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  • someone please up load kadosh kadosh

  • @moronthannot kefa said, "attah hu MASHIACH BEN OLIM CHYIM" (forgive the mispelling, i do not have matt. 26 in hebrew in front of me) and tell me something, in b'resheet chapter 1, the letters aleph and taph apear next together next to ELOHIM why? JESUS said in revelation, "I AM the alpha and omega the beginning and the end" but im also not going to argue scripure with you, but i care to warn you "condemnation is this, man loves the darkness, and would not come into the light" john 3:19

  • @gershomexo22 "et" is a preposition that directs the verb to the subject. The reason one would say "alpha and omega" and "aleph taw" is because aleph is the first letter and taw is the last letter, meaning that they somehow are all encompassing. To make this statement is simply unprovable in and of itself. This attempt to connect "et" to JC is a moot point.

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  • see 2 things throughout the bible, and it started with abraham, the LORD told him to "go" and the LORD promised him HE would bless him and then promised him many children. YESHUA said in mark 16:15 "go into all the world and preach the gospel, matthew 28:19 "go and make deciples of all the nations," and in matt 6, 10 and luke 10 HE told HIS deciples to not fear man, or worry about provisions because our AVI-'AD knows what we need. i see evangelism, abraham was blessed to be a blessing.

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  • i love the hebrew scriptures, i love how everything points to JESUS. i love to look at the 7 feasts in Vayikra 23 and how they were promises and warnings. JESUS fulfilled the first 4, (pasach, hag hamatzah, bikkurim, and shavout) and the rest are mentioned in revelation (rosh hashanah, yom kippur, and sukkot). and the tehillim! i love how king dawid would study the torah and by revelation from RUACH HAKODESH, he prophesied about YESHUA so much.

    i am 100 percent gentile, but i like the hebrew

  • @moronthannot: How about a public debate my friend?  Why go back & forth on youtube!?!? Let me know how you wish to proceed.

  • @Hazakim I might have loved a debate about 8 months ago. haha! I have had a ton of time to grow and learn. I am no longer in a process of converting to Judaism. For many more reasons than I can explain here. I was harsh previously and shouldn't have been. I wish, now, to just live and direct my steps to better serving God the way He has asked me to do as a non-Jew. I still have my beliefs about the NT, but don't get so loud and vocal about it. There is a wall between us that may never fall.

  • @moronthannot I wish, only now, to debate privately, but only under the context of civil conversation. 500 characters gets confusing and redundant. While I do not still believe in any form of christianity (catholicism, protestantism, or messianic judaism) I also do not necessarily believe in today's version of Orthodox judaism. I believe that cor centuries now, things have been added, but you won't find those things in the Talmudh except for purposeful misinterpretation for a modern agenda.

  • @moronthannot "We" The whole of humankind crucified CHRIST, that to me ads up to a number of nations, Rest asured Satan and his army were gnashing their teeth.

    even if you don't take this spiritual, read Acts 2: 9-11 there were at least 16 nationalities in Jerusalem at that time.

    On the other hand I'm certain Davids bones were not out of joint when he wrote this, nor were dogs tearing at his flesh, his heart didn't melt like wax. GOD always came to his rescue (David knew that), cont.

  • @moronthannot It sure was not a coincidence, look at it from the side of David, he describes the events to the detail; "All my bones can be seen.

    My enemies look at me and stare. They gamble for my clothes and divide them among themselves."

  • @BuyaahKazan There is also a ton of stuff that David wrote that DIDN'T happen at the crucifixion than did in psalm 22. He spends 3-4 verses "supposedly" describing every detail, but what about all the nations that surround David? What about all the rabid animals who are out to get him? What about the mighty ones of Bashan? David was expressing the desperation of a man constantly in battle and endlessly threatened by war from neighboring nations. (cont...)

  • @BuyaahKazan It's amazing that you think this was about JC, because he was never threatened by any number of nations nor were they gnashing their teeth at him constantly. The only nations who had heard about him at that point were SOME of the Jews and SOME of the Romans. Jews make up 0.1-0.2% of the population today, let alone back then. Mighty bulls of Bashan were nowhere to be found, just some fickle legalistic Jews and some Romans who wanted to let him go! Hardly a depiction of Psalm 22.

  • @moronthannot All the ends of the world shall remember and turn unto the LORD: and all the kindreds of the nations shall worship before thee." this is a Messianic Prophecy starting at 27-31, this will to happen to the Jewish People continually always with opposition from being a nation, It was National and above all Messianic, Bulls, are figurative speech im sure he didnt have bulls of bashan surrounding him, or being pierced he was KING! the nations were inevitable knowing of the Lord!

  • @moronthannot 1-21 lead up to the crucifixion, 22-31 speak of what happens after it.

    with as climax: 30 In the future, everyone

    will worship

    and learn

    about you, our Lord.

    31 People not yet born

    will be told,

    “The Lord has saved us!”

  • @Hazakim I still believe in the Oral Torah, but not like mainstream Judaism adheres to it. If you want to find out more, PM me. I have realized that there is a path that was set out in Torah for all mankind (not born into the people of Israel, nor the people who choose freely to accept the Torah upon themselves). I choose this path of a moral life without the burdens of religion or doctrine. A life pleasing to God, but not packed with full Torah observance, which is not required of me.

  • When the shofar blew every hair stood up

  • praise HIM

  • This is awesome!!!!!! They speak the Truth!!!!! I just found my new fav group and they in CINCINNATI and IM from CINCY!!!!!!! I hope i can meet and see them in person!!

    I am not jewish but 100% believe that messianic Jewish idealistic is the Truth of all!!!!!

    For Jesus came to fullfill the Law not to abolish it!!

  • the reason I'm a Christian and not a messianic jew is because jews are focusing n traditions and not on the faith.

  • oh boy. That sounds so typical. How do you know what Jews are focusing on? I can bet you haven't ever even met a real Jew.

    Did you ever think that the reason the Jews focus on the traditions set up in the Torah is BECAUSE of their faith in G-d? G-d said to do these things (in Torah, first 5 books of the Bible.) FOR ETERNITY. What better way to express their faith in Him that you claim they don't have, than to act out the things He told them to do? None. There is no better way.

  • Jesus has been here to fulfill so they no more have to practise all traditions that are not related to The Torah.

    Sorry that I didn't tell you what traditions but there are plenty.

  • @Flozzee Traditions that aren't related to Torah? Which ones? Like circumcision? Wearing Tzitzit? Keeping Shabbat? Obeying the Great Sanhedrin's rulings? (Deut 17:8-13)? Wow! I had no idea that those things that are IN Torah are not related to Torah! You crack me up dude!

    Why is it that when Jews have so much faith in G-d they continue to keep Torah in the face of all opposition (which Torah predicts will happen) people say that they don't have faith? How does that make sense? ugh...

  • @moronthannot , white washed tombs clean their hands, wrists, elbows,arms more than a surgeon but haven't cleaned their hearts. I work Monday thru Friday with 5 lovely coworkers for the last 8 years and haven't heard them once talk openly about their Y'H'W'H; only about the traditions occuring during the year. He wants our broken and contrite hearts not our sacrificed curcumcisions. There is thee best one way, one truth, one life. Yeshua Immanuel

  • @Humanicristarian Wrong. Read Psalm 51 again. "The sacrifices G-d desires are a spirit that is broken; a heart broken and humbled, O G-d, You will not despise." It also goes on to say some things about rebuilding Jerusalem. BUT once we have accomplished these things, THEN THAT is when HaShem wants our bulls on His alter. Read v21: "Then You will desire the offerings of righteousness, burnt offering and whole offering; THEN bulls will be offered up on Your alter."

  • Besides...Y'shua was never called Immanuel...and Isaiah's "prophecy" which was actually a sign, was fulfilled in the time of king Ahaz. Once again, context totally repudiates your position. You only take the parts of scriptures that suit your agenda, and not the WHOLE story and context.

  • Isaiah 9

    Isaiah 53

    Psalm 22

    Daniel 9 2:6 this proves the messiah has already come to the earth.

  • Perfect. How Christian of you. Avoid the issue at hand before we understand the current one. Did you read Psalm 51? Did you read what I posted? I won't even begin to tear your faulty interpretation of Isaiah 9 when you have no idea the context of that passage. Isaiah 53...old issue. It's about Israel. Psalm 22 was something david said. This proves nothing. Daniel 9 has already been fulfilled. Messiah doesn't mean THE messiah. It means anointed. All priests, and kings are anointed.

  • @hat655 The only way Daniel 9 proves that J'sus is the messiah is if you impose a manmade equation. The use of the ridiculous notion of a "prophetic" year of 360 days is unheard of in ALL OF HISTORY!!! In Torah, there cannot be a 360 day year if we are supposed to keep Pesach in the springtime as the Torah commands. If you use a real Jewish year (the one the prophets wouldve used) your claim is void. NOWHERE in history is there evidence of a prophetic year. You impose this to suit your agenda.

  • @moronthannot

    If you want evidence that the Messiah is Yahweh in flesh and the Trinity is true.

    Then you don't have to go any further than 32 chapters into the Torah.

    (Genesis 32)

  • @hat655 If that's only how far I have to go, and that chapter is supposed to be so convincing, then why did you feel the need to quote other verses from Tanakh first? Maybe because you know it's not so convincing...Besides. All I see in Bereshith 32 is a story of how Yaakov wrestled with a spiritual entity. Elohim doesn't mean "The Creator". It is a term used to refer to The Creator, but it is not exclusive to Him. Can you read Hebrew? I have a verse to show you that will prove this point...

  • @hat655 Read Exodus 7:1 in Hebrew (if you can). It says "vayomer HaShem el-moshe, re'eh natatikha ELOHIM leparoh" Translation: Said HaShem to Moshe: "See, I have made you a ELOHIM over Pharaoh..." Just because Gen 32 says that Yaakov wrestled with elohim, it doesn't mean it was G-d Himself. The term el (elohim) in hebrew, just means a powerful one. This term is in fact used to describe false powers or deities. Gen 32 doesn't tell us about a trinity. That is a foreign concept in Torah.

  • @moronthannot Psalm 22 (a Psalm by David)

  • @BuyaahKazan I love that psalm. Amazing imagery of suffering that David must have experienced in his life. He had much blood on his hands (hence why he could not build the Temple), so it was almost like the grief he was feeling in return for all that he spilled. I feel like the real message here is belittled by just saying it refers to Jesus. I love David's devotion, even in the face of death and tragedy, how he was always in love with his Creator.

  • @moronthannot The Psalm describes the events on the day of the crucifixion to the smallest detail, it's also no coincidence this the Psalm JESUS recites, hanging on the cross.

  • @BuyaahKazan I don't think this was coincidental at all. JC probably knew this psalm very well and his emotions at the time were mirroring that of David's. David felt lost and forsaken and cried out to the Creator. It may describe the details of someone who is being crucified, but I don't see how that proves anything. If it DOES prove anything, it is not unequivocally that JC was who he said he was. Lots of things mirror prophetic writing without qualifying as a fulfillment of prophecy...

  • @hat655 Are you going to avoid this topic too when you figure out how powerful Torah is when you understand the Hebrew of it? Are you gonna throw some other "proof" text at me before you confront the issues you keep bringing up? let's see.......I could do this all day man, but you need to start confronting issues instead of running and hiding behind cookie-cutter bible verses when you obviously don't understand the context of the verses you quote...C'mon man. Do some work for yourself.

  • @moronthannot Funny how the anti-missionary "orthodox" promponents of an "ORAL torah" accuse believers in Yeshua of "adding to the Word". My friend, I follow Torah Judaism, not Rabbinic tradition.....The TORAH states that Yakov wrested with Elohim. If it were merely a "spiritual being", why would Yakov marvel at the fact that he saw his face AND YET HIS LIFE WAS SPARED? Couple this with Bereshit 48:15-16 and the answer is clear. BTW, I wrote this song to proclaim this truth.

  • @moronthannot My friend....you really don't want a debate. And neither do I! I want you to seek God with all your heart and follow truth wherever it leads. Even if it contradicts your loyalty to rabbinic tradition! Are the rabbis gods?!? Heaven forbid!

  • @Humanicristarian TORAH is the way, truth, the life, which was given by G-d for us to keep, not have someone vicariously fulfill it for us. Ezekiel 18 proves this point very well. Read your bibles boys!!!!!!!

  • @moronthannot , this is great unlimited information you are providing us with Y'H'W'H. I always love to learn more. I am subscribing to you. Humble and contrite, not a proud heart G'd desires of us.The heart is deceitfully wicked, who can know it?

  • The loop in this song is wicked and you end up learning a chapter from the Bible from heart 0_0

  • you still have to read The Bible!

  • @Flozzee Well of course. It's just that the music is also a good teaching tool and makes us go mack and read it in a new light.

  • Praise Adonai!! May Yeshua's shalom continually be with Hazakim. Thanks my Jewish brothers for bringing the gospel to both Jews and non Jews! Your music is totally from the L-rd! Much love!!

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  • Derrr christian!

  • Is Hazakim Jewish?

  • hazakim are Messianic Jews. They're jewish people who believe Jesus is the Messiah. hope that helps

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