@SuperIce90 Yes but you must hit the boss a decent amount of time to get loots not just hit it once and afk and let other ppl waste their pots on killing him
@Xillien13 TBA but i think it will be out in Q3 2012 (they do an open beta in March tho xD) 20 Feb. will there also be a Huge amout of Extra info on Gamesites becaus they are playint the beta whole month atm...
You're not proving anything here. All of the GW2 community would put you under their classification of "Loud, obnoxious, attention-seeking WoW player." You're doing nothing besides furthering the stereotype, and making WoW players look bad.
GW2 is going to be way better than WoW, no matter what you say. I anticipate the day you buy the game and shoot up, because that's how it's going to be. Enjoy your Pandas buddy.
they are making what is in essence a soft trinity, damage, support and control, the idea however is not to need 1 control, 1 support and 3 damage for every dungeon or need people to specialise into them at all, if you want go full hybrid, go support/control go whatever, if you want to bring 3 support/control hybrids and 2 damage go for it, if you want 4 damage/support hybrids and one control go for it.
its about letting you play however you want to play.
"And no trinity system. How they will cover the healing is beyond me."
as fexcinema noted, everyone has a healing ability but on top of this you have what is called support, everyclass has support abilities and can specialise if they want or go more hybrid, in essence a support based character will be buffing, blocking attacks from hitting team mates, taking off debuffs and part of his role will be back up healing.
also, if you just want to team up with a large group of people to take on hard content there are dynamic events around the world which scale up to 100 people, far larger than any raid in wow however these are open to everyone so organisation amongst all of them is imposable unless every person their is part of your guild, team work and skill will come into play in the dungeons mostly.
"I said they are copying the grindy, WoW style MMORPG."
and yet in every interview and almost any time they released information they almost always mention how they are specifically trying to end grindy content and how they dont want their game to be a grind, your comment completely contradicts the whole ethos of GW2.
"And what worries me is that there is no raid in this game"
raids dont work, why do you think wow killed the 40-mans and the 25-mans?
"You are a dumb moron, you know why? Because if level cap being 20 worked, then they wouldn't have raised the level cap to 80 in GW2. Why raise it? "
you do realise that the exact same thing could be said of every wow expansion of all time and infact could be said of world of warcraft, in the warcraft the games the level cap was 10 if memory serves, if that worked then they wouldn't have raised the cap to 60 in WoW.
@LichKingLives ehh, no ur wrong about the kids thing, when a game is to hard for kids they leave just like in GW2, but there is kids in every game so idc really
@LichKingLives The trinity system is that they dont want people to be healer if they want to same for tanks and dps. they added something called "control" spells (other word CC) for everyone, and every class (profession) got healing spells, and there is also something called "the downed state" which u get new abilities and everyone can get u back up on your feets
@LichKingLives u are retarded -.- so YOUR saying that wow had better graphics then GW2? jesus christ even rift has better graphics then wow, wow is a cartoon game for kids with no skill, and infact GW2 has a persoanlized storyline, WoW hasn't
@LichKingLives you a retard, u know why? what is GW2 copying from wow? nothing, wow sucks, they destroyed the game late TBC it became easy to get epics, and u say no grind in wow? then u don't know what grind is -.-
@LichKingLives The combat system of both games is very different and its left to personal preference as to which system a person enjoys more, not to what you say or believe. WoW has done well in large content patch department, that much I can say.... but after so many years, regardless of all the updated content, it is still the exact same game fundamentally which has grown very old and tiresome ( Guild Wars has grown old and tiresome for me as well because its the same as it was so long ago ).
@LichKingLives Well if you are truly not a troll then I would have to leave this arguement to personal opinion because I tend to disagree with you. Guild Wars was released around the same time frame as WoW and Guild Wars had a larger pull on me. I felt like it was more fun and more about skill rather than gear. WoW didnt have half of the features it has now back when it initially released, infact Guild Wars was a larger game and over time just hasnt been maintained through content patches.
@XxDiddyDidItxX Things get old as time goes on, thats how it works. Guild Wars 2 is a fresh idea that looks very fun aside from some of the difficulties im seeing on the bosses, I feel they should be harder but thats just me. The original arguement was that this dragon is stolen from WoW when it is infact not... there are some simillarities between the shatterer and deathwing but they are nowhere near the exact same. Art for this dragon was released before art for Deathwing was released, explain
@LichKingLives Of course you hate Guild Wars lol, dont lie to yourself and to be completely honest I dont care all that much... so attempting to anger me just wont work, its a video game for christ sakes!
@LichKingLives No... Its just very obvious you are a troll. Theres no arguement to be made everything you are bringing up has been done far before WoW was released. If anyone is being copied its MMOs that have been released in the past before WoW and Guild Wars.
@LichKingLives its funny because you think you are a good troll, the only problem is how obvious youve made yourself out to be a troll. No one is gonna take you seriously if they KNOW you are a troll bud, sorry about your luck. Your name is a dead giveaway.
WoW has ripped off every MMO before it and continues to rip off MMOs that are competing with it by copying their mechanics... so please pull your head out of your asses.
Not sure anyone really knows what drops from boss fights yet... the items we saw in this vid are more than likely placeholders that hold relevance in a beta/show test setting.
if there is any wow fanboys out here on this video pls READ: WoW is getting destroyed in Mists of Pandaria... It was DESTROYED in the end of TBC because everything became easy regards getting epics... in WotLK i used 1 WEEKEND getting a full purple gear set... my first week i got T10 shoulders... In rift it isn't that easy... AND Deathwing is easy, every1 i know playing wow sais so ;) GW1 is even more fun then wow even though it has bader graphics because it's hard
The PvE in this game has a possibility of being dull. From watching this fight and the other large dragon they have released so far it seems like it'll be a zergfest with a few different mechanics zergs can do on each fight.
these adds need to be taken out at range otherwise they will do allot of AoE damage on death, there are fingers of Tequatl who will grab players who go to close and fling them towards the boss to be attacked and more general mod types aswell.
a large part of the fight is the use of turrets, they can be used partly for extra damage but also because at certain points tequatl will raise bonewalls that protect him and you use the turrets to destroy them (continued in next post)
however the turrets are under constant attack from the adds, so you need to defend them, if they are left alone the NPC engineers will be killed and the turrets destroyed, if this happens you need to revive the engineers and they will rebuild the turrets.
there is also an Asuran mega laser which through out the fight charges, when charged a group of NPC engineers will head over to prepare it to fire, you need to (continued in next post)
protect the engineers or the laser will fail, if you manage to defend it the laser will fire, stunning Tequatl for a few seconds and allowing players to do more damage to him.
all in all a fair bit, especially for a level 30 open world boss.
even at level 1 bosses have AoE's, fears and all that stuff, i hate to think what sort of things we'll see in actual dungeons.
also, do remember, there is a difference between these open world fights and proper dungeons, these are meant to be accessed by everyone, they're adhoc, you cant really organise that too well and so zerging is inevitable (though thats not to say that a guild couldn't take charge of this fight if they wanted to)
the true team work, communication and all the rest will come from the dungeons which are limited to 5 man.
guys i hate wow i have stopped my subscription and i can say this game wont beat wow first of all it got no healers (maybe even tanks) so thats a smaller amount of people who will buy it and all the fights we have seen so far looks like a casual tanknspank boss we want more difficult games isnt it obvious? just look at the amount of sales dark souls and demon souls goot
no, it had supports, meaning that rather than standing at the back, watching green bars go up and down, you instead need to buffing, taking debuffs from friendly players, shielding them to mitigate damage, reviving them when they're down ASWELL as healing.
basically support is like healing but much, -much-, more active, if anything, if you liked healers(like myself) support is just improving on it.
again, this is replaced by control which is actually rather different, rather than just taking all the damage this is focusing more on slowing, stunning and reducing the damage enemies can make while also keeping them off of your team mates.
they aren't getting rid of tanks and healers, they're merely changing what they do, letting everyone do it and allowing hybrids, for instance you can make a warrior control and support hybrid if you want.
the reason everyone talks about them abolishing the holy trinity is because, while there is still a trinity of sorts, its not as strict, you dont need 1 control, 3 damage and 1 support for a group, if you want bring 5 hybrids, bring 2 control support hybrids and 3 damage, bring 4 damage/support hybrids and 1 control.
this system allows for more interesting group dynamics and also forces a higher level of communication and teamwork for groups.
"and all the fights we have seen so far looks like a casual tanknspank boss"
the dragon in the vid and others you might have seen so far are not dungeon bosses, they are just open world bosses, to my knowledge there has been no vids of dungeon bosses so far but we have been assured from press who have played that the dungeons are very hard with a high level of team work required.
the only one i think that has been on video is from the tutorial of the charr.
the boss in the charr tutorial, at level one, used fears aswell as adds and AoE damage, if thats what they are willing to throw at level 1's i'm scared for what level 80 bosses will do.
another one that comes to mind is one of the open world bosses, tequatl the sunless, hes a mid level DE boss, aswell as spawning different kinds of adds, he uses AoE's and also has tentacles that will grip and throw players trying to stand at the back towards him.
a large mechanic of the tequatl fight is the turrets, these turrets will be attacked by the adds, you will need to revive the engineers who the adds kill and defend the turrets or they get destroyed, you need the turrets because at intervals tequatl will make walls of bone around him that you need to the turrets to destroy aswell as providing extra damage normally.
you also have an asura mega laser that can be used at a specific point in the fight, (continued on next post)
when the mega laser is reader a group of engineer will start to prepare it, you need to defend them and if you manage this the laser will stun the boss for a few seconds.
so yeah, fair few mechanics for a mid level open world boss.
you want a hard game that requires allot of quick thinking and team work? GW2 is your game.
@HulluKId That's not even funny, one does't demonstrate things which aren't working as intended.
The game may be for Win32, but typically console button-mashing style (directional arrow movement, manual facing, keys for block or dodge, etc.) does not belong in RPG.
@IkarusKommt Umm... you're an absolute idiot. Your elitism is misplaced. RPG = Roleplaying game. Does this game have roleplaying in it? Yes. Is it a game? Yes. I hate to break it to you, but there can be RPGs with combat systems other than the overhead pause-and-strategise style. This is more immersive, for one.
@IkarusKommt so... every game with directional arrow movement, manual facing, keys for block or dodge are button-smashing game for you? huh you dont play lots of games then? because lots of games got at least some of those elements in them.
manual facing
Line of sight is not 360 degree you know?
keys for block or dodge
While magical arrows and got target seeking property buildin is pretty nice, moving to dodge arrows/projectiles works well in GW and makes ranger/ele spike class more balanced.
@IkarusKommt You kidding me? Every dragon in Skyrim has the same flight, ground mechanics every damn time you engage em.. It gets soo stale while your trying to do all the side quests. Im always over encumbered by damn bones and scales and i already have dragon scale armor. Imo skyrim is doing it wrong.
this is a MMO not a first person roleplay, i actually like bulk people fighting a dragon, it shows how powerful it actually is and is very good to look at
This video was made on Aug 22nd 2010. That was before Cata for WoW was released. That means that they had this boss up and going (in their apha/beta testing) before they ever released Deathwing into WoW. I am a longtime WoW fan and I don't see this as a Deathwing rip off. Those who do...Stop being childish.
GW2 will not kill WoW, their are to many people who love to pose with their roxx0r equipment.
And if they don´t have an eq that compares all their mistakes, they will quickly lose the pleasure..
I remember the hours I spent with GW:TB and it was a lot of fun.. in WoW you just follow the advices of guides..
To quote the german foreign minister "My english is not the yellow from the egg" (Idioms are difficult to translate.,, but "It's not exactly the bee's knee." will fit :D)
@MegaDiablo3 the fact it has the most members doesn't mean it's the best game,just means it has fans,most of the WoW people are quiting now anyway. Beside the fact WoW was a nice game back then just lured allot of people yeah. But at this moment there are way better games released for which you don't even have to pay. Beside the fact that for instance League of Legends has more players these days then WoW. So just to let you know that lol
yes, its also bleeding players badly, infact according to warcraftrealms there are only 3.2 millions active characters in all of EU and NA, granted its not an official website and its reliability can be argued, the fact that each quarter last year the game lost increasing numbers of subs is enough to show its fast decline.
also, if you want to talk just online gaming, league of legends has more players than wow.
@MegaDiablo3 Who cares about popularity lmfao its a boring grind fest to get to lvl 85 and then grind some more to get pvp gear. Where is the fun in that? How is the "best game" not fun? Fan boy much.
@Skulshok I just wanted to let your dumbass know that this is nothing like WoW. Just because it is open world and has big bosses doesn't mean it is like WoW. Go do some research then say that.
@Testosteronization only amateurs still play guildwars ... from, lets say, 3000 good players only 10 are still playing. so its kinda dead. some good pve guilds are still around.
but if you play guildwars for pvp its dead. some "pro kiddys" are farming empty hall with overpowered dervish / invoke ele and think they are good.
you wont find any real good players anymore (in pvp).
@Testosteronization Yeah. I bought it and I don't see many people which pisses me off because that $30 went to waste. But atleast I am supporting the company making Guild Wars 2 :)
something big like that dragon looks fake to everybody because its not as they thought it would be.... no reaction from the dragon at all just standing there to get killed for kids to get happy....i hope it has a hard mode or super hard or alse it doesnot worth playing it......where is that shiro tagachi the boss of guild wars 1....he was the real shit
@manimarc tbh this isnt even meant to be a hard boss, its just a world event and its lvl 40-50 in a max lvl 80 game, so yeah, higher lvl shit will be loads harder
1. Wrong its entirely possible, and I can even show you some examples
2. A simple gunshot would drown out all the noise and there's far more than that going on
3. No the chest was a terrible addition to the game that makes no logical sense. It first appeared in eotn, which overall was a lazy half ass campaign
Looks awesome, but i have a question: I just watched TERA online and there the game required from the player the ability to react fast (by dodging and aiming the skills).
I see there are crosshairs now and then, but do you have to aim, or just have the center of the screen close to it? (Autolock)
I started playing WoW in pre-bc, and stopped early cata. To all of the WoW players saying that it is dumb that the boss is just standing there, I have to ask you something. Do you remember possibly one of the greatest raid bosses of all time? The MC rag? How about C'thun? Oh wait, MANY bosses in WoW would just stand there unless your tank moved him. Please stop going to other mmo videos and bashing them, you're making yourselves look like idiots.Criticism is fine, plain insulting is annoying.
Want a social dedicated guild in gw2, its your lucky day check us out at edgeofdestiny.shivtr.com apply and introduce yourself in the forum, see you in game !
I played WoW for 5 years. I'm extremely disappointed with it.
Fuck that Panda faggotry garbage. Fuck WoW and Blizzard arrogant attitude. GW2 Is going to be the shit !!!
maxkolesne 8 hours ago
Lol all I can hear is destruction
unbreakablle 16 hours ago
nice vid,nice game- simply perfect. did you cut the sound from the intro out of a song ? if yeah i would like to now the name >.< pls
DavidSebastianOpiela 1 day ago
backpedal more scrub
Reggis420 1 day ago
göttliches spiel, aber magier sind eher doof, da die nicht von alleine attkn..
MultiIamlol 3 days ago
anyone know how i can get on this beta?
Chrisboxify 3 days ago
@Chrisboxify sign up for it
GhostxNappa9001 1 day ago
So everyone gets something after a boss raid ?
SuperIce90 4 days ago
@SuperIce90 Everyone who participated and contributed will get something yes.
Direheart66 3 days ago
@SuperIce90 Yes but you must hit the boss a decent amount of time to get loots not just hit it once and afk and let other ppl waste their pots on killing him
fouatih12 2 days ago
Limited Beta started today :D
just can't wait for it :D
Cyberdrache13794 6 days ago
@Cyberdrache13794 no.. that was press beta roflmo
fouatih12 2 days ago
nice intro
OverlordElliot 1 week ago
when does it come out?
Xillien13 1 week ago
@Xillien13 TBA but i think it will be out in Q3 2012 (they do an open beta in March tho xD) 20 Feb. will there also be a Huge amout of Extra info on Gamesites becaus they are playint the beta whole month atm...
TheDarkSteven 1 week ago
fuck deathwing, fuck shatterer.... guys, look at this game.... is awesome ;D
kawaiiCupcakexD 1 week ago
uckin owns wow
kriticalcheese 2 weeks ago
@LichKingLives
You're not proving anything here. All of the GW2 community would put you under their classification of "Loud, obnoxious, attention-seeking WoW player." You're doing nothing besides furthering the stereotype, and making WoW players look bad.
GW2 is going to be way better than WoW, no matter what you say. I anticipate the day you buy the game and shoot up, because that's how it's going to be. Enjoy your Pandas buddy.
FortooGadget 2 weeks ago 3
what the deathwing fight should have looked like
masterb00 2 weeks ago 7
@masterb00 fucking yea idd
gatedemon1 7 hours ago
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Fc.k boring Game!
KrnfxBR94 2 weeks ago
@KrnfxBR94 explain, elaborate. What makes it so BORING?
haven4444 2 weeks ago
@haven4444
the person who play it´s boring, if you play more dynamic gameplay, it´s awesome
matenri1o 1 week ago
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@haven4444 I can not explain well in English ! Sry but this game is Boring !
KrnfxBR94 1 week ago
@LichKingLives
i wish but unfortunately their offices are in america>.<
no, im just a fanboy.
ourorboros2 2 weeks ago
@LichKingLives
they are making what is in essence a soft trinity, damage, support and control, the idea however is not to need 1 control, 1 support and 3 damage for every dungeon or need people to specialise into them at all, if you want go full hybrid, go support/control go whatever, if you want to bring 3 support/control hybrids and 2 damage go for it, if you want 4 damage/support hybrids and one control go for it.
its about letting you play however you want to play.
ourorboros2 2 weeks ago
@LichKingLives
"And no trinity system. How they will cover the healing is beyond me."
as fexcinema noted, everyone has a healing ability but on top of this you have what is called support, everyclass has support abilities and can specialise if they want or go more hybrid, in essence a support based character will be buffing, blocking attacks from hitting team mates, taking off debuffs and part of his role will be back up healing.
ourorboros2 2 weeks ago
@LichKingLives
also, if you just want to team up with a large group of people to take on hard content there are dynamic events around the world which scale up to 100 people, far larger than any raid in wow however these are open to everyone so organisation amongst all of them is imposable unless every person their is part of your guild, team work and skill will come into play in the dungeons mostly.
ourorboros2 2 weeks ago
@LichKingLives
"I said they are copying the grindy, WoW style MMORPG."
and yet in every interview and almost any time they released information they almost always mention how they are specifically trying to end grindy content and how they dont want their game to be a grind, your comment completely contradicts the whole ethos of GW2.
"And what worries me is that there is no raid in this game"
raids dont work, why do you think wow killed the 40-mans and the 25-mans?
ourorboros2 2 weeks ago
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@LichKingLives
"You are a dumb moron, you know why? Because if level cap being 20 worked, then they wouldn't have raised the level cap to 80 in GW2. Why raise it? "
you do realise that the exact same thing could be said of every wow expansion of all time and infact could be said of world of warcraft, in the warcraft the games the level cap was 10 if memory serves, if that worked then they wouldn't have raised the cap to 60 in WoW.
you logic falls short.
ourorboros2 2 weeks ago
The ignorance is almost uncontrollable, seek cover!
Neicios 2 weeks ago
@LichKingLives ehh, no ur wrong about the kids thing, when a game is to hard for kids they leave just like in GW2, but there is kids in every game so idc really
FexCinema 2 weeks ago
@FexCinema No. It's because Rift is really really really bad. The PvP is horrible, the PvE is boring. What does it have to offer?
Brogthak 2 weeks ago
@LichKingLives The trinity system is that they dont want people to be healer if they want to same for tanks and dps. they added something called "control" spells (other word CC) for everyone, and every class (profession) got healing spells, and there is also something called "the downed state" which u get new abilities and everyone can get u back up on your feets
FexCinema 2 weeks ago
@LichKingLives u are retarded -.- so YOUR saying that wow had better graphics then GW2? jesus christ even rift has better graphics then wow, wow is a cartoon game for kids with no skill, and infact GW2 has a persoanlized storyline, WoW hasn't
FexCinema 2 weeks ago
@LichKingLives you a retard, u know why? what is GW2 copying from wow? nothing, wow sucks, they destroyed the game late TBC it became easy to get epics, and u say no grind in wow? then u don't know what grind is -.-
FexCinema 2 weeks ago
I keep throwing money at the screen but nothing happens.
graywish 2 weeks ago
@LichKingLives The combat system of both games is very different and its left to personal preference as to which system a person enjoys more, not to what you say or believe. WoW has done well in large content patch department, that much I can say.... but after so many years, regardless of all the updated content, it is still the exact same game fundamentally which has grown very old and tiresome ( Guild Wars has grown old and tiresome for me as well because its the same as it was so long ago ).
XxDiddyDidItxX 3 weeks ago
@LichKingLives Well if you are truly not a troll then I would have to leave this arguement to personal opinion because I tend to disagree with you. Guild Wars was released around the same time frame as WoW and Guild Wars had a larger pull on me. I felt like it was more fun and more about skill rather than gear. WoW didnt have half of the features it has now back when it initially released, infact Guild Wars was a larger game and over time just hasnt been maintained through content patches.
XxDiddyDidItxX 3 weeks ago
@XxDiddyDidItxX Things get old as time goes on, thats how it works. Guild Wars 2 is a fresh idea that looks very fun aside from some of the difficulties im seeing on the bosses, I feel they should be harder but thats just me. The original arguement was that this dragon is stolen from WoW when it is infact not... there are some simillarities between the shatterer and deathwing but they are nowhere near the exact same. Art for this dragon was released before art for Deathwing was released, explain
XxDiddyDidItxX 3 weeks ago
@LichKingLives Of course you hate Guild Wars lol, dont lie to yourself and to be completely honest I dont care all that much... so attempting to anger me just wont work, its a video game for christ sakes!
XxDiddyDidItxX 3 weeks ago
@LichKingLives No... Its just very obvious you are a troll. Theres no arguement to be made everything you are bringing up has been done far before WoW was released. If anyone is being copied its MMOs that have been released in the past before WoW and Guild Wars.
XxDiddyDidItxX 3 weeks ago
World of warcraft kids... Go back to your kung-fu panda while the rest of us join the MMO revolution when THIS game comes out.
Lonemarine117 3 weeks ago
@LichKingLives its funny because you think you are a good troll, the only problem is how obvious youve made yourself out to be a troll. No one is gonna take you seriously if they KNOW you are a troll bud, sorry about your luck. Your name is a dead giveaway.
XxDiddyDidItxX 3 weeks ago
I'm breaking up with my girlfriend and quitting school when this finally comes out
Lecreuset871 3 weeks ago
@Lecreuset871 <.< ...
NocteusLucium 3 weeks ago
WoW has ripped off every MMO before it and continues to rip off MMOs that are competing with it by copying their mechanics... so please pull your head out of your asses.
XxDiddyDidItxX 3 weeks ago
OMG this game has Charr firing mortars...obviously a BF3 ripoff.
scradduck 3 weeks ago 2
only 10 spells ???
MrDeviljos 3 weeks ago
@MrDeviljos It is far more complex than you think
djwezzmaster 3 weeks ago
i will play WOW and GW2... who the fuck cares if the one is better then the other..
Dcdrone 3 weeks ago
fight was good but loot was rather bad, wasnt it? no great gears, just some dragon scales and crest. or are they rare?
TheRomanowo 3 weeks ago
@TheRomanowo
Not sure anyone really knows what drops from boss fights yet... the items we saw in this vid are more than likely placeholders that hold relevance in a beta/show test setting.
foriumtube 3 weeks ago
@foriumtube Or it just looks like you can apply mods to equipment to keep looks that you like, without sacrificing stats.
notbeckwin 3 weeks ago
@notbeckwin
there's that too lol
foriumtube 3 weeks ago
if there is any wow fanboys out here on this video pls READ: WoW is getting destroyed in Mists of Pandaria... It was DESTROYED in the end of TBC because everything became easy regards getting epics... in WotLK i used 1 WEEKEND getting a full purple gear set... my first week i got T10 shoulders... In rift it isn't that easy... AND Deathwing is easy, every1 i know playing wow sais so ;) GW1 is even more fun then wow even though it has bader graphics because it's hard
FexCinema 3 weeks ago
@FexCinema Rift is terrible. That is all.
Brogthak 3 weeks ago
@Brogthak Lmao, true dat.
NocteusLucium 3 weeks ago
@Brogthak why is it terrible? because u are a wow fanboy?
FexCinema 2 weeks ago
so this is the 2nd dragon fight in gw2 i seen, looks good. Pity the dragons stay in one spot the entire time.never even turns
Tootsmagoot 4 weeks ago
i play wow, and i think its a great game with very funny Raids, but Gw2 will top all MMORPGS, even World of Warcraft!
ChillaTV100 4 weeks ago
NICE COPY OF WOW U JELLY MAD FAG?
Zoxuv 1 month ago
I think the only downfall so far with these Bosses is they don't move but otherwise very Epic
CollinBPage 1 month ago
This looks SICK.
Arceusvids 1 month ago
Cant wait for this.. WoW have just become too damn boring..
TheAlienNoob 1 month ago
The PvE in this game has a possibility of being dull. From watching this fight and the other large dragon they have released so far it seems like it'll be a zergfest with a few different mechanics zergs can do on each fight.
mudkipvsditto 1 month ago
@mudkipvsditto Its not a pve based game thats why, its will have a storyline based pve side like skyrim kinda, its all about pvp in guild wars 2
MrZomgzomgzomgzomg 1 month ago
@mudkipvsditto
please dont listen to Mr Zomg, this game is equally for PVE'ers as it is for PVP'ers.
in terms of boss mechanics, do remember, this particular fight was from alpha and has most likely been changed.
Tequatl the sunless, another dragon champion you can race in the open world has a fair few tactics and mechanics as part of his fight:
aswell as ofcourse AoE's and general damage he has bloated creeper adds (continued in next post)
ourorboros2 1 month ago
@mudkipvsditto
these adds need to be taken out at range otherwise they will do allot of AoE damage on death, there are fingers of Tequatl who will grab players who go to close and fling them towards the boss to be attacked and more general mod types aswell.
a large part of the fight is the use of turrets, they can be used partly for extra damage but also because at certain points tequatl will raise bonewalls that protect him and you use the turrets to destroy them (continued in next post)
ourorboros2 1 month ago
@mudkipvsditto
however the turrets are under constant attack from the adds, so you need to defend them, if they are left alone the NPC engineers will be killed and the turrets destroyed, if this happens you need to revive the engineers and they will rebuild the turrets.
there is also an Asuran mega laser which through out the fight charges, when charged a group of NPC engineers will head over to prepare it to fire, you need to (continued in next post)
ourorboros2 1 month ago
@mudkipvsditto
protect the engineers or the laser will fail, if you manage to defend it the laser will fire, stunning Tequatl for a few seconds and allowing players to do more damage to him.
all in all a fair bit, especially for a level 30 open world boss.
even at level 1 bosses have AoE's, fears and all that stuff, i hate to think what sort of things we'll see in actual dungeons.
ourorboros2 1 month ago
@mudkipvsditto
also, do remember, there is a difference between these open world fights and proper dungeons, these are meant to be accessed by everyone, they're adhoc, you cant really organise that too well and so zerging is inevitable (though thats not to say that a guild couldn't take charge of this fight if they wanted to)
the true team work, communication and all the rest will come from the dungeons which are limited to 5 man.
ourorboros2 1 month ago
HORY SHEET!!!
comanderlev 1 month ago
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;O Uff...
This is soo...
whaa...
This dragon is fu-cking epic and beautiful and it is really awesome instead of different kind of color breath shooting dragons (cough wow dragons)
OCthe1011 1 month ago
;O Uff...
This is soo...
whaa...
This dragon is fu-cking epic and beautiful and it is really awesome instead of different kind of color breath shooting dragons (cough wow dragons)
OCthe1011 1 month ago
Nice pink dress on that rat
stonedude77 1 month ago
COME OUT!
ThatDudeJCrash 1 month ago
guys i hate wow i have stopped my subscription and i can say this game wont beat wow first of all it got no healers (maybe even tanks) so thats a smaller amount of people who will buy it and all the fights we have seen so far looks like a casual tanknspank boss we want more difficult games isnt it obvious? just look at the amount of sales dark souls and demon souls goot
2kmarine 1 month ago
@2kmarine
" first of all it got no healers"
no, it had supports, meaning that rather than standing at the back, watching green bars go up and down, you instead need to buffing, taking debuffs from friendly players, shielding them to mitigate damage, reviving them when they're down ASWELL as healing.
basically support is like healing but much, -much-, more active, if anything, if you liked healers(like myself) support is just improving on it.
ourorboros2 1 month ago
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@2kmarine
"(maybe even tanks)"
again, this is replaced by control which is actually rather different, rather than just taking all the damage this is focusing more on slowing, stunning and reducing the damage enemies can make while also keeping them off of your team mates.
they aren't getting rid of tanks and healers, they're merely changing what they do, letting everyone do it and allowing hybrids, for instance you can make a warrior control and support hybrid if you want.
ourorboros2 1 month ago
@2kmarine
the reason everyone talks about them abolishing the holy trinity is because, while there is still a trinity of sorts, its not as strict, you dont need 1 control, 3 damage and 1 support for a group, if you want bring 5 hybrids, bring 2 control support hybrids and 3 damage, bring 4 damage/support hybrids and 1 control.
this system allows for more interesting group dynamics and also forces a higher level of communication and teamwork for groups.
ourorboros2 1 month ago
@2kmarine
"and all the fights we have seen so far looks like a casual tanknspank boss"
the dragon in the vid and others you might have seen so far are not dungeon bosses, they are just open world bosses, to my knowledge there has been no vids of dungeon bosses so far but we have been assured from press who have played that the dungeons are very hard with a high level of team work required.
the only one i think that has been on video is from the tutorial of the charr.
ourorboros2 1 month ago
@2kmarine
the boss in the charr tutorial, at level one, used fears aswell as adds and AoE damage, if thats what they are willing to throw at level 1's i'm scared for what level 80 bosses will do.
another one that comes to mind is one of the open world bosses, tequatl the sunless, hes a mid level DE boss, aswell as spawning different kinds of adds, he uses AoE's and also has tentacles that will grip and throw players trying to stand at the back towards him.
ourorboros2 1 month ago
@2kmarine
a large mechanic of the tequatl fight is the turrets, these turrets will be attacked by the adds, you will need to revive the engineers who the adds kill and defend the turrets or they get destroyed, you need the turrets because at intervals tequatl will make walls of bone around him that you need to the turrets to destroy aswell as providing extra damage normally.
you also have an asura mega laser that can be used at a specific point in the fight, (continued on next post)
ourorboros2 1 month ago
@2kmarine
when the mega laser is reader a group of engineer will start to prepare it, you need to defend them and if you manage this the laser will stun the boss for a few seconds.
so yeah, fair few mechanics for a mid level open world boss.
you want a hard game that requires allot of quick thinking and team work? GW2 is your game.
ourorboros2 1 month ago
It's funny how people accuse other games of copying WoW when the Warcraft and Starcraft are blatant ripoff of Warhammer to begin with.
moonbal 1 month ago
Wow kids are just mad because bosses/ mobs are gona be smarter this time attacking anyone they want. not just tanks.
lichmourne00 1 month ago
Release this before WoW Pandaren PLZ!!
monlelp 1 month ago
Why is one of the small dragons in GW2 bigger than Deathwing one of the biggest dragons in wow? Someone enlighten me plz :)
lichmourne00 1 month ago
@lichmourne00 Cause wow sucks.
TheWarpBurger 1 month ago
Even Skyrim handles dragon fights better: they actually flying in there.
Why do we need this online console game with immobile boss and zergfest combat?
IkarusKommt 1 month ago
@IkarusKommt it's still in beta stage. and do you even know what gaming platform it supports?
HulluKId 1 month ago
@HulluKId That's not even funny, one does't demonstrate things which aren't working as intended.
The game may be for Win32, but typically console button-mashing style (directional arrow movement, manual facing, keys for block or dodge, etc.) does not belong in RPG.
IkarusKommt 1 month ago
@IkarusKommt Umm... you're an absolute idiot. Your elitism is misplaced. RPG = Roleplaying game. Does this game have roleplaying in it? Yes. Is it a game? Yes. I hate to break it to you, but there can be RPGs with combat systems other than the overhead pause-and-strategise style. This is more immersive, for one.
lintonthepenguin 1 month ago
@IkarusKommt so... every game with directional arrow movement, manual facing, keys for block or dodge are button-smashing game for you? huh you dont play lots of games then? because lots of games got at least some of those elements in them.
manual facing
Line of sight is not 360 degree you know?
keys for block or dodge
While magical arrows and got target seeking property buildin is pretty nice, moving to dodge arrows/projectiles works well in GW and makes ranger/ele spike class more balanced.
HulluKId 1 month ago
@IkarusKommt You kidding me? Every dragon in Skyrim has the same flight, ground mechanics every damn time you engage em.. It gets soo stale while your trying to do all the side quests. Im always over encumbered by damn bones and scales and i already have dragon scale armor. Imo skyrim is doing it wrong.
lichmourne00 1 month ago 2
@IkarusKommt guess what? this isnt skyrim
this is a MMO not a first person roleplay, i actually like bulk people fighting a dragon, it shows how powerful it actually is and is very good to look at
HighVoltage7177 1 month ago
DKP -Dragon kill point all games has one therefore dragons are not bound to wow only.
sphinxofthenewage 1 month ago
This video was made on Aug 22nd 2010. That was before Cata for WoW was released. That means that they had this boss up and going (in their apha/beta testing) before they ever released Deathwing into WoW. I am a longtime WoW fan and I don't see this as a Deathwing rip off. Those who do...Stop being childish.
IAmFrostblazer 1 month ago 35
this isn't as good as deathwing
rastagna 1 month ago
@rastagna Dude Deathwings fight is easy though, even in normal... This isn't even a Raid Boss.
fattygannet777 1 month ago 2
OMG. WORLD OF WARCRAFT WASNT THE FIRST GAME WITH DRAGONS.... SO WHY DO PPL KEEP THINKING THAT GW2 COPIED THIS DRAGON FROM WOW'S DEATHWING?
U RETARDED?
U BLIND?
U JELLY?
U CANT ACCEPT THAT GW2 WILL KILL WOW?
oORaichuOo 1 month ago 64
@oORaichuOo
GW2 will not kill WoW, their are to many people who love to pose with their roxx0r equipment.
And if they don´t have an eq that compares all their mistakes, they will quickly lose the pleasure..
I remember the hours I spent with GW:TB and it was a lot of fun.. in WoW you just follow the advices of guides..
To quote the german foreign minister "My english is not the yellow from the egg" (Idioms are difficult to translate.,, but "It's not exactly the bee's knee." will fit :D)
Dubz1875 1 month ago
@oORaichuOo no, its the fact that wow will never die.
Hallowpape 1 month ago
@oORaichuOo
Why do u kritik WOW the best Game ever?Blizzard Rules in every Game and the Best Game 2012 is coming now -.- DIABLO 3 that kills all Games
MegaDiablo3 1 month ago
@MegaDiablo3 WoW best game ever? What a joke.
XohmadonX 1 month ago 2
@XohmadonX
Everybody knows that WOW the most members got...Or are u really so stupid?
MegaDiablo3 1 month ago
@MegaDiablo3 the fact it has the most members doesn't mean it's the best game,just means it has fans,most of the WoW people are quiting now anyway. Beside the fact WoW was a nice game back then just lured allot of people yeah. But at this moment there are way better games released for which you don't even have to pay. Beside the fact that for instance League of Legends has more players these days then WoW. So just to let you know that lol
XohmadonX 1 month ago 2
@MegaDiablo3
yes, its also bleeding players badly, infact according to warcraftrealms there are only 3.2 millions active characters in all of EU and NA, granted its not an official website and its reliability can be argued, the fact that each quarter last year the game lost increasing numbers of subs is enough to show its fast decline.
also, if you want to talk just online gaming, league of legends has more players than wow.
ourorboros2 1 month ago
@ourorboros2
I hate free to Play bzw. Pay to have Fun Games...
MegaDiablo3 1 month ago
@ourorboros2
Yes thats true but WOW got everything...Iam not a WOW Player...I like only diablo and Guild Wars
MegaDiablo3 1 month ago
@MegaDiablo3
wow hasn't got everything, its rather terrible, i was a wow player, its dying badly.
ourorboros2 1 month ago
@MegaDiablo3 Who cares about popularity lmfao its a boring grind fest to get to lvl 85 and then grind some more to get pvp gear. Where is the fun in that? How is the "best game" not fun? Fan boy much.
MerchAllDay 1 month ago
@oORaichuOo calm down nerd
Knightmares100 1 month ago
@Knightmares100 actually he's trolling, ur the rageguy who fell for it, u jelly nerd?
GreatYamatanoOrochi 1 month ago
@oORaichuOo Kill? nah...
Drunkendorf 1 month ago
@oORaichuOo No game except WoW itself will kill WoW. U retarded? U blind? U jelly? Get over it.
QPoily 3 weeks ago
@oORaichuOo LOL!!! OWNAGE. True wise words my friend!
NocteusLucium 3 weeks ago
0:36 WHY HELLO THERE DEATHWING
VerifyVolatile 1 month ago
@VerifyVolatile Im pretty sure thats the Shatterer and not deathwing
Y u so stupid?
187lloyd 1 month ago
nice you're a charr female =D
marsvin55 1 month ago
At first,i thought guild wars 2 looked the same as all other MMO's,but then the arrow in my knee told me to watch this.
theskater1239 1 month ago
@theskater1239 Fail Skyrim joke ...
alesanasux 1 month ago
holy shit a margonite dragon?!
ChoasOrderPAIN 1 month ago
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Skulshok 1 month ago
@Skulshok I just wanted to let your dumbass know that this is nothing like WoW. Just because it is open world and has big bosses doesn't mean it is like WoW. Go do some research then say that.
Hypn0tyz3d 1 month ago
Btw is Guild Wars dead? People still play it?
Testosteronization 2 months ago
@Testosteronization only amateurs still play guildwars ... from, lets say, 3000 good players only 10 are still playing. so its kinda dead. some good pve guilds are still around.
but if you play guildwars for pvp its dead. some "pro kiddys" are farming empty hall with overpowered dervish / invoke ele and think they are good.
you wont find any real good players anymore (in pvp).
pRounify 2 months ago
@pRounify Just been to Kamadan... It's empty lol
Testosteronization 2 months ago
@Testosteronization are you on american server? if yes it should be kinda full. like always.
but try internation. all the idiots are international district.
in pve as same as pvp.
but guildwars is really dead. because of the dervish and invoke i earlier spoke of. :)
buffed it too high and never really nerfed it weaker.
pRounify 2 months ago
@Testosteronization everyone left because of the nerfing and i think msot people jsut waiting to play gw2
maartenvdvegt 1 month ago
@Testosteronization Yeah. I bought it and I don't see many people which pisses me off because that $30 went to waste. But atleast I am supporting the company making Guild Wars 2 :)
manggjiosdjg 1 month ago
GW2 preordered 4 christmas
MrMakewarnotlove 2 months ago
this has raiding?
MrShaggy951 2 months ago
@MrShaggy951 Raiding? This is an OPEN WORLD boss. Anyone can join in at any time while it's running, no ownership of the loot, etc.
Instanced content in GW2 will be 5-man, but according to Anet the explorable mode of dungeons will be very challenging.
NLAdorax 2 months ago
When i first play GW2 i think my computer will explode due to pure awesomeness of this game
MmmChiggen 2 months ago
something big like that dragon looks fake to everybody because its not as they thought it would be.... no reaction from the dragon at all just standing there to get killed for kids to get happy....i hope it has a hard mode or super hard or alse it doesnot worth playing it......where is that shiro tagachi the boss of guild wars 1....he was the real shit
manimarc 2 months ago
@manimarc tbh this isnt even meant to be a hard boss, its just a world event and its lvl 40-50 in a max lvl 80 game, so yeah, higher lvl shit will be loads harder
GROGOLOG 2 months ago
@GROGOLOG didnt knew that ,dont worry i will play the game myself
manimarc 2 months ago
@manimarc Firstly this is only a mid lvl event, not even a boss.
Secondly they already said, for the demo they nerf everything down by 70-90%.
nisteven 1 month ago
@nisteven that explains everything
manimarc 1 month ago
@manimarc Everything in the demo was nerfed 70-90%
Prepare for an asswhooping when the game really comes out, and this isnt even a boss
its an open world event
187lloyd 1 month ago
a boss that big jumping and landing doesnt kill everything around it?
you can hear a persons voice clearly with all that shit going on?
magic chest appears after it runs away?
I know its fantasy but come on.
pashery 2 months ago
@pashery All that stuff happens in WoW...
ackbobthedead 2 months ago
@ackbobthedead this is supposed to be next gen mmo that keeps getting delayed because they want to make it perfect, the gameplay is far from perfect
pashery 2 months ago
@pashery Would you rather the dragon just happen to be carrying a bunch of gold and weapons with it?
ackbobthedead 2 months ago
@ackbobthedead I'd rather be able to craft weapons and armor from severed limbs etc
pashery 2 months ago
@pashery Tell them, maybe they'll add it to a patch.
ackbobthedead 2 months ago
@pashery This game have not been delay yet.
They have not once set a date. Places like game stop have set dates for it.
However the people who are actually making the game, have not once set a date.
On top of that, this video is more then a year old.
nisteven 1 month ago
@nisteven enjoy your vaporware
pashery 1 month ago
@pashery
1) Then they'd be no epic bosses in the game. That'd be a game breaking mechanic.
2) So what... that isn't too far fetched.
3) Well the fact that a dragon is carrying around that loot in the first place is obscene enough, but that's just part of an MMORPG. Deal with it.
Elvinator1994 2 months ago
@Elvinator1994
1. Wrong its entirely possible, and I can even show you some examples
2. A simple gunshot would drown out all the noise and there's far more than that going on
3. No the chest was a terrible addition to the game that makes no logical sense. It first appeared in eotn, which overall was a lazy half ass campaign
pashery 2 months ago
LMAO look at SW:ToR's mid level world boss :X
/watch?v=4p2WiLznFeA&feature=player_embedded
Hexicznova 2 months ago
Looks awesome, but i have a question: I just watched TERA online and there the game required from the player the ability to react fast (by dodging and aiming the skills).
I see there are crosshairs now and then, but do you have to aim, or just have the center of the screen close to it? (Autolock)
AtlantisThief 2 months ago
gw2<3
Siggioz 2 months ago
I don't understand... I don't see a deathchin.
dered908 2 months ago
all this! + you don't have to suck blizzards cock every month!!!!!!
creamhunter 2 months ago
you know what i want for my birthday? a new computer. i'm pretty sure my current one is going to commit suicide before it tries to play the game
tinycookies1 2 months ago
thats..a big chicken
hobbitinyo 2 months ago
i want to play it *drool* D:
Zepha21 2 months ago
u know i like this way better because of the cool gameplay and because U DONT HAVE TO PAY FOR MEMBERSHIP so WoW screw u hello guild wars 2
jeromy384 2 months ago
I started playing WoW in pre-bc, and stopped early cata. To all of the WoW players saying that it is dumb that the boss is just standing there, I have to ask you something. Do you remember possibly one of the greatest raid bosses of all time? The MC rag? How about C'thun? Oh wait, MANY bosses in WoW would just stand there unless your tank moved him. Please stop going to other mmo videos and bashing them, you're making yourselves look like idiots.Criticism is fine, plain insulting is annoying.
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TEHDERRICKAHOY 2 months ago
Not gonna lie, this completely destroys WoW
OlHoag 2 months ago
For all the nabs saying this looks like deathwing...in wow deathwing is a final boss, this guy is a miniboss, his not even a big elder dragon :)))
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stigcheese 2 months ago
omfg
pottansnest 2 months ago
This guy rly looks like deathwing and if you say dragons look like other dragons then please go play skyrim
wahedi87 2 months ago