is it than that...
HailMary53 1 year ago
@HailMary53 Peter was not the first pope. That is a deception of the papacy and easily disproved. The Catholic religion is full false doctrines and many of the doctrines are based on paganism. When Cornelius fell down at Peter's feet, and worshipped him, "Peter took him up, saying, Stand up; I myself also am a man." Acts 10:26. Peter refused the worship of man, but the pope encourages it.
NationalApostasy 1 year ago
@NationalApostasy Peter was the first pope, what was Peter you are the rock and upon this rock I shall builld my church? Wasn't it Peter who spoke with authority when the Holy Spirit descended upon the apostles? Isnt Peter the one who is mentioned more than any other apostle in the BIble? Isnt Peter always mentioned first before any other apostle? Btw Peter refuses it and so does the pope. We have never nor will we start bowing down in worship to the pope. And if we did it was toward his office.
HailMary53 1 year ago
@NationalApostasy of being the vicar of Christ not to be worshipped. It was for who he represented not who he was. And what false documents did the church apporve? hmm bring it really those things are facts. What is 1 John 2:3-7 supposed to prove? Oh my gosh your one of those that believe in that? uhh.... nvm you need to find someone or somthing that can explain revelation to you because reading the word without guidance of something like the church will have you make assumptions without fact...
HailMary53 1 year ago
@HailMary53 Mathew 23:9
osamauremama 1 year ago
@NationalApostasy we have had popes ever since Peter(the apostle) aand the end has still not come?
Viva il Papa! Deo Gratias! Ave Maria!
HailMary53 1 year ago
@NationalApostasy because nowhere in teh bible does it say that. Where in the bible does it say by word alone is man saved. In fact the bible goes says the oppisite.(Matt 16:18-19, Matt 18:17-18, Luke 10:16) Gods law? Its Gods law for the pope to have this power. Look again at the bible. I see much truth being bent here.
Deo Gratias!
HailMary53 1 year ago
@HailMary53 "Sunday is a Catholic institution and its claim to observance can be defended only on Catholic principles .... From beginning to end of Scripture there is not a single passage that warrants the transfer of weekly public worship from the last day of the week to the first." Catholic Press, Sydney, Australia, August, 1990. BUT Jesus said: "But in vain they do worship Me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men." Matt. 15:9. Who will we obey, HailMary53, man or God?
NationalApostasy 1 year ago
@HailMary53 "The Church made a sacred day of Sunday... largely because it was the weekly festival of the sun; for it was a definite Christian policy to take over the pagan festivals endeared to the people by tradition, and to give them a Christian significance." - Arthur Weigall, The Paganism in Our Christianity, 1928, p. 145. The word of God is the only thing in our world that we can trust and rely on. Whatever contradicts it is a deception of the devil. Please see 2 Thes. chapter 2.
NationalApostasy 1 year ago
@NationalApostasy Anyway what is your point with the Inquisition? What are yo trying to prove to yourself? It does not affect me as a Catholic reguardless of the sins of the church it is still the church of GOd!
Sit nomen Domini Benedictus!
HailMary53 1 year ago
@HailMary53 No, not true. The papacy is the apostate church! It teaches disobedience to the word of God. Jesus said, "WHOSOEVER shall break one of the least of these commandments and teach men so shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven." The papacy boastfully changed God's law, and says,"The pope has power to change times, to abrogate laws, and to dispense with all things even the precepts of Christ." --Decretal De Translat. Episcop. Cap. Who will you believe, Jesus or the pope?
NationalApostasy 1 year ago
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The Pope is as phony as the politicians. He's the richest man alive and the Vatican has large shares in weapon and oil corporations. No wonder Bush and him are so buddy buddy. Wake up people...
jwils924 1 year ago
@jwils924 you call visiting a country in desperate need of a spiritual uprising political? and the man has more stressed on him than any president. THink running a country is hard? try runnning a couple of them plus a billion people plus another hundred million watching you and basically breathing down your neck constantly. Who are you to judge him?
God BLess you Holy Father!
HailMary53 1 year ago
President Bush and Obama are on the wrong track. Whenever the church has obtained political power, she has used it to punish dissent from her doctrines. The papacy slaughtered millions upon millions of God-fearing souls whose only crime was worshiping God according to their own conscience. Men are closing their eyes to the real character of Romanism - she is unchanged. The people of our land need to be aroused to resist the advances of this most dangerous foe to civil and religious liberty.
NationalApostasy 2 years ago
@NationalApostasy The church? or people doing it in the name of the church?
Viva il Papa
HailMary53 1 year ago
@HailMary53 BOTH. Through the centuries the papacy has slaughtered millions upon millions of God fearing men, women and children whose only crime was that they could not let the voice of the pope stand above the voice of God in His Word. There was the stake for those who would not concede to her claims. There were massacres on a scale that will never be known until revealed in the judgment. Every principle of the papacy that existed in past ages exists today. She possesses the same cruelty.
NationalApostasy 1 year ago
@NationalApostasy the pope is not the church itself no one man is the enitre church. Many sins have been committed in the name of the Holy CHurhc just like many have sinned in the MOst holy Name of God. I have never known a catholic at least a catholic who knew his catechism to ever place the pope above God. the inquisition is entirely different from the way you describe it. it was a mass tortrue and muder committed in the name of the church for the church but has nothing to do with the church..
HailMary53 1 year ago
@NationalApostasy being false. the inquisition was meant for those who claimed to be christian only for political reasons and who were still practicing muslim or jews. every murder is a sin and life should have been treated better. But that doesn't stop the church from being the one true church of God and the pope from being his representative on earth. it was in the word itself that said that there would be ravenous wolves in the churches midst(Acts 20:29, Matt 7:15)
HailMary53 1 year ago
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@HailMary53 If we desire to understand the determined cruelty of Satan, manifested for hundreds of years, not among those who never heard of God, but in the very heart of Christendom, we have only to look at the history of Romanism. In many cases the infernal process was repeated to the utmost limit of human endurance, until nature gave up the struggle, and the sufferer hailed death as a sweet release. It is only the restraints of civil governments that stays her persecutions for now.
NationalApostasy 1 year ago
@NationalApostasy i dont have a clue to what youre trying to say.. Say it in plain words so that everyone here can understand.
HailMary53 1 year ago
Quite unnerving
McTuffel 2 years ago
Commenters, Show some respect!
kronos251 2 years ago
aaaahhhhhhhh hahahahahahah
Orwell's rolling in his grave
malakhhatzadik 3 years ago
All hail the "Pope".
888Hannibal888 3 years ago