Mike Mentzer's Underground Seminar - Part X

[rectbosun]

in 93 on board a merchant ship for 4 months, i tried it,two sets a muscle 3 days a week. i went up in weight every workout for 4 months, when i got home, my familys jaws dropped! true story.

[bearlyboo]

This whole idea/concept that one must train less and less and they get bigger and stronger in order to keep getting bigger and stronger is rather revolutionary actually, as hardly anyone else addresses this particular issue. Most training routines/programs have one staying on the same volume and frequency of training indefinately.

[420pilz]

iv now trained this way for 9 weeks i used to train twice a day but now im going once every 8 days n my time in the gym is just over 10 min !

[sdegroot1]

@420pilz How is your progress on the HIT program? Do you notice a difference?

[tonymontana72c]

im folling this programe hardgainer-ectomorph.blogspot.­com

[DaOsman1]

Love this program !!!!!!!!

[themax316]

Why does it pause at 2minute mark! I'm dying with anticipation

[torque122]

I do this and still make great gains. Day 1 chest 8 days off Day2 Legs 8 days off Day3 Back/biceps 8-10 days off and then repeat. I went from 285 to 310 in bodyweight in three months as an advanced bodybuilder.

[theringmonster]

@torque122 Im a 330lb powerlifter over the age of 40 and have just started this type of training now im done with powerlifting, but train twice a week, is once a week too much time away from training to really gain? Im sure the bodyweight will increase as you have a week between sessions but its going to be training each bodypart once a month. Are you still gaining at this point mate?

[SeisanStnc]

@theringmonster Something to keep in mind is that there is some overlap in the consolidated routine. For example, workout one has squats; workout two has deadlifts. Both involve the legs. Having written that, there is an author named Pete Sisco whose articles you can find online. He takes Mentzer's ideas even further. He insists that he has people training ONCE every SIX WEEKS and making astronomical gains every workout! Twelve week lapse before the same muscle group is worked again...!

[robjturner]

This consolidated workout is genius.

[PencilsAreAwesome]

@robjturner Have you experimented with it to see if it actually produces results?

By which standard are you judging that it is genius?

Aesthetics -- or science?

[robjturner]

Just to boil all the excercises down to four, which if you think about it is all you really need. I've been doing these once a week workouts for about three months now and can feel the difference. Wish I'd discovered this years ago.

[TheRogueMonk]

what does he mean? can we do as mmany reps we want?

but to failure? i am confused just like

aur0rah.

[TheRogueMonk]

is he saying one should workout only one day a week? and is he talking about fullbody workout?

[papipumpit]

8-10 reps in one set per excersize. Handle a weigh you can only do 8reps. The next week pushout 9.Train to failure.Make the last rep count.Its the most important and is what sets on your muscle building switch. After week 3 you should be pushing out 10.The next week add weight again.REPEAT8-10.tillu can push out 10.add weight repeat.Good Luck

[diggle001]

He means that you have to select a weight heavy enough so that you will fail at the rep range that is suggested. If you end up selecting a weight that you can do more reps on than keep going until muscular failure. (failure meaning that you cannot perform another rep, and these reps have to be performed correctly, no cheating, swinging, bouncing, ect.) So really there is not a limit but it is suggested to perform the exercise within the rep range. Also, this program is great for all types

[piperulitops]

This program or routine training is the perfect for people ectomorphic? Or for all biotypes?

[Aur0rah]

so does this mean we can do as many reps we want? or ist here a limit?

[Tudeburger]

if you want to do 30 reps on the bench press then you obviously need more weight. it's not so much how much you "want" to do but what you "need" to do do build the muscle. Stay within a set rep range like Mike says. if you are trying to Bench 10 reps and can get 12 before you fail dont stop at 10 do 12 but you need more weight. try for ten next time with more weight if you fail at 8 reps fine. next time maybe you can reach 9 reps but when you can get more than 10 add more weight. good luck

[robjturner]

It's not the number of reps you do, but the INTENSITY of the set that's important. By INTENSITY we mean going to failure, and pushing beyond failure to put everything into those last few reps. The number of reps is just a guideline. Do you get it now?

[thomasmichael1]

@robjturner You seem to be one of the very few people who do 'get it'. Ive been arguing against the stupid training ideas that dominate the sport of bodybuilding on youtube and believe me there are many people with their heads in the sand. For me, you cannot put into words the positive influence of mentzer on training. Sadly common sense is just so uncommon in BB. Got to see Ray Mentzer in seminar in 85. Mike talked it but Ray did it!