Is using Misbaha (Prayer Beads For Tasbeeh) Bidah? Sheik Yusuf Estes

[WeBorn2DieAnyTime]

As Salaam aleykum Do Tasbeeh with your right hand. From our 5 fingers we have 3 lines. 5 x 3 = 15 5 x 3 = 15 15 X 2 = 30 Then at everyones PALM we have 3 lines. 30 + 3 = 33. Allahu Akbar 33 times, SubhanAllah 33 times Alhamdulillah 33 times, And to make it 100, I add ASH-HADU AN LAA ILAAHA ILA ALLAH WAHDAHU LAA SHARIKA LAHU - WA ASH-HADU ANA MUHAMMADAN ABDUHU WA RASULL (Salallaahu aleyhi wa salaam) I will like to ask if it is bidah for me to add the last 3 lines from my PALM. ws.

[albulghariyy]

WRONG AGAIN SIR. THERE WAS SAHABA WHO USED THE DATE STONES,AMONG THE SALAF. GET THE STORY STR8

[MrYoomg]

@albulghariyy Please give some reference to support your statement to correct this one.

[22MUSLIMAH]

@albulghariyy Salamu Alaikum,The SAHABA(ra) NEVER USED BEADS OR DID ANYTHING THAT WAS NOT DONE BY OUR BELOVED they even would ride their horses exactly where he sws did. the men in the masjid that abdullahi ibn MUS'UD spoke to MASJID where taba'iin as ibn masud(ra) says to them ''u innovate while his sahaba are here in many numbers etc''. even if they were sahaba it was refuted and they stooped.Just correcting that THE SAHABA R FREE FROM THIS AND ANY OTHER BID'A and Allahu a'lam

[mohammadibnyaqub]

@Aikosar If you cant grow beard obviously there's no force on you to make yourself grow one. Read the narrations on growing the beard; it clearly shows that a person who GROWS a beard ie. his beard grows, he should leave it. no-one said anything about you have to force yourself to have a beard. i notice you dont sound very confident in what you believe in. anyhow, may God Almighty guide us all to the truth. Aameen

[bossdonmo175]

Its bida

[MountAnalogue]

I don't understand why an omnipotent being would care about beads or hands and whatnot. Surely this "Allah" fellow makes room for error, if he even considers these trivial things to constitute it? I mean making the universe is serious business, and after all that I'm sure having people grow a beard out of respect for you would just be silly. I mean seriously. I'm not trying to be ignorant here but just think about it for a second.

[mohammadibnyaqub]

@MountAnalogue You are using your brain to figure out matters of revelation; the Prophet Muhammad Sall Allaahu alayhi wasallam told the men to Grow their beards and trim the moustaches. This is an authentic narration and whatever the Prophet peace be upon him told us is true and revelation from the Almighty Allaah. Hence men must grow the beard regardless of what a human "thinks" is right or wrong. Allaah knows best; He created you and He wants the men to keep beards so this is the ruling.

[MountAnalogue]

@mohammadibnyaqub

but this is GOD we're talking about. Isn't it insulting to God to think that he's so concerned with such pettyhuman matters? I mean really. God man

[mohammadibnyaqub]

@MountAnalogue Yes. God. The One who Created man and woman; therein there are physical differences. A man has facial hair; a woman doesn't. Why is it so surprising that God wants His creation to maintain their manhood as was created? Furthermore, please read above. Do not use intellect in matters of religion. devil did not prostrate to Adam when commanded; what reason did he give? he used his intellect over the command of God. So to answer no it is not an insult to God, it is obedience to Him.

[MountAnalogue]

@mohammadibnyaqub

but if God wants men to have beards why not use his deivine will and omnipotence to cause all men to be unable to shave? it sems as if, with the abilitiy of "sin", God is contradicting himself. Allah could, being all powerful and all merciful, snap his fingers so To speak and allow everyone to go to jannah immediately but the question is, if so why isnt he? what does he have to gain in seeing us struggle either for or against him? how can he gain if he already has all?

[0nly1truth]

Anyone That Doesn't Follow The Sunnah Of Prophet Muhammad Ibn 'Abdullah (Salla Allahu 'Alaihi Wa Salam) Has Gone Astray!

Abdullaah Ibn Amr said, "I saw Allaah's Messenger (SAW) counting the tasbeeh on the right [hand]." Recorded by Abu Daawood, Tirmidthee and others, it is a well known Saheeh Hadeeth.

That the Prophet commanded them to count on their fingers, for they will be questioned and interrogated [about it]" This is a Hasan Hadeeth recorded by Ahmad, Abu Daawood & others)

[Attabligh]

This is the problem here , Mr yusuf and many other who are said to be great scholars are just a big problem in ummah as bother below @maturidi333 mentions a hadith , and also i remmeber one of the hadiths that Aisha(R.A) did zikr on beads , and i think there are also many hadiths mentioned from the early year after s.a.w passed away till the years of khairul quroon,and i know Mr yusuf is not an alim , many allah give him the haq and give him istiqama.

[Maturidi333]

Abu Hurayra possessed a thread with 2000 knots and would not sleep until he had used it all for dhikr. (Abu Nuaym and Dhahabi in Siyar). hafiz ibn hajar always carried dhikr beads in his hands as stated by his student in al-Jawahir. Also imam Suyuti wrote a book on dhikr beads called, "The Profits in dhikr beads."

[xSweetHoneyBeex]

thank you very much fo this, very good introduction to the tasbih

[cosmothechihuahuadog]

you actually have to say allahu akbar 34 times

and tesbih is not innovation

[xSweetHoneyBeex]

@cosmothechihuahuadog really? i thought only 33

[cosmothechihuahuadog]

@xSweetHoneyBeex well at least in sufism,they taugth me that

i guess it differs if you're sunni or shi'a

[244681]

@xSweetHoneyBeex it is 33 times and at the end u should say: "La ilaha illa Allah wahdahu la sharikah lah, lahul mulk wa lahul hamd wa huwa a'la kulli shai'in qadir"

[lalamusa1]

@cosmothechihuahuadog After salah all prayed 33 times. Prior to going sleep allahuakbar is to be prayed 34 times, as according to sahih bukhari.

[Anfaal786]

Misbaha is innovation