Seems that most music and jazz went backwards after fusion came out here. The music was supposed to soar and continue to create new and fresh visions and landscapes...but that really didn't happen...most of mankind hath peaked...
@videolover61 not really.. Jazz is still going pretty strong, there are still some pretty awesome jazz bands out there. check out The Bad Plus, Joshua Redman, Ari Hoening.. also, Acid Jazz is pretty cool nowadays.. check out Gotan Project and St Germain
Is Joe Z. dead (forget hot to spell his last name)
its hard to beleive he was 49 when weather report got famous after adding Jaco. He was one of those guys thats just blessed with good genes as far as aging goes. Whats his story, did he do any solo work or record with any other well known bands. I read the book about Jaco, How like how Joe doesn't say anything bad about Jaco in the closing where people comment about Jaco. Saying he was the kindest guy, always remembered your birthday.
yah hes dead he also was a heavy drinker too and he lived to be lived to be 75 thats long life an he played alot of music alot musicians didnt live to be that long due to all that stress of music moving from one place to another but he did
yo PrZ if critics didnt like weather report w/Jaco its cuz they mock what thay dont understand.If they cant pigeonhole it theydont like.This era of Weather Report is the pinnacle of virtuousity and the cutting edge of compositionwho cares what critics say.Their profession is ridiculous.
Maybe outside Weather Report. Unfortunately, "Jaco years" are the time of WR decline...
I know, if you knew where I live, I'd be dead by tomorrow...Jaco is probably the best BASS PLAYER, no argument there, but he didn't bring much CREATIVELY to the band. Except his overblown ego and stage eccentricity.
aaaaw c'mon, Sweetnighter, Tailspinnin, Body, is that creative? Repetitive riffs and psycho jams, i dont think that is much creative, they've used to worry more with rythm than melody.
Oh man... I've been listening to WR for 35 years which is like almost your two lifetimes? Believe me, the arguably best WR albums are Mysterious Traveller, Sweetnighter, Tale Spinin', Black Market. Read some OLD reviews by critics who dug this amazing music. OK, Heavy Weather b/c was sooo popular (who wrote 'Birdland'? The most popular one). 'Body' is great, if you listen to it many times, you'll get it. And what's your counter-argument? Portret of Tracy? LOL.
NO we argue over three views of a secret and barbary coast... havana are all DEAD ROCKING ! sooo... but yeh i no ur point... weather report wer always awsome... not aat a certien time,... just always.
I was like you thinking that Jaco is some weird rocker who had no appreciation for real jazz music. And then I discovered that some of the most punchy WR tunes were actually written by him. Shock and horror struck my heart... How about a tune like Three Views of a Secret, huh?
Naaaah... Weather Report was Zawinul and Shorter. And since Jaco joined the band, Wayne lost interest, and anything remotely interesting came from Joe. RIP.
I respect your opinion PrZemek, but i think CREATIVELY talking, Jaco gave a "bass" identity to WR.
No doubt about how great bass players Miroslav Vitous and Alphonso Johnson were on WR but the mark that Jaco Pastorius left in WR music is quite remarkable in every tune of every album Jaco played.
Joe and Jaco were such great music explorers. R.I.P.
Thanks for your respectful answer, but I stick to my opinion. Sure, we may differ in our tastes, but the reviews (back THEN) were much more favourable to WR before Jaco joined the band. Cheers.
I love this one!!! Jaco...i miss u so much
groovemak 2 months ago
Sounds like something from outer space!!
organham 6 months ago
Seems that most music and jazz went backwards after fusion came out here. The music was supposed to soar and continue to create new and fresh visions and landscapes...but that really didn't happen...most of mankind hath peaked...
videolover61 1 year ago
@videolover61 not really.. Jazz is still going pretty strong, there are still some pretty awesome jazz bands out there. check out The Bad Plus, Joshua Redman, Ari Hoening.. also, Acid Jazz is pretty cool nowadays.. check out Gotan Project and St Germain
bongmail 9 months ago
00.00 - 02.10
genius.
BigBuddha3 1 year ago
Albedo ... Jose Meet's Sun Ra" ...
kingzvalet 1 year ago
Albedo ...
kingzvalet 1 year ago
Zawinul's synthesizer playing on here is 100% killer. Beautiful.
buscrates 1 year ago
Is the drummer Peter Erskine?
sanjak 2 years ago
@sanjak yes, i guess so... when he still had hairs.. :)
cicciofritto 1 year ago
@sanjak yes
baronericciardi 1 year ago
@sanjak Yes
bobvanluijt 1 year ago
Is Joe Z. dead (forget hot to spell his last name)
its hard to beleive he was 49 when weather report got famous after adding Jaco. He was one of those guys thats just blessed with good genes as far as aging goes. Whats his story, did he do any solo work or record with any other well known bands. I read the book about Jaco, How like how Joe doesn't say anything bad about Jaco in the closing where people comment about Jaco. Saying he was the kindest guy, always remembered your birthday.
222Lightning 2 years ago
yah hes dead he also was a heavy drinker too and he lived to be lived to be 75 thats long life an he played alot of music alot musicians didnt live to be that long due to all that stress of music moving from one place to another but he did
jryuwah 2 years ago
Wayne Shorter always seems so calm and unflappable. This music just rooted me to the spot when I heard it in the '70s.
This band was so unique and different and real.
swimologist8 2 years ago
Don't understand all the comments on who did what in this cut.This music is out of this world. A great arrangement!!!
organham 2 years ago
yo PrZ if critics didnt like weather report w/Jaco its cuz they mock what thay dont understand.If they cant pigeonhole it theydont like.This era of Weather Report is the pinnacle of virtuousity and the cutting edge of compositionwho cares what critics say.Their profession is ridiculous.
sorgi9 2 years ago
Never heard of WR before this, only looked for scarlet woman. I can say that they are interesting, and I like them.
chaosopher23 2 years ago
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77blackwings 2 years ago
Super Mario rocks =)
adv20 2 years ago
WP!!! At it's best !! Glad i was around to see this all the other great fusion bands!! Light years from where wew are today!! R.I.P. Joe Z!!!
peterbannekerr 2 years ago
The "dream team" of fusion jazz.
jdrew1130 2 years ago
it's very good indeed, but i still prefer Acuña on drums and Badrena on percussion.
freitasnetuno 2 years ago
And Alphonso Johnson on bass.
PrZemek44 2 years ago
no way, Jaco rules =)
freitasnetuno 2 years ago
Maybe outside Weather Report. Unfortunately, "Jaco years" are the time of WR decline...
I know, if you knew where I live, I'd be dead by tomorrow...Jaco is probably the best BASS PLAYER, no argument there, but he didn't bring much CREATIVELY to the band. Except his overblown ego and stage eccentricity.
RIP Joe and Jaco.
PrZemek44 2 years ago
aaaaw c'mon, Sweetnighter, Tailspinnin, Body, is that creative? Repetitive riffs and psycho jams, i dont think that is much creative, they've used to worry more with rythm than melody.
freitasnetuno 2 years ago
Oh man... I've been listening to WR for 35 years which is like almost your two lifetimes? Believe me, the arguably best WR albums are Mysterious Traveller, Sweetnighter, Tale Spinin', Black Market. Read some OLD reviews by critics who dug this amazing music. OK, Heavy Weather b/c was sooo popular (who wrote 'Birdland'? The most popular one). 'Body' is great, if you listen to it many times, you'll get it. And what's your counter-argument? Portret of Tracy? LOL.
PrZemek44 2 years ago
Even in 'Jaco years' all best tunes were written by Zawinul. Talk to you in 35 years. Cheers.
PrZemek44 2 years ago
NO we argue over three views of a secret and barbary coast... havana are all DEAD ROCKING ! sooo... but yeh i no ur point... weather report wer always awsome... not aat a certien time,... just always.
bassbiglik0 2 years ago
I was like you thinking that Jaco is some weird rocker who had no appreciation for real jazz music. And then I discovered that some of the most punchy WR tunes were actually written by him. Shock and horror struck my heart... How about a tune like Three Views of a Secret, huh?
brooklyn358 2 years ago
Naaaah... Weather Report was Zawinul and Shorter. And since Jaco joined the band, Wayne lost interest, and anything remotely interesting came from Joe. RIP.
PS. To me Jaco was a great jazzman. RIP, too
PrZemek44 2 years ago
I respect your opinion PrZemek, but i think CREATIVELY talking, Jaco gave a "bass" identity to WR.
No doubt about how great bass players Miroslav Vitous and Alphonso Johnson were on WR but the mark that Jaco Pastorius left in WR music is quite remarkable in every tune of every album Jaco played.
Joe and Jaco were such great music explorers. R.I.P.
SrBridges 2 years ago
Thanks for your respectful answer, but I stick to my opinion. Sure, we may differ in our tastes, but the reviews (back THEN) were much more favourable to WR before Jaco joined the band. Cheers.
PrZemek44 2 years ago
'Scarlet Woman' got me hooked on Weather Report 35 years ago. It's Alphonso Johnson's tune.
Mysterious Traveller- the arguably best WR album by their best line up.
PrZemek44 3 years ago
fantastic..
fluffybal 3 years ago