This is idiotic and insulting reporting. Maybe a few percent of the total rioters in London AND ELSEWHERE in the copycat riots, were angry at the conditions of their society. How do you explain the crime, the injuries inflicted - the 5 people MURDERED for no legitimate reason. Richard Mannington Bowes was a 68 year old man trying to put out a fire, who was beat to death by rioters in the process. But hey Cenk, it's the government's fault, right? Conservatives were the real murderers? Sickening.
@Guile1989 People don't necessarily have to be consciously angry. Bad social conditions make people boil over whether they realise that's the reason or not. Minimal opportunities, minimal stake in society, a sense of resentment and fuck all to lose.
@ozmonster1989 I didn't know any of the 5 people killed in the riots. I am certain though, they all had a tremendous amount to lose, and this argument would be dangerous because, no liberal can with any real confidence say that what happened to these people was acceptable collateral damage.
@Guile1989 State the obvious why don't you. When did anyone say it was acceptable? I'm just saying it's the sort of ting that happens when chunks of the population have nothing going for them. Not defending it, not saying it was politically motivated, but 'society gets the criminals it deserves'.
@ozmonster1989 Society gets the criminals it deserves.. Wow. You seem to ignore the fact that 'society' is a collective body of people as well as institutions, and so you still sidetrack from the fact innocent people suffer from the actions of the mob. I wouldn't doubt that there are many sections of society that feel undervalued. A mob tends to consist of people from all walks of society though - it collects and increases through gathering bodies like a hurricane. It is mindless, not political.
@Guile1989 There was nothing political about the London riots. An initially peaceful demonstration in Tottenham was hijacked by thugs, mindless marauding idiots. If you truly feel it is excusable to behave in this way just because the government is poor, let me bring your attention to perhaps one of the greatest and most important essays in human history: Self Reliance, by Ralph Waldo Emerson. I strongly encourage you to read this.
@Guile1989 I've very clearly stated that I'm not defending it, and that it wasn't politically motivated, so I'm confused as to why you are now trying to tell me these things. And I'm not sidetracking the fact that innocent people suffer. I live in croydon, I'm fully aware of the impact the riots had on the innocent working class.
I'm aware there was zero political motivation behind the riots, we're clear on that. But, like most antisocial behaviour, it had its roots in socioeconomic disparity.
@ozmonster1989 You present some reasonable points, but I have to disagree with you that these riots were provoked by what you term the 'socioeconomic disparity' - I am sure the riots were not exclusive to people from poor backgrounds. We saw the so-called 'copycat riots' rise briefly across the UK. It seems people from a range of socioeconomic positions were committed to rioting and/or looting. I would not go out of my way to disagree with you further though.
@ozmonster1989 I wish we could both be in a position to better understand the full range of circumstances that cause such base, and barbaric behaviour. In my thoughts, I would say it is the lack of self-interest, the lack of care for the outcome. That still doesn't explain the blatant criminal opportunism for people to loot stores, or to vandalize the property of innocent people.
@Guile1989 ....no job opportunities, high homelessness, high crime, high prison populations, the growth of the far right wing, political demonstration (not inc. the riots under this banner) and general *social upheaval*.
@ozmonster1989 You are just listing all these problem terms and expecting me to believe that these circumstances are entirely responsible for the way people act. People have to be responsible for themselves - Ralph Waldo Emerson: Self-Reliance - read it. Socioeconomic disparity doesn't explain human nature, or human weakness. Is that basic sociology, or socialism? Did you ever consider that right wing politics has increased as a result of these happenings? Britain only ever has the choice
@ozmonster1989 of 2 moderate governments. Labour aren't left, and Conservative aren't right. They both almost meet each other in the middle, with petty differences. You are failing to acknowledge the core happenings of the riots - that people with no motivation or reason, attacked individuals, murdered individuals. The strain on people's minds is not directly proportional to the amount of money you have, we need to encourage traditional values, we have to remember and appreciate the constitution
@Guile1989 I don't feel like I do need to be in a better position to understand anything, unless someone has something to say that I haven't heard before. Socioeconomic disparity explains everything. The lack of self interest / care for outcome, criminal opportunism and looting, the barbarism. We already know the sort of things that happen when people get the shit end of a crashed economy, it's basic sociology...
Russell Brand is a liberal, middle class media whore who sympathises with young, spoilt immigrant retards! I normally like TYT but this fawning over Russell Brand was sickening!
I feel sorry for the uninsured people who lost their businesses, but I generally think we deserve this as a nation. Any country where the vast majority of people are simple and naive enough to support the mass immigration of negroes deserves to burn. The £300 million was an idiot tax.
Welcome to Multicultural Britain. Its only going to get worse.
Russell Brand is a faggot attention whore and people who actually view him as intelligent should not be allowed to operate computers.
This country maybe the world needs a massive change. I think the fuck up will be that governments for a long time have been should liberty while slowly taking it away. Maybe we start to believe in voluntarisum and liberty. We all want to be free, be our own masters, we just need to put petty differences behind us and see we all have a lot more in common then we think.
I've had to grow up among this wasteful generation in Britain, the young turks give testament to the yanks inability to comprehend any culture bar their own, and will always make phoney judgements based on their own preconceived assumptions.
@Gurn92 Its ridiculous you say that. Yes there are a wasteful generation in England but not everyone is the same.. The fact you make remarks about the Americans "preconceived assumptions" is also idiotic and wrong. Russell brand is entirely right that there was something to protest for. Indeed it was the wasteful generation that did the rioting and such but it got back at THE MAN. Russell was right, these "yanks" are right.. Oh and as a Brit.. I am right.
@gazzman2006 They weren't even protesting! They were looting! You are the idiot who cannot make simple observations, it wouldn't surprise me if you were one of them out there at the time looting. As a Brit you are so very wrong, you cannot justify this.
Young Turks are idiots, riots were inexcusable. Any generation with at least some ethics would not see other people's wrongdoing as an excuse to reap destruction on their neighbourhoods. As for them having some sort of 'political agenda' that's just ridiculous, these people smashing up shops are of Britain's chav variety, who don't give a damn about politics, they won't even be aware of bankers misdeeds, all they care about is their own personal gain and hedonism.
Ya we get it TYT, you hate bankers and any false equivilance you can set up vs bankers is awesome. Do you even know what sparked the London riots? A scumbag drug dealing murderer was killed by police in a shoot-out. I guess he was only a drug dealer because bankers ripped him off, and he was only shot for sport... perfectly understandable reasons to burn down a city and have 1000s of hooded youth terrorize people for nights on end.
Russel Brand has repeatedly show himself to be part of the radical anti-White marxist left and anarchists, and has multiple times, supported leftist Marxist Communist Antifa violence and oppression of people freedom of speech.
And btw, I'm British, and I COMPLETELY AGREE with what Cenk is saying. I've been saying it for years. He's got it spot on. It began with Thatcher and wasn't really revoked by money-seeking Blair. *If you treat people like they deserve nothing (no better than animals); DC and all his Tory cronies have absolutely no right to be surprised when they behave like animals*.
All the comments that are disagreeing with this vid can only manage to swear to validate their points and its embarrassing.
@SuGaRuSh14 Yawn, it's all Thatchers fault. She resigned as PM 21 years ago! The blame Thatcher excuse is getting very tiresome now, No I am not a rioter. How did you come to this idea? Because I swore? I'm not looking to judge these Turks by looking at their other vids, I'm commenting on their ill-informed view of the riots in this video. "There were people who participated in the riots who were angry for a real reason". How does she know? This assumption removes all credibility from the video
What do these fucking American Turks know about social problems in the UK? These rioters were nothing but uneducated, nihilistic little pricks who wanted to indulge in sheer criminality. How is burning local shopkeepers premises down being against so called injustices and bankers greed? You fucking morons, fuck off and comment on issues in your own country. Cunts!
@SuGaRuSh14 I'm guessing by your naive views that you are under the age of 21. I'd be amazed if you weren't. And by lying to me you know in your heart that I would have gained an even bigger edge in this debate.
@craigisaknob well at least i have the sense not to swear when i trying to making a point no ones ever going to take him seriously when he swears like that it's so unprofessional and who gives a shit it's text language u mong.
@rupetify You literally just swore? So its not ok to swear for comedic effect, but its ok to critcise somebody's ablilty to communicate seriously when you just called me a mong? Slight problem is this isn't a text and that isn't a language. Have a shitting great time being right-wing you pooey little chunder dragon.
ill tell you why they rioted because theres no detterent to crime in this pathetic country .you can murder someone and get sentenced to life then they let you out after a few years for being a good boy i know someone who was sentenced to 10 years yet was on the streets after 5 at least in america they have proper sentencing .i e life without parole
What a fucking joke. The riots started because the police shot a nigger and his "hommies" went on the rampage. It is a consequence of mass immigration.
The white people joined in because they saw an opportunity to get stuff for free. It is no more complicated that that.
@london160 The black person shot by the police, and the rioters, were British born and bred. Don't spread lies and pretend it was immigrants - immigrant business were among the victims.
You are quite something if you piss blood out of your ass and blame immigrants, whether they riot or not.
@london160 Spot on my friend. The Turkish idiots in this video, commenting on something they know nothing about, has got my blood boiling. As for Russell Brand, I would like to deal with him using a blow torch.
@s1collin Seriously mate, were YOU one of the rioters? You really sound like one. Cenk is ANYTHING BUT an idiot. If you'd watched most of the TYT videos you would know that. But you obviously haven't. TYT may not know all the ins and outs of British culture; but you clearly know nothing about anyone else's or you'd be able to express yourself in a more dignified and intelligent way.
I WANT TO SAY MORE AND WHO I BLAME FOR THIS AND MANY WOUD LOVE TO SAY IT THOSE PEOPLE THAT CAUSE THIS VIOLENCE IN RIOTS AND THE VIOLENCE I SAW IN SCHOOL AND THE GOVERMENT KNOWS FULL WELL WHOS TO BLAME BUT WONT
FUCKING HELL OPEN UR FUCKING EYES FIRST YOUTHS IN THIS COUNTRY ARE DANGEROUS FULL FUCKING STOP AND IM NOT TALKING ABOUT NORMAL TEENS THERE WERE MANY FUCKING TEENS THAT DID NOT JOIN THE RIOTS WHEN I WENT TO SCHOOL ALL TEENS WANTED TO DO WHAT I SAW WITH MY FUCKING EYES WHERE CAUSE TROUBLE AND HAVE FIGHTS AND BE IN GANGS SOME OF THE GIRLS WHERE WORSE THEN THE BOYS AND WOULD HAVE FIST FIGHTS WITH THE BOYS THIS IS WHAT TEENS ARE FUCKING ABOUT EVEN TEACHERS WERE ATTACKED A CHAIR WAS THROWN REALITY
As usual Brand's logic is flawed, boiled down to it's very essence all the looters wanted were TV's and leisure wear. Nothing more, nothing less. All these theories about Police, poverty blah blah, are just side issues for blaming someone else rather than take responsibility for ones self and community. Brand has always been an ill informed buffoon who likes to portray himself as some kind of intellectual 'guru'. it's a shame, he should know better.
Judgeing by the comments a good 80-90% disasgree with the young turks in this video.(which means there are some people out there with intelligence after all...)
the people involved in the riots are not the same as the people involved in the protests. the rioters would never be impacted by the likes of educational fee's as most of them are perfectly happy living off welfare. ive never been physically attacked or robbed by a banker, unlike our problem criminal class or yobo's and thugs whom participated in the riots, which was nothing more than an opportunistic crime spree. i agree that they are a social problem, but they deserve no defence.
I grew up in london. Here every kid goes to school (its a very strict law), everyone gets the chance to have a decent education for free. There are so many social clubs and events in London for young people, plenty of jobs to anyone who can be bothered to look for one. After someone is done with school they can go to university. The tuition has increased but any brit can get a student loan for it which they dont have to pay until they earn enough and then its over many years. Rioters were scum.
@payasoinfeliz Those rioters wanted to get some free stuff and when they realised the police weren't doing much to stop them it got worse. Houses were burnt down, cars blown up and people died because of the rioting. The excuse about the police shooting a man dead is bullshit. The police force here are made up of puppies compared to America and other European countries. As for student loans, if your family dont earn much you get like £3,000 a year which you dont have to pay back.
@TheLogicalKey i think if you cared to know, you wouldve already heard explanations. i will simply state the obvious: unlike crimes committed by individuals, riots dont just happen everyday. regarding riots, if you cannot stop them from happening by knowing what drives individuals, then what you know has no practical application--its useless.
Whatever happened with people just being criminals? Why do we always have to find an excuse? I never heard foreigners from developing contries who make a good living in the UK complain? Sh1t a lot of them are earning top dollar and they were much more disadvantaged coming from some former soviet contry or whatever. These people just committed a crime. End of story. There's no other explanation. Sure, they've got no jobs because they don't want to work. The UK is importing labour even today!
FUK THAT! That's BS! These people would have started the riots whether the crysis happened or not. As a matter of fact no one of the rioters mentioned the crysis. Furthermore, they cost the economy so much! They destroyed businesses and people DIED and lost jobs.
And stop with the bankers - they didn't steel money. They got a loan from the government and repaid it with interest within a few months! Where were the regulators when all this BS was happening with the banks prior to the collapse?
I like Brand usually, but I cannot agree with these comments. You cannot justify a smaller crime just because a bigger one is going on somewhere else and undetected, or undetered etc. Its like an educated way of saying, "yeah i hit her, but she hit my mate John the other day with a hammer, and got away with it". You still hit her mate....it really is no different, just n a grander scale. Its all wrong, no justification. If you are not happy, step up, non-violently and speak up.
@batmanjim1 How exactly is this different from the justice system? Retribution is pretty much the main point of punishing people through this system since, at least in the U.S., rehabilitation is not part of the equation at all. If this system fails, why is it so unreasonable to expect people to seek and carry out justice in other ways?
@Nayr747 first of all i didnt say anything about shooting kids, hence why i didnt reply to any of your comments, i was responding to Brand who is saying, in other words, its ok to smash up local shops and businesses as the government are involved in questionable wars abroad. What has that got to do with a family run corner shop set on fire? And the british justice system is hardly punishment lol community orders, drug rehab orders, £20 fines for assault and conditional discharge..lol
@batmanjim1 Don't know if you mixed up someone else's comment with mine, but I only made one comment and it didn't say anything about shooting kids. I was mainly talking from an American perspective because that's where I live. We don't do rehabilitation, and we generally have very severe penalties for crimes. The rich/white collar/celebrities/corporations seem to all have get out of jail free cards though, so I think there's a general feeling of a lack of justice for certain classes
The riots escalated because the police stood back. There was paralysis at the top or it was policy to let them get on with and we will pick them up on CCTV later. In the meantime the rioters texted each other saying no one is stopping us - we are getting away with murder - come and join us. If the police had stamped on it the first day then it wouldnt have got worse. But they are very sensitive about human rights nowadays and stood back and did nothing. And London burned.
Why? Hahahah... Why? They have no morals or care for there crime. To an extent I agree about the reasons Russel Brand came up with, but these kids don't... They don't care and they don't believe in those reasons, they are criminals and if you gave me a gun I'd shoot them. FUCK the youth of today.
@jessegullick don't pretend you understand the youth, you are completely out of touch and setting poor example. dont assume that we a single entity with a collective opinion. certain adults in this country have failed to be schooled with wisdom in their youth and that reflects in their kin. im a hard working kid with morals and only after reading, and watching documentaries do i understand exactly WHY i am furious with this corrupt system.
@raptoresque what part do you fail to understand? I disagree with Brand. You cannot justify smasing up local independant shops and looting them, because of an evil someone has done somewhere else, even if it is a more serious crime. Two wrongs dont make a right.
@ProperMuzik "who only understand one language violence. We have to beat the shit out of these little bastards." - Because fighting with fire always worked, right?
@TheSeanm102 I agree with your first statement, but the typical liberal cunts? Its that type of attitude that makes riots like this start in the first place.
@xAzZa1 yeah i suppose i got a bit carried away at the end of my comments but some of these commentaters wheither it's russell brand or those other idiots really piss me off
I don't support the riots one bit but I think they have shown something is wrong somewhere and we should try and work out what that is instead of just giving them meaningless labels. The Govenment is working hard to divide us into thinking of the people of the UK as them and us whether it be dole scroungers or public sector workers because if we are arguing amongst outselves we aren't concentrating on the real issues which is who caused this to happen, where has the money gone, etc!
@iownall12able Chavs? Because they weren't some posh hoorah henry's protesting over daddy having to pay an extra 6k a year for tuition they are scum? Those student protests were the biggest joke of all because 90% of them were rich suburban kids.
@Captainslow606 All I know is america kids are aware they are american and are taught to be proud of it. Hell in my secondary school in Hackney no one said they were British. There is no unifying culture so why would they care about each other.
The first time I EVER agreed with anything russel brand has to say (plus he looks just like this crazy koran basher on turkish TV)
The rioting was mainly caused by scum for the pure and simple reason that the people who REALLY have something to complain about are working hard everyday to pay their bills and put food on the table.
@Ebolahill88 Yeah and while they are working hard, bankers steal their incomes. And they do nothing about it. "Yeah sure, they live off me but that's fine. I gotta wake up early tomorrow cause I've gotta be at work at 8."
Who does anything about it? Protesters. They are the ones letting people in power know they have crossed the line, that they have taken enough. Of course, violence and crime are bad, but the protests should not be dismissed.
@enyvl there are protesters and there are chav scum who also live off us like the bankers. i agree the riots shouldnt be dismissed and anyone coulda seen it coming, but i dont want scum like that representing me, and we know the majority were dole scroungers because of the things they were taking, not food or books or summit useful, trainers and branded goods.
i want the working class to stand up to both the bankers and chavs and stop allowing the pair of them to leach off our backs
this is an abysmally one ignorant knee jerk reaction, desperately attempting to have some alternative view. Small shop owners had their businesses brought to their knees mindlessly and people were beaten up for no reason,having nothing to do with the banker situation. Even large ocmpanies like the sony factory had no link. Typical one dimensional reaction to something that didn't happen in America,and thus Americans feel they have the right to tell us how to run ourselves.Take alookat yourselves
Yes, the bankers may have got away scot-free, but how does that give rioters a reason to do what they did. People were beat up on the streets and left for dead on the streets.
They are not purposeful protests, these are NOT student protests. The student protests were rightful however these are NOT! The rioters are chavs, scum and I think they should be lined up in front of their families and shot (Oh yes, that reference)
Excuses excuses for third world behaviour. I am aware of the bankers plundering our economy but I do not feel the right to go out and mug or loot. Excuses excuses from the luvvy left yet again!
How can they even complain about lack of oppurtunity after putting their entire community out of business? The reason they can't get jobs is because they are lazy, stupid, imbeciles. I mean who destorys every place that can give you a job and then complains they can't get a job? The reason for these riots was greed. Simple, full stop end of story. Cunts.
I don't think you understand TYT, these 'Chavs' are just greedy benefit whores whom expect everything to be handed to them on a silver platter while contributing nothing to society. I am normally liberal but these people are scum and deserve VERY harsh punishment for their careless greed. They should be FORCED to compensate in full the damage they caused, if not by monetary means then by labour. What about the shop-keepers rights? How can they get a job now they burnt the city? Idiots...
To stop future riots from happening, the government needs to review how schools discipline kids in schools, particularly those who live in poorer areas of the country and have behaviour problems. If the problem is sorted out when they are young, then there may be some hope in stopping things like this from happening again. As for the people who committed the offences, it is a lost generation that we will have to put up with.
@bollwoven stupse, every1 like to sing the song about the bankers, but is it the banker's fault they get payed a % of their multimillion investment deals? or their employers. any1 of us got offered that job would jump at it with both hands
@bollwoven i mean, i'm not attacking you by the way, but correct me if im wrong but i thought investment banking was a job, you don't state what u expect to be payed when entering a company, u get payed what they said they'd pay. people look at them with such scorn, but i would fucking jump at a job like that. also no1 mentions the fact that these bankers work their tits off and don't have much of a life, much like doctors
The participants in the riots are not the demographic of future university students. The actual students stage traditionally peaceful and liberal protests and it is the unemployed and uneducated youth who start the violence.
In short, they're cunts. And cunts do cunt things. If you actually watch/read interviews with the rioters, they can't even fucking piece together a complete sentence let alone construct an argument in support of widespread vandalism.
The bankers were not bailed out because they wore suits, they were bailed out because it would have been more damaging for the economy, had they not been bailed out. Get a clue, Russell Brand....
@Porkchoppa76 and now that the IPCC and police themselves have confirmed that the gun Duggan was supposed to have used was not actually fired, and the ballistics that were uncovered from the crime scene in the squad car duggan was supposed to have shot at turned out to be a police issue bullet from a ricochet? What do you have to say about that?
At which time did Jews take Africans out of Africa? And if you are going to send them back Mr Christian, exactly what country will u send them to?
No they didn't they caused CRIMINAL damage costing millions. Burning, looting, assaulting the list goes on. What Bankers did was not criminal immoral perhaps not illegal . Logic like that fails and is a lame attempt to excuse criminality. Brand hasn't the foggiest idea how economics works.
@BioturdGreasyKebab brand is'nt saying what they did was ok he's just saying that all these huge bankers lost billions because they are the rich and powerful. the law is the law and basically what he is saying is that if any normal person had lost that much money for our country they'd probably have been killed. And with poverty and unemployment running rampant in our city of course people are going to react negatively to that. hes not excusing what they did hes just pointing out why they did it
I expect Russel will be donating a vast amount of his disposable income to a charity for poor kids in london then? No? Could it be that the people who read and write for the guardian are full of shit?
@SpinningRockMonkey why the fuck should he donate money? its not the putting in that is the problem, its the government sucking everything out thats the problem! Why would people respect a system that doesnt respect them back? Its bullshit. If i wasnt hard at work the days of the riots i would have been up there throwing petrol bombs at police stations and parliament. And im not a black youth, im a business owning proffessional white adult.
@DanReborn Yeah, except they weren't smashing up police buildings and parliament, they were smashing up businesses and peoples houses, y'know, the people like yourself that pay tax which is the reason the government has money to pay for things like the NHS, job seekers, housing benefit and so on.
@DanReborn As for Russel Brand and his money, he can do what he likes with it, but given that he recons that he has a bit of an idea about problems that some of the rioters he is actually in a good position to use some of money to maybe start an educational charity or a youth center or something, then he could use his fame to promote it, then people like you or I might donate to it. It's what people used to do. I'd rather give money to that than the fucking government.
@SpinningRockMonkey The problem with that attitude is that funding becomes sporadic and based on the whims of some rich donors. Thankfully, the government funds programs that are not necessarily seen as glamorous but which are needed and the people might say, oh well, I'm not giving to cause x since I don't like it..
That's what socialism results in - CORRUPTION. EVERY time socialism strikes, the political elite cream off the top. Hitler did it. Stalin did it. Castro did it. They live the life of riley. Socialism for everyone apart from them. People like you are the reason socialists get into power, people who shouldn't be allowed to vote due to mental retardation. The type of person who thinks communism is still a good idea. lol at you you fucking mongol.
@Foxy2306 Have you actually read the article? cos it's really more focused on the kids rioting than the banks, that was just a point he made later in the article. And to be honest it's really not all that relevant to the riots. Anyway my point was more that these two yanks really have no clue what they;re talking about. And by the way mate, learn to have an adult conversation without calling people prats and dickheads, nice one.
Er .. . . . hello NUMPTY!!!! The banks WERE part- or fully nationalised, RBS being an example.
Do not blame the banks for all the current problems. Look at the Euro crisis, for example. You honestly think that's banks' fault? lol It was due to bailing out the PUBLIC SECTOR of various basket case countries like Greece, places where they have a sense of self-entitlement, much like what Britain is becoming. Socialism is just a complete fail. What we need is capitalism.
@Lightf00t1 what bank was nationalised pre 2008? know what you talk about before you start throwing numpty insults about huh? The bailing out of Greece etc was a direct result of our treaty obligations as an EU founding member. The treaty, in case u didn't know was formed under a Tory government in the 1970s & ratified in 1992 (Maastricht) again, by a Tory government. I'm no Labour supporter, but stop being a Sheeple & stop voting in Right Wing governments. They only care about themselves.
I don't know. What I do know is that LAbour was in power, the race-agitating party, the party that fools people into thinking they are for the working class, the party that divides in order to rule, the party of spending beyond the country's means. They bailed out the banks. Fact. Let's see what your response is to that. Oh but . . . wah wah the Tories, the Tories. No buts. No excuses. LAbour are to blame. Fact. Do you understand me sweetheart?
@Lightf00t1 I guess maybe u might be a little too young to remember the 1980s, when actions taken by a Conservative government regarding the financial markets, which was to de-regulate & pursue the strategy of Monetarism & Privatisation that led to the housing bubble, then the pensions bubble & finally the financial services bubble to burst. A Tory govt wouldn't have bailed out RBS, they'd have privatised them with healthy donations from 1 of their sponsors, paid for in increased VAT.
I'd like to point out that it was left-wing governments who bailed out the banks. Labour, for example, under Gordon Brown. Those on the Right do not agree with this. If something fails, it fails.
@Lightf00t1 New Labour was not a Left Wing government. Blair was quite clearly a Centre Left politician in parliament, but New Labour was Right of Centre in it's delivery. Blair himself said he ignored Clause 4 of the founding Labour tenets (what makes a Labour party Labour - go look it up). Brown bailing out the banks was part nationalisation, something a labour govt should do anyway in full for it to work. Combining Laissez Faire markets with Socialist policies was doomed from the start.
@BioturdGreasyKebab I guess the 43% of rioters that were white and charged for rioting must have been "niggers" too, as you put it, especially when the niggers were only 3% more in number. I guess you also missed the white public school educated millionaires's daughter Laura Johnson that looted £6K worth of stuff on her own and drove around london in her Smart car bagging as much as she could, despite living in a different county. Justify that idiot.
I love Russell Brand but he got this one all wrong.. and so have these two who clearly have absolutely no insight into British culture. The riots were absolutely as senseless and mindless as they were made out to be
England has tons of stores, but no money to buy anything.
29Essan 14 hours ago
This is idiotic and insulting reporting. Maybe a few percent of the total rioters in London AND ELSEWHERE in the copycat riots, were angry at the conditions of their society. How do you explain the crime, the injuries inflicted - the 5 people MURDERED for no legitimate reason. Richard Mannington Bowes was a 68 year old man trying to put out a fire, who was beat to death by rioters in the process. But hey Cenk, it's the government's fault, right? Conservatives were the real murderers? Sickening.
Guile1989 2 days ago
@Guile1989 People don't necessarily have to be consciously angry. Bad social conditions make people boil over whether they realise that's the reason or not. Minimal opportunities, minimal stake in society, a sense of resentment and fuck all to lose.
ozmonster1989 1 day ago
@ozmonster1989 I didn't know any of the 5 people killed in the riots. I am certain though, they all had a tremendous amount to lose, and this argument would be dangerous because, no liberal can with any real confidence say that what happened to these people was acceptable collateral damage.
Guile1989 1 day ago
@Guile1989 State the obvious why don't you. When did anyone say it was acceptable? I'm just saying it's the sort of ting that happens when chunks of the population have nothing going for them. Not defending it, not saying it was politically motivated, but 'society gets the criminals it deserves'.
ozmonster1989 1 day ago
@ozmonster1989 Society gets the criminals it deserves.. Wow. You seem to ignore the fact that 'society' is a collective body of people as well as institutions, and so you still sidetrack from the fact innocent people suffer from the actions of the mob. I wouldn't doubt that there are many sections of society that feel undervalued. A mob tends to consist of people from all walks of society though - it collects and increases through gathering bodies like a hurricane. It is mindless, not political.
Guile1989 1 day ago
@Guile1989 There was nothing political about the London riots. An initially peaceful demonstration in Tottenham was hijacked by thugs, mindless marauding idiots. If you truly feel it is excusable to behave in this way just because the government is poor, let me bring your attention to perhaps one of the greatest and most important essays in human history: Self Reliance, by Ralph Waldo Emerson. I strongly encourage you to read this.
Guile1989 1 day ago
@Guile1989 I've very clearly stated that I'm not defending it, and that it wasn't politically motivated, so I'm confused as to why you are now trying to tell me these things. And I'm not sidetracking the fact that innocent people suffer. I live in croydon, I'm fully aware of the impact the riots had on the innocent working class.
I'm aware there was zero political motivation behind the riots, we're clear on that. But, like most antisocial behaviour, it had its roots in socioeconomic disparity.
ozmonster1989 18 hours ago
@ozmonster1989 You present some reasonable points, but I have to disagree with you that these riots were provoked by what you term the 'socioeconomic disparity' - I am sure the riots were not exclusive to people from poor backgrounds. We saw the so-called 'copycat riots' rise briefly across the UK. It seems people from a range of socioeconomic positions were committed to rioting and/or looting. I would not go out of my way to disagree with you further though.
Guile1989 17 hours ago
@ozmonster1989 I wish we could both be in a position to better understand the full range of circumstances that cause such base, and barbaric behaviour. In my thoughts, I would say it is the lack of self-interest, the lack of care for the outcome. That still doesn't explain the blatant criminal opportunism for people to loot stores, or to vandalize the property of innocent people.
Guile1989 17 hours ago
@Guile1989 ....no job opportunities, high homelessness, high crime, high prison populations, the growth of the far right wing, political demonstration (not inc. the riots under this banner) and general *social upheaval*.
ozmonster1989 9 hours ago
@ozmonster1989 You are just listing all these problem terms and expecting me to believe that these circumstances are entirely responsible for the way people act. People have to be responsible for themselves - Ralph Waldo Emerson: Self-Reliance - read it. Socioeconomic disparity doesn't explain human nature, or human weakness. Is that basic sociology, or socialism? Did you ever consider that right wing politics has increased as a result of these happenings? Britain only ever has the choice
Guile1989 3 hours ago
@ozmonster1989 of 2 moderate governments. Labour aren't left, and Conservative aren't right. They both almost meet each other in the middle, with petty differences. You are failing to acknowledge the core happenings of the riots - that people with no motivation or reason, attacked individuals, murdered individuals. The strain on people's minds is not directly proportional to the amount of money you have, we need to encourage traditional values, we have to remember and appreciate the constitution
Guile1989 3 hours ago
@Guile1989 I don't feel like I do need to be in a better position to understand anything, unless someone has something to say that I haven't heard before. Socioeconomic disparity explains everything. The lack of self interest / care for outcome, criminal opportunism and looting, the barbarism. We already know the sort of things that happen when people get the shit end of a crashed economy, it's basic sociology...
ozmonster1989 9 hours ago
Russell Brand is a liberal, middle class media whore who sympathises with young, spoilt immigrant retards! I normally like TYT but this fawning over Russell Brand was sickening!
stpb123ify 5 days ago
These comments make no sense, go fuck an octopus.
SOUPRUN01 5 days ago
@SOUPRUN01 Agreed, but I'm not big on tentacle porn.
Iluvtmnt 4 days ago
Ah, so it was all the bankers fault again. Now I get it.
JasonPMartin 5 days ago
BRILLIANT
jawgey 6 days ago
I feel sorry for the uninsured people who lost their businesses, but I generally think we deserve this as a nation. Any country where the vast majority of people are simple and naive enough to support the mass immigration of negroes deserves to burn. The £300 million was an idiot tax.
Welcome to Multicultural Britain. Its only going to get worse.
Russell Brand is a faggot attention whore and people who actually view him as intelligent should not be allowed to operate computers.
london160 6 days ago
Thanks for the misleading thumbnail.....Dickheads.
doublejab100 1 week ago
This country maybe the world needs a massive change. I think the fuck up will be that governments for a long time have been should liberty while slowly taking it away. Maybe we start to believe in voluntarisum and liberty. We all want to be free, be our own masters, we just need to put petty differences behind us and see we all have a lot more in common then we think.
jamesregmorris 1 week ago
I've had to grow up among this wasteful generation in Britain, the young turks give testament to the yanks inability to comprehend any culture bar their own, and will always make phoney judgements based on their own preconceived assumptions.
Gurn92 1 week ago
@Gurn92 Its ridiculous you say that. Yes there are a wasteful generation in England but not everyone is the same.. The fact you make remarks about the Americans "preconceived assumptions" is also idiotic and wrong. Russell brand is entirely right that there was something to protest for. Indeed it was the wasteful generation that did the rioting and such but it got back at THE MAN. Russell was right, these "yanks" are right.. Oh and as a Brit.. I am right.
gazzman2006 1 week ago
@gazzman2006 They weren't even protesting! They were looting! You are the idiot who cannot make simple observations, it wouldn't surprise me if you were one of them out there at the time looting. As a Brit you are so very wrong, you cannot justify this.
Gurn92 1 week ago
Young Turks are idiots, riots were inexcusable. Any generation with at least some ethics would not see other people's wrongdoing as an excuse to reap destruction on their neighbourhoods. As for them having some sort of 'political agenda' that's just ridiculous, these people smashing up shops are of Britain's chav variety, who don't give a damn about politics, they won't even be aware of bankers misdeeds, all they care about is their own personal gain and hedonism.
Gurn92 1 week ago
Ya we get it TYT, you hate bankers and any false equivilance you can set up vs bankers is awesome. Do you even know what sparked the London riots? A scumbag drug dealing murderer was killed by police in a shoot-out. I guess he was only a drug dealer because bankers ripped him off, and he was only shot for sport... perfectly understandable reasons to burn down a city and have 1000s of hooded youth terrorize people for nights on end.
Relbl 1 week ago
@Relbl Don't correct people incorrectly, it wasn't a "shoot-out".
pinkflexim 3 days ago
The day theYoung Turks becomes a comment pending approval channel... is the day you know they sold out.
badinfluence1985 1 week ago
it's a new girl everytime i see the young turks.
munkdo4 1 week ago
I don't know what's funnier (and stupider), Russell's views on the riots, these people fawning all over him or the totally random subtitles.
It's a close call but my vote goes to the subtitles.
MGH74 1 week ago
Is there anything Russell Brand WON'T nail?!
simonmaxwellstewart 1 week ago
Oh look, a blind and loyal follower of this degenerate.
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celticanglopressss 1 week ago
Russel Brand has repeatedly show himself to be part of the radical anti-White marxist left and anarchists, and has multiple times, supported leftist Marxist Communist Antifa violence and oppression of people freedom of speech.
celticanglopressss 1 week ago
@celticanglopressss You're a disgrace to troll-kind.
craigisaknob 1 week ago
Clicked because I thought it was Russel Brand talking, and instead it was you two retards...
sonicoliver 2 weeks ago 11
@sonicoliver how pathetic. so you resort to insults when things don't go your way? you must be a child.
1Manny93 1 week ago
@sonicoliver you must be the retard if you can't read a fucking title STATING that it was in the guardian.
Sheaiskl 1 week ago
Loved this video! So right!
LalalaDanie 2 weeks ago
And btw, I'm British, and I COMPLETELY AGREE with what Cenk is saying. I've been saying it for years. He's got it spot on. It began with Thatcher and wasn't really revoked by money-seeking Blair. *If you treat people like they deserve nothing (no better than animals); DC and all his Tory cronies have absolutely no right to be surprised when they behave like animals*.
All the comments that are disagreeing with this vid can only manage to swear to validate their points and its embarrassing.
SuGaRuSh14 2 weeks ago
@SuGaRuSh14 Yawn, it's all Thatchers fault. She resigned as PM 21 years ago! The blame Thatcher excuse is getting very tiresome now, No I am not a rioter. How did you come to this idea? Because I swore? I'm not looking to judge these Turks by looking at their other vids, I'm commenting on their ill-informed view of the riots in this video. "There were people who participated in the riots who were angry for a real reason". How does she know? This assumption removes all credibility from the video
s1collin 2 weeks ago
What do these fucking American Turks know about social problems in the UK? These rioters were nothing but uneducated, nihilistic little pricks who wanted to indulge in sheer criminality. How is burning local shopkeepers premises down being against so called injustices and bankers greed? You fucking morons, fuck off and comment on issues in your own country. Cunts!
s1collin 2 weeks ago
@s1collin Your inability to express yourself without swearing and aggression demeans your otherwise valid points.
SuGaRuSh14 2 weeks ago
@SuGaRuSh14 I'm guessing by your naive views that you are under the age of 21. I'd be amazed if you weren't. And by lying to me you know in your heart that I would have gained an even bigger edge in this debate.
s1collin 2 weeks ago
the young fucking turks
again
fell for the fucking prick roll
i'm getting tired of having to flag shit on youtube
IAINoodle 2 weeks ago
please pleas don't call russel Brand bright lmao he's a left wing prat with no brain
rupetify 2 weeks ago
@rupetify Any individual who uses "lmao" instead of a full stop should not be questioning another's intelligence.
craigisaknob 2 weeks ago
@craigisaknob well at least i have the sense not to swear when i trying to making a point no ones ever going to take him seriously when he swears like that it's so unprofessional and who gives a shit it's text language u mong.
rupetify 2 weeks ago
@rupetify You literally just swore? So its not ok to swear for comedic effect, but its ok to critcise somebody's ablilty to communicate seriously when you just called me a mong? Slight problem is this isn't a text and that isn't a language. Have a shitting great time being right-wing you pooey little chunder dragon.
craigisaknob 2 weeks ago
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Well fuckin said Russell Brand, good on you.
And nice chat show.
hatloverxxx 2 weeks ago
This channel always has misleading thumbnails and titles just so you watch their pretend talk show
phurt89 2 weeks ago
ill tell you why they rioted because theres no detterent to crime in this pathetic country .you can murder someone and get sentenced to life then they let you out after a few years for being a good boy i know someone who was sentenced to 10 years yet was on the streets after 5 at least in america they have proper sentencing .i e life without parole
vespasianlegx11 2 weeks ago
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Wow,,,,, a couple of sand niggers defending their nigger/ sand nigger cousins burning down London.... What a sick jew controlled world we live in.
phoenix30223 3 weeks ago
@phoenix30223 hahahahahah this is amongst the top 5 youtube comments I have ever read! Classic!
TheSmjord 3 weeks ago
some white people joined not that much whites
dont believe in news and there stats cause is all fabrications mainly it was the people u mentioned london160
KILLWRONGDOERS 3 weeks ago
london160 i agree with you your right u took it out of my mouth
KILLWRONGDOERS 3 weeks ago
What a fucking joke. The riots started because the police shot a nigger and his "hommies" went on the rampage. It is a consequence of mass immigration.
The white people joined in because they saw an opportunity to get stuff for free. It is no more complicated that that.
london160 3 weeks ago
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@london160 The black person shot by the police, and the rioters, were British born and bred. Don't spread lies and pretend it was immigrants - immigrant business were among the victims.
You are quite something if you piss blood out of your ass and blame immigrants, whether they riot or not.
hatloverxxx 2 weeks ago
@london160 Spot on my friend. The Turkish idiots in this video, commenting on something they know nothing about, has got my blood boiling. As for Russell Brand, I would like to deal with him using a blow torch.
s1collin 2 weeks ago
@s1collin Seriously mate, were YOU one of the rioters? You really sound like one. Cenk is ANYTHING BUT an idiot. If you'd watched most of the TYT videos you would know that. But you obviously haven't. TYT may not know all the ins and outs of British culture; but you clearly know nothing about anyone else's or you'd be able to express yourself in a more dignified and intelligent way.
SuGaRuSh14 2 weeks ago
I WANT TO SAY MORE AND WHO I BLAME FOR THIS AND MANY WOUD LOVE TO SAY IT THOSE PEOPLE THAT CAUSE THIS VIOLENCE IN RIOTS AND THE VIOLENCE I SAW IN SCHOOL AND THE GOVERMENT KNOWS FULL WELL WHOS TO BLAME BUT WONT
KILLWRONGDOERS 3 weeks ago
FUCKING HELL OPEN UR FUCKING EYES FIRST YOUTHS IN THIS COUNTRY ARE DANGEROUS FULL FUCKING STOP AND IM NOT TALKING ABOUT NORMAL TEENS THERE WERE MANY FUCKING TEENS THAT DID NOT JOIN THE RIOTS WHEN I WENT TO SCHOOL ALL TEENS WANTED TO DO WHAT I SAW WITH MY FUCKING EYES WHERE CAUSE TROUBLE AND HAVE FIGHTS AND BE IN GANGS SOME OF THE GIRLS WHERE WORSE THEN THE BOYS AND WOULD HAVE FIST FIGHTS WITH THE BOYS THIS IS WHAT TEENS ARE FUCKING ABOUT EVEN TEACHERS WERE ATTACKED A CHAIR WAS THROWN REALITY
KILLWRONGDOERS 3 weeks ago
i agree with russell brand for once
Niqbal87 3 weeks ago
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@void110 you really didn't read my post did you? please go back, read and fuck off before spouting your opinion.
RoofLight00 3 weeks ago
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@void110 @void110 @void110 you really didn't read my post did you? please go back, read and fuck off before spouting your opinion.
RoofLight00 3 weeks ago
@void110 @void110 you really didn't read my post did you? please go back, read and fuck off before spouting your opinion.
RoofLight00 3 weeks ago
When we build buildings we ask experts how to make them sturdy and safe.
When we are sick and want to get better we ask experts how we can get better.
When we are accused of a crime we ask experts how we can prove our innocence.
When we seek to go to the moon we ask experts how to build our rockets.
When we raise our children we tell the experts not to tell us how to raise our children and fuck off.
Phi1618033 3 weeks ago 11
As usual Brand's logic is flawed, boiled down to it's very essence all the looters wanted were TV's and leisure wear. Nothing more, nothing less. All these theories about Police, poverty blah blah, are just side issues for blaming someone else rather than take responsibility for ones self and community. Brand has always been an ill informed buffoon who likes to portray himself as some kind of intellectual 'guru'. it's a shame, he should know better.
RoofLight00 3 weeks ago
Judgeing by the comments a good 80-90% disasgree with the young turks in this video.(which means there are some people out there with intelligence after all...)
Stevo6452 3 weeks ago
the people involved in the riots are not the same as the people involved in the protests. the rioters would never be impacted by the likes of educational fee's as most of them are perfectly happy living off welfare. ive never been physically attacked or robbed by a banker, unlike our problem criminal class or yobo's and thugs whom participated in the riots, which was nothing more than an opportunistic crime spree. i agree that they are a social problem, but they deserve no defence.
mintyvision 4 weeks ago
I really enjoy this show. A big thank you from Porto (Portugal).
aryfcunha 4 weeks ago
she looks like a fucking eagle with her hair tied back like that lol
northwestlondon1 4 weeks ago
I grew up in london. Here every kid goes to school (its a very strict law), everyone gets the chance to have a decent education for free. There are so many social clubs and events in London for young people, plenty of jobs to anyone who can be bothered to look for one. After someone is done with school they can go to university. The tuition has increased but any brit can get a student loan for it which they dont have to pay until they earn enough and then its over many years. Rioters were scum.
TheLogicalKey 1 month ago
@TheLogicalKey youre a simpleton
payasoinfeliz 4 weeks ago
@payasoinfeliz Those rioters wanted to get some free stuff and when they realised the police weren't doing much to stop them it got worse. Houses were burnt down, cars blown up and people died because of the rioting. The excuse about the police shooting a man dead is bullshit. The police force here are made up of puppies compared to America and other European countries. As for student loans, if your family dont earn much you get like £3,000 a year which you dont have to pay back.
TheLogicalKey 4 weeks ago
@TheLogicalKey individuals commit crime all the time, individuals steal all the time--riots do not. riots are more complex than you imagine.
payasoinfeliz 4 weeks ago
@payasoinfeliz Then why don't you explain it to me a little bit?
TheLogicalKey 4 weeks ago
@TheLogicalKey i think if you cared to know, you wouldve already heard explanations. i will simply state the obvious: unlike crimes committed by individuals, riots dont just happen everyday. regarding riots, if you cannot stop them from happening by knowing what drives individuals, then what you know has no practical application--its useless.
payasoinfeliz 4 weeks ago
Whatever happened with people just being criminals? Why do we always have to find an excuse? I never heard foreigners from developing contries who make a good living in the UK complain? Sh1t a lot of them are earning top dollar and they were much more disadvantaged coming from some former soviet contry or whatever. These people just committed a crime. End of story. There's no other explanation. Sure, they've got no jobs because they don't want to work. The UK is importing labour even today!
kotapaka 1 month ago
FUK THAT! That's BS! These people would have started the riots whether the crysis happened or not. As a matter of fact no one of the rioters mentioned the crysis. Furthermore, they cost the economy so much! They destroyed businesses and people DIED and lost jobs.
And stop with the bankers - they didn't steel money. They got a loan from the government and repaid it with interest within a few months! Where were the regulators when all this BS was happening with the banks prior to the collapse?
kotapaka 1 month ago
I like Brand usually, but I cannot agree with these comments. You cannot justify a smaller crime just because a bigger one is going on somewhere else and undetected, or undetered etc. Its like an educated way of saying, "yeah i hit her, but she hit my mate John the other day with a hammer, and got away with it". You still hit her mate....it really is no different, just n a grander scale. Its all wrong, no justification. If you are not happy, step up, non-violently and speak up.
batmanjim1 1 month ago
@batmanjim1 How exactly is this different from the justice system? Retribution is pretty much the main point of punishing people through this system since, at least in the U.S., rehabilitation is not part of the equation at all. If this system fails, why is it so unreasonable to expect people to seek and carry out justice in other ways?
Nayr747 1 month ago
@Nayr747 first of all i didnt say anything about shooting kids, hence why i didnt reply to any of your comments, i was responding to Brand who is saying, in other words, its ok to smash up local shops and businesses as the government are involved in questionable wars abroad. What has that got to do with a family run corner shop set on fire? And the british justice system is hardly punishment lol community orders, drug rehab orders, £20 fines for assault and conditional discharge..lol
batmanjim1 1 month ago
@batmanjim1 Don't know if you mixed up someone else's comment with mine, but I only made one comment and it didn't say anything about shooting kids. I was mainly talking from an American perspective because that's where I live. We don't do rehabilitation, and we generally have very severe penalties for crimes. The rich/white collar/celebrities/corporations seem to all have get out of jail free cards though, so I think there's a general feeling of a lack of justice for certain classes
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broadshoulder 1 month ago
The riots escalated because the police stood back. There was paralysis at the top or it was policy to let them get on with and we will pick them up on CCTV later. In the meantime the rioters texted each other saying no one is stopping us - we are getting away with murder - come and join us. If the police had stamped on it the first day then it wouldnt have got worse. But they are very sensitive about human rights nowadays and stood back and did nothing. And London burned.
broadshoulder 1 month ago
the second quote is awesome!!
chillytoes1 1 month ago
The subtitles are so fucked, it's hillarious.
TrueBlue9LIVES 1 month ago
Talk about destroying the communities. Like when the center of London was turned into a huge shopping mall?
PktMma 1 month ago
Why? Hahahah... Why? They have no morals or care for there crime. To an extent I agree about the reasons Russel Brand came up with, but these kids don't... They don't care and they don't believe in those reasons, they are criminals and if you gave me a gun I'd shoot them. FUCK the youth of today.
jessegullick 1 month ago
@jessegullick don't pretend you understand the youth, you are completely out of touch and setting poor example. dont assume that we a single entity with a collective opinion. certain adults in this country have failed to be schooled with wisdom in their youth and that reflects in their kin. im a hard working kid with morals and only after reading, and watching documentaries do i understand exactly WHY i am furious with this corrupt system.
JFKs final speech sums it up. google it.
rinseoutdrycleaner 1 month ago
@jessegullick you'd shoot kids? are you mentally ill? cause that sounds pretty mental
raptoresque 1 month ago
@raptoresque what should be the age of criminal responsibility?
batmanjim1 1 month ago
@batmanjim1 eh?
raptoresque 1 month ago
@raptoresque what part do you fail to understand? I disagree with Brand. You cannot justify smasing up local independant shops and looting them, because of an evil someone has done somewhere else, even if it is a more serious crime. Two wrongs dont make a right.
batmanjim1 1 month ago
@batmanjim1 im not sure what you think youre arguing with here... i said shooting kids is wrong and you have some sort of argument with that?
raptoresque 1 month ago
@ProperMuzik "who only understand one language violence. We have to beat the shit out of these little bastards." - Because fighting with fire always worked, right?
iLIKEtotallyL0VEit 1 month ago
I just read a few of Russell's articles. I was surprised by how strong his prose is.
bla87 1 month ago
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crsbt 1 month ago
SHIT I JUST SUBSCRIBED? NOW YOU LIKE MY COMMENT!
MoroccanAnwar 1 month ago
99% of these rioters bunch of scumbags these pc fuckers have no fucking idea what they are talking about typical liberal cunts
TheSeanm102 1 month ago
@TheSeanm102 I agree with your first statement, but the typical liberal cunts? Its that type of attitude that makes riots like this start in the first place.
xAzZa1 1 month ago
@xAzZa1 yeah i suppose i got a bit carried away at the end of my comments but some of these commentaters wheither it's russell brand or those other idiots really piss me off
TheSeanm102 1 month ago
I don't support the riots one bit but I think they have shown something is wrong somewhere and we should try and work out what that is instead of just giving them meaningless labels. The Govenment is working hard to divide us into thinking of the people of the UK as them and us whether it be dole scroungers or public sector workers because if we are arguing amongst outselves we aren't concentrating on the real issues which is who caused this to happen, where has the money gone, etc!
jsdh1978 1 month ago
ANA YOU ARE SO HOT....PLEASE PEE ALL OVER ME!
lavaxxx2001 1 month ago
@iownall12able Chavs? Because they weren't some posh hoorah henry's protesting over daddy having to pay an extra 6k a year for tuition they are scum? Those student protests were the biggest joke of all because 90% of them were rich suburban kids.
cadnewham 1 month ago
@Captainslow606 All I know is america kids are aware they are american and are taught to be proud of it. Hell in my secondary school in Hackney no one said they were British. There is no unifying culture so why would they care about each other.
cadnewham 1 month ago
The first time I EVER agreed with anything russel brand has to say (plus he looks just like this crazy koran basher on turkish TV)
The rioting was mainly caused by scum for the pure and simple reason that the people who REALLY have something to complain about are working hard everyday to pay their bills and put food on the table.
Ebolahill88 1 month ago
@Ebolahill88 Yeah and while they are working hard, bankers steal their incomes. And they do nothing about it. "Yeah sure, they live off me but that's fine. I gotta wake up early tomorrow cause I've gotta be at work at 8."
Who does anything about it? Protesters. They are the ones letting people in power know they have crossed the line, that they have taken enough. Of course, violence and crime are bad, but the protests should not be dismissed.
enyvl 1 month ago
@enyvl there are protesters and there are chav scum who also live off us like the bankers. i agree the riots shouldnt be dismissed and anyone coulda seen it coming, but i dont want scum like that representing me, and we know the majority were dole scroungers because of the things they were taking, not food or books or summit useful, trainers and branded goods.
i want the working class to stand up to both the bankers and chavs and stop allowing the pair of them to leach off our backs
Ebolahill88 1 month ago
That's right everyone. Bankers are equal to rioters in terms of morality.
CambridgeHeights 1 month ago
this is an abysmally one ignorant knee jerk reaction, desperately attempting to have some alternative view. Small shop owners had their businesses brought to their knees mindlessly and people were beaten up for no reason,having nothing to do with the banker situation. Even large ocmpanies like the sony factory had no link. Typical one dimensional reaction to something that didn't happen in America,and thus Americans feel they have the right to tell us how to run ourselves.Take alookat yourselves
Captainslow606 1 month ago
People who rioted in London are Scum end of this just becasue your liberal cenk+Anna does'nt mean you have to support every Protest
Segbot92 1 month ago
Congratulations on making something quite funny entirely distressing. Stop shouting about everything, bloody yanks!
tomstaples101 1 month ago
Yes, the bankers may have got away scot-free, but how does that give rioters a reason to do what they did. People were beat up on the streets and left for dead on the streets.
TheLazyJT 1 month ago
They are not purposeful protests, these are NOT student protests. The student protests were rightful however these are NOT! The rioters are chavs, scum and I think they should be lined up in front of their families and shot (Oh yes, that reference)
iownall12able 1 month ago
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you want to know why these riots took place? here's your answer:
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Amernee 1 month ago
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Amernee 1 month ago
Excuses excuses for third world behaviour. I am aware of the bankers plundering our economy but I do not feel the right to go out and mug or loot. Excuses excuses from the luvvy left yet again!
LOLWEISER 1 month ago
How can they even complain about lack of oppurtunity after putting their entire community out of business? The reason they can't get jobs is because they are lazy, stupid, imbeciles. I mean who destorys every place that can give you a job and then complains they can't get a job? The reason for these riots was greed. Simple, full stop end of story. Cunts.
iownall12able 1 month ago
@iownall12able Exactly. Everything I had to say on the matter, you said it mate.
Amernee 1 month ago
@iownall12able Wow,
racheljg1 1 month ago
@racheljg1 If you were personally affected by these scum of the Earth you aren't going to have a very liberal approach to them now.., are you?
iownall12able 1 month ago
I don't think you understand TYT, these 'Chavs' are just greedy benefit whores whom expect everything to be handed to them on a silver platter while contributing nothing to society. I am normally liberal but these people are scum and deserve VERY harsh punishment for their careless greed. They should be FORCED to compensate in full the damage they caused, if not by monetary means then by labour. What about the shop-keepers rights? How can they get a job now they burnt the city? Idiots...
iownall12able 1 month ago
To stop future riots from happening, the government needs to review how schools discipline kids in schools, particularly those who live in poorer areas of the country and have behaviour problems. If the problem is sorted out when they are young, then there may be some hope in stopping things like this from happening again. As for the people who committed the offences, it is a lost generation that we will have to put up with.
Tangointheface 1 month ago
And who cares about the fucking bankers? Is that the default response? 'This guy stole my wallet, but what about the fucking bankers?'
bollwoven 1 month ago
@bollwoven stupse, every1 like to sing the song about the bankers, but is it the banker's fault they get payed a % of their multimillion investment deals? or their employers. any1 of us got offered that job would jump at it with both hands
pablowall 1 month ago
@bollwoven i mean, i'm not attacking you by the way, but correct me if im wrong but i thought investment banking was a job, you don't state what u expect to be payed when entering a company, u get payed what they said they'd pay. people look at them with such scorn, but i would fucking jump at a job like that. also no1 mentions the fact that these bankers work their tits off and don't have much of a life, much like doctors
pablowall 1 month ago
@pablowall Did you seriously just compare bankers to doctors?
GODLeeBarnes 1 month ago
@GODLeeBarnes no not really, i was merely comparing their work loads
pablowall 1 month ago
The participants in the riots are not the demographic of future university students. The actual students stage traditionally peaceful and liberal protests and it is the unemployed and uneducated youth who start the violence.
In short, they're cunts. And cunts do cunt things. If you actually watch/read interviews with the rioters, they can't even fucking piece together a complete sentence let alone construct an argument in support of widespread vandalism.
bollwoven 1 month ago
i dont recall the bankers having killed anyone
bobbybird1987 1 month ago
@bobbybird1987 They're basically Colombian gangsters. They kill everyone for fun.
tadjcmartin 1 month ago
The bankers were not bailed out because they wore suits, they were bailed out because it would have been more damaging for the economy, had they not been bailed out. Get a clue, Russell Brand....
Stevo6452 1 month ago
@Porkchoppa76 and now that the IPCC and police themselves have confirmed that the gun Duggan was supposed to have used was not actually fired, and the ballistics that were uncovered from the crime scene in the squad car duggan was supposed to have shot at turned out to be a police issue bullet from a ricochet? What do you have to say about that?
At which time did Jews take Africans out of Africa? And if you are going to send them back Mr Christian, exactly what country will u send them to?
JayGriffinblaze 2 months ago
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It's easy for you to say that while your sitting safely in your chairs.
Try actually being in London at the time.
The middle class get screwed by the upper class, and the lower class. It is us who should protest.
hassmann2000 2 months ago
It's easy for you to say that while your sitting safely in your chairs.
Try actually being in London at the time.
The middle class get screwed by the upper class, and the lower class. It is us who should protest.
hassmann2000 2 months ago
GET the FUCK OFF THE INTERNET
SMCoiser 2 months ago
AWW NOT THESE IDIOTS AGAIN!!!!! FFFFUUUUUUUUUUCK!!!!!!!!!
Aviador2own 2 months ago
@Foxy2306
No they didn't they caused CRIMINAL damage costing millions. Burning, looting, assaulting the list goes on. What Bankers did was not criminal immoral perhaps not illegal . Logic like that fails and is a lame attempt to excuse criminality. Brand hasn't the foggiest idea how economics works.
BioturdGreasyKebab 2 months ago
@BioturdGreasyKebab brand is'nt saying what they did was ok he's just saying that all these huge bankers lost billions because they are the rich and powerful. the law is the law and basically what he is saying is that if any normal person had lost that much money for our country they'd probably have been killed. And with poverty and unemployment running rampant in our city of course people are going to react negatively to that. hes not excusing what they did hes just pointing out why they did it
robertzio 2 months ago
two ignorant, naive americans. surprised as fuck.
alibeear 2 months ago
when i saw the tittle i expected something totally different :S
Mruncoool 2 months ago
She has great Tits !
conansfries 2 months ago
I expect Russel will be donating a vast amount of his disposable income to a charity for poor kids in london then? No? Could it be that the people who read and write for the guardian are full of shit?
SpinningRockMonkey 2 months ago
@SpinningRockMonkey why the fuck should he donate money? its not the putting in that is the problem, its the government sucking everything out thats the problem! Why would people respect a system that doesnt respect them back? Its bullshit. If i wasnt hard at work the days of the riots i would have been up there throwing petrol bombs at police stations and parliament. And im not a black youth, im a business owning proffessional white adult.
DanReborn 2 months ago
@DanReborn Yeah, except they weren't smashing up police buildings and parliament, they were smashing up businesses and peoples houses, y'know, the people like yourself that pay tax which is the reason the government has money to pay for things like the NHS, job seekers, housing benefit and so on.
SpinningRockMonkey 1 month ago
@DanReborn As for Russel Brand and his money, he can do what he likes with it, but given that he recons that he has a bit of an idea about problems that some of the rioters he is actually in a good position to use some of money to maybe start an educational charity or a youth center or something, then he could use his fame to promote it, then people like you or I might donate to it. It's what people used to do. I'd rather give money to that than the fucking government.
SpinningRockMonkey 1 month ago
@SpinningRockMonkey The problem with that attitude is that funding becomes sporadic and based on the whims of some rich donors. Thankfully, the government funds programs that are not necessarily seen as glamorous but which are needed and the people might say, oh well, I'm not giving to cause x since I don't like it..
St00sh13 1 month ago
@Foxy2306
That's what socialism results in - CORRUPTION. EVERY time socialism strikes, the political elite cream off the top. Hitler did it. Stalin did it. Castro did it. They live the life of riley. Socialism for everyone apart from them. People like you are the reason socialists get into power, people who shouldn't be allowed to vote due to mental retardation. The type of person who thinks communism is still a good idea. lol at you you fucking mongol.
Lightf00t1 2 months ago
@Foxy2306 Have you actually read the article? cos it's really more focused on the kids rioting than the banks, that was just a point he made later in the article. And to be honest it's really not all that relevant to the riots. Anyway my point was more that these two yanks really have no clue what they;re talking about. And by the way mate, learn to have an adult conversation without calling people prats and dickheads, nice one.
robEls911 2 months ago
@Foxy2306
Er .. . . . hello NUMPTY!!!! The banks WERE part- or fully nationalised, RBS being an example.
Do not blame the banks for all the current problems. Look at the Euro crisis, for example. You honestly think that's banks' fault? lol It was due to bailing out the PUBLIC SECTOR of various basket case countries like Greece, places where they have a sense of self-entitlement, much like what Britain is becoming. Socialism is just a complete fail. What we need is capitalism.
Lightf00t1 2 months ago
@Lightf00t1 what bank was nationalised pre 2008? know what you talk about before you start throwing numpty insults about huh? The bailing out of Greece etc was a direct result of our treaty obligations as an EU founding member. The treaty, in case u didn't know was formed under a Tory government in the 1970s & ratified in 1992 (Maastricht) again, by a Tory government. I'm no Labour supporter, but stop being a Sheeple & stop voting in Right Wing governments. They only care about themselves.
JayGriffinblaze 2 months ago
@Foxy2306
I don't know. What I do know is that LAbour was in power, the race-agitating party, the party that fools people into thinking they are for the working class, the party that divides in order to rule, the party of spending beyond the country's means. They bailed out the banks. Fact. Let's see what your response is to that. Oh but . . . wah wah the Tories, the Tories. No buts. No excuses. LAbour are to blame. Fact. Do you understand me sweetheart?
Lightf00t1 2 months ago
@Lightf00t1 I guess maybe u might be a little too young to remember the 1980s, when actions taken by a Conservative government regarding the financial markets, which was to de-regulate & pursue the strategy of Monetarism & Privatisation that led to the housing bubble, then the pensions bubble & finally the financial services bubble to burst. A Tory govt wouldn't have bailed out RBS, they'd have privatised them with healthy donations from 1 of their sponsors, paid for in increased VAT.
JayGriffinblaze 2 months ago
russell brand millionaire, talks about yobs and thiefs who used a gun carrying assholewipe getting shot as a excuse to ruin people areas
beamprimary 2 months ago
@beamprimary lol the same millionaire that used to come to an estate near me with his mate Pete Docherty to buy Quaaludes of the local dealers! lol
JayGriffinblaze 2 months ago
I'd like to point out that it was left-wing governments who bailed out the banks. Labour, for example, under Gordon Brown. Those on the Right do not agree with this. If something fails, it fails.
Lightf00t1 2 months ago
@Lightf00t1 New Labour was not a Left Wing government. Blair was quite clearly a Centre Left politician in parliament, but New Labour was Right of Centre in it's delivery. Blair himself said he ignored Clause 4 of the founding Labour tenets (what makes a Labour party Labour - go look it up). Brown bailing out the banks was part nationalisation, something a labour govt should do anyway in full for it to work. Combining Laissez Faire markets with Socialist policies was doomed from the start.
JayGriffinblaze 2 months ago
Oh my God. Young Turks. How can they be so wrong about everything.
Lightf00t1 2 months ago
Why does he have crap smudged on his forehead?
VANTERHEYDEN 2 months ago
They are criminal welfare dependent niggers that are largely unemployed, uneducated, lazy that saw and opportunity to loot. No fucking justifying it.
BioturdGreasyKebab 2 months ago
@BioturdGreasyKebab I guess the 43% of rioters that were white and charged for rioting must have been "niggers" too, as you put it, especially when the niggers were only 3% more in number. I guess you also missed the white public school educated millionaires's daughter Laura Johnson that looted £6K worth of stuff on her own and drove around london in her Smart car bagging as much as she could, despite living in a different county. Justify that idiot.
JayGriffinblaze 2 months ago
I love Russell Brand but he got this one all wrong.. and so have these two who clearly have absolutely no insight into British culture. The riots were absolutely as senseless and mindless as they were made out to be
robEls911 2 months ago