bboy lil rock from kilafornia vrs bbby born from rivers crew into world of dance 2009

[zeroeman]

born makes me sleepy at least lil rock hit a few things

[godoykings]

LIL ROCK

[DATcoolCOT]

fuck borns dickriders nigga is dope but why the fuck is everyone bashing lil rock?

[bboycatatau]

born is the best I !!!!!

[myleftsh0e]

even tho he crashed, a dumb to say that lil rock has sloppy sets. They are all like clockwork its weird how people dont see it

[1BadASSMothERFuCKA]

da usik suckSSSS dicKKKKKK

[01132480218]

Also with you 'trying' to insult meon the internet, just totally proves you're an eboy and that you cant form a constructive sentence with sense, so much that you have to result in calling me a 'fish choking on sum moose cock' i never knew fish could go near their cocks but hey, if you've seen it then its probably you chokin on it. hahha (that was good)

hope to hear your reply soon BBOY 'crazy racoon'!!

[01132480218]

Also, if you think you can burn me, then if we ever meet, a callout is what i will be expecting, theres no need to boast about you being busy 'training' to be honest its not about how much you train its about how hard you train.....for me to help you understand what i'm saying i'll give you a quote from bboy poe1 - 'dont watch what he's doing, listen to what he's doing' ...in other words, look at the moves each bboy does and aline it to the beats, and you'll see what i mean.....

[DTheAthlete]

word!!! its all about rockin' the beat to me

[01132480218]

This is to u 'aznboyeeee' this is from 4 months back...'Cliche' haha dont make me laugh!! i'm not being cliche, i've actually spoken to born face2face and he practically said the same thing i told you, if you're truly not and eboy, then if you ever meet born call him out and show him how it should be done!

[bboydizzy69]

wow ws this in new york

[xmikeyxcoolx]

no CA

[db7987]

Lil rock is a stunt type bboy with no real style for battling. He is more suited towards group work where he can just bust some crazy moves and get out. Battling one on one takes much more. Born went soft and still won.

[Faris92]

lil rock is wack....

he crashed twice and his sets were sloppy

anyway respect to both bboys for keepin it real

peace

[PharaohAibCrew]

and with a name like lil roc, key word roc! you would think his top rocs would be a lil better than what they were in this battle.

[BboyHotshot]

@PharaohAibCrew

R.O.C. = means Representative of Crew....that's what Roxrite told me....it doesn't refer to toprock or downrock...but yeah it sounds like that...so it has that effect too maybe...but that's not what is implied.

[PharaohAibCrew]

Music Plz anyone know the name of the last track?

[lengateng]

flip flop

[roarrasengan3]

I see lol I hope to meet you one day. You sound like a pretty cool person. May I know what you go by???

[aznboyeeee]

i go by crazy raccoon. recently i had a battle with killa kane from bham tribe. u can search that up. just type "crazy raccoon vs killa kane". i dnt post too many vids of myself =)

[roarrasengan3]

I hope i didn't start a commotion debating back, but it's just that the videos that I watch every single one of them have dissing in it.

[aznboyeeee]

i see. that gets me mad too, sometimes i dnt see why good bboys like cloud, reveal, and others still post clips so viewers can lay their eyes on, when some out there would start dissing.

it shows the ignorants going around in our time.

[roarrasengan3]

Well I only debate because I thought you were dissing him. In most of the bboy videos that I watched like Machine, Cloud, and all the other good Bboys out there always have somebody dissing them. In most of the Recent ones they insult them saying their old and etc...

[roarrasengan3]

I do agree with you that people do give him too much credit, but they themseleves don't know anything about the Bboy World...

People who Bboy themselves who dunno the History shouldn't be called Bboys.

[aznboyeeee]

if ur one of them true bboys, and go by non biased judging, then bro, i dnt see why we were debating all this time O_O

just for the heads up though, i think born is hella dope, i never ment any dissing when i called him "cliche'.

[roarrasengan3]

It's true that Born does get a little too much credit for his work, but true bboys will actually know who is who. People who thinks the older generation sucks arn't true bboys themselves. You can learn to ignore them, but if you call Born cliche isn't that the same as degrading him?? isn't that the same thing as what other "EBOYS" are doing? degrading others bboys without even knowing who they are?? to other people the word cliche could insult something or they can get offended by it.

[aznboyeeee]

the reason why i say he's cliche, is just to show he's not TOOO out of this world, i really wasnt trying to degrade anyone. i want all bboys to be treated EQUALLY. not because of race, or etc.... dats wat hip hop is all about.

alot of people today use bboying as a toy, and not know who to thank, or give credit too. i just want to see the day when everyone can just stop being stubborn and ignorant, and see this as a culture of unity, and equality. including non biased judging.

[anestech85]

i like born's mullet!! i think ima grow one now ..lol..born wins!

[roarrasengan3]

also you said you supported born more than lil roc but out of all the 77 comments on this video you said nothing good about him but called him cliche..

[roarrasengan3]

Also it's not just Eboys (whatever you call them) who thinks that Born is dope but also orginal bboys like Alieness,Machine, Casper, Mind 180 CREW. He also Represents Mighty Zulu Kings and if you are a bboy yourself you should know that Mighty Zulu Kings stands for World Wide foundation, power, footwork, everything... that makes a bboy. If you can't find those videos of machine, casper, mind180 saying that born is dope, then i'll give you the links to them if you are unsatisfied...

[roarrasengan3]

Also the Word Exhibit means to show, to show an attribute. There are no judges judging it, but that doesn't mean people can't judge the match from their point of view.

[roarrasengan3]

Also there weren't many bboys that was in korea before Rivers,Drifters, Gamlbers, Extreme, Expression... for Korean bboy born was one of the orginal bboys that just started.

[roarrasengan3]

Also The Word "Eboy" does not exist... only people who can't win an argument makes up the name Eboy to make themselves look better. If you are good then you can't make that judgement by yourself. You let the people decide whether you are good or not. The people in Korea has Breaking for a job so you can't blame them, because the media wants a certain Bboy to be known.

[aznboyeeee]

and im also not talking about the ppl who has born side legit fully in this match. im talking about the ppl who over hype him because of where he's from! Born is DOPE, i never said he WASNT! i didnt say anything good about lil rock also around this page. but wat i want is ppl to judge unbiasedly, dats it! and the reason i said born is cliche is because, he's not SOOOO special, things he do are just like any bboy that do their thing anywhere around the world.

[aznboyeeee]

u might be from a different country, i understand that. but realize ur the only one that is making a Bible of useless reply's dat almost have nothing to do with the point im trying to get across.

[roarrasengan3]

Who said I think Born was the Shit? I think he is Dope, but when did i say he is the Shit? I just think he is good. Lil Rock lack musicality and that's why i thought he lost.

[aznboyeeee]

back to point 1. i never said people can't judge the match from their point of view, that wuz my point in the first PLACE! judge the battle unbiasedly. wat i wuz trying to bring out in the first place, is that ppl out there do think he's all that just because he's korean, ONLY BECAUSE! I wuz trying to show ppl that Born isnt such a big shot because hes korean, but only because he's a bboy like most of us around the world. im not pointing fingers, but yea born is great, but born is cliche also.

[aznboyeeee]

a bunch of number of ppl treat koreans like they created bboying, dats wat really makes me upset. Alieness originality doesnt even get as much props as these koreans today from these stubborn ass new generation. Koreans now and days get more love then the ones who actually originated alot of the stuff we do. RSC is the heart of most of our bboying, and i even see stupid cats now and days, say they SUCK!

[bboyKlappa]

um no offense this is no hate but more people like american better they are influenced by the bullshit america shit crew and other bull crap competition. i seriously hink alieness is the bomb i like the way he hits the beats and machine, who owns the korean bboys, but hey there are some good bboys like hong 10, physicx, and the end. no hate on u peace

[aznboyeeee]

dope. i just want to see the day when everybody treat every BBOY equally. Hip hop is all about unity, not race, or etc....

[bboyKlappa]

ya same its all about peace no discrimination

[bboyKlappa]

ya same bboys are equal no discrimination

[roarrasengan3]

aznboyeee you should stop to think to see how many enemies you are making online just from a few simple words that you typed. You do in fact live in the USA and how we do things in the USA is through Democracy... and that goes the same for the judges... 2/3 picks the winner...

[roarrasengan3]

If you were the one of the judges then you get to pick who wins but at this moment a majority of this group says that born won. So if you lost a battle are you going to go confront the judges? I don't think so... That would make you look even dumber

[roarrasengan3]

if you won your fair shares of battles then how do you know those battles were won fair?? If you want to talk about Bias people then we can talk all day about this...

[roarrasengan3]

Also are you saying that most of the people here are bias??? Most of the people here Bboy themselves... Also if you say that you're too busy Bboyin then you wouldn't bother coming back to argue over something that is so stupid then...

[roarrasengan3]

and if you are a bboy then you should know having flops cause you to lose the battle.. observe 3:48 and and 3:55...

[roarrasengan3]

aznboyeee go look up his trailers.. it pops up around 10 that he won and along with his crew...

[aznboyeeee]

okey, so, whos side u think im really on? lil rocks or borns? becuss u sound like im all about lil rock right now O_O

dude, everybody has different taste, im sure u know that. even though lil rock "FLOPED" to some ppl it still looked dope, and some it didnt. if u know bboying, u shouldent really count the minor "FLOPS" as long as it still looks dope, it has even been said from Crazy Legs from Rock Steady Crew.

[aznboyeeee]

and another thing, i dnt think this subject is stupid. if u know how many "EBOYS" out there, all they do is be Biased! they think born is the SHIT only becuss he's korean, but how about the original bboys who has done all them moves before born has done, and not get as much love? Ever since media commercialized koreans it has always been like, THEIR THE BEST!

but since now we stay true, and stay underground, becuss we learn from passed mistakes, and not too many ppl respect that.

[aznboyeeee]

AND i really dnt care about makin some stupid enemies, becuss im never gunna be close to them anyways, since they dnt even understand wat im trying to say O_O

and if u think im one of the few ppl who pick lil rock over born 2/3. look around, u see some for born and some for lil rock. in my view, more for born, all becuss he's korean, actually i know thats a fact. think about this....

[aznboyeeee]

oh yea, and isnt this an exhibition battle?

means its everyone's unbiased opinions.

[seanyjoony]

lil rock u suck lol born is better !!

[01132480218]

No offence "aznboyeeee" and others with the same opinion as him...but you boys are known as "eboys"!!, this means you just watch battles on the internet give none constructive and rubbish crits (you just talk the talk)!!...the question is, are YOU good? have YOU won any comps and do YOU have style flava and finesse!!...if your answer is no, then just sit back, relax and appretiate 'Born'z and others' talents.

so how do you you like them apple!!

Pz

[aznboyeeee]

if u wunna test me out, ill burn u any day fool.

first of all, ur hella stupid becuss, ur little definition of "EBOY" does not apply to me at all. i dnt even go online often, becuss im busy TRAINING, unlike some of u nut heads who do like to talk shit online all day.

and you hecka judging me without even knowing shit about me, shows ur just a fish choking on sum moose cock.

for ur info fool, i won my share of battles, and i support true hip hop all the way. u callin me an eboy shows ur jus.....

[aznboyeeee]

another ignorant fuck.

[KoffeeNut]

yes you. You fail at life.

[xxlazyboi8o8xx]

yeah son born won because he held his own not cus he's a korean but cus he's just dope with it........BORN!

[roarrasengan3]

aznboyeeee people have respect for Born... he has done incredible things in the past. He won many jams and championships. He made lots of things happen in History. You have to understand that He made things that people never imagined could be done. You have to look from other people's poitn of views...

[aznboyeeee]

sorry for popin ur tire, but, can u name some competitions he had won by himself? and things he did for bboying history? things that have never been done in bboying until he came along?

[ZekeAsakuraX]

"My style, my flava"

I'd say that's a winner

[aznboyeeee]

haha lol =D

[aznboyeeee]

Born is so cliche, nothing really original. so why do alot of u ppl over hype him? and dont tell me becuss he's freakin korean.

this wuz a pretty boring battle, and pretty hard to tell who roasted who.

lets just try to take that stupid korean pride away, and open ur freakin eyes wider guys! and lets be a none biased judge, and say who you really think took the battle.

imagine lil rock as a korean if u have too!

[BOkchOybOy91]

amen bro lol

[KoffeeNut]

you seem to be the only one focusing on the fact that he's korean. So cliche.

[aznboyeeee]

ummm, do u know wat cliche means? becuss from ur sentence, ur just obviously dumb.

go atleast finish middle skool, then start talking crap

[KoffeeNut]

"Becuss."

Spelling correctly is a virtue before you pretend to sound smart shit for brains.

[aznboyeeee]

"Shit"

oh, now ur cursing, shows the lack of vocab u have =P

[KoffeeNut]

also, imagine lil rock not crashing.

[anestech85]

i bet born can beat you! lol

[aznboyeeee]

i bet i can beat you! lol

[anestech85]

blah blah blah...

[deftbeats]

define bboying kid.... let's hear it... born is internationally recognized because he kept the lagacy of the true foundational hiphop within him... he's not famous cause he's Korean, people respect him for his pure skills that is inspired by the Legendary Old schoolers... if he's skill doesn't amaze you still got lot to learn. There's a reason why Born got recruited to Migthy Zulu Kingz... Born took this battle. Learn the history of hiphop and you'll see what I mean...

[DTheAthlete]

word!!!

[deftbeats]

I do agree with you though on how there are so many dickriders out there who judges the battle based on races.....

[mrtytyk]

do u hab my battle rasssch from frankie hope jam

[Tuxley]

born ftw

[xxlazyboi8o8xx]

BORN

[roarrasengan3]

Also if you notice in this battle it looks like both contenders weren't even trying.. -.-....

[roarrasengan3]

Also another thing is Born doesn't need to impress us 24/7.... He is only Human... He is already a Hella Dope Bboy... If one of your idles messed up once will you look that them differently?? If You look at all his other videos then you'll see how much he achieved already....

[roarrasengan3]

..... Does anybody notice the HUGE FLOPES ON 3:50 AND 4:06!!! BboyRobo... I dunno what you are judging, but in a battle if you flop once then that whole round is taken by the opponent...

[BboYFrenzY2]

lil rock u are SUCKS!!!...no RESPECT~

[DARTHFLVA]

naw man your english sucks

lil rock is a legend now way anyone can take that from him so why dont you learn some respect.

[bboytyproductions]

Born was so pissed on his third set.

[niggahpanda]

everyone stfu.

and just watch the damn battle

[hohobojo]

terrible song -_-

how do you expect them to kill the beat

[princeaferd]

personaly both bboys are dope but personaly i think born took it, lil rocks' got some pretty dope footwork but dont think he would be considered better in that aspect than born, plus his style isnt the same as borns, lil rock did what he does but he crashed alot and on some pretty hard falls to at 3:50 lol 3 in a row born was overall more solid in his personal style than lil rock was so i give it to born, but was a good battle dont think it was for a winner but if it was could c it go either way

[ScramzOne]

are you kidding me? born took that 100000%  .. lil rock crashed an entire round, then balanced on his head.. thats bboying?

[bboylazy12345]

3.50,the best part!!!!like it!take a look guys!

[BBOYROBO]

meh... born didnt impress me at all!! He's one of my favs too.. Lil Rock still gots it!

[nzagito]

i thought born didnt even try..

[chris27top]

srsly, born is a the true bboy, HE FREESTYLE, just like in the 2nd round

[Bboyspacifik]

honestly, i think lil rock took dis one...he did mess up in two of his rounds but shyit happens....this crowd was really riding Borns balls..the thing about lil rock is dat he's a old school legend...u guys should really study ur bboy history..Born sort of a new Bboy, and to tell u da truth he always sucks when he faces U.S Bboys...look up Borns battles against some U.S Bboys n u noe wut im talkin bout...no disrespect to any of these Bboys doe..they both have mad skill..

[chris27top]

yea, the crowd is riding borns balls, and thats not his territory..

[riotofdablood]

u bitch its not technical its style

[r00kie104]

lol its not style its foundation( footwrk, character/style, toprock, freeze)

[CarnageR1]

who was the dj? where was blesone? bles is the best bboy dj out there hands down

[jonnythan193]

i think renegade was.

[fr3shfitt]

dude what time did this pop?! i was waiting for lil rock's battle to come on but all that was going on was free style at the time! so i just went to the performance side in the other building!, im so bummed i missed it!

pretty dope ass moves though! lil rock killled ittt! at 3:21

[DirtNasteee]

lil rock took the first round. but besides that born had the rest, lil rock crashed too much,wasnt as good of a battle as i thought it was gonna be though

[jonnythan193]

The crowd was so biased. Everyone cheers liek crazy when born went out for first round. Dont be sucking borns dick. Hes good yeah but it was mad funny when a bunch of kids went up to him in the cyphers asking for a picture. At the end he responded with "cypher man cypher!" Just let em battle it was a sick battle but it was kind of a weird match up.

[dotheojo]

i understand what youre saying and i laughed when i heard him tell those kids he wanted to cypher but you gotta think about how often does a bboy legend come from korea? i mean i was crazy too when i saw casper and machine but you gotta remember these arent guys you see at your local jams every month.

[jonnythan193]

he didnt come all the way from korea to take pictures with kids he doesnt even know. Give him the respect by gettin down and dancing in the cypher. Dont make yourself lower just cause its born. And i dont think born is a legend...

[hangguy209]

agreed

[r00kie104]

iam not going to lie i jumped in and asked for his signature, liek the rest of those kids. hes a hero, icon etc. some1 you would rarely see in person. its not bad to ask for pictures, but dang i gatta say jumping in the cyphers with him was enlightening

[bboyxippei]

born could have done better but i like how he goes in for another round lol

[Criap]

lil rock killed it!

[chris27top]

how? he crashed on his 2 sets.

[Criap]

I know but i still think he was better then born.

[lextersigge]

yeah i miss born's ownage. Maybe the beat sucked. Monotonous.

[mrtytyk]

rookie

[r00kie104]

ya?

[r00kie104]

i saw this live, it was cool seeing Born in LA for the first time in person and everything, but the way he battled didnt seem like he was even making an effort, Born danced but it wasnt him.

[BboyMach1]

Ok so look i was there to and talked to him right after the battle, the thing is that music sucked it was bullshit! Bboy Born is all about beats and hitting the hard crazy ones, but that dj was dishing out some piece of shit music! the other white dj was playing waaayyy better music but he left, if they put some reall music bboy born wouldve killed it even more than he already did, plus Lil Rock is a disrespectfull arrogant asshole a true bboy like born is respectful and humble thats why he won!

[bboyhuesos]

Shut up man ur not in thier shoes wtf do you know whenever born battles someone from USA he always sucks ass take a look foo look up born and casper alot of people thinks he holds back but wtf if he holds back then how is he gonna get any wins against thats y casper killed it face it borns gone soft he needs to step it up

[r00kie104]

it doesnt matter if the music sucked man being a bboy is conveying what ever the dj throws at you , the fact that he played music that u never heard b4 makes u actually listen to ALL the instruments and see how the bboys battling use it and dance to it, i dont see how the music was bad it was stuff i never hard b4 but it wasnt bad

[Bboyspacifik]

fo real, da thing about being a bboy is to learn to lose urself in wut ever type of musik dat ur given...a gud dancer, dances to any type of music..

[BboyMach1]

Thats true i know what you mean but the music had nothing to read nothing to hit to, it was plain old solid 2by2 beats, like a freakin gay dance club song or some shit i mean at least put like a Bboy's Battle song were the beat actually changes, but yeah...

[BboyMach1]

(to bboyhuesos) Man like if ure in their shoes, he did get his ass handed to him by casper but all bboys have lost once in their life, he didnt hold back he just got pist cuz they put that shity ass music , i mean the whole night they had baddass music and then when the most important battle comes on they put that shit , i mean CMON! he came all da way from Korea! SHit!