Terence McKenna ~ 2012 & The Coming Singularity

[papescape]

Hold on to your butts... It's gonna get R3AL Interesting Fast!!!

[xsiobhansmellsx]

NO NO NO NO NO i dont believe 2012 will be our "descent" or that we will become extinct OR that it will be our "dooms day" this is just feeding peoples fears and a massive money making scheme like wat was said when mckenna was cut from the video or at beguining of video!!! ! i believe we will bloom like a beautiful flower! mckenna was right - its a rebirth not a death!!! dark energy will leave as beautiful light will carress us!!!! xxxxx

[rogerscottq]

I like the last line, the accentuation on "unknown". My father told us he was comfortable with uncertainty, and found the only comfort for life's challenges was in his own consciousness of consciousness. Even suffering is an amplifier for that. If an exponential culminates into some epiphany by prior learning into any certainty other than the permanency of consciousness it ends in a static dogmatism. Omniscience = hell. No end of learning, making, doing: life. Otherwise: rather not be.

[ZeranZeran]

This makes a hell of a lot more sense than the "end of the world" theory. I still don't know what to think about 12-21-2012, I find it strange that everyone's making such a big deal of it though.

[tr1ckyful]

thumbs up if you wait this day with a joint.

[yup7861]

so, will i have to pay off my maxed out credit cards or not ?

[MrMondeller]

@yup7861 not



[AVMamfortas]

Tosh. Pass the snake oil.

[danny13947]

rework our genetic blueprint, hmmm.....

[MrJamesdevereblest]

"We are breaking through not breaking down." N. Donald - Walsche

[phillyprodigy09]

Why do they use the words doomsday? Terrible fear mongering

[GeneralHPBastardo]

I saw an advert for pre-baked baked potatoes the other day. Perhaps novelty has been depleted to the point of the final great stupidty test..

[MarlonFSAviz]

You don't need dmt to do that... eckhart tolle can explain better this.

[Hiphopmogul2009]

we are becoming God, all by not being ourself. Foolish

[horse69outside]

Should I do 12 or 21 grammes of shrooms on 12.21....

[Ellipser]

Super computing is the reason lucifer fell. Satan (it) was imprisoned in this world.

I think director George Lucas has the idea that technology must never be allowed to take over living beings, or you'll have an IG-88 wiping out all life in an entire galaxy.

[horse69outside]

its all in our heads. or at least its all a few peoples heads. for every hypersmart creative inquiring mind like mckenna, there are a hundred million jobsworths earning accountancy credentials or working as cops, or whatever, and another hundred million gibbering twerps queueing up for a mcdonalds, or paying for half an hours (ab)use of a hooker.

[horse69outside]

things are going to spin off the hook real soon.

today, liverpool offered man city andy carroll for carlos tevez!

[tuprincipe]

wow so terrance wasnt around to see September 11th, 2001

[heatherrfalk]

This year is gonna be crazy.

[22y1]

And without the psychedaelics??....

[flyinghotwing]

love mckenna and his ability to put into words extremely complex perception

[vintageozarks]

Terence McKenna's theory: He used a computer to make a graph of the historical events as revealed by I Ching. He was a genius. McKenna discovered that the Mayan calendar and McKenna's I Ching theory both concluded that December 21, 2012 was the end of awareness as we experience it now and the beginning of life in another dimension. Anyone reading this now is fortunate for we all live in a fascinating time and get to experience wonder.

[vintageozarks]

Terence McKenna believes nature has given us plants (Coleus for one) to open gates of awareness for us. He, and many other spiritual leaders in this area, use LSD and psychedelic plants to explore the unknown and credit such 'trips' with advanced intelligence and inventions.  Both Steve Jobs and his buddy did LSD and were on trips when they came up with the Apple computer. At first I was saddened to learn that Terence McKenna had died in 2000, but then I realized that only his body died.

[MarlonFSAviz]

@vintageozarks No, he's body is alive as any other thing, what died was his ego.

[csreeves]

It seems like, by definition, there would be one thing missing in a singularity: Mystery.

[dtp5150]

@csreeves i'd say its a little egotistical to think we are possible of creating something so infinitely powerful no? lol

[ButteryAssAbel]

@dtp5150 i create my dreams subconsciously right?

[ButteryAssAbel]

@csreeves we would re-define it.

[Fuzionfire]

Anyone care to enlighten me on what "rklcardinal" said that was so damn important? His post.. ..vanished..

[krossF]

lol stupid druggie. why dont u watch a tool video, fag.

ur moms gonna be pissed when she finds out you've been doing drugs in her basement. she probably wont kick you out, cause she loves her special little guy just wayy too much, but she'll be dissapointed

[MultiZyclon]

@krossF tard

[scream15dazz]

@krossF What the hell are you on about? Close-minded idiot.

[krossF]

@scream15dazz im going to wait in the bushes until you smoke weed and open your third eye so I can poke it as hard as I can. loser

[scream15dazz]

@krossF I personally don't smoke weed or do any sort of drugs or hallucinogens either. So that comment is completely unfounded and presumptuous. You shouldn't be leaving such abrasive comments on a video that touches subjects that you, clearly, know nothing about. Why don't you go back to watching children's programmes, or porn.. or whatever else is suited to your IQ level? Loser.

[OAwArenAwAkeO]

do DMT!! get a peak at whats to come.

[ewanstanley]

this video doesn't explain how those two methods came to the date

[KaiTendo174]

"NOTHING in human experience" 3:14 ...

[calluseiam777]

what i object about this work,is that it is a copy of the mayan knoledge,and just because this gentleman is saying it,now it has credibility.

[EYGreensc]

@calluseiam777 You realize McKenna didn't have any knowledge of the Mayans until after the fact and in fact arrived at his conclusions using completely different methods than the Mayans right?

[rhadiel]

If transcendence will come, it will not need the aid of hallucinogens. I call this bull.

[uxzyleaux]

Its the arrivial of the Annunaki and Nibiru.

[mcabarus]

@lordslavi brink*

[RASAlexander]

i know we wont go extinct cuz with all our stupidity we are still important and extraordinary beings that deserve to be saved. hope im right :P

[mcabarus]

@RASAlexander some of us wont, many of us will

[jay19xxx]

the singularity is in my anus and when that hole blows you are all going to find out what horrific death that awaits humanity - fucking idiots!!!!!!

[junnu79m]

Good way to do psychedelic´s is that you have someone with you, someone who know´s what it´s all about. Douing it alone can turn nightmare if something goes wrong. It wont kill you, but it can get you way lot´s of trouple, like my friens did. His girlfriend called his parent´s and they called ambulance and my friend woke up in mental institute. He took very large dose of mushroom´s and he thought he was dreaming the entire journey on the way to a mental institution. So dont play with it.....

[restlesspride666]

@junnu79m your friend must be a bad person.

[SpockCanYouSaveme]

@junnu79m i eat shrooms alone all the time. that way i dont have to worry about someone elses trip.

[3rdeye15]

@SpockCanYouSaveme smart choice :)

[mcabarus]

@SpockCanYouSaveme oh, yeah? tell us about your trips or of any particular one.

[redkef]

That song in the background... tool, right? mantra?

[SlayerGod999]

only limit to posthumans powers are their imaginations

2199 Intelligent Cosmos = perfectly everything imaginable, unimaginable, and perfectly everything beyond, is far transcended and controlled. Perfectly Omni is transcended

[SlayerGod999]

2030s Imaginary VR simulations commonplace (live out any fantasy no matter how impossible, do anything your imagination can come up with no limit, ultimate happiness and joy)

2050s Posthumanity, beings who are absolutely omnipotent, total omniscient, vast reality warping, indestructible, immortal, endless omnipotence hierarchy, perfectly endless perfect Godmalpha hierarchies, as well as vastly transcendent of everything imaginable,unimaginable, and perfeclty everything beyond.

[SlayerGod999]

Important Events of the Future:

2030s Singularity=infinite technological progress is reached, (meaning will see infinite eons of technological progress every second)! and the producing of infinitely intelligent machines in the near future!

2040s Post Scarcity Event (absolutely everything, electricity, electronics, cars, food, furniture, houses, is now free, monetary system is abolished, absolute wealth and freedom), all physical and intellectual labor is replaced by machines

[Raflegan]

@blackphonetic1 ...I think of Pisces as the Christian era (Jesus-fish, the fisher of men) and Aquarius the air (human intellect) that bears the water (subconscious, quantum sublation, etc) it has, as you note, that double wave symbol which is almost a representation of electrical current. Power, technology; harnessing the electron: the "information age".

[lachiemusic]

@Raflegan The age of Aquarius does not start until 2150.. Not 2012..

[Raflegan]

@lachiemusic ....there's nothing I've ever read that says the age of Pisces started at year 0. It's an astrological constant not a convention of calenders.

[TEARDUCTER]

@lachiemusic how did he calculate 2012 then?

[SincereCreature]

All right xD

[SincereCreature]

@blackphonetic1 That's interesting, about the lines. I've no idea yet what might it be though. What do you think yourself?

[okthisisboring]

Terrence mckenna is talking in general and gregory stock is clearly pro-transhumanism. How the hell can no one see that? Transhumanism is dehumanizing not evolution. WTF is wrong with this world?

[AquariusRevolution]

@okthisisboring Very true, I see the agenda of Transhumanism everywhere now, people must be very careful as to technological advancement. We must advance spiritually first before we implement certain technologies, i mean why make life more complicated. Now that i say that, maybe it's our destiny, i mean if humans evolved from simple life forms, moving towards complexity, maybe it's within us to want to strive to create such a things even if it ultimately means self-destruction.

[okthisisboring]

i'm pretty sure gregory stock and terrence mckenna aren't on the same side. One preaches use of natural psychedelics the other is focusing on the science that has been referred to as "playing god".

[amnesia529]

i need those plants !!

[s6u6r6f6]

Acid heads.

I've been seeing these dudes around campfires since 1965. Later some chick wasted on Ripple and doobies will sing Janis Joplin while some dude waves a stck he pulled out of the fire around in the air so we all can watch the trails and say "far out"

Back...BAck...BAAACCCK to the sixties...go back there and stay there.

[TheMcJG]

@s6u6r6f6 STFU?



[nostolgia]

@s6u6r6f6 id rather be an acid head than a dumb dumb, bitchin about terence mckenna. Plus im not an "acid" head.

[EWirtz34]

@s6u6r6f6 You are incredibly unevolved. There's no words to say to you because you will simply construct the most destructive and irrelevant translation for you to understand for yourself. Why? Because you have so much hate and ignorance in yourself, this proves the entire thing you're against, because you're believing your own reality and making it true. Well, so are we, which one seems more fun?? Which one seems most promising??? EDUCATE YOURSELF. Jeeez, only now are people proud to be dumb.

[s6u6r6f6]

@EWirtz34

hostile, aren't we Mary?

[TheNIGGYNOGGY]

@s6u6r6f6 You, sir, are misled about acid.

[lowrider692]

nice movie thx mr mckenna..

[AbattoirDream]

GMO's? Transhumanism..? no thanks..

FUCK GMO's.

i dont mind the transhuman shite as long as it doesnt impose itself onto me, if it does, ill sledgehammer the servers.

[musicPMA]

tool mantra. Sweet

[earlgrey626]

It's interesting he calls Salvia Divinorum a "new psychedelic" when he clearly knows it's been used psychoactively for thousands of years..

[HowlMoonBeam]

@earlgrey626 He's talking about its use in our culture. Not in the cultures it was derived from

[ogskeetdizzle]

sorry but the real mayan date return of Quetzalcoatl is in summer 2012, Venus Transit, for Venus is the feathered serpent..

[gerrardizking]

we cannot compare our time to mayan time, if you do research you would know that our time is totallyoff from theirs, so who knows when this will actually happen

[earlgrey626]

@gerrardizking Actually, because this is such a basic criticism, it's addressed in most authoritative books on the subject that the 12/21/2012 date is the translated version. The Mayans didn't call it that, it's just our Gregorian calendar counterpart to their calendar end date.

[DivineCognition]

Do not be naive people, we all share the one and the same collective consciousness thus be happy and find ways to make your life worth living. Whether it is changing your life or finding a job you really love. Avoid news at all costs, it's a business and they can only sell negative news feeds. If you are depressed then more than likely you need that change. Accept all and any changes with love and hope for the better. This is the only advice I can assure you with to prepare yourselves for 2012.

[BudoScience]

If anything this will all be a placebo affect and all the psychedelics fans/cultists will go completely insane. They will be so sucked into this "2012 Singularity" that they will be completely oblivious to the world around them. I keep up with technology and let me tell you, we are not going to reverse engineer the human brain in a year. It will be at least a decade or two. (Reverse engineering the human brain is needed for the Singularity to happen)

[theTOOLshed1]

How many people here now what a singularity is?

[BudoScience]

@theTOOLshed1 The Singularity is the point at which technology will be so advanced that it will be able to do something equal or greater to the action that a human brain can do. Artificial intelligences created will have infinite mathematical knowledge. We will either learn from these intelligences or they will take over. They will evolve at an alarming rate which may change the course of human civilization to the brink of finding out the hidden secrets of the universe. "star trek tech times 10"

[dennisisawesome]

im from the future

[sparcenigma07]

Hey there, Thanks 4 posting this! I like how he presents his truths abouts plants!

[PizzaguylolXD]

2012 has nothing to do with the singularity... McKenna is just trying to cash in on other people's ideas. Kurzweil projects it to happen no sooner than 2045, and I'd take his theories over McKenna's any day.

[BudoScience]

@PizzaguylolXD yeah LOL kurzweil actually used math to create a prediction similar to Moore's Law but on an exponential scale. McKenna is a dillusional drug addict who's seen too many sci-fi movies. "Psychodelic substances"??? C'mon?! LMAO

[avedic]

@BudoScience He was not a drug addict. Entheogens, which is what he espoused, are not addictive at all. Also, it's clear you've never tried such substances yourself. Either that, or you were unfortunately born with a very limited consciousness devoid of any creativity or curiosity about the world around you and an inability to gain any insight.

By the way, it's spelled "psychedelic." It seems along with laughing your ass off, you laughed your brain and soul right out of your body as well.

[BudoScience]

@avedic Thats not the point? Terence McKenna had no idea what he was talking about. He really had nothing to do with the singularity. Nothing he ever said had anything to do with the Singularity. I would never try such substances because there is absolutely no point. I am a realist and an atheist. My curiosity lies in everything that gets mankind closer to finding everything out about the universe(s). I don't believe in souls or seeing the future through psychedelics. My research is in physics.

[avedic]

You cannot say that Terrence had no idea what he was talking about when it's clear that YOU have no idea what he was talking about. And to say there's no point in an experience that you've never experienced is rather ridiculous. It's like a blind person turning down the opportunity to see through eyes, because there's no "point." Why close yourself off to an experience so profound to so many? First time I tried psilocybin I looked in the mirror and was stunned.

[avedic]

The realization that we are indeed highly evolved apes hit home in a way that was palpable. It's impossible to explain without experiencing it. And if you are into physics, you surely realize that reality is quite mysterious. Sure, we can play reductionist and attempt to understand the world. That is all well and good. But, why does ANY of it exist at all? How do billions of insentient atoms give rise to YOUR consciousness. Does that question not tug at your curiosity?

[BudoScience]

@avedic Actually that question is much less "curious" than you think. In the beginning, before life on earth, there were amino acids. These amino acids kept joining and separating until they made the right chain. Thus life began. They created Chromosomes and DNA and all the things that dictate the way that we would grow forever. We have reached a peak in growth. Our brains are quite amazing but we can only do so much. But we are able to have a consciousness.

[BudoScience]

@avedic Reality is only mysterious because we are limited by our senses. We create tools to help us find out information about what we cant see. Im not a Copenhagenist. I dont believe that if a tree falls in the forest and no one is around to hear it, that it didnt make a sound. I believe everything is there and clear even without measurement. These drugs that you talk about dont allow us to see ultraviolet light because our eyes are limited. But we know that ultraviolet light is there.

[avedic]

@BudoScience actually, dmt and psilocybin most definitely allow one to experience both a heightened depth and clarity to all the senses as well as the perception of very real things that are normally beyond the limits of our senses. I know it doesn't sound plausible, but just try it and see. For instance, telepathy is ridiculously easy on psilocybin. Conduct a test. Have a partner write down 5 random numbers. then, both take psilocybin and read their mind(it comes naturally). You'll be surprised

[avedic]

Physics shows us how time and space a relative to eachother; how matter and energy are relative to eachother. And how time is fundamentally non-temporal and space non-local. Is that not fascinating?

I think religion is downright awful. It holds back our species as a whole with gusto. You don't need to believe in souls or god or any other made up human word in order to be curious about the nature of consciousness, which you must admit...is rather mysterious.

[BudoScience]

@avedic I agree religion is awful. It does hold us back. And Kurzweil suspects that we will reverse engineer the human brain in the mid-2020s. This is when we learn about the "nature of consciousness." Things are a lot more simple than people outside of physics think. And yes i know many past scientists have said that, that we were done learning new scientific discoveries, and then we found more scientific discoveries, but we are getting to the precipice: The Singularity

[avedic]

And the Singularity most definitely has alot to do with this. The singularity is simply the aggregate consolidation of an infinite amount of information within a substrate of almost nothing...a black hole of information. We cannot separate ourselves from the whole picture and hope to understand what is going on.

Direct experience is so very important. It is the filter through which you experience EVERY aspect of everything.

[avedic]

To call human experience "objective" makes as much sense as calling the experience of a bird "objective." Consciousness filters reality as a matter of fact. What many find when taking psychotropic substances, is that this subjective consciousness we exist within, seems to open up in a way that is palpable, full of valid insight and information, and excruciatingly interesting. On top of that, psilocybin and DMT are analogous to serotonin and other neurotransmitters.

[avedic]

DMT is infact made within the brains of all mammals. This fact alone makes it worthy of study. There's reason to believe it may be THE primary neurotransmitter that regulates subjective consciousness. So, to dismiss it with a wave of the hand as taboo and not worth bothering with is missing the point of curiosity, science, and our duty to learn.

[BudoScience]

@avedic Im a realist. I dont believe there is a purpose for ANYTHING. I do like to learn. But what I LIKE to learn is not associated with any type of drug. We have cognitive thinking skills and so we can do whatever the hell we want with them. We are more free than people believe. Im not going to try your drugs, because i don't want to.

[avedic]

@BudoScience they aren't "my" drugs. And its ok if you don't try them, but then, don't claim you know what they do to consciousness or claim that the experience isn't based on something profoundly real. You simply have no idea. I promise, if you tried DMT, you would humbly retract what you say about it.

Besides, you DO take DMT. It is indeed a neurotransmitter inside your brain at this very moment. If that doesn't make it worth learning about, I don't know what does.

[MajikPanda]

@avedic well said avedic =) much peace!

[avedic]

I agree...reality IS what we should be concentrating on. But, the thing is, your consciousness, whatever it may be, IS real. Your experience of being IS real. Psilocybin IS real. DMT IS real and IS made in YOUR brain. The experiences people have on these substance are REAL.

Why deny yourself such an experience during your short stay on Earth? I would respect your dismissal much more if you knew what you were talking about.

[BudoScience]

@avedic My "short stay on earth" may turn out to be a stay forever on earth. With the Singularity we will be able to be immmortal. Our "consciousness" put onto a disc and uploaded to a computer system... I know exactly what im talking about. No matter what visions, or experiences you have on these drugs, they are not going to give you a sudden glance to the future because physics tells us that that is impossible. Terence McKenna said he could see the singularity but he couldnt. He's a lier...

[avedic]

@BudoScience I agree with what you said about the Singularity. P=W/t ... Productivity=Work/Time. Our current paradigm is to increase the W value. Well, the Singularity, as you said, will increase the t variable and allow an infinite expansion of consciousness.

You seem so sure of what entheogens are and what they do...yet you're clearly quite uninformed as to what the entheogen experience is. You sound whiny calling Terrence a liar. Be brave and curious enough to engage direct experience :P

[BudoScience]

@avedic Ok... let me state the point of all of what im saying in one sentence... The Singularity cannot possibly happen by 2012 without the help of another cognitive-thinking life form from another planet that is much further than we are evolutionarily. It just wont happen. The point of the Singularity had to do with technology, and how it would get far more superior than the human brain, nothing else. Terence McKenna just expanded on this idea to make it mean something else entirely.

[avedic]

@BudoScience In all the posts I've made I didn't once say that the Singularity is happening by 2012. Also, Terrence has said numerous times that 2012 is a metaphor. A metaphor for the obvious profound change in human consciousness that must, be necessity, occur when the Singularity comes to be.

Terrence rightly states that entheogens don't merely produce meaningless pretty colors and hallucinations...but they are indicative of something REAL. If you tried them, you would get that really quick.

[avedic]

I'll finish by saying this. I guarantee you...and I would bet all my worldly possessions on it...that if you were to ingest 4 grams of psilocybin containing mushrooms...you would completely change your mind about the nature of consciousness. I guarantee it. I would bet any and everything on it. And I'm not being hyperbolic. Want to prove me wrong? Try it. You'll see. ;)

[avedic]

NOTE: The below 8 posts are all mine, and should be read starting at the bottom and working up. This is a response to BudoScience's earlier reply. Sorry for the odd format of the text....that's YouTube for you... :)

[avedic]

@PizzaguylolXD If you actually listened to Terrence you would understand he was far too smart to make date-dependent predictions like some sort of televangelist. 2012 is merely a metaphor for what is happening. However, even as a guess to the date of the information singularity, it's not THAT far off.

[SincereCreature]

@PizzaguylolXD "cash in"... Yeah, right. No man that uses psychedelics will ever want to do that.

[rklcardinal]

Maybe the conscious and subconscious will trade places.

It will come like a thief in the night.

[insubordinatebastard]

@rklcardinal thats a hella good idea for a movie

[somedump]

@insubordinatebastard

As in 'Waking Life' and 'Inception'?

[stalepixel]

@insubordinatebastard if fox allows it, chris carter wants to explore it in a 3rd x files movie

[bacelines]

@rklcardinal thats sounds pretty scary man.

[mcabarus]

@bacelines listen to Terence McKenna not the commentator or the music, the commentator was just making the doom and gloom approach so more people would watch this. Terence is saying quite the opposite.

[Lifter85]

@rklcardinal ...no more crack for you.

[youdevil6]

@Lifter85 crack? what the hell are you talking about?

[eloquentfear]

@rklcardinal that would be sooooooo cool.

[SincereCreature]

@rklcardinal I think that's exactly what is happening!

[ronix524]

@SincereCreature me too man! i feel very strong about this

[ChristianPeper]

Terence stood for freedom. The Sacred Mushroom Church uses psychedelic mushrooms as it’s sacrament but the US Government says that religious freedom is illegal. Arresting those that use magic mushrooms is wrong because this religion is thousands of years older than Christianity.

[uksquall]

thanks so much, keep it up.. this will help the few intellectual that can heed the call of the cosmos.

[kid43332]

@uksquall Do you mean only smart people will transcend in 2012?

[uksquall]

@kid43332 not at all, its as simple as can be.. as simple as the base cultures said everything was made of energy, watch the next few months until February and msg me back if its not interesting.

[kid43332]

@uksquall I have no doubt it is and will be interesting. So you're saying that every single one of us will move into this new stage in consciousness? But maybe for some it will be more difficult?

[maryjane9999]

@kid43332

There are people in this world who would never want to be part of the world McKenna imagined. It's hard to understand and seems crazy from my or from your point of view, but those people exist. They will never make it to the new stage of consciousness because they don't want to, wether consciously or subconsciously.