21st Century Long Hunter, Casting Lead Shot

[OldManGlitch]

Dave, can you show sometime how to get lead out of an old battery?

[robcas631]

Say the Lead word and people go nuts. Just wash your hands.

[munedawg1]

Dave, love the vids. I have heard many times not use wheel weights for muzzleloader balls because they contain tin and are too hard and will ruin the rifling in your barrel.

[rosdar76]

hey will ther be more dual survival?

[dog22boy]

use 36 cal, which is 000 buckshot, fits in 410 shells 

[TheChornaya]

And I agree with the previously stated comments about making shot in a separate fire, outside, separate from areas that you eat.  Lead contamination can occur when it is vaporized, but occurs mainly through touch - and it is worst when ingested. Don't let that lead ladle or that cast bounce around in your kit and rub against your bag because it will end up on your biscuits! It contaminates any container it's in, so i'd recommend to never put it in a container where food is stored.

[TheChornaya]

Awesome video Dave. In justifying my comments I will tell you I am a physician (MD). To start off, I am very impressed by how your brain comes up with your videos, your teaching, and your general approach to life. In the spirit of preserving that great brain, I cannot understate the neurotoxicity of lead. Wash those hands THOROUGHLY immediately after handling lead, especially before ingesting anything into your body. And isolate those tools in your pack (a separate bag?). God bless brother!

[1mrconservative]

Casting lead indoors is not a good idea. Even though most of the flue gases in your yurt exit, some effluent from the lead may not. You also cook on your stove.  Lead contamination is not good. Be safe.

[THREEFLOORSDOWN1]

PIMPTASTIC



[KillerFlyingFish]

can you use petroleum jelly as a replacement for tallow?

[nellyyllen1]

WD-40

[dandotreillydot42058]

self sufficient? will you mine your own led?

[GozonTheGonsarian]

@dandotreillydot42058 led? you mean galena. did u miss the part about car batteries and wheel weights? when you are hungry would you walk past a cart of free food and go plant a garden? car batteries and wheels are plentiful. look on the ground at any junk yard or old tire shop and have free lead.

[dandotreillydot42058]

@GozonTheGonsarian But if you are using a car battery that someone else made that completely goes against being self sufficient. 

[GozonTheGonsarian]

@dandotreillydot42058 like I said

deaf ears.

[dandotreillydot42058]

@GozonTheGonsarian You are so unbelievably racist you stupid chink. Don't call me names just because i'm Irish. I've never done anything to you so don't just start harassing me over the internet. If you grow the balls to say that to my face, then go an say it. ill be waiting. But just know that being an ignorant racist bastard while hiding behind your computer screen doesn't make you tough. You must be f*ed up in the brain from when your daddy raped you to be able say such disgusting things.

[GozonTheGonsarian]

@dandotreillydot42058 simmer down now, take your zoloft beavis

[dandotreillydot42058]

@GozonTheGonsarian Your imaginary friends are unimportant because you're a panda pounder.

[GozonTheGonsarian]

@dandotreillydot42058 sorry, after seeing your first comment bevis... deaf ears my bad.

[dandotreillydot42058]

balls

[Futuristics7]

Yah if it's lead it will melt

[confederatedipper100]

Dave could you also melt down lead fishing weights for ammo as well?

[straboh]

@confederatedipper100 yes lead fishing weights work great. A lot of lead use is being phased out because small game and birds sometimes consume it and get lead poisoning so the newer fishing weights are not lead. Old wheel weights for balancing tires is also good. Sometimes you can still come across quantities of lead pipe as well. Check with local regulations though because many places now forbid lead shot of any kind from any weapon including slingshots.

[samon880]

do you know where to find a shaper

[straboh]

@samon880 you can order them online at places like muzzleloadingandmore. They have several calibers to choose from by Lee Molds and are relatively inexpensive.

[thebowhunter921]

How old was Ryan when he passed the Pathfinder School?

[wildernessoutfitters]

@thebowhunter921 17

[trickykwoo2]

I would be VERY carefull with battery lead, fumes can be rather nasty for your health. I'm a bullet caster and do not use battery lead, if it was the ONLY lead I had maybe, but ventilation is a must

[GOODOLECOUNTRYBY]

What's the chances on getting a video done for the common man on recovering lead from a car or marine grade battery? I do a great deal of reloading as well as melting my own fishing weights. I understand there is a large amount of lead in these battery types but I cannot find any information on how to recover it from these batteries... I heard you mention melting lead from car batteries and I find you to be the most reliable source I know.

[GozonTheGonsarian]

@GOODOLECOUNTRYBY just pour some baking soda into the cells to neutralize the acid. drain, remove plastic case, harvest lead, rinse very well, avoid fumes when melting. i have worked on many industrial batteries there is nothing special in there just neutralize the acid first.

[PickaxePig]

I like Ryan. You should have him in more of your videos.

[koiphish]

Hey man... off the subject question. Did you ever have any trouble with the cut you made on your arm and gunpowdered it shut? You have a scar? Show us!

[Charsept]

i have a little forge in my back yard, made it to make knives from railroad spikes and rebar. never thought to make shot in it. i think i'll try that.

[GozonTheGonsarian]

@Charsept watch you temps, forge is overkill, 1000F max or lead will fume. you can melt lead on a propane stove.

[kskk9368]

I know you have to be careful with lead , my Dad was a plumber years ago and had water in lead it blew up and burn him bad. I,m not trying to criticize Dave either I love his Video,s. I only wish I could go camping but I,m disabled now but I still love being in woods. Sleeping all summer in woods. Well enough rambling for now, Oh listen to old timers they know a lot.

[donnt1000]

dave thanks for grouping the vids in their own catagory it makes it so easy to look a one series instead of having to hunt for them.

[3THE3GAMER3]

what camera do you use for your videos ?

[wildernessoutfitters]

@3THE3GAMER3 Canon and JVC, as well as Go Pro, depends on the video

[richardelam100]

I have to side with kskk9368 on this one. Granted, the yurt is likely well-ventilated, like an old logcabin or even a tipi. But running ball outside is best. We enjoy your show Dave and don't want to see you hurt.

Richard

southeast Tennessee

[SilentWolf1966]

Just bought a Bomb proof laptop for taking notes and watching Dave on the trail Thanks again Dave for the Awsome knowledge.Now i have Dave on the trail for advice...lol.

[Kellett781]

Ideal yurt tool Dave! Your own child labor to take care of some of the small tasks around camp! We do the same thing at civil war reenactments!

[arnoikke]

Don't know about american laws but I doubt that's actual lead since you bought that ball and I'd expect actual lead shot to be banned for hunting.

am I be right or wrong, 'cause I'm not sure?

[Kellett781]

@arnoikke you are wrong. EPA nazi have tried for years to make it illegal to hunt with lead bullets, claiming that lead is a hazard to the enviroment...though its found in nature. *shrug* Anyway, this push for such legislation has failed because it would effectively outlaw hunting with guns as ALL hunting loads for guns are made with lead. Sure, purchased lead has some other items added in, but it is mostly lead.

[RemMan700]

Casting with battery lead should be avoided. Battery lead contains toxins that are very harmful to breath in.

[Joe55darter]

I don't know why, but when I watch the Yurt Series or the 21st Century Long Hunter, I think Henry David Thoreau. Not bad company Dave!

[markshmily]

Very cool!

Thanks for sharing. =D

[13rbridge]

be careful you could get lead poisoning

[Waldhandwerk]

Cool bullets, massiv shoot. ...I like.

[DDamiani87]

That kids a lucky guy he goes into school on Monday and when his buddy asks him what he did over the weekend can say " I hung out with survival expert Dave Canerbury, made cheese, bullets and shotgun shells. How about you?"

[Dominicaislandmon]

@DDamiani87 Ditto!! I guarantee you he won't remember a chucky cheese trip, movie or dance recital.....but he'll remember in detail the conversations that took place in that yurt and around any campfire or on any fishing trip. You can't undo a million years of evolution in a 100 years of "civilized" society. You are not what is wrong with America, Dave!

[qezart]

Dave!

I just found a man named Chris Morasky who has 25 years of hand drilling experience and can work the drill without ever moving his hand position! He calls it the floating technique.

/watch?v=0WjHZJbebJc

[thehappyinfidel2011]

Dave, I appreciate all the things that you have shown me. But I can't help thinking that one of the most important things a person should consider towards surviving long term is vegetable seeds. Besides their value as trade goods eventually things will calm down. Another thing to consider is there is less wild game than there once was and it will be quickly exhausted. What is the answer then? How about gorilla farming and chicken/rabbit ranching when you finally emerge from your cave my brother.

[kskk9368]

Lead fumes can kill you, melt lead outside with some air blowing.

[happy04346]

@kskk9368 Molten lead has to be at a very high tempurature of over 700c degree's for it to have any effect on one's health. The lead has to become airborne to effect one's health... Lead melt at 327c. If one was to use 63% tin 37% lead (solder) the melting point would be 183c. Very easy to melt on a stove like Daves. But I would question what it would do to the barrel of the guns.

[Dominicaislandmon]

@kskk9368 I like the thought but I think the stove has such a good draft that it goes up the stack....

[richardelam100]

@kskk9368 Wise observation. I agree.

Jesus is coming soon.

Richard

southeast Tennessee

[trickykwoo2]

@kskk9368 lead fumes happen mainly when it is over heated, still ventilation is recommended and wash hands when done, no smoking, keep hands away from face.while casting.

[usbrotherhood11b]

@kskk9368 I cast hundreds of bullets every year indoors and have been tested twice a year for the past few years and have no increase in the amount of lead in my blood. Dave is perfectly safe making these 20 or 30 inside the yurt. It would become toxic and dangerous if he was melting lead in huge quanity (like tons upon tons).

[steve51704000]

@kskk9368 - I'm sure Dave Canterbury knows the ins and outs of lead.

[thehappyinfidel2011]

We used old tire weights to make both shot and sinkers.

[cantunseethis]

Should you really be making lead shot where you cook and eat?

[homeinthewhiteoaks]

Dave the best way I have seen to make lead shot is to make a mould out of hardwood. (really dry wood can't stress this enough) Water and lead are a dangerous mix. Cut a grove in the wood and pour lead in when the lead cools you have a line of lead that you cut with a knife to make the individual shot. its not round but will work.

[chillymywilly]

@homeinthewhiteoaks I made a slug with a similar method. Works good.

[SirMidnightBravehear]

enjoyed the video as alway ...good job i love all the knowledge ..PSn@ Ryan...love the hat man just got one like it a cpl weeks ago at the local surplus 100 percent wool is awesome

[BearGryllsway]

hay Dave how do you clean your stove i notice at the end of the video that the stove was pretty full. So can you let me know how you clean it

[wb5mgr]

It is amazing the utility of a small furnace that size in a limited fuel situation though. Heating something up with a torch takes a lot of gas compared to sticking it in a forge to prepare for braising or soldering...or forge welding for that matter.

[wb5mgr]

Cont. just have to be careful at going overboard, the thing is already heavy. I suggested adding a blower to allow him to sustain good hot burns for doing a lot of casting or softening up other metals. Would not be a true forge unless you line the bottom to prevent burn through

[Proxius1]

After you cut the spur, try putting the ball back into the mold the press down sharp edge left by the cutter.

I have never worked with ball molds. I just thought this might work.

[sethzky77]

One question, will the fumes hurt you?

[wb5mgr]

@homeinthewhiteoaks if you want to melt Al in that stove you can just clean the bottom out and prep it, then pour it with a 2-3" layer of refractory. Use a box form to pour the refractory 2-3" more up the sides. All the sustained heat is at the bottom. I cast Al I a steel 5gal bucket lined w/ refractory.

[falllupa]

I've got my property now. It's eh bute. Big ravine in behind, lots of wildlife. Thx for ur inspiration.

[kinghoju]

This is such a great video Dave! The knowledge here is simple and straightforward but many of us would have no idea how quite to do this without a video like this. So much of this simple and basic knowledge has been lost by those of us who grow increasingly more reliant on modern technology.

[wb5mgr]

You should use a knockout cutter to make a hole in the bottom of that stove and then weld some bolts inside hanging down so you can bolt on a cover when needed. With a 3" hole and a crank style blower you just turned your camp stove into a forge...wend some steel screen over the inside of the hole. Multipurpose much...

[wildernessoutfitters]

@wb5mgr LIKE!

[flamedrag18]

you could also make lead birdshot by slowly dripping molten lead into a bucket of water at head height, it won't be the best out there, but it'll do it's job just as good.

[wildernessoutfitters]

@flamedrag18 LIKE!

[Ebonforge]

@wildernessoutfitters If you pour through a screen above the water it will create a more uniform shot size.

[homeinthewhiteoaks]

@flamedrag18

It won't work the lead cools so fast it turns out looking like splattered candle wax. you need to drip the lead ( casting material ) into a hot antifreeze bath check out the littleton shot maker videos or webpage to explain how it is done at home. I have a friend with one and they are amazing...

[flamedrag18]

@homeinthewhiteoaks not if you drop it from height, that why I said drop the lead from head height and into the bucket. you can also go higher and the quality of the shot will increase the higher you go.

[homeinthewhiteoaks]

@flamedrag18

Most shot towers are at 70 to 100 feet! What you will get doing it that way is what casters call popcorn shot. because it looks like lead popcorn and it looses its energy really quickly if loaded and fired making it almost worthless. If it was easy dont you think all of us that cast our own bullets would be making our own shot also?

[runeski74]

@flamedrag18 good idea, does it splash back violently? I know if you put water in lead = bad explosion.

[mellowb1rd]

@runeski74 The water is just to cool it. Ideally, the lead is solid before it even hits the water. That way, it's perfectly round. They built tall towers especially for this purpose.

[xXxCatsnakexXx]

@flamedrag18 Might wanna line it with fire bricks/fire cement if you want it to last...

[jollyfe]

I guess this is a PSA for folks who might try this at home. Don't forget to wash your hands after handling lead and before you go around young kids. That is nasty stuff for children. Awesome video! I love casting.

[Hedgehobbit]

I found an old scuba weight belt with four 10 pound lead weights. Divers don't use those anymore so they should be cheap (mine was free). I'll be hard pressed to cast that much.

[lkjhz99]

@n1k3sh0k, the late great Ron Hood put together a small kit and a very small kit. A large trash bag has many uses, small fish hooks can catch more than fish, and don't worry about freezing to death without waking up. You will wake up and then you'll die. :)

[Christos1680]

So Dave... i was wondering since this about using materials you could find anywhere... what about copper wiring? You know, just stripping a small spare piece of wire off of a broken appliance or even some spare speaker wire

[STRKnives]

Hey Dave, be careful about keeping your vice grips close to a fire like that, I ruined mine back in 2010 when heat treating a knife in charcoal, the spring gave out after not much time and stretched, was useless after that, had to chuck them out.

[ibboat]

Great job. More kit to look for, love it!

[MrEhud77]

Dave what about casting alumnium?

[homeinthewhiteoaks]

@MrEhud77

Don't think that stove could take the 1200+ degree F heat it takes for aluminum to melt, Lead melts at about 620 F my casting furnace is set for about 680 to 700 for the initial melt.

[MrEhud77]

@homeinthewhiteoaks you're probably right about that stove but I was wondering about aluminum shot..it would be cheap and abundant

[alexpoz09]

Whats that now like 345,596,332 uses for the vise grip

[TruthBeTold2K]

Lol, he said "shoot a load for you when we're done"

[n1k3sh0x]

Hey dave iam going on a pant camping trip. if you dont know what that is, it is were you go camping with out a bag, sleeping bag, or anything that not's in your pockets of your pants. Any suggestions or possibly do a video on it? Thanks! (Keep up the Good Work!)

[dgr8zod]

Love your vids, I really do. Recently I bought 200 CCI 200 primers at the local firearms store. He stated that that was a lot of shooting, and I stated that was the one component I couldn't make.. What are you going to do when the shotshell primers are gone as far as the shotshells? Assume you can't find loaded rounds..

[iamdrglass]

are you using car battery lead???

[dgr8zod]

@iamdrglass  You can, but do your casting outside..

[swampassoutfitters]

did you know this show has the same theme song as the g3 hunting and fishing show.....

[nbandpa]

Kids lucky....., getting first hand experience doing this stuff with Dave. I'm jealous.

[tysy73]

@nbandpa Me too

[thecosmichippo]

One dislike .. they must have thought the thumb down was 'download'

[rogerpemberton]

@thecosmichippo Haters are everywhere.

[ridgetownpimp]

Lmao, shoot a load...

[macy725]

Do you have a video of how to turn an animal skin into clothing?

[WarblesOnALot]

@wildernessoutfitters G'day... Yeah, the "Don't sniff the Boiling-Lead Fumes" brigade are not wrong...; but you're making parts for a Death Machine, so why would it be Supersafe ? Yesterday I uploaded 'Proof The Australian Traditional Stone Axe Is Superior To Steel' I wore a Headcamera to make Firewood. It seemed a good test, and the Stone Axe wins ; several ways, actually ! I thought it's maybe up your alley ? U being into survivalism & mimimalism. Ciao !

[AMULDARRY]

wish i could use guns here ,its so much fun to play with.thx for showing have a good one brother.

alex

[JWnFL]

so you are the Dad we all wish we had when we were little!

GREAT!! JOB!!!

God Bless and God Love You and Yours!

Thanks for sharing!! May it come back to you 100's times over!

[MrB0TT]

Don't be temtped to use water to cool the mold before extracting the shot. If there is even a trace of water in the mold when molten lead is poured into it, it will pop and molten lead will go everywhere, including your skin.

[gusmpls]

Stay away from lead batteries they are full of lead oxide. How about a DIY shot tower.

[absoluegreen]

car battery lead is very toxic and dangerous.

[benjamindshoemaker]

great video and great idea about casting. One thing is that the battery lead is much more toxic than other lead. I would make sure to melt it down with a breeze blowing so you wouldn't breath the toxic fumes but It can very well be used. Also when you are casting be sure that it's not raining or going to rain because the molten lead will violently splatter all over the place when in contact with water. Again great vid and thanks for all the info you give us Dave

[Ronniegodfrey]

Dave,

Does the mold need to be pre heated?

Ronnie

[LVPG2010]

If you drop those balls from the mold into a bucket of cold water, you make the shot harder...if that is of interest.  Great vid Dave.

[camerl2009]

@LVPG2010 only ifyou use somthing like wheel weights witch is the same hardness air cooled as normal lead shot you can drop pure lead into water all you want but its not going to do nothing i cast a 2 alloy bullet and fuse them then drop it in water this will harden the base witch i cast out of wheel weights and the nose will stay soft and expand with pure lead

[LVPG2010]

@camerl2009 Thanks guy! I stand corrected. Most of my casting comes from wheel weight and thought pure lead might have similar cooling properties. That's what you get for assuming. All the best to you.

[BornRandy62]

I have a 2 gallon cast iron caldron melting pot that would work with larger pours. It didnt clean up enough to use for cooking.

[TheChornaya]

@BornRandy62 Brother, NEVER mix lead with anything you COOK in. Save those delicate neurons!

[BornRandy62]

@TheChornaya I had no intention of doing anything of the kind. I just mentioned that I had two (4 quart) cauldron/round bottom melting pots that are too far scaled to be used for cooking anymore. I saw his tiny melting pot to the side of the wood stove.

[AccuracyMarked]

cool...feeling bad about all those wheel weights i collected over the years riding my bike and turning them in for salvage dollars.

[arthurlafave]

sounds like that ground your walking on.. is just great and soggy.. haha.

Thanks for the AWESOME videos you guys!!

take care,

and i hope all is well!!

with love,

A.j

[survivalishtegame]

you gonna do another season of duel survival?

[SRSS2012]

Been using the same system for years on my 50 cal. muzzle loaders and 12 ga. buck loads. Excellent info and demo DC !!

My best,...JC

[ArtisanTony]

Very cool!

[oldgeekster1]

Actually "fry", but you know where I am coming from. ;-)

[cheeselyman]

can you make a video on shaving without a razor?

[nerblebun]

@cheeselyman Dave doesn't use a razor. He wraps a wet beaver pelt over the hair he wants to keep then sticks his head into a campfire. He trims the remaining hair with his Leatherman Multi-tool. It's known in the fashion world as the Canterbury Cut.

[oldgeekster1]

Dave, before you let Ryan escape the Yurt, need to get him to bake off some bear sign for you, Iris & the crew! -=dave=-

[LivingHistorySchool]

I have a small copper ladle that you can slip a green stick in that's even more compact, I'll post a picture of it on R and D site.

[PathfinderPotter]

OH NO NOT THE SQUISHY BOWL AGAIN!

[keystr0k]

It's outta my system now. Won't happen again.

[PathfinderPotter]

Nice job! let me know if you want any 1lb PB bars.

[higoten1993]

you can also melt 60/40 lead solder if you need to... solder is really useful, i think so put an okay amount.

[MrDeadpool25]

Awesome friend

[Survivalvideos1]

Awesome video Dave you are very inspiring.

[keystr0k]

Seriously Dave, you, your family and your entire crew there are top notch. Keep up the great work.

[thewertyline]

@keystr0k srsly don't do that

[tysy73]

@keystr0k Hope you heed the advice.

[ironlionkalo]

@tysy73 dont do what?