Well...I have been watching this Dawkins playlist here and it had many amazing discussions with guys like Krauss, Weinberg, and PZ Meyers. Actual people that know shit about things. Those were excellent. Then back to this religious nonsense. This is where I get off the bus.
A question for atheists. In a world where there's no proof of God's existence or of life after death; how will you explain to your children why you brought them into the world and why they should die?
god is just as mythological as Thor, Zeus, Aphrodite, Hades, etc. Ancients tried to explain natural phenomena with deities. Fortunately modern day humans understand the science of lightning, explosions, etc. Just because the origin of the universe is currently unknown does not mean that a god created it. Science will eventually have a theory of everything.
Religion only specializes in brainwashing. There is no truth to religion. End of story.
@FallofDarkness55 God is just an Unfalsifiable Hypothesis, which is a Hypothesis that cannot be falsified, which there is no Scientific Test that you could set up that would prove conclusively whether God is real or fake. I can make any number of Unfalsifiable Statements, I could say that I could fly when nobody is looking. Which by common sence you can clearly see God is not real.
@TorresProductionz Sorry but god is actually a falsifiable hypothesis. It's not like god dwells in another dimension separate from the universe like most theists think. If god created the universe his existence and power would manifest in reality. understand now? i recommend reading The God Delusion by Richard Dawkins.
@FallofDarkness55 // Sorry but god is actually a falsifiable hypothesis. It's not like god dwells in another dimension separate from the universe like most theists think. If god created the universe his existence and power would manifest in reality. understand now? //
Look you dont understand, there is no Scientific Test that you could set up that would prove conclusively whther God is real or fake. Your saying that hes not real without any proof, hes an UNfalsifiable Hypothesis.
@TorresProductionz Actually he is a FALSIFIABLE HYPOTHESIS!!! Take a coin and pray to god that the coin will land on heads fifty times in a row. It will never land on heads fifty times in a row and therefore these results proves that there is no personal god. If a god does exist, then it must be a deistic god which i still don't buy because i am a naturalist and not some crackpot super-naturalist. Understand now?
@FallofDarkness55 Your points are ridiculous taking a coin and praying to god that it will turn heads 50 times in a row does'nt prove that God is a Falsifiable Hypothesis. Like I said BEFORE god is an Unfalsifiable Hypothesis unless nobody can prove that hes real or fake. Im an atheist I dont believe in a god but this is a Scientific Explanation for the "God". Understand? Hey dude I can fly without you looking, thats a Unfalsifiable Hypothesis, cant be Scientifically proven. Dumbass. Understand?
@TorresProductionz "you can fly without me looking"<-what are you high on? i don't believe you and that's the nature of a rational brain. I disbelieve until proven. Let me ask you this...Do you believe in fairies until disproven or do you disbelieve in fairies until proven with irrefutable evidence? If you were a rational atheist you would recognize this point and you wouldn't be so weak in your thinking. You can also quit with the ad hominem attacks. Understand now?
@FallofDarkness55 //You can fly without me looking// was an example of an Unfalsifiable Hypothesis, nobody believes that they think its absolutely dumb and stupid, same way as I think of Religion and God. You still dont understand an Unfalsifiable Hypothesis, its the true scientific explanation for god and anything else, like the example I gave you, which you clearly couldnt understand. Im not saying I believe in fairies until disproven or proven, not enough room..
@TorresProductionz We're entitled to your own mentality but unfortunately i see religion from a different perspective. It's an industry that takes in lots of money and threatens people with hell if they don't attend their church/prayer service. go watch George Carlin's videos and maybe you will stop having such an indecisive and weak mind. Also I view god as a type of Zeus. Zeus was the controller of lightning. And now religion has convinced people that god controls the universe. it's bullshit!
@FallofDarkness55 //watch George Carlin's videos and maybe you will stop having such an indecisive and weak mind//
Seriously? Im on your side dude, I was just giving a SCIENTIFIC EXPLANATION for God. WHAT the FUCK is your SCIENTIFIC EXPLANATION??? You changed this topic to George Carlin from a Scientific Explanation that you tryed to prove wrong with a bunch of commen sence were in common dude were atheists fuck god and religion
@TorresProductionz yes i agree with you. but i also hate it when certain people don't have a religion and yet they claim they are an agnostic. they are weak to say that religion is bullshit!!!!!!!!
@FallofDarkness55 Well, i thing religion is lunacy. Am i weak? I have read the Bible, taken Seventh Day Adventist courses...(laughable as hell btw) speak with, to this day, with Mormons and Jehovah's witness folk, and i use to attend a Faith Baptist Church. How am i weak?
Enlighten me if you will. WHY not keep religion in a religious institution ie Church, and keep education in an edcuational insitute, ie schools? How hard is this?
@fitasafiddle123 I agree. It shouldn't be that hard. America is killing education because most of the people in power are religious. You're not weak because you admit that religion is run by crazy lunatics. In fact there should be an "atheistic" commandment i.e. "thou shalt keep thy religion to thyself"
there's nothing true about religion. it's all about bribery, threats, and being a sycophant to an idea which is laughably absurd to any rational person. In fact religion advocates a childish mentality. It's funny how theists say we atheists need to disprove god. Well I guess we also need to disprove fairies stupid fucks. lol.
dont christians find it ironic that the very first amendment in the bill of rights the framers made sure the to spell out out the Establishment of Religion?
Well, I agree that science has no business in the metaphysical world. My problem w/ that world is that it is totally open to anything that charlatans can construct. I'm not calling you a charlatan, but there are too many of them to count. Faith healers, to "glass looking", to mega church millionaires, all claiming to have the truth, the one truth. How many religions can be right? Science will get it right, because they operate on better ethics-it's demonstrable. I'm done, be good old friend.
Religion is not Biblical. Scriptures warn against man polluting the word, and that he will in fact do so. The Romans used the books to feed their lusts of power and control, still do thousand years later. Mega churches, faith healers, tv evangelists begging for $, all crooks in my eyes, I'm on your side there. Nothing to do with straight scriptural teachings. Man will poison whatever they get their hands on to work in their best interest. Best to you, appreciate the civil convo.
@h2omanz "Scriptures warn against man polluting the word" This statement is laughable. Who wrote these scriptures that "warn" about these men? Did it ever occur to you that that men who wrote those scriptures were themselves deceivers?
Waiting for your reply. If the Biblical authors were deceivers, I really want to know why. Why would anyone give up everything for a lie and what is the purpose of deceiving, when there is absolutely nothing to be gained? I mean many left careers/families behind, risking torture/death/being flayed alive, threat of being robbed, starvation via martyrdom, doesn't make sense. Maybe when you have time between rolln blunts n bustn raps,you'll let me know, as I too need a good laugh.
@h2omanz First of all, that last part was completely unneeded, and is completely disrespectful. Now onto the topic, why would they deceive? They wanted to create an answer (And religion) to why and how life got here. Now, they wanted this religion to keep people in line. If you say "Oh if you lie or murder, you're going to burn in hellfire for eternity," then the chances are that most people will not murder. That is why they were deceivers.
1. Someone calling my comment laughable directed the path of the conversation. A small poke at pot/rap music isn't something to get ones chonie's all wadded up about, especially when its not aimed at you.The Romans were the ones that took the books centuries later to control the masses, not the apostles. Your claim of conspiracy/deceiving fails on all levels. Basic rules of creditability, no contradictory accounts,
1.Evolution theory is pure tenet, taught desperately to excuse 1self from the obvious. A boat with many a hole and is sinking fast. It can't be demonstrated because its pseudo and has nothing to do with real science. Scientific laws have shown/proven why its not scientific, and goes against the very definition of science. The schools should included in their science books several 'scientific facts' that prove ToE is nothing more than philosophy base on faith. God has no theory?
2.There is plenty to test. And He encourages it, to allow Him to prove who He says He is.
However and sadly for most Its spiritually tested. Requires you lay down your pride, open your heart, and most are unwilling to do so. As well if you don't want anything to do with Him, He makes distant and will honor you and your decision. There is much evidence to back the words of the Bible, making it logical enough to pursue and take God up on his words/test. The Giant boat theory, oddly, isolated
3., isolated civilizations worldwide all share the same story of a man/family on a boat w/animals surviving a worldwide flood...weird. The others, parting seas/virgin births, yes, are hard to fathom. However its quite a small feat after creating the universe and all and in between down to a tiny seed. I like the fairy tale of soup eventually turning into a man, where the main law of biology is broken, life from non life.
4. And its needed/used to make ridiculous theories such as TOE work, as without such made up claims(by the way is proven impossible, yet taught as fact?), the theory is dead.
@h2omanz The theory is dead? Had you any scientific education you'd know that the term theory is the highest possible status given to a scientific idea, and no amount of validation takes it to a hierarchy above that. Then if you'd bother to look at all of the evidence you'd know that you have to reject branches of science to conclude it's false. Ask yourself why you have the genes for a fully functioning tail, whales the genes for legs and chromosome 2 is a fusion at two previous telomeres.
@h2omanz Most important in this matter is that truth should be our rallying cry. Anyone that claims a high degree of integrity in making truth claims should respect the overwhelming, compelling, unambiguous evidence that supports evolution and the descent of man. Any other myth claim in the face of this degree evidence is proof that your faith will continue its terminal decline. It doesn't have to be this way. Evidence and reason will win-it always has.
1.I also know a theory is a well documented hypotheses and are 'always' considered tentative. The 'theory' is philosophy, has nothing to do with the definition of science. Evolution is fact, has only proving limits thus far, everything past is extrapolation. The only branches I've rejected are the ones that can't be proven or haven't yet for that matter. Genes for tail? You must mean anomalous growths. Whales legs, these are bones to control the animals muscles/lower region(muscle
Chromo2:The pretelomeric/telomeric/reverse telomeric sequences of Chrom2 bandings are similar but 'not' identical. Teleomare fusion is only speculative. Different dna elements lay within the telomeres as well, not proof of ancestry. Chrom2 having an inactive centrom, though rare, occurs and is known as neocentromes(coupling). Not proof, any more than it is for a common design. I concur with you via evidence and reason, as a truth does supplies such.
@h2omanz Well, I guess you've managed to assert your opinion, but in science your opinion doesn't matter. Science deals in evidence and peer review. The theory you're questioning is 150 years old that has been emboldened by genetics, biochemistry, biology, geology, archaeology, anthropology, virology, microbiology, ecology, biophysics, etc.-almost every branch of science supports or corroborates this theory. Send me one, just one, peer reviewed link or citation that supports your position.
1.Correct my opinion doesn't matter. In a bias field funded by the government with just one desired outcome, why would it.
How most of those sciences you listed back up molecule to monkey to you is beyond me. Each one of the sciences basis belittles the possibility of ToE. Establishing a hypothesis hundreds of years ago, and having science do a dance/wrap to make a philosophy, scientific is why the theory has so many holes/problems.
2.How do you suppose I give you a peer review when creationists aren't allowed/ridiculed due to the methodology, as only naturalistic explanations are excepted. Any one scientist that is funded, claiming different is out of job come Monday morning.
@h2omanz I expect them to submit EVIDENCE, and their explanation and let them fight it out just like a scientist is expected to be have. If you want to fight the evidence of evolution you can't just assert your ideas, you must provide the rigorous pathway from your conclusions are drawn. If you want to change the idea of duodenal ulcers using bacteria as as a causative agent, you must go through the same process-and evidence, eventually wins the day. Play by the rules!
Funny thing is I'm not in the game, in the manner you are. I want nothing to do with a government controlled area that wants to do away with God. If you believe your science has 'answered' such things as the laws of physics, stellar-planetary/cosmic/organic/macro evolution..full throttle! I accept something to be scientific when it meets the scientific definition and can be proven via the scientific method.Not something that requires much needed faith, yet is labeled/taught as fact.
@h2omanz I can see that. I think science has answered much of what you describe, and the answers are well supported by evidence. Where scientific ignorance occurs, you're free to insert your god of the gaps. The problem then becomes, which god? The depth of your faith speaks nothing to this issue. If you want to believe it is Ganesha, the elephant god, knock yourself out. Me, I will always explain the million of pieces of facts that support evolution and the total lack of evidence for its demise
Science has answered much of what I've described? Well supported?Not by a long shot. Science has/can only 'describe', science can never 'explain' anything. Science may state they 'know', fact is that's its funded goal, and the 'facts' are empirical guestimates/extrapolation. The God of the Bible, the one true God. Ganesha, doesn't have really too much to stand on. If you want to believe man evolved without proof past philosophical science, again thats all you. Happy 4th..
@h2omanz Ganesha doesn't have much to stand on? But the one true god does? Like? You lose on astronomy, anatomy, microbiology, anthropology, archaeology, geology, psychology, and sociology. Where was/is the Bible right? Pestilence, genocide, infanticide, fear...? Under what evidence would support your case for your "one true God"? You're still ignoring the facts old buddy! Many, many facts!
1.This is a pointless on both ends as we have what we consider our evidences and they are not the same, yet both rely on faith of a different color. We can go back and forth for awhile, but I will get bored soon. I love how junk/philo science is presented exploiting the notion that earth sciences have actually proven even a single thing, furthermore has disproved God. Again science observes/describes never can it prove/explain your claim of 'many, many so called facts'. Every
2.single piece of evidence clung to are 100% probability rooted from metaphysical teachings taught as fact, always changing always in need of correction. Humans know around .6ish% of origins/earth's history, yet can claim to 'know'??That's logical? Contrary to what you perceive as evidence, 'fact' rests on the much need inductive reasoning of your faith's CORE belief. Which depend on accidents, luck, randomness, chance and fate. You cant measure God via physical/chemical instruments. You have to
3.be crazy to expect to find God using the scientific method(science), and when one can't, use it as evidence against God. This is the popularized and shameful method used today by skeptics, as if science has indeed replaced God. Rejecting the notion that something happening for no reason, and the result is incredible complexity/laws/orders and beauty is evidence in itself.
4.The fact that you have already blown off the most obvious evidence of God, which is proven as easily as looking out the window, shows me you have already predetermined, and reject any evidence put forth thereafter. Your list of 'evil//fear driven' proves you are ignorant of His works in the Bible, as well.
@h2omanz I understand that epistemology is our issue. What I can't fathom is how you can claim evidence for god, the Bible or your epistemology. This is related to the sources and limits of knowledge. Do you reject the germ theory? Demons and evil spirits are the alternative. How about a heliocentric solar system? did Joshua stop the Sun in the sky? Pssst, it doesn't move in relation to the the Earth. How you think you can reject genomic evidence because you feel "good" about it, doesn't work.
@h2omanz I think you're a nice Christian, but we need to find peaceful ways for societies to coexist. I don't think you'll be able to sell your "junk/philo" anti-science jargon much longer. People don't go to hospitals to see a reverend, they go to see medical scientists-because they know they're held to higher standards than faith. Willful ignorance is not the way of the future. You'll go down kicking, but you'll go down nonetheless. I still wish you the best, and thank you for no ad hominem.
1.The reason you can't fathom my philosophy/epistemology, is probably the fact of your indoctrination, education, and into career, love for science at an early age etc.?? I used to believe what my science teacher told me was fact until I actually decided to investigate it myself. Laid down all bias, researched all claims including science/religions/languages for years, still do. Real science and God are 100% compatible, it is the so called disguised science that relies
2.solely on philosophy and seems to disregard science by definition, eluding basic laws and observable/provable principles. It is this such type that conflicts with science, not God.
Germ theory denialist, :)no. Will I/my kids go to the hospital if sick, of course. Will I pray for God to work thru Drs, of course. Geocentrism, was a worldwide belief, even by those who never heard of Christianity. As well it was the scientists, philosophers at that time that wanted to silence Galileo too, not just
3.the church. The church basically didn't want an uproar, causing mass division of the churches they established. Joshua, translated via Hebrew from my studies was requesting a 'lengthening' of a day. And also read that astronomical calculations is missing one full day, reported by many civilizations worldwide of that very time in history. Many theories on this one.
I wish you the best too. I will go down kick n screaming fighting for what truths God has revealed to me time and time again.
4.The ones that are revealed on another level, spiritually, the side where science has no bearing. Never knowing this type of evidence, makes people ignorant of God as human pride and selfishness will hold up the wall to keep God out. And He will honor that decision, and give you over to your desired belief.
@h2omanz If your only support for your faith is a poorly constructed "government controlled area that wants to do away with God" conspiracy, that is your business as well, but I think you're turning your faith into a cult and you will lose your credibility to subsequent generations.
Thank you for a respectful discussion, and the best to you my friend.
I believe that there should never be the one religion enforced as compulsory learning at school, unless that school is based around that religion i.e catholic schools. Countries such as the U.S.A, Australia, Canada, England etc. have stated in their consitutions that the government cannot be prejudice or prohibit the beliefs or worship of its people, so why would we teach the one religion(most commonly christianity) when it is not the unanimous religion. Other cultures need to be considered
@h2omanz Well with your comment you make it sound as if you do not believe evolution to be testable so... i guess... Horse breeding and dog breeding are lies they are fake and not real? Or does GOD let the dogs have different types of puppies? Also, evolution is accepted by 93% of the scientists on the Human Genome Project. 93% of them. People researching OUR dna. Are they liars? Blasphemers?
I never stated a word about evolution, only the theory of it. Your horse/dog babble doesn't make sense. Evolution is accepted by 93% of scientists, that's great as an astonishing 99% of priests believe in God. 2010 Scientists polls are at 73% that believe in a Deity, believers are asked to leave their faith at home as the grants want naturalistic explanations, nothing more. Again science class should contain real, testable science not philosophical/bias claims that have no backing.
So what if the majority in this country are or were christian? Founded with christian beliefs. At one time the majority thought the world was flat. Being in the majority does not make you right. Just means that more people were wrong!!
The simple fact that the majority of top comments on video's like this are decidedly atheist proves, if nothing else, that more atheists are more willing to watch fair, unbiased debates about religion than their religious counterparts.
Religion is already taught in school.When you finish science you have reached god.If you don know why.Science concludes to the mysterious creation of humans."Theory of Evolution" This is a theory which is how you have reach god.A famous atheist scientist actually switched to Christian because there was no explanation for the theory of evolution.
@danicepeda Perhaps you should actually try to understand the fact of evolution by natural selection before you say things like, "Science concludes to the mysterious creation of humans." We know where human beings came from, and there is no debate. The argument does not exist except for in the minds of those who refuse to accept the facts. You may choose to ignore the fact if you wish to remain deluded, but it will remain a fact, no matter how many people "don't believe it".
I submit that all religions are dangerous. And to force your religion on to your child just because you "think" it is the right religion is child abuse. All religious sects are socialist and quite delusional, I mean, no one has seen any gods. It is a mystical world of make believe. When the last stone from the last church falls on the head of the last clergy, then maybe we will find peace. Your mind will never think freely as long as you believe in the never, never land. That pie in the sky!
If Rev. Price attaches so much importance to what Britain was in the past regarding religion, why isn't he advocating Paganism? It was the norm long before Christianity made it's way over here.
In the beginning Adam and Even loved and cherished the world and made for themselves a beautiful garden. But one day a serpent, let’s call it religion, tempted them and said “I can give you a much better world than this. But first you must deny this world and when you die you can live forever with me in heaven” They agreed and their garden fell to ruin and the universal language of science was lost to them. Instead they and their descendants dreamed of heaven and became cruel and ignorant.
This is nonsense. In New York City the Catholic Schools did the best job of educating the children of the immigrant working class. In the public schools my cousins were assigned to low achieving classes because their parents were Italians. I went to the Catholic schools and was expected to do my best. I was Phi Beta Kappa at college, a Lt. in the US Army and a graduate of Harvard Law School. My best teachers were in those Catholic Schools.
you know why religion take over education because they could controle what people should learn( limite knowleg) and could manipulate young child how they think ( easier to brain wash)
@mystisme In the beginning Adam and Even loved the world and made for themselves a beautiful garden. But one day a serpent, let’s call it religion, tempted them and said “I can give you a much better world. But first you must deny this world and when you die you can live forever with me in heaven” They agreed and their garden fell to ruin and the universal language of science was lost to them. Instead they and their descendants dreamed of heaven and became cruel and ignorant.
I read a comment somewhere here on youtube, the author said ``you should treat religion like your penis, don't show it off in public and don't ram it down your childrens throats.
John 1:1-3 says " In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.He was in the beginning with God; all things were made through him, and without him was not anything made that was made." so God made all things... that's why you exist.... u dont have to ask yourself.... if God is real... there's many proofs around you... wake up people... God loves you so much
They can start teaching the lies and imperialist treachery of Christianity, Judaism and Islam in my schools the day we start teaching Darwin and the truth of evolution in those bull shit factories called churches, synagogues and mosques.
Religion is pure lies and manipulative fabrications in the service of state sponsored evil.
It is witchcraft of the foulest order meant for small minded hypocrites who seek strength in numbers and to wallow in their own smug ignorance.
Jesus is a fiction of the Roman Catholic Church. There is not one shred of historical evidence that he ever existed. This is something the Jews have always known & been persecuted for by the witches of Christianity. Even if he was real he would have been a Jew & would be appalled at the evil done to his people by the the butchers of Christian imperialism.
I have "faith" in discernible reality, not the witchcraft and deception of the Bible & Koran.
@TheColonelKlink Jesus is not a fiction. He is true. The Bible is true and everything in it is true. And Christianity is NOT a religion. A person can call himself a Christian if he have received Christ in his heart and has a personal relationship with him. In other words its doesn't mean you are a Christian just by going to church. Without him we are nothing. Religion is made by man not by God. Jesus hates religion. Religion is not needed. Faith in him is what we need.
aseru, Instead of parroting Christian ideology, why don't you study history? There is no mention of a character called Jesus until late in the first century. No writings. No birth records. No family burial plots. No execution records
The Bible did not even exist until the 4th century when the Emperor Constantine convened ecumenical councils to decide which ideology suited the Roman government best. Not even they could prove he existed.
Jesus was declared Divine in the 4th century. Religion!
@TheColonelKlink you could think whatever you want. You are really studying history then.Its nice to hear that your studying "His Story"....try reading the Bible, it teaches history all right. it tells us about how we are created to what will take place in the future. Unless you believe in the theory of charles darwin that we are from apes. Well call me a fool.....but I won't accept that I'm from an ape. I'm made from God's own image........I believe you are too.
@aseru152 Darwin describes "natural selection" by first describing "artificial selection" (i.e. dog breeding). This is not theory, it is proven fact. Science is an academic discipline.
Religion is fairy tales and ideology intended to keep populations in their place and Kings and the rich in their halls of privilege. Evolution demonstrates humans and the great apes share a common ancestor, not that we evolved from apes. Go to school. Get an education. Cast aside the occult insanity of religion.
You "worship" the Hebrew/Arab demon Jehovah/Allah and the occult imperialist witchcraft of the Italian cult of Christianity.
Only the forces of evil require supplication & worship. God requires only belief & an honest heart. No witches who call themselves priests, preachers, rabbis & imams. No tomes of witchcraft such as the Bible & Koran.
Religion is not God. It is the ideological betrayal of humanity & the abandonment of God.
@TheColonelKlink It's incredibly sad what humanity has become, the fact that primitive superstition such as religious beliefs, has lived on to a large part of the 21st century. Scientific progress has been held back so far by such beliefs that we could have amounted to so much more by now, it's really depressing to think about these things too much...
@Jaytothecore There is still hope. For over 1000 years the Christian Church controlled Europe & retarded scientific, political & social progress, then we had The Enlightenment, the American & French Revolutions & a rebirth of democracy. Science bloomed again & today we benefit from more advanced medicine as a result. We still suffer from extreme ideological issues that have led to technologically induced climate change. There will ups & downs in the centuries ahead. Our story is still unfolding.
Matt 24:10 many will turn away from the faith. 2 Thes 2:3 Let no one in any way deceive you, for it (God's judgment upon the earth) will not come unless the apostasy (a falling away from the faith) comes first. Its alright, let them believe what they want to believe. If you are an open minded person... The bible is true not fact. But whose to say god didn't create the big bang? Some people need to realize when you bash someones belief, you just made them closed minded.
@Twiztidguy you are absolutely right! But if they will never believe in God or the bible...... its their choice. We did our part as christians....... let God judge you on the judgement day.
The three big religions Christianity, Islam, Judaism are the troublemakers most other religions don't have this doctrine, "Our way is the right and only way" In hinduism for example there is no concept of hersey or a wrong belief as all spiritual paths are equally valid. I'm personally all for religious schools, if Christianity would update itself to be compatiable with the 21 cent.
religion is the greatest tool that satan has to deceive the world, then government, and lastly ignorance, as you can see by a majority of the comments posted on you tube. the scripture is not to be interpreted, or offered up for debate, it is a personal relationship between God and the reader, nourished through scripture. if you don't read your bible and interprete it through the Holy Spirit, then you don't know God.
@you457wx You blame religion then suggest that everyone use the book that created all these satanic religions and seek the assistance of a ghost to understand it. It was the god of the bible who created satan. It is your book that tells us he is the god of this world. Don't you suffer from an acute form of cognitive dissonance when you do this? Dump the bible and search for god in the evidence all around us. Science will give you a very good head start in your search for god if there is one.
@Netwriter the teachings of the bible are different then those of the church, the church manipulates the word of God for profit. they want you to believe that you need them, people corrupts the bible, not vice versa. but all theories are a form of manipulation because they are not fact, so in sceince as well as scripture, you have to have faith. sceince also proves almost all of the bible to be fact, excluding creation, the flood (we have an ark) and a physical God
@you457wx The "word of god" tells you to kill homosexuals, non-virgins women at marriage, unruly children, folks who work on Saturday and that slavery is fine, and a host of other immoral conduct. Yes, you have faith in science because it works. Faith in superstitions does not work. They do not have the ark. There was no ark. Watch my video "Exodence" then tell me again that the bible is fact. If you have proof that your god is real, then please present it.
@Netwriter everyone knows the ark is in Turkey, ( everyone except you ), you can't just throw out things and that makes them true, he does say homosexuals are an abomination to him. i mention that one because you were the closest to having it right, but that is all he says. i will watch your video, i'll do that now.
@you457wx No everyone doesn't know that the ark is in Turkey. Please provide me with a links to this evidence of the ark. You can send them to me in a PM if you would.
@you457wx Pictures of the arc? Really? And is it 30 miles long as it must have been to house the thousends of different species of dinosaures you nutcases believe existed at the same time with humans before the flood?
@wisemasterful 300 yards long as described in the bible, and i feel that those of us that haven't read the bible,( in us i mean you ), shouldn't have a comment. i don't believe dinosaures were on the ark, like you said, with humans BEFORE the flood. anyone that has to resort to name calling to make a point, isn't able to process information very well, so it comes down to second grade logic, my mommy can beat up your mommy. sorry, that probably hurt you.
@you457wx "they have pictures i'll see what i can do"
Still waiting on that evidence. It is clear that you are one very gullible person if you think they have found the ark. You are the only person I have ever met who believes such nonsense.
@you457wx NETWRITER your video was pretty weak, no facts as usual, just one persons opinion, you would think with all your videos, you could make a good one.
@Netwriter "'word of god' tells you to kill homosexuals (and the quote goes on)".... no that is not the word of God, or the belief of the catholic church, whoever told you that is incredibly wrong - if you truly believe that that is what we believe, then you know nothing about our faith at all.
@fathemi I don't care what one of 38K sects of christianity claims to believe. The bible Lev 20:13 says that homosexuals are to be killed. That you don't know what the supposed "word of god" says is very revealing. It proves that you don't do what the bible says to do. II Timothy 2:15 "Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth."
Posers claiming to be believers don't even know their own book. It is very sad.
@Netwriter And Leviticus also says in 20:9 "For anyone who curses his father or his mother shall surely be put to death; he has cursed his father or his mother; his blood is upon him." The same book also says that it's an abomination to eat shellfish, insects, wear clothes made of two different materials, have sex with a woman during her period, plant two different crops in the same field so actually if you're follow it, you have to follow EVERYTHING! (no cherrypicking that is)
@Netwriter But you're right, Christians constantly accept some parts of the book and not others. I have rejected all of it and other religions too for that matter.
@GaeilgeSpraoi There is a religion that you can embrace. I am doing a video now about the religion of Creatianity, the belief that I hold. Should have it uploaded by the end of the weekend.
@Netwriter God made "satan" yes. But satan was lucifer then...an angel created by God. He was very beautiful in fact. But because of his pride and desires to put down God he took 1/3 of the angels with him. But God is more powerful than him so God cast him into the world.Satan is the prince of this world and if you follow the trends or ways of this world then you are of satan. The truth hurts. But i tell you the truth will set you free.
@Netwriter Its satan's desires who pushed him to disobey God. God loves all of us that He gave us free will. He doesnt want to control us. God made the world but the world new him not. but he still loves us. Its your choice to believe in him or not all im saying is that He is true and the bible is true. Even Isaac newton a scientist proclaimed God is great. Do you even believe in satan?
@Netwriter OK I don't hate you for not believing in God. But let me give you something to think of OK. Let's just say there is no God. There is no heaven and no hell. Just as you believe. Both of us dies. What will happen to me? Me who believes in God? Nothing right? But what if there is really a God? A heaven and a hell? The question is......what will happen to you?
@Netwriter If you believe in God what will you loose? If there is no God like you said then there is nothing to loose. But what if there is God like we Christians believe? That is what you've gotta think about.
@Netwriter (smile)...at least I have someone to believe in. I have a God to pour out my fears. I'd rather believe in God than believe that he is not true even though He's true. From all your years living in this world, have you not said " my god" or "oh, god" even you don't believe in him? A man is really a fool when he is worshiping the wrong god. I'm glad my God is true..............
@Netwriter Let me give you something to think about. Let's say there is no God. No heaven. No hell. When I die what will happen to me because i believed in God? Like you said nothing. But what if there is a God and there is heaven and hell. When you die what do you think will happen to you? Give me an answer. Based on my question.ok?
@aseru152 I don't know what will happen to you or I after death and neither do you. If there is a god, the odds that you have picked the right one out of the thousands that men have invented is slim to none. Who is the wiser person, the man who worships no god, or the person who worships the wrong one?
I'm an atheist. However most of the US is not. Something like 80%+ of the population is religious. So, how can the society believe one thing(God) yet teach another(Evolution) in school. This just shows the disconnect with critical thinking. I don't understand this paradox. Can anyone explain it to me?
I really don't believe the the government should support schools that teach a specific religion. It would be interesting though if there was a class on religion added to most schools. I think that children should understand what religion has to offer to people and also how it can be negative if taken too the extreme. I attended a Christian school and i feel that it helped me to develope intellectually much faster than other children my age, but i never really got into the religious aspect of it.
I love how Richard Dawkin speaks truth and sense and when they ask the priest about his views on the matter he automatically goes back to the past without actually directly giving an argument agaisnt Dawkins views. funny. WHO GIVES A FUCK ABOUT WHAT THE CHURCH DID AT SUCH AND SUCH A DATE IN THE PAST.
It's funny because all the people I know that go/went to faith-based schools (Catholic primarily) regret it and only learned that it was annoying at best to attend.
I agree with the man who was against faith schools. They force children to identify with a certain religion (usually Catholicism or Judaism) here in the us. The school and parents should back off and let them decide for themselves.
@pudfaceaii he is not a legend, if you read the story of Scandinavian countries, with the religion the enlightments came. but Mr Richard who brought up in Colonial Kenia is looking for populality nathing to do for caring for childrens, in one way or another they will choose what to believe, when they grow up.
the more this country forget it's route, the society is loosing the moral values. no resepect for elderly, child pregenancy and bing drinking
Freedom of religions is to allow people to have religion, not forbid it
OrangeManIce 5 days ago
'Tradition' should not demand that we continue to lie to the children. Keep it real, brothers and sisters.
drumcircler 1 month ago
Well...I have been watching this Dawkins playlist here and it had many amazing discussions with guys like Krauss, Weinberg, and PZ Meyers. Actual people that know shit about things. Those were excellent. Then back to this religious nonsense. This is where I get off the bus.
Reip187 2 months ago in playlist Richard Dawkins Debates/Lectures
6:27 crossing legs in unison.
simonburbank 4 months ago
@simonburbank hahahahahahaha
tehgrim08 1 month ago
Religion should be taught in school so i can prove how its a whole bunch of make believe. (:
xOJaYz 4 months ago 3
RELIGION IS TO CONTROL THE SHEEP WITH FEAR
peopleopenyoureyes 4 months ago 5
Mr. Dawkins always brings up very interesting points to discuss
Gehgevgolol 5 months ago
@Gehgevgolol But they're never carried on. This is dry...
CharlieGMusic 5 months ago
Its horrible that many children need to attend a faith school if they want to get a good education.
Gehgevgolol 5 months ago 10
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A question for atheists. In a world where there's no proof of God's existence or of life after death; how will you explain to your children why you brought them into the world and why they should die?
QuestionForAtheists 6 months ago
Life would be so much easier if everyone were Atheist.
Baloonsnufsaid 6 months ago 5
You clearly cant understand, in my first comment to you I said, "Which by common sence you can clearly see God is not real."
TorresProductionz 6 months ago
god is just as mythological as Thor, Zeus, Aphrodite, Hades, etc. Ancients tried to explain natural phenomena with deities. Fortunately modern day humans understand the science of lightning, explosions, etc. Just because the origin of the universe is currently unknown does not mean that a god created it. Science will eventually have a theory of everything.
Religion only specializes in brainwashing. There is no truth to religion. End of story.
FallofDarkness55 6 months ago
@FallofDarkness55 God is just an Unfalsifiable Hypothesis, which is a Hypothesis that cannot be falsified, which there is no Scientific Test that you could set up that would prove conclusively whether God is real or fake. I can make any number of Unfalsifiable Statements, I could say that I could fly when nobody is looking. Which by common sence you can clearly see God is not real.
TorresProductionz 6 months ago
@TorresProductionz Sorry but god is actually a falsifiable hypothesis. It's not like god dwells in another dimension separate from the universe like most theists think. If god created the universe his existence and power would manifest in reality. understand now? i recommend reading The God Delusion by Richard Dawkins.
FallofDarkness55 6 months ago
@FallofDarkness55 // Sorry but god is actually a falsifiable hypothesis. It's not like god dwells in another dimension separate from the universe like most theists think. If god created the universe his existence and power would manifest in reality. understand now? //
Look you dont understand, there is no Scientific Test that you could set up that would prove conclusively whther God is real or fake. Your saying that hes not real without any proof, hes an UNfalsifiable Hypothesis.
TorresProductionz 6 months ago
@TorresProductionz Actually he is a FALSIFIABLE HYPOTHESIS!!! Take a coin and pray to god that the coin will land on heads fifty times in a row. It will never land on heads fifty times in a row and therefore these results proves that there is no personal god. If a god does exist, then it must be a deistic god which i still don't buy because i am a naturalist and not some crackpot super-naturalist. Understand now?
FallofDarkness55 6 months ago
@FallofDarkness55 Your points are ridiculous taking a coin and praying to god that it will turn heads 50 times in a row does'nt prove that God is a Falsifiable Hypothesis. Like I said BEFORE god is an Unfalsifiable Hypothesis unless nobody can prove that hes real or fake. Im an atheist I dont believe in a god but this is a Scientific Explanation for the "God". Understand? Hey dude I can fly without you looking, thats a Unfalsifiable Hypothesis, cant be Scientifically proven. Dumbass. Understand?
TorresProductionz 6 months ago
@TorresProductionz "you can fly without me looking"<-what are you high on? i don't believe you and that's the nature of a rational brain. I disbelieve until proven. Let me ask you this...Do you believe in fairies until disproven or do you disbelieve in fairies until proven with irrefutable evidence? If you were a rational atheist you would recognize this point and you wouldn't be so weak in your thinking. You can also quit with the ad hominem attacks. Understand now?
FallofDarkness55 6 months ago
@FallofDarkness55 //You can fly without me looking// was an example of an Unfalsifiable Hypothesis, nobody believes that they think its absolutely dumb and stupid, same way as I think of Religion and God. You still dont understand an Unfalsifiable Hypothesis, its the true scientific explanation for god and anything else, like the example I gave you, which you clearly couldnt understand. Im not saying I believe in fairies until disproven or proven, not enough room..
TorresProductionz 6 months ago
@TorresProductionz We're entitled to your own mentality but unfortunately i see religion from a different perspective. It's an industry that takes in lots of money and threatens people with hell if they don't attend their church/prayer service. go watch George Carlin's videos and maybe you will stop having such an indecisive and weak mind. Also I view god as a type of Zeus. Zeus was the controller of lightning. And now religion has convinced people that god controls the universe. it's bullshit!
FallofDarkness55 6 months ago
@FallofDarkness55 //watch George Carlin's videos and maybe you will stop having such an indecisive and weak mind//
Seriously? Im on your side dude, I was just giving a SCIENTIFIC EXPLANATION for God. WHAT the FUCK is your SCIENTIFIC EXPLANATION??? You changed this topic to George Carlin from a Scientific Explanation that you tryed to prove wrong with a bunch of commen sence were in common dude were atheists fuck god and religion
TorresProductionz 6 months ago
@TorresProductionz yes i agree with you. but i also hate it when certain people don't have a religion and yet they claim they are an agnostic. they are weak to say that religion is bullshit!!!!!!!!
FallofDarkness55 6 months ago
@FallofDarkness55 Well, i thing religion is lunacy. Am i weak? I have read the Bible, taken Seventh Day Adventist courses...(laughable as hell btw) speak with, to this day, with Mormons and Jehovah's witness folk, and i use to attend a Faith Baptist Church. How am i weak?
Enlighten me if you will. WHY not keep religion in a religious institution ie Church, and keep education in an edcuational insitute, ie schools? How hard is this?
fitasafiddle123 5 months ago
@fitasafiddle123 I agree. It shouldn't be that hard. America is killing education because most of the people in power are religious. You're not weak because you admit that religion is run by crazy lunatics. In fact there should be an "atheistic" commandment i.e. "thou shalt keep thy religion to thyself"
FallofDarkness55 5 months ago
@TorresProductionz l2spell
runebagel 5 months ago
@runebagel Otherwise
TorresProductionz 5 months ago
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there's nothing true about religion. it's all about bribery, threats, and being a sycophant to an idea which is laughably absurd to any rational person. In fact religion advocates a childish mentality. It's funny how theists say we atheists need to disprove god. Well I guess we also need to disprove fairies stupid fucks. lol.
FallofDarkness55 6 months ago
dont christians find it ironic that the very first amendment in the bill of rights the framers made sure the to spell out out the Establishment of Religion?
thesageofohio 6 months ago
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@dwolfcoach The people who wrote those scriptures you speak of, were most likely covering their asses if anybody caught them in the lie/ mistake.
"Make you sure watch out for man tainting the word of God, even though I am a man myself, but you can trust me!"
**face palm**
theBartone9119 6 months ago
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theBartone9119 6 months ago
Any Parent can make up a religion and there child will believe it.
TheMagicalPuffBunny 6 months ago
Well, I agree that science has no business in the metaphysical world. My problem w/ that world is that it is totally open to anything that charlatans can construct. I'm not calling you a charlatan, but there are too many of them to count. Faith healers, to "glass looking", to mega church millionaires, all claiming to have the truth, the one truth. How many religions can be right? Science will get it right, because they operate on better ethics-it's demonstrable. I'm done, be good old friend.
dwolfcoach 6 months ago
@dwolfcoach
Religion is not Biblical. Scriptures warn against man polluting the word, and that he will in fact do so. The Romans used the books to feed their lusts of power and control, still do thousand years later. Mega churches, faith healers, tv evangelists begging for $, all crooks in my eyes, I'm on your side there. Nothing to do with straight scriptural teachings. Man will poison whatever they get their hands on to work in their best interest. Best to you, appreciate the civil convo.
h2omanz 6 months ago
@h2omanz "Scriptures warn against man polluting the word" This statement is laughable. Who wrote these scriptures that "warn" about these men? Did it ever occur to you that that men who wrote those scriptures were themselves deceivers?
theBartone9119 6 months ago
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@theBartone9119
Wife's account, can reply via h2omanz.
What were the author's 'specific' purpose of deception, gain and intent?
h2omanz 6 months ago
@theBartone9119
Waiting for your reply. If the Biblical authors were deceivers, I really want to know why. Why would anyone give up everything for a lie and what is the purpose of deceiving, when there is absolutely nothing to be gained? I mean many left careers/families behind, risking torture/death/being flayed alive, threat of being robbed, starvation via martyrdom, doesn't make sense. Maybe when you have time between rolln blunts n bustn raps,you'll let me know, as I too need a good laugh.
h2omanz 6 months ago
@h2omanz First of all, that last part was completely unneeded, and is completely disrespectful. Now onto the topic, why would they deceive? They wanted to create an answer (And religion) to why and how life got here. Now, they wanted this religion to keep people in line. If you say "Oh if you lie or murder, you're going to burn in hellfire for eternity," then the chances are that most people will not murder. That is why they were deceivers.
LPAcerAspireOne 6 months ago
@LPAcerAspireOne
1. Someone calling my comment laughable directed the path of the conversation. A small poke at pot/rap music isn't something to get ones chonie's all wadded up about, especially when its not aimed at you.The Romans were the ones that took the books centuries later to control the masses, not the apostles. Your claim of conspiracy/deceiving fails on all levels. Basic rules of creditability, no contradictory accounts,
h2omanz 6 months ago
2.Occam's Razor, collaborate impossibilities, persecution for a lie etc...Your theory is full of problems.
h2omanz 6 months ago
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theBartone9119 6 months ago
Dawkins hits the nail on the head with his opening statement.
japeye62 6 months ago
@fatlardass2000
1.Evolution theory is pure tenet, taught desperately to excuse 1self from the obvious. A boat with many a hole and is sinking fast. It can't be demonstrated because its pseudo and has nothing to do with real science. Scientific laws have shown/proven why its not scientific, and goes against the very definition of science. The schools should included in their science books several 'scientific facts' that prove ToE is nothing more than philosophy base on faith. God has no theory?
h2omanz 7 months ago
2.There is plenty to test. And He encourages it, to allow Him to prove who He says He is.
However and sadly for most Its spiritually tested. Requires you lay down your pride, open your heart, and most are unwilling to do so. As well if you don't want anything to do with Him, He makes distant and will honor you and your decision. There is much evidence to back the words of the Bible, making it logical enough to pursue and take God up on his words/test. The Giant boat theory, oddly, isolated
h2omanz 7 months ago
3., isolated civilizations worldwide all share the same story of a man/family on a boat w/animals surviving a worldwide flood...weird. The others, parting seas/virgin births, yes, are hard to fathom. However its quite a small feat after creating the universe and all and in between down to a tiny seed. I like the fairy tale of soup eventually turning into a man, where the main law of biology is broken, life from non life.
h2omanz 7 months ago
4. And its needed/used to make ridiculous theories such as TOE work, as without such made up claims(by the way is proven impossible, yet taught as fact?), the theory is dead.
h2omanz 7 months ago
@h2omanz The theory is dead? Had you any scientific education you'd know that the term theory is the highest possible status given to a scientific idea, and no amount of validation takes it to a hierarchy above that. Then if you'd bother to look at all of the evidence you'd know that you have to reject branches of science to conclude it's false. Ask yourself why you have the genes for a fully functioning tail, whales the genes for legs and chromosome 2 is a fusion at two previous telomeres.
dwolfcoach 7 months ago
@h2omanz Most important in this matter is that truth should be our rallying cry. Anyone that claims a high degree of integrity in making truth claims should respect the overwhelming, compelling, unambiguous evidence that supports evolution and the descent of man. Any other myth claim in the face of this degree evidence is proof that your faith will continue its terminal decline. It doesn't have to be this way. Evidence and reason will win-it always has.
dwolfcoach 7 months ago
@dwolfcoach
1.I also know a theory is a well documented hypotheses and are 'always' considered tentative. The 'theory' is philosophy, has nothing to do with the definition of science. Evolution is fact, has only proving limits thus far, everything past is extrapolation. The only branches I've rejected are the ones that can't be proven or haven't yet for that matter. Genes for tail? You must mean anomalous growths. Whales legs, these are bones to control the animals muscles/lower region(muscle
h2omanz 7 months ago
2.attachment).
Chromo2:The pretelomeric/telomeric/reverse telomeric sequences of Chrom2 bandings are similar but 'not' identical. Teleomare fusion is only speculative. Different dna elements lay within the telomeres as well, not proof of ancestry. Chrom2 having an inactive centrom, though rare, occurs and is known as neocentromes(coupling). Not proof, any more than it is for a common design. I concur with you via evidence and reason, as a truth does supplies such.
h2omanz 7 months ago
@h2omanz Well, I guess you've managed to assert your opinion, but in science your opinion doesn't matter. Science deals in evidence and peer review. The theory you're questioning is 150 years old that has been emboldened by genetics, biochemistry, biology, geology, archaeology, anthropology, virology, microbiology, ecology, biophysics, etc.-almost every branch of science supports or corroborates this theory. Send me one, just one, peer reviewed link or citation that supports your position.
dwolfcoach 7 months ago
@dwolfcoach
1.Correct my opinion doesn't matter. In a bias field funded by the government with just one desired outcome, why would it.
How most of those sciences you listed back up molecule to monkey to you is beyond me. Each one of the sciences basis belittles the possibility of ToE. Establishing a hypothesis hundreds of years ago, and having science do a dance/wrap to make a philosophy, scientific is why the theory has so many holes/problems.
h2omanz 7 months ago
2.How do you suppose I give you a peer review when creationists aren't allowed/ridiculed due to the methodology, as only naturalistic explanations are excepted. Any one scientist that is funded, claiming different is out of job come Monday morning.
h2omanz 7 months ago
@h2omanz I expect them to submit EVIDENCE, and their explanation and let them fight it out just like a scientist is expected to be have. If you want to fight the evidence of evolution you can't just assert your ideas, you must provide the rigorous pathway from your conclusions are drawn. If you want to change the idea of duodenal ulcers using bacteria as as a causative agent, you must go through the same process-and evidence, eventually wins the day. Play by the rules!
dwolfcoach 7 months ago
@dwolfcoach
Funny thing is I'm not in the game, in the manner you are. I want nothing to do with a government controlled area that wants to do away with God. If you believe your science has 'answered' such things as the laws of physics, stellar-planetary/cosmic/organic/macro evolution..full throttle! I accept something to be scientific when it meets the scientific definition and can be proven via the scientific method.Not something that requires much needed faith, yet is labeled/taught as fact.
h2omanz 7 months ago
@h2omanz I can see that. I think science has answered much of what you describe, and the answers are well supported by evidence. Where scientific ignorance occurs, you're free to insert your god of the gaps. The problem then becomes, which god? The depth of your faith speaks nothing to this issue. If you want to believe it is Ganesha, the elephant god, knock yourself out. Me, I will always explain the million of pieces of facts that support evolution and the total lack of evidence for its demise
dwolfcoach 7 months ago
@dwolfcoach
Science has answered much of what I've described? Well supported?Not by a long shot. Science has/can only 'describe', science can never 'explain' anything. Science may state they 'know', fact is that's its funded goal, and the 'facts' are empirical guestimates/extrapolation. The God of the Bible, the one true God. Ganesha, doesn't have really too much to stand on. If you want to believe man evolved without proof past philosophical science, again thats all you. Happy 4th..
h2omanz 6 months ago
@h2omanz Ganesha doesn't have much to stand on? But the one true god does? Like? You lose on astronomy, anatomy, microbiology, anthropology, archaeology, geology, psychology, and sociology. Where was/is the Bible right? Pestilence, genocide, infanticide, fear...? Under what evidence would support your case for your "one true God"? You're still ignoring the facts old buddy! Many, many facts!
dwolfcoach 6 months ago
@dwolfcoach
1.This is a pointless on both ends as we have what we consider our evidences and they are not the same, yet both rely on faith of a different color. We can go back and forth for awhile, but I will get bored soon. I love how junk/philo science is presented exploiting the notion that earth sciences have actually proven even a single thing, furthermore has disproved God. Again science observes/describes never can it prove/explain your claim of 'many, many so called facts'. Every
h2omanz 6 months ago
2.single piece of evidence clung to are 100% probability rooted from metaphysical teachings taught as fact, always changing always in need of correction. Humans know around .6ish% of origins/earth's history, yet can claim to 'know'??That's logical? Contrary to what you perceive as evidence, 'fact' rests on the much need inductive reasoning of your faith's CORE belief. Which depend on accidents, luck, randomness, chance and fate. You cant measure God via physical/chemical instruments. You have to
h2omanz 6 months ago
3.be crazy to expect to find God using the scientific method(science), and when one can't, use it as evidence against God. This is the popularized and shameful method used today by skeptics, as if science has indeed replaced God. Rejecting the notion that something happening for no reason, and the result is incredible complexity/laws/orders and beauty is evidence in itself.
h2omanz 6 months ago
4.The fact that you have already blown off the most obvious evidence of God, which is proven as easily as looking out the window, shows me you have already predetermined, and reject any evidence put forth thereafter. Your list of 'evil//fear driven' proves you are ignorant of His works in the Bible, as well.
h2omanz 6 months ago
@h2omanz I understand that epistemology is our issue. What I can't fathom is how you can claim evidence for god, the Bible or your epistemology. This is related to the sources and limits of knowledge. Do you reject the germ theory? Demons and evil spirits are the alternative. How about a heliocentric solar system? did Joshua stop the Sun in the sky? Pssst, it doesn't move in relation to the the Earth. How you think you can reject genomic evidence because you feel "good" about it, doesn't work.
dwolfcoach 6 months ago
@h2omanz I think you're a nice Christian, but we need to find peaceful ways for societies to coexist. I don't think you'll be able to sell your "junk/philo" anti-science jargon much longer. People don't go to hospitals to see a reverend, they go to see medical scientists-because they know they're held to higher standards than faith. Willful ignorance is not the way of the future. You'll go down kicking, but you'll go down nonetheless. I still wish you the best, and thank you for no ad hominem.
dwolfcoach 6 months ago
@dwolfcoach
1.The reason you can't fathom my philosophy/epistemology, is probably the fact of your indoctrination, education, and into career, love for science at an early age etc.?? I used to believe what my science teacher told me was fact until I actually decided to investigate it myself. Laid down all bias, researched all claims including science/religions/languages for years, still do. Real science and God are 100% compatible, it is the so called disguised science that relies
h2omanz 6 months ago
2.solely on philosophy and seems to disregard science by definition, eluding basic laws and observable/provable principles. It is this such type that conflicts with science, not God.
Germ theory denialist, :)no. Will I/my kids go to the hospital if sick, of course. Will I pray for God to work thru Drs, of course. Geocentrism, was a worldwide belief, even by those who never heard of Christianity. As well it was the scientists, philosophers at that time that wanted to silence Galileo too, not just
h2omanz 6 months ago
3.the church. The church basically didn't want an uproar, causing mass division of the churches they established. Joshua, translated via Hebrew from my studies was requesting a 'lengthening' of a day. And also read that astronomical calculations is missing one full day, reported by many civilizations worldwide of that very time in history. Many theories on this one.
I wish you the best too. I will go down kick n screaming fighting for what truths God has revealed to me time and time again.
h2omanz 6 months ago
4.The ones that are revealed on another level, spiritually, the side where science has no bearing. Never knowing this type of evidence, makes people ignorant of God as human pride and selfishness will hold up the wall to keep God out. And He will honor that decision, and give you over to your desired belief.
h2omanz 6 months ago
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@h2omanz If your only support for your faith is a poorly constructed "government controlled area that wants to do away with God" conspiracy, that is your business as well, but I think you're turning your faith into a cult and you will lose your credibility to subsequent generations.
Thank you for a respectful discussion, and the best to you my friend.
dwolfcoach 7 months ago
I believe that there should never be the one religion enforced as compulsory learning at school, unless that school is based around that religion i.e catholic schools. Countries such as the U.S.A, Australia, Canada, England etc. have stated in their consitutions that the government cannot be prejudice or prohibit the beliefs or worship of its people, so why would we teach the one religion(most commonly christianity) when it is not the unanimous religion. Other cultures need to be considered
BuddhaChrist13 7 months ago
Religion outta school is fine. What should be taught in science class is 'real' testable science not evolution theorized philosophy.
h2omanz 7 months ago
@h2omanz Well with your comment you make it sound as if you do not believe evolution to be testable so... i guess... Horse breeding and dog breeding are lies they are fake and not real? Or does GOD let the dogs have different types of puppies? Also, evolution is accepted by 93% of the scientists on the Human Genome Project. 93% of them. People researching OUR dna. Are they liars? Blasphemers?
knight5659 7 months ago
@knight5659
I never stated a word about evolution, only the theory of it. Your horse/dog babble doesn't make sense. Evolution is accepted by 93% of scientists, that's great as an astonishing 99% of priests believe in God. 2010 Scientists polls are at 73% that believe in a Deity, believers are asked to leave their faith at home as the grants want naturalistic explanations, nothing more. Again science class should contain real, testable science not philosophical/bias claims that have no backing.
h2omanz 7 months ago
So what if the majority in this country are or were christian? Founded with christian beliefs. At one time the majority thought the world was flat. Being in the majority does not make you right. Just means that more people were wrong!!
buddybleau 8 months ago 20
@buddybleau The US was founded by deists and atheists. Not by Christians.
Wiiownz16 6 months ago 24
@Wiiownz16 I agree.
buddybleau 6 months ago
@Wiiownz16 Our founding fathers were Atheists, they need to change the saying that it was founded by Christians I find it very absurd.
TorresProductionz 6 months ago
Why the hell do people keep bringing up the past of our country bla bla!
KeySour 8 months ago
Dr Mukaddam was my head teacher :D
ConverseAholic 8 months ago
At 6:26 all three of them cross their legs at the same time.
knowwaie 8 months ago
CHRISTIANS IGNORE FACTS! THEY R "DON'T CONFUSE ME WITH THE FACTS" PEOPLE AND ALL RELIGIONS R! SO SCREW YOU ALL!!!
MsGUITARHEROFAN 8 months ago
The simple fact that the majority of top comments on video's like this are decidedly atheist proves, if nothing else, that more atheists are more willing to watch fair, unbiased debates about religion than their religious counterparts.
Dzzo222 9 months ago
you are my personal hero, dawkins
osiris3yhn 9 months ago
Religion is already taught in school.When you finish science you have reached god.If you don know why.Science concludes to the mysterious creation of humans."Theory of Evolution" This is a theory which is how you have reach god.A famous atheist scientist actually switched to Christian because there was no explanation for the theory of evolution.
danicepeda 9 months ago
@danicepeda Perhaps you should actually try to understand the fact of evolution by natural selection before you say things like, "Science concludes to the mysterious creation of humans." We know where human beings came from, and there is no debate. The argument does not exist except for in the minds of those who refuse to accept the facts. You may choose to ignore the fact if you wish to remain deluded, but it will remain a fact, no matter how many people "don't believe it".
Sharkmate004 8 months ago
I submit that all religions are dangerous. And to force your religion on to your child just because you "think" it is the right religion is child abuse. All religious sects are socialist and quite delusional, I mean, no one has seen any gods. It is a mystical world of make believe. When the last stone from the last church falls on the head of the last clergy, then maybe we will find peace. Your mind will never think freely as long as you believe in the never, never land. That pie in the sky!
buddybleau 9 months ago
@buddybleau yep.
KeySour 8 months ago
If Rev. Price attaches so much importance to what Britain was in the past regarding religion, why isn't he advocating Paganism? It was the norm long before Christianity made it's way over here.
UncleFeedle 9 months ago
Not sure about Jonathan Dimbleby's hair cut 8|
HeadieMung 9 months ago
In the beginning Adam and Even loved and cherished the world and made for themselves a beautiful garden. But one day a serpent, let’s call it religion, tempted them and said “I can give you a much better world than this. But first you must deny this world and when you die you can live forever with me in heaven” They agreed and their garden fell to ruin and the universal language of science was lost to them. Instead they and their descendants dreamed of heaven and became cruel and ignorant.
ritchloui 10 months ago
This is nonsense. In New York City the Catholic Schools did the best job of educating the children of the immigrant working class. In the public schools my cousins were assigned to low achieving classes because their parents were Italians. I went to the Catholic schools and was expected to do my best. I was Phi Beta Kappa at college, a Lt. in the US Army and a graduate of Harvard Law School. My best teachers were in those Catholic Schools.
trajan75 10 months ago
you know why religion take over education because they could controle what people should learn( limite knowleg) and could manipulate young child how they think ( easier to brain wash)
mystisme 10 months ago
@mystisme In the beginning Adam and Even loved the world and made for themselves a beautiful garden. But one day a serpent, let’s call it religion, tempted them and said “I can give you a much better world. But first you must deny this world and when you die you can live forever with me in heaven” They agreed and their garden fell to ruin and the universal language of science was lost to them. Instead they and their descendants dreamed of heaven and became cruel and ignorant.
ritchloui 10 months ago
I read a comment somewhere here on youtube, the author said ``you should treat religion like your penis, don't show it off in public and don't ram it down your childrens throats.
o0huia0o 10 months ago
Dear Viewers
Sad to see Millions being mislead. Flee false religion! It’s soon to be destroyed 2Thessalonians1:6-9; Revelation12:9; 18:4
Identify the True Religion. Like JESUS True Worshipers:
Use God’s Word, the BIBLE, & reject false doctrines 2Timothy3:16; Isaiah29:13
Practice LOVE, & shun wars, violence, &politics John13:35 1John4:20
Hold high MORAL standard, & rebuke immorality Ephesians5:10,28,33; 6:1 1Corinthians6:9,10
Go to "Watchtower org" click 'Index' or 'Contact Us' or 'Search'
plptous 10 months ago
Religion in school? Yes. But ALL religions.
100littlecurses 10 months ago
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John 1:1-3 says " In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.He was in the beginning with God; all things were made through him, and without him was not anything made that was made." so God made all things... that's why you exist.... u dont have to ask yourself.... if God is real... there's many proofs around you... wake up people... God loves you so much
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butax77 10 months ago
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soyabmd 10 months ago
They can start teaching the lies and imperialist treachery of Christianity, Judaism and Islam in my schools the day we start teaching Darwin and the truth of evolution in those bull shit factories called churches, synagogues and mosques.
Religion is pure lies and manipulative fabrications in the service of state sponsored evil.
It is witchcraft of the foulest order meant for small minded hypocrites who seek strength in numbers and to wallow in their own smug ignorance.
Religion is poison.
TheColonelKlink 11 months ago
@TheColonelKlink Jesus hates religion....but it helps build our faith in Him. Providing that it is bible-based.
aseru152 10 months ago
Jesus is a fiction of the Roman Catholic Church. There is not one shred of historical evidence that he ever existed. This is something the Jews have always known & been persecuted for by the witches of Christianity. Even if he was real he would have been a Jew & would be appalled at the evil done to his people by the the butchers of Christian imperialism.
I have "faith" in discernible reality, not the witchcraft and deception of the Bible & Koran.
Jesus IS religion.
Religion is poison.
TheColonelKlink 10 months ago
@TheColonelKlink Jesus is not a fiction. He is true. The Bible is true and everything in it is true. And Christianity is NOT a religion. A person can call himself a Christian if he have received Christ in his heart and has a personal relationship with him. In other words its doesn't mean you are a Christian just by going to church. Without him we are nothing. Religion is made by man not by God. Jesus hates religion. Religion is not needed. Faith in him is what we need.
aseru152 10 months ago
aseru, Instead of parroting Christian ideology, why don't you study history? There is no mention of a character called Jesus until late in the first century. No writings. No birth records. No family burial plots. No execution records
The Bible did not even exist until the 4th century when the Emperor Constantine convened ecumenical councils to decide which ideology suited the Roman government best. Not even they could prove he existed.
Jesus was declared Divine in the 4th century. Religion!
TheColonelKlink 10 months ago
@TheColonelKlink you could think whatever you want. You are really studying history then.Its nice to hear that your studying "His Story"....try reading the Bible, it teaches history all right. it tells us about how we are created to what will take place in the future. Unless you believe in the theory of charles darwin that we are from apes. Well call me a fool.....but I won't accept that I'm from an ape. I'm made from God's own image........I believe you are too.
aseru152 10 months ago
@aseru152 Darwin describes "natural selection" by first describing "artificial selection" (i.e. dog breeding). This is not theory, it is proven fact. Science is an academic discipline.
Religion is fairy tales and ideology intended to keep populations in their place and Kings and the rich in their halls of privilege. Evolution demonstrates humans and the great apes share a common ancestor, not that we evolved from apes. Go to school. Get an education. Cast aside the occult insanity of religion.
TheColonelKlink 10 months ago 11
@TheColonelKlink Whatever you say. I stand on one answer.God is true.(smile)
aseru152 10 months ago
@aseru152
Smile? What are you, 12 years old?
I believe in God.
You "worship" the Hebrew/Arab demon Jehovah/Allah and the occult imperialist witchcraft of the Italian cult of Christianity.
Only the forces of evil require supplication & worship. God requires only belief & an honest heart. No witches who call themselves priests, preachers, rabbis & imams. No tomes of witchcraft such as the Bible & Koran.
Religion is not God. It is the ideological betrayal of humanity & the abandonment of God.
TheColonelKlink 10 months ago
@TheColonelKlink AMEN!
MuseToYourEars 10 months ago
@TheColonelKlink It's incredibly sad what humanity has become, the fact that primitive superstition such as religious beliefs, has lived on to a large part of the 21st century. Scientific progress has been held back so far by such beliefs that we could have amounted to so much more by now, it's really depressing to think about these things too much...
Jaytothecore 7 months ago
@Jaytothecore There is still hope. For over 1000 years the Christian Church controlled Europe & retarded scientific, political & social progress, then we had The Enlightenment, the American & French Revolutions & a rebirth of democracy. Science bloomed again & today we benefit from more advanced medicine as a result. We still suffer from extreme ideological issues that have led to technologically induced climate change. There will ups & downs in the centuries ahead. Our story is still unfolding.
TheColonelKlink 7 months ago
Matt 24:10 many will turn away from the faith. 2 Thes 2:3 Let no one in any way deceive you, for it (God's judgment upon the earth) will not come unless the apostasy (a falling away from the faith) comes first. Its alright, let them believe what they want to believe. If you are an open minded person... The bible is true not fact. But whose to say god didn't create the big bang? Some people need to realize when you bash someones belief, you just made them closed minded.
Twiztidguy 11 months ago
@Twiztidguy Of course it says many will turn away.. all religions say that... "Who is to say god didn't create the big bang"
Well.. If you claim this.. you WILL be judged.. do you have proof that god started the Big Bang?
rangergxi 11 months ago
@Twiztidguy you are absolutely right! But if they will never believe in God or the bible...... its their choice. We did our part as christians....... let God judge you on the judgement day.
aseru152 10 months ago
The three big religions Christianity, Islam, Judaism are the troublemakers most other religions don't have this doctrine, "Our way is the right and only way" In hinduism for example there is no concept of hersey or a wrong belief as all spiritual paths are equally valid. I'm personally all for religious schools, if Christianity would update itself to be compatiable with the 21 cent.
Silverhairedmage 11 months ago
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you457wx 11 months ago
religion is the greatest tool that satan has to deceive the world, then government, and lastly ignorance, as you can see by a majority of the comments posted on you tube. the scripture is not to be interpreted, or offered up for debate, it is a personal relationship between God and the reader, nourished through scripture. if you don't read your bible and interprete it through the Holy Spirit, then you don't know God.
you457wx 11 months ago
@you457wx You blame religion then suggest that everyone use the book that created all these satanic religions and seek the assistance of a ghost to understand it. It was the god of the bible who created satan. It is your book that tells us he is the god of this world. Don't you suffer from an acute form of cognitive dissonance when you do this? Dump the bible and search for god in the evidence all around us. Science will give you a very good head start in your search for god if there is one.
Netwriter 11 months ago
@Netwriter the teachings of the bible are different then those of the church, the church manipulates the word of God for profit. they want you to believe that you need them, people corrupts the bible, not vice versa. but all theories are a form of manipulation because they are not fact, so in sceince as well as scripture, you have to have faith. sceince also proves almost all of the bible to be fact, excluding creation, the flood (we have an ark) and a physical God
you457wx 11 months ago
@you457wx The "word of god" tells you to kill homosexuals, non-virgins women at marriage, unruly children, folks who work on Saturday and that slavery is fine, and a host of other immoral conduct. Yes, you have faith in science because it works. Faith in superstitions does not work. They do not have the ark. There was no ark. Watch my video "Exodence" then tell me again that the bible is fact. If you have proof that your god is real, then please present it.
Netwriter 11 months ago
@Netwriter everyone knows the ark is in Turkey, ( everyone except you ), you can't just throw out things and that makes them true, he does say homosexuals are an abomination to him. i mention that one because you were the closest to having it right, but that is all he says. i will watch your video, i'll do that now.
you457wx 11 months ago
@you457wx No everyone doesn't know that the ark is in Turkey. Please provide me with a links to this evidence of the ark. You can send them to me in a PM if you would.
Netwriter 11 months ago
@Netwriter they have pictures i'll see what i can do
you457wx 11 months ago
@you457wx Pictures of the arc? Really? And is it 30 miles long as it must have been to house the thousends of different species of dinosaures you nutcases believe existed at the same time with humans before the flood?
wisemasterful 11 months ago
@wisemasterful 300 yards long as described in the bible, and i feel that those of us that haven't read the bible,( in us i mean you ), shouldn't have a comment. i don't believe dinosaures were on the ark, like you said, with humans BEFORE the flood. anyone that has to resort to name calling to make a point, isn't able to process information very well, so it comes down to second grade logic, my mommy can beat up your mommy. sorry, that probably hurt you.
you457wx 11 months ago
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@you457wx "they have pictures i'll see what i can do"
Still waiting on that evidence. It is clear that you are one very gullible person if you think they have found the ark. You are the only person I have ever met who believes such nonsense.
Netwriter 10 months ago
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you457wx 11 months ago
@you457wx NETWRITER your video was pretty weak, no facts as usual, just one persons opinion, you would think with all your videos, you could make a good one.
you457wx 11 months ago
@Netwriter "'word of god' tells you to kill homosexuals (and the quote goes on)".... no that is not the word of God, or the belief of the catholic church, whoever told you that is incredibly wrong - if you truly believe that that is what we believe, then you know nothing about our faith at all.
fathemi 10 months ago
@fathemi I don't care what one of 38K sects of christianity claims to believe. The bible Lev 20:13 says that homosexuals are to be killed. That you don't know what the supposed "word of god" says is very revealing. It proves that you don't do what the bible says to do. II Timothy 2:15 "Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth."
Posers claiming to be believers don't even know their own book. It is very sad.
Netwriter 10 months ago
@Netwriter And Leviticus also says in 20:9 "For anyone who curses his father or his mother shall surely be put to death; he has cursed his father or his mother; his blood is upon him." The same book also says that it's an abomination to eat shellfish, insects, wear clothes made of two different materials, have sex with a woman during her period, plant two different crops in the same field so actually if you're follow it, you have to follow EVERYTHING! (no cherrypicking that is)
GaeilgeSpraoi 10 months ago
@Netwriter But you're right, Christians constantly accept some parts of the book and not others. I have rejected all of it and other religions too for that matter.
GaeilgeSpraoi 10 months ago
@GaeilgeSpraoi There is a religion that you can embrace. I am doing a video now about the religion of Creatianity, the belief that I hold. Should have it uploaded by the end of the weekend.
Netwriter 10 months ago
@Netwriter God made "satan" yes. But satan was lucifer then...an angel created by God. He was very beautiful in fact. But because of his pride and desires to put down God he took 1/3 of the angels with him. But God is more powerful than him so God cast him into the world.Satan is the prince of this world and if you follow the trends or ways of this world then you are of satan. The truth hurts. But i tell you the truth will set you free.
aseru152 10 months ago
@aseru152 There is no way around it, if your god is omni then he created Satan to be just as he is, doing the will of your god.
Netwriter 10 months ago
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aseru152 10 months ago
@Netwriter Its satan's desires who pushed him to disobey God. God loves all of us that He gave us free will. He doesnt want to control us. God made the world but the world new him not. but he still loves us. Its your choice to believe in him or not all im saying is that He is true and the bible is true. Even Isaac newton a scientist proclaimed God is great. Do you even believe in satan?
aseru152 10 months ago
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aseru152 10 months ago
@aseru152 Free will is impossible with and omni god. The rest of your comment is nothing but bald assertions.
Netwriter 10 months ago
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@Netwriter OK I don't hate you for not believing in God. But let me give you something to think of OK. Let's just say there is no God. There is no heaven and no hell. Just as you believe. Both of us dies. What will happen to me? Me who believes in God? Nothing right? But what if there is really a God? A heaven and a hell? The question is......what will happen to you?
aseru152 10 months ago
@Netwriter If you believe in God what will you loose? If there is no God like you said then there is nothing to loose. But what if there is God like we Christians believe? That is what you've gotta think about.
aseru152 10 months ago
@aseru152 What if you believe in the wrong god?
A man who worships no god is wiser than the man who worships the wrong one.
-Gali Yonvadisi
Until a theist comes forward with proof that their god is real, pascal's wager will always be a fallacy.
Netwriter 10 months ago
@Netwriter (smile)...at least I have someone to believe in. I have a God to pour out my fears. I'd rather believe in God than believe that he is not true even though He's true. From all your years living in this world, have you not said " my god" or "oh, god" even you don't believe in him? A man is really a fool when he is worshiping the wrong god. I'm glad my God is true..............
aseru152 10 months ago
@aseru152 Keep that hope alive, but until you can prove it you are no different than the child who believes in Santa.
Netwriter 10 months ago
@Netwriter Let me give you something to think about. Let's say there is no God. No heaven. No hell. When I die what will happen to me because i believed in God? Like you said nothing. But what if there is a God and there is heaven and hell. When you die what do you think will happen to you? Give me an answer. Based on my question.ok?
aseru152 10 months ago
@aseru152 I don't know what will happen to you or I after death and neither do you. If there is a god, the odds that you have picked the right one out of the thousands that men have invented is slim to none. Who is the wiser person, the man who worships no god, or the person who worships the wrong one?
Netwriter 10 months ago
@Netwriter He is the God of the heavens and of the earth.
aseru152 10 months ago
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you457wx 11 months ago
I'm an atheist. However most of the US is not. Something like 80%+ of the population is religious. So, how can the society believe one thing(God) yet teach another(Evolution) in school. This just shows the disconnect with critical thinking. I don't understand this paradox. Can anyone explain it to me?
MarkandJanna 1 year ago
@MarkandJanna Because the purpose of education is to teach the truth, not superstitions and mythologies.
Netwriter 10 months ago
I've never seen a Muslim in my school, but thats probably because i live in San Antonio and most of the Texan Muslim population lives in Houston.
junkers1337 1 year ago
answer make religion a elective in schools that way people who don't believe in god don't have to
extremeeXrement1 1 year ago
Richard Dawkins kicks so much ass!! ..I think I might be a little bit in love with him haha
anetchi 1 year ago
2:56 -> -_-
BLUEC0RE 1 year ago
You can notice by their speech that They are attacking on Islam
kurdishleader 1 year ago
I really don't believe the the government should support schools that teach a specific religion. It would be interesting though if there was a class on religion added to most schools. I think that children should understand what religion has to offer to people and also how it can be negative if taken too the extreme. I attended a Christian school and i feel that it helped me to develope intellectually much faster than other children my age, but i never really got into the religious aspect of it.
robotrox4pres 1 year ago
@robotrox4pres There should really be private non-christian schools.
druidic6 1 year ago
I love how Richard Dawkin speaks truth and sense and when they ask the priest about his views on the matter he automatically goes back to the past without actually directly giving an argument agaisnt Dawkins views. funny. WHO GIVES A FUCK ABOUT WHAT THE CHURCH DID AT SUCH AND SUCH A DATE IN THE PAST.
IGNsucks 1 year ago 40
It's funny because all the people I know that go/went to faith-based schools (Catholic primarily) regret it and only learned that it was annoying at best to attend.
trecool9992 1 year ago
I agree with the man who was against faith schools. They force children to identify with a certain religion (usually Catholicism or Judaism) here in the us. The school and parents should back off and let them decide for themselves.
ThunderZone9 1 year ago 2
@ThunderZone9 his name is RICHARD "kick religion ass" DAWKINS, legend of legends
pudfaceaii 1 year ago 17
@pudfaceaii he is not a legend, if you read the story of Scandinavian countries, with the religion the enlightments came. but Mr Richard who brought up in Colonial Kenia is looking for populality nathing to do for caring for childrens, in one way or another they will choose what to believe, when they grow up.
the more this country forget it's route, the society is loosing the moral values. no resepect for elderly, child pregenancy and bing drinking
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Fvilone 1 year ago