Todd Bentley was a false prophet and wolf in sheep's clothing from the get go, and Joyner wants to "restore" him? Todd Bentley should have been exposed in the beginning. Apparently the reason Rick Joyner won't do this is because he's just like him. Hirelings they are. Beware Jesus warned you.
ah... david was also exposed by a prophet. not protecting todd here..but just saying. And I saw a video where todd did repend by saying he was wrong.... i´m not the judge of his heart and you shouldn´t be too. There are other things about rick that smells more. like he´s a catholic knight, if you didn´t know yet...
@svenkrue84 but after all: what he´s saying about better ebing a false prophet than being judging ppl is totally bull#### (pardon) that´s really manipulating and slap into every believers face who knows the word. don´t waste ur precios time with this self called leaders praising themselves....
This man is totally wrong!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Why? Because the Bible says that David did REPENT and still had to take the consecvenses of his sin with Batseba. But Todd "false prophet" Bentley has NOT REPENTED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! He has left his first wife and is a adulterer. And according to the Bible he will end up in hell if he don't repent and go back to his WIFE
@Catari777 Luk 16:18 Every one that putteth away his wife, and marrieth another, committeth adultery: and he that marrieth one that is put away from a husband committeth adultery.
@Catari777 Luk 16:18 Every one that putteth away his wife, and marrieth another, committeth adultery: and he that marrieth one that is put away from a husband committeth adultery.
@Catari777 1Co 6:9Or know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate,nor abusers of themselves with men,
1Co 6:10 nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.
1Co 6:11And such were some of you: but ye were washed, but ye were sanctified, but ye were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ,and in the Spirit of our God.
@Catari777 Rom 7:2 For the woman that hath a husband is bound by law to the husband while he liveth; but if the husband die, she is discharged from the law of the husband.
Rom 7:3 So then if, while the husband liveth, she be joined to another man, she shall be called an adulteress: but if the husband die, she is free from the law, so that she is no adulteress, though she be joined to another man.
That means if He dont repent and turn from his sin he WILL END UP IN HELL ACCORDING TO JESUS!
@Catari777 And BTW JESUS DONT GIVE MERCY IF WE DONT REPENT FROM OUR SIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
1Jn 1:5 And this is the message which we have heard from him and announce unto you, that God is light, and in him is no darkness at all.
1Jn 1:6 If we say that we have fellowship with him and walk in the darkness, we lie, and do not the truth:
1Jn 1:7 but if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another,and the blood of Jesus his Son cleanseth us from all sin.
@Catari777 Mat 7:21 "Not everyone who keeps saying to me, 'Lord, Lord,' will get into the kingdom from heaven, but only the person who keeps doing the will of my Father in heaven.
Tit 1:16 They claim to know God, but they deny him by their actions.
1Jn 5:18 We know that the person who has been born from God does not go on sinning. Rather, the Son of God protects them, and the evil one cannot harm them. That is HE CAN FALL IN SIN BUT CANT STAY LIVING IN THE SIN!!!
the mercy you give.....will be givento you......Jesus said ,let him who is without sin cast the first stone......im so glad God shows me mercy every day......
Mr. Vinnie, your Bible understanding is much poor. Of course Gal 6:1 has everything to do with fallen Ministries. You can not understand that because you are leaking love and compassion, not to make mention of wisdom. I am sure, you started a battle with the wrong people.
Sure was Todd weird in his customs and he made a big mistake staying a long period of time, weeks, away from his wife while he was ministering in Lakeland but there in the tent was the presence of God much perceptible, a fact.
Sorry but people are watching and listening to famous Pastors to see if they are living what they preach to others. The bible said be sure your sins will be found out and what is done in the dark will come to light!
You accuse people of gossip but sorry many People are watching celebrities and famous Pastors if they can't stand the heat and glare of the spotlight then they can sit in the pew and be a spectator like the rest of us average Joe's. They are famous because people are interested in them. So your gossip accusation does not fly!
You accuse people of gossip but sorry are watching celebrities and famous Pastors if they can't stand the heat and glare of the spotlight then they can sit in the pew and be a spectator like the rest of us average Joe's. They are famous because people are interested in them. So your gossip accusation does not fly!
Jesus said they will say Lord didn't I prophecy in your name and cast out devils in your name and he will say depart from me I never knew you workers of iniquity.
Not naming names just saying don't confuse the message with the messenger because they are not always the same!
Little wonder why so many Atheist and unsaved people doubt if anyone is really living the Christian life behind closed doors. Jesus name is being mocked every time a scandal of a well known public Christian hits the news. It makes it ten times harder to share the Gospel and not get laughed to scorn because they think everybody is a fake!
I agree with Rick J that we all have sinned and have fallen short. I believe the Church is like a hospital for the sin sick soul to come and get well and be made whole but I disagree with Joyner that the sin of a Leaders/Pastors adultery can be made light of( in that it can just be overlooked). Pastors have NO business in the Pulpit if they are spiritually terminally ill themselves. Sit down until you get spiritually well then you can lead by example and not come off as a big phony hypocrite!
Paul the Apostle described a Christian's journey as a race where there would be a crown for those who finish well. Even if you are saved you may lose your rewards for your labor or be disqualified. Sorry but Todd did not run well.
When Pastors commit adultery they not only cheat on their wives but on their faithful members who look up to them.
Rick J. said King David did worst but did U mention God told King David the sword would never leave his house & his first born son died?
"You know that we who teach will be judged more severely"
I was in 3 Christian Churches in a row where all 3 Pastors admitted to adulterous affairs.It caused a Church split. 2 out of 3 refused to be held accountable or repair the marriage. None of these Churches has recovered. Some weaker members backslid and never went back to any church to date because they had placed these Pastors on thrones as if they were infallible and God.They must Lead by example or not at all!
For the truth about religion & top Bible scholarship try Robert M. Price, ' The reason driven life '. Also Dan Barker, Valerie Tarico, John W. Loftus, Victor J. Stenger. For humanity's shared moral core & belief in Matt 7v12 The Golden Rule try wisdomcommons. Also try comparative religion- read the 1500BCE papyrus of Ani & the Koran & Book of Mormon on skepticsannotatedbible. No one would give credence to such writings except for psychological conditioning by peer pressure & threats of hell.
Joyner is a Knight of Malta and a voice for the false prophet in America; the whole NAR network could be classified as the false prophet of Revelation 13 - it is rising out of the earth now.
@SpaceAboveSky So you seem to be more upset over someone using the blowing of a trumpet than adultery in the pulpit which causes the body of Christ to be laughed to scorn and makes it ten times harder to get people to come to Church to hear the Gospel when invited they think we all are fakes!
@SpaceAboveSky Any public figure in the limelight runs the risk of being in the glare of the spot light when they mess up and get involve in gross sin. Don't spend your time growing a mega church and want big crowds if you can't stand the fact that people are interested in the lives of celebrities- that is what makes them celebrities!
sorry, if Todd was truly repentant. Why didn't he stop his affair and ask the Lord to restore his marriage? Instead without shame he left his wife for the woman he was cheating with.
that you had the curriage to post this!!! i warn you my friend in love! this thing Christ would never ever had done! and to the act by posting this i say: shame on you!! but you as person i love, read and study on luke 3 !
Todd's sin is excused but we point a finger at powerless Presidents like Obama and question his Christianity while divorce and porn addiction is out of control among in the Church world! Does anyone know what Rick Joyner had to say about Bill Clinton's infidelities? I heard Rick Joyner preach against sin in America on another utube video so this is completely different ! Who is holding our Christian leaders accountable. Pastors should lead by example or not lead at all!
Fakeland Revival. I read the "Final Quest". There is nothing Biblical about it. I believe people today can receive dreams and visions, but they would not be New Age and contradict the Bible like Rick Joyner's dreams do.
People read your Bible and let God speak to you not Rick Joyner, Benny Hinn, Todd Bently etc... It becomes obvious. If you need convinced the Bible is indeed to be taken seriously check out "NWO 2012 Agenda" and compare it with what you're King James Version Bible says. That would just scratch the surface. Beware of these wolves in sheep's clothing. The remedy is God's word.
Why don't you get a LIFE Vinnie, and instead of spending your time picking other people apart, START PREACHING THE SAVING GOSPEL OF JESUS CHRIST???
All you are doing is giving the enemies of God MORE reason to blaspheme. Give it up and if you are so right in your own eyes, leave others alone. "Who art thou that judgest another man's servant? To his own master he standeth or falleth" (Paul)
If you find this "error" then Matthew 5 and 6 (Jesus himself speaking) you might want to see how and what Jesus said. Personally, I am still working on the line "Be perfect as your Father is". Just a thought.
When a prophet was caught in sin, and prophecying falsely, he was stoned to death. Explain the upside down Jesus tattoo Todd has with the monkey in his beard and the word Omni? Explain why a man after being saved for years would spend over $10k in over a month to get so many tattoos on his body? Explain how the church should ignore his sexual transgression which led him to jail at the age of 14yrs? Explain why we should ignore his sleeping with the nanny while still married? Luciferian implant
@Conservmom Stoning false prophets was done in the Old Testament times. We don't do that these days and there is a big difference between a false prophet and a prophet who goes astray and needs correction. A false prophet deliberately misleads people. Anyone can go astray and fall down. Jesus did not come to condemn the world, but to save it, or so He said. Maybe you got new information. Nobody ignored his transgression. He was delt with, repented and was restored as is supposed to happen.
You said in the video that David fell but Todd was exposed. David committed adultery and then tried to hide it by getting Uriah to sleep with Bathsheba. When Uriah wouldn't do it he covered it up by having Uriah killed. Then the prophet Nathan, or rather God by Nathan, exposed David and his conspiracy. Why can't you compare Todd with David. In fact, more was known of Todd by the people around Todd who pulled away from him ie Canadian Freshfire Ministry, and forced him to resign. David concealed
By him being exposed is good for him maybe the LORD did this to tell him to wake up and repent because the lord is merciful like that. He moves in ways we dont understand God show us it seems like unlimited grace and mercy we should do the same in return with others. that's exactly what happened to the woman who the jews caught in the act and brought her to Jesus to tempt him and jesus wrote on the ground and everybody left. if she can be forgiving by Jesus so can todd be forgiving.
To be a true christian is to forgive my brethren. Jesus said we should forgive 70 times 7. if God acted like we acting towards him we would all be dead. because we all sin and fall short to the glory God. Ask yourself when the last time you all sinned. and when u sinned should the church treat you how you treating Todd Bently and be honest with your self. because the fact of the matter is sin is sin. what counts is when you sin no matter if you got caught or not did you repent and keep moving.
@Rontvega1 It is true that we are to forgive, but we're not to simply "forgive" false doctrine, we are to expose it for what it is. Todd is in a teaching position--he is telling other people what to believe. If he's telling them things that are false, we cannot simply sweep it under the rug and say we'll just forgive him. That's ludicrous!
They only have value because you make them as such. I think your God would call that idolatry. I am going to go with Matthew 7: 21-23 Wanna join em? Keep it up.
Ya know folks, the fellow who put this together is trying to help you stop and question the reason and motive behind self indulging edifiers. And to that end I will go one further. These types are trying to take you captive through their vain imaginations. Their importance in your daily life is nil. Listening to them make proclamations does not get your lawn mowed, or fix your truck. In short, they are of no value. The only have value cause you take your time to make them as such.
So let me get this right. This fellow with the white hair is the press boy for an exposed charlatan. Theatrical manipulation for the weak minded to render coins from their middle and low class wages. Let me toss this one by you. Shut off your television and computer for about one year. When you turn it back on, new lying wonders will be ready to relieve you of your cash and take your good sense captive again.
Religion simply rots the minds of the believers! I think it is time we all admit this & grow up! Humanity has made great strides forward in the past 200-300yrs it religion had NOTHING to do with it! Rational thinking had everything to do with it! Time to start THINKING!!
@Keruaran If you want to credit religion simply for the fact the very very early people looking for answers were doing so to try & support the Bible then we both know that is WEAK! Even when you put aside the FACT the Church was killing people along the way for doing so. The fact is the more these knowledge seekers learned the more they realized the Bible was flawed! So, what was your point?
@Keruaran Since we both know you are, well, lets say, BULLSHITTING...Or at least that I won't call your bluff! And I was just going to ignore but it is Friday & I am bored...So, lets test each others knowledge of history.Please tell me what religion has contributed to the modern age that has nothing to with the Humanities...If you are not sure what I am talking about take the time to educate yourself & look it up. I will be waiting to hear what religion & how it helped bring us modernity...
You are full of bluster and hubris. Except for this:
"Please tell me what religion has contributed to the modern age that has nothing to with the Humanities"
But sadly, this is an attempt at a loaded question that fails simply becuase it is a false dichotomy. The Humanities is a very big umbrella you can put a whole lot of things under yet with no reason to presuppose antagonism to religion, quite the contrary.
it says on your video that David fell and that Todd was exposed......Well wasn't david exposed? Thats why Nathan the Prophet went to confront him of it. David refused to admit his sin for something like 18 months and didn't confess it as sin until Nathan called him out on it. check out 2 samuel 12
@jcgresham54 I have answered this question several times before, if you look back in the comments you will find my response. Thank you, Love in Christ....:-)
Wow some Joyner hater made a rather ignorant video. God is a God of second chances. He will judge us, it is not up to the maker of this video to judge Rick Joyner or Todd Bently.
You filthy liberal vermin. You've taken God out of our schools and put homosexuality into it. Get out of my country. This is the United States of America. We don't want you here, filthy vermin scumbags. Get out of my country. You've destroyed my country, you've been doing this for 40 years. GET THE HELL OUT!!!!!!!!!!!!
@graceexplosion Yes, and us militant homosexual mafia activists are forcing our way into YOUR children's school and forcing children as young as 5 to engage in gay orgies in public toilets. We consider it a "teachable moment." Matt Barber says so. Never mind the fact that this is bullshit, you'll believe it because you want to. You've been taught from a young age to reject facts as a matter of faith. You don't really care what the facts are, you're going to spout your bullshit regardless.
@TheIntolerantAtheist Takes a lot of faith to be an atheist. You have to believe, as a human being, "you're it" -- the greatest power in the universe. Quite pride-filled when you think about it.
@graceexplosion No, I believe that Myrna, the pink unicorn is my Lord and Saviour. How do I know that Myrna, the pink unicorn is Lord and Saviour? My scripture, which is the word of Myrna, the pink unicorn tells me so. How do I know this is the word of Myrna, the pink unicorn? Myrna, the pink unicorn says so. Worshipping Myrna, the pink unicorn is the one true path to heaven, and when an earthquake occurs it's Myrna's punishment for not worshipping them enough. Myrna is a jealous God.
@graceexplosion I'm an atheist because there is absolutely NO evidence that there is any God that created the universe, let alone the God of the Bible who hates homosexuals and demands worship and will send you to HELL to burn screaming in agony FOREVER!!!!!!!!! Simply because you didn't spend your life worshipping this horrific monster of the ancient Judean desert. I better believe OR ELSE. Catholics send me messages saying I'll go to hell if I don't join their religion, Muslims say the same.
@TheIntolerantAtheist God doesn't want religion he wants relationship. Get to know God. God doesn't hate sinners he hates sin. People go to hell because they refuse to turn away from sin. Heaven or hell it is solely your choice. God won't force you to get to know him but he wants you to. Jesus died so you don't have to go to hell but if you refuse to repent you will go to hell. God doesn't want you to go to hell DON'T GO TO HELL
@godapproved So you're a self-appointed expert in what the imaginary deity of the ancient Judean desert wants? Why is this God so obsessed with hating these "sins" of human beings of planet earth, many of which are harmless functions of basic human nature? Why would I want to respect this vile God of the desert who kills a group of 42 children for calling a man "bald head"? Respect is earned, and from what I've read of the God of the Bible, this is one sick twisted character.
@TheIntolerantAtheist Funny you say respect is earned but you hypocritically start off by insulting me YOU don't know God neither do you understand his word and judging by your response you have no intent in understanding You are a sinner trying to judge a righteous God You don't know what righteousness is because you are in darkness to you evil is good and good is evil which is why you continue in sin and criticize a God you don't know You can choose to repent and get to know God or be judged
@godapproved A righteous God who commands that you stone your own children to death if they suggest you worship other deities? Why does this God need human beings to worship him so much? People don't get their morals from Gods, but religion can be used to make good people do evil things. Look at the Westboro Baptist church. If you take this God at his word you can be just like him: a vicious, heartless monster and feel GOOD about it.
@TheIntolerantAtheist there you go again calling evil good Rather than capitalize on the fact that people worship false gods you point out the people who would remove those who practice such evil acts by stoning them to death because for you its ok if people worship false gods You categorize sin God is righteous so he judges all sin Jesus died so that no man has to die physically or spiritually Your sins are forgiven through the cross if you confess and forsake your sin westboros r nt christian
@godapproved All Gods are false. There isn't a single shred of evidence that any of these Gods exist, and people who are indoctrinated into any particular religion always accuse people indoctrinated into other religions false. Why would your God think that the best way to take away your sins is to have himself impregnated into a virgin and sacrificed to himself in the most remote, least enlightened and least literate area of bronze-age Palestine?
@TheIntolerantAtheist to say there is no evidence is proof you didn't look whether or not you believe the evidence is proof is a different story you are just as much indoctrinated by atheism as I am in christianity indoctrination isn't the issue, a closed heart is. you are intolerant to those who are intolerant towards sin and you tolerate sin which it should be the other way around Your comments show this don't just type comments on youtube get to know God I double-dog dare you!
@godapproved Most atheists were once theists. We used logic and reason and realized religion is a man-made absurdity. Atheism is simply a lack of a belief in God. I won't believe in any Gods unless there's evidence for these Gods. Worshipping Gods is an entirely different story. Why do these Gods always need human beings to worship them? This is a universal characteristic of all Gods. Christianity is as absurd to me as Hinduism is to you.
@TheIntolerantAtheist God wants to speak to you but your sin and iniquity separate you From the God who loves you because he is Holy God is worthy of praise because he is Good and God is Love Because God is Holy and righteous he must put an end to sin Hell was created for the devil and his angels anyone who rejects God is sent to hell Hell wasn't created for you but if you reject God you will know what the absence of God is (Hell) Repent of your sins and ask god to reveal himself with sincerity
@TheIntolerantAtheist Study the Bible. The words for "time" in the Bible related to punishment in the ORIGINAL LANGUAGE state "age". This means a time period of UNSPECIFIED duration. One must be a theologian to know how long hell lasts. According to the Bible, in the ORIGINAL LANGUAGE, Satan is destroyed at the return of Jesus Christ. Thus, all evil is destroyed -- including death and hell. All unbelievers are thus wholly purified -- and recreated anew on the Last Day by Jesus.
@TheIntolerantAtheist P.S. If Jesus had not died on the cross -- "hell" would have been for time without end and no one would have been saved and recreated anew. If you are an atheist on the last day -- it will be because you were UNABLE to believe during this lifetime... so, of course, then if you are unable to believe -- having a will -- you choose not to believe as the result of inability to believe. The two are one. Jesus died to destroy Satan and all evil and to ransom all mankind.
@TheIntolerantAtheist You're an incredibly rude, miserable, mean, nasty in your presentation. This is what atheism produces. I am telling you what the scripture state. No one can "make you" believe. That you cannot believe is your dilemma -- not my responsibility. I am telling you what the scriptures state. That is factual. To believe or not to believe is a personal matter. If you want the scripture, I can give you the scripture. But no one but God can give you faith in them.
@graceexplosion Being mean and rude are human reactions towards particular situations. I don't mean to be rude to you. Atheism causes rudeness and meanness? What about when I go to the beach and there are a group of religious zealots there with megaphones telling everyone they're going to hell and calling provacatively-dressed women "whores" or people drinking alcohol "drunkards?" Only religion can cause people to do that. And once again, how is scripture fact or the word of God?
@TheIntolerantAtheist Perhaps your mother raised you to be rude and told you that it was acceptable. (I doubt it.) It is not. No one is "yelling at you" here and bothering you while you are recreating. You have chosen of your own volition to engage in a discussion in a clear religious posting. So you have gravitated to this venue. Politeness and courtesy would be appreciated. We all have a religious opinion. Everyone does. You have an opinion called "atheism".
@TheIntolerantAtheist Whether one accepts the Word of Gd as the Word of God depends on faith. The scripture of The Holy Bible clearly claims to be Divinely Inspired, God-breathed, and God speaking His Word through men to us. This is a claim you would have to evaluate. The only way you could believe this claim truly in living power is by God revealing this to you. Therefore, we are discussing not the natural but the supernatural.
@graceexplosion No, whether or not one accept the word of the God they were indoctrinated into from BIRTH depends on what religion you were born into. The Holy Bible claims to be divinely inspired just as the Koran and the Hindi book The Vedas, which are responsible for people who are not ever allowed out of the class system they're born into due to the fact they're supposed to be reincarnated, evil people being reincarnated as poor people good reincarnated as rich folk.
@TheIntolerantAtheist I wasn't indoctrinated into Christianity. When I was 3, someone read me the story of Solomon. In that story, Solomon asks God for wisdom and God gives it to him. I got alone with God, lifted my eyes to Heaven and cried from my heart, "God give me wisdom like you gave Solomon!" Immediately, God took me to Heaven, told me the story of Creation, the fall of man, and showed me Jesus. I saw Jesus face to face in Heaven's glory. That's how I became a Christian.
@graceexplosion Obviously God didn't give you wisdom. You live in an imaginary world that's always about to end where Barack Obama is he anti-Christ because he doesn't pander to Christian Dominionists, a world of talking snakes, faith healings, a global flood and a 6,000 year-old earth, none of which is real. Good news is bad news to you. If the crime rate increases, that's good news because it means Jesus will return that much sooner.
@TheIntolerantAtheist You have a "paradigm". You have a perspective based upon the knowledge that is within you. You need to learn boundaries. Speak for yourself. You can say, "I don't believe in Jesus". But you presume too much to say that because Jesus is not in you that He is not in me. Jesus lives in me. In my salvation, the glory and Divine Love of God -- His Spirit -- exploded from His heart to mine. He has lived in me ever since. God is Spirit. God's Love is what matters.
@TheIntolerantAtheist Divine Inspiration: 2 Peter 1:20Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation. 21For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost. 2 Timothy 3:16All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: 17That the man of God may be perfect, thoroughly furnished unto all good works.
@graceexplosion So you're quoting scripture to prove scripture? That's EXACTLY the same as quoting Harry Potter to prove Harry Potter. I get EXACTLY the same thing from Muslims trying to convert me, because, after all, if I don't convert to THEIR version of THEIR religion I'm going to HELL.
@TheIntolerantAtheist I'm not threatening you. You're not being blackmailed. If you jump off a 1000 foot building -- you will plunge to your death. That's a fact that you can understand because it is a natural fact. Honestly, I couldn't care less whether you believe in Jesus or don't. My view is that God is Sovereign and in control of all things. So, if you go to hell until Jesus returns -- that's between you and God. I will answer your questions, but your destiny is not my responsibility
to the woman caught committing adultery, jesus himself said, "i do not condemn you. go now and leave your life of sin." his kindness is liberating. his grace is scandalous, and has been displayed as so throughout the bible, both in old and new testaments.
Zionism NOT the works of God but those of the Antichrist, synagogue of satan. Nor are the "Jews" in Zionism from the seed of David or Moses or Abraham or Jesus. They are a forgery of Khazarian decent. They are a fake - an imitation chosen by Lucifer. They are NOT the descendants of the 12 tribes of Israel. Nor has the true Israel been established at the right time. Israel IS COUNTERFEIT!
"Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues".
I think Joyer and Bently are both anti-christ and should not be allowed to preach- I feel sickened by theses evil wolves that ravaged the sick and vunerable sheep.
bently and that wolf are fornicators with ppl souls and wallets for filthy lucre sake. Fornicators! Let them near your heart Again to what? Fornicate again the willing and open and ignorrant sheep they already raveged? bently is an adulerer typical sex starved man. NO WAY should he be allowed up on stage again to do more of his punk bully sorcery antics.
Galatians 6 1BRETHREN, IF any person is overtaken in misconduct or sin of any sort, you who are spiritual [who are responsive to and controlled by the Spirit] should set him right and restore and reinstate him, without any sense of superiority and with all gentleness, keeping an attentive eye on yourself, lest you should be tempted also.
@Cycles28 "Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause divisions and OFFENCES contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and avoid them." (Rom 16:17)
"Then said he unto the disciples, It is impossible but that OFFENCES will come: but woe unto him, through whom they come!" (Luke 17:1)
Hay bro 1. take away the annoying horns, 2. take away the annoying words they would make a better window than a door, if you wish to say something put tags in so we can put if off so we can watch it properly.
@Cycles28 The horns are a warning sound that the enemy is approaching, they stay! The "annoying words" as you call them is my response to Joyner, they stay also. I don't wish to say something, I did say something and as far as I see it, you did watch it properly by hearing two sides of the coin. Thank you for your comments friend, but if all your getting from this video is annoyed and a need to make sarcastic remarks maybe you should try another video, something that tickles your ears maybe?
This Rick Joyner guy is a devil. He was born a jew and converted to Christianity to try and destroy it. He located himself in North Carolina because he felt it was the heart of the Bible belt. He tells people to 'lighten' up on Bible teachings, and is telling his followers to get ready for the war. Unfortunately, his followers don't realize they are part of the New World Order army and will seek to destroy Christians everywhere.
@Josh8753 Rick Joyner also SAYS he has teamed up with the Knights of Malta, but he has not. He made up his own little group he calls the Knights of Malta; they are not the real Knights. He wants to make fools of Christians.
David fell and Todd was exposed ? IF I remember right David was exposed by Nathan. David didn't repent until Nathan prophesied to him about the lamb and Nathan told David that he was the man. I never was one for Todd Bentley or his doctrine and the way he prayed for people and many other things but neither do I think it is right to build up one man to tear down another.
rick joyner is one sicke son of a bitch!!! how dare he lie to desperate terminally ill ppl telling them they're healed. this bastard sat there and encouraged a little kid to try and "heal" some one by praying over them. sick fuck!!! its times like this that i wish there was a hell set aside for him, todd bently, benny hinn and all the other fuckers who capitalize on the defenseless through religion. smmfh.
I feel ashamed for even listening to this. I wish I could remove my number from the view counter. The time that was put into bashing these guys. Shameful. One thing that David chose to not do was sit in the seat of the scornful. I will not cast judgement on these men. I know Rick Joyner to be a man with many wonderful insights. The passion he has for the Lord is sincere. When I listen to someone, I listen for truth to be revealed through him. Listen for the message, not the messenger.
@this1s4jc Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light and so are his ministers, from what you say if his message sounds good you receive it? without considering where it came from? (2 Cor.11:14) "For ye suffer fools gladly, seeing ye yourselves are wise." (2 Cor.11:19) "For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ. Do you also accuse Paul of casting judgment? If I was you I would feel ashamed too, for turning from the truth.
@vinnieActs2030 I just don't want to bash a brother in Christ when there are so few of us these days. I believe that God has used those men to lead many people to Christ. I can't imagine being in the spotlight the way that those men are. I thank Christ that I'm saved because it's only by his Grace. I have'nt seen or heard them do anything that I can judge them for. I'm careful what I say so as to not offend the Holy Spirit of God and I try to pray for those who are lost or less fortunate than I.
@this1s4jc I understand your not wanting to offend the Holy Spirit, but Jesus himself commended the Ephesians for trying the words and life of those who said they were apostles and were not. Don't ever be afraid to do the things Jesus taught us. "I know thy works, and thy labour, and thy patience, and how thou canst not bear them which are evil: and thou hast tried them which say they are apostles, and are not, and hast found them liars:" (Rev 2:2)
@this1s4jc "Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world." (1Jn 4:1) John tells us to try the spirits, there is no offense in that. These men like Joyner, Todd Bentley, John Crowder and many more count on that fear you have, they just want you to beleive every word they say. The scriptures tell us different, John don't want us to do that, and Jesus for sure don't want us to do that. Love & Peace..:-)
Nice scripture choice on David's punishment. God comes through by killing his innocent sons, pretty typical. I know, I know... we don't understand the ways of God. Try that in the 21st century, have God kill innocent children for the sins of their father. Bet that would go over real well.
Sadly Mr. Joyner is a proven false prophet. Mr Bentley is a pathological liar whom the Lord in His mercy towards the church exposed. The reason the followers of these men cannot discern the truth about them is because they are sitting under judgement because they love not the truth and have been given what their itching ears wish to hear. Any true Christian will do well to avoid them lest you share in their condemnation.
was there ever a time in rick joyners life where he was a true follower of christ or not? todd bentley can serve in the church but he can no longer be a minister or a pastor.
and why does todd have alot of tatooes? in the bible it also has something to say about what not to do to your body.
Vinnie you forgot one verse Matt 6:15, guess you didn't look that one up before you made this misleading video. all your videos has one theme, un-forgivness. your not one of those who thinks we are saved by works are you, that if a man sins once, oh crap it's over, i'm sorry did I offend you with the use of the word crap, get over it because unless you repent of your un-forgivness it will be you burning in hell not me for saying "crap" to offend a religious type.
@jackbartolli51 Ephesians 5: 11-12 says to expose the "unfruitful works of darkness" NOT to go around exposing "evil" ministers. Jesus exposed the sin but he had love and compassion for the people. How do you know Todd Bentley was saved or not?
@71yes71 You've got to be kidding! Do NOT expose evil ministers? Evil ministers produce unfruitful works of darkness. 2 Corinthians 11:13 warns that evil ministers are "...false apostles, deceitful workers, disguising themselves as apostles of Christ." Philippians 3:2 warns Christians to "Beware of the dogs, beware of the evil workers..." In Matthew chapter 23, Jesus called evil scribes and Pharisees "hypocrites" and "blind guides" and a "brood of vipers". Study the Bible--in context.
@71yes71 Jesus Christ is our greatest example of love and compassion, but He offended virtually everyone in His day, and He still does. The evil and false teachers of Jesus' day hated him, because He told the truth in love, and He instructed His apostles to do the same. Truth is offensive. The gospel is offensive. And, to those who do not know Jesus as Lord and Savior, He is offensive. Study your Bible. Learn about Jesus. Then, you won't be deceived by the false "Jesus" (Galatians 1:6-9).
@71yes71 Todd Bentley is not saved because he serves and worships a false "Jesus" and preaches a false gospel. Go to Christian Research Service dot com and click on "The Prophetic Movement" in the menu. Scroll down to the article "Todd Bentley: Preaching the Gospel 'Won't Win Souls'". Pay close attention to what Todd Bentley says about the gospel and God. Then, if you need further assistance, contact me in my YouTube account.
Dear VinnieActs2030.. I have watched this video now.. But what I do not understand is all the commeries you have added... why make it worse than it already is. And people have discernments as well... In His Care . Inge Lyck, Denmark
I definately believe in not turning your back on someone b/c they have fallen from Grace and sinned. If God doesn't do that who are we to be so unmerciful and ungracious. BUT...my issue here is not that Joyner refuses to turn his back on his brother for sinning, the issue is that he supports the blasphemy that comes from Todd's mouth. Joyner needs to sit down w/him and help Bentley get his beliefs straight!
That's terrible!!! He's not supposed to do that...somewhere in Corinthians paul explains that if man divorces his wife that he can't get remarried or be with another person but only to be reconciled with the marriage. Can you post me the link to this guy? Is there any bad word on Rick joyner here?
@Matice21 Levi and by the way I like that name it speaks of priesthood, which we actually are, a royal priesthood :-) Anyway, there are lots of links to Bentley, just Google him, the links are endless, as far as Joyner is concerned I tried to get it across in this video that he blames the innocent body of Christ if they aren't swallowing Bentley's version of things, although I may have fallen way short of my goal, I think the point is there, do some homework, there is plenty concerning Joyner.
@Matice21 Seeking out the truth and trying the spirits is what Jesus wants us to do, not to just beleive every claim and every teaching that comes down the pike, as a matter of fact Jesus commends those for trying those that claim to be apostles and are not, Pleas read Revelations 2:2 "I know thy works, and thy labor, and thy patience, and how thou canst not bear them which are evil: and thou hast tried them which say they are apostles, and are not, and hast found them liars:"
@vinnieActs2030 Amen! We are to test the spirits. Truth is there is STILL so much junk in the Body of Christ. THIS is the reason America is in the state of immorality, the CHURCH is being purged. I will say this, I THANK GOD HE HAD GRACE for ME when I was LOST, with no one to help me. Since coming to Jesus have I fallen, YES! But like King David, God alone knows the heart of a man. As a warrior, im not moved by a brother or sister who falls short. Todd doesn't have to answer to us.
@Matice21 That is the problem with our nation (the holy nation within the nation called America). The Ekklessia (Government of God, Parliament of God in the earth, Church) IS A MESS. We have sown to the wind and are reaping the whirl wind. However, by the grace of God there would go I. True, he should not have remarried but let us pray for him. Our ENTIRE NATION has turned from our Lord. We who are strong in the Lord (Fathers) should help a fallen one.
@Matice21 Today is Election Day. This is the day the Christians BETTER get out and VOTE! People are so concerned with Todd, HOW ABOUT AMERICA falling to the darkest darkness and lose her place in HIS STORY? DID YOU ALL VOTE TODAY? IF NOT, THAT IS THE GREATER SIN.
This whole video Fails....Yes we reap what we sow but thats only when youre under the law & before Christ, everyone was under it! So believers of Christ can repent & bussiness as usual!!! Getcha facts right fam
@vinnieActs2030 You right, we do reap what we sow...not gonna lie about that becuz an ex-murderer can't expect to get off the hook just becuz he got saved...but as a Christian, I failed alot of times. But I keep going though & I also get stronger thru each fight. Where do it says in the bible that I should stop?
@Matice21 I have failed at times too, but repentance means to "turn away" as long as we don't continue to do the same things over and over again until it becomes a lifestyle we will grow and we will get stronger, but if we like Bentley continue to lie, and spread heresy and say we have repented, we only deceive ourselves, keep in mind what Jesus said, "Bring forth therefore fruits worthy of repentance..." Luke 3:8 Todd's adultery is just an outward expression of his continued inward error.
@vinnieActs2030 So this guy is trying to tell us that we only have to repent only once? If we Christians sinned against God while trying to walk in righteousness, then we have to repent & ask God for forgiveness. Where did he say that at? In this video or the book/audio cd?
@Matice21 No, what Todd is doing and did is, live a lifestyle of sin, but tries and convinces the world that it's ok. He teaches heresy, he openly lies, he kicked his wife and 3 children to the curb and while he was actually doing all these things by day, he was claiming that he was raising the dead by night! This aught not to be!, repenting and moving on is one thing, but God using you to raise the dead and heal the sick while your sleeping with a staff member is another! It's just wrong!
God has grace...all men fall...even you vinnie...your life isnt over when you mess up you reap the consequences and you move on with strength knowing what not to do again...look at jonah he ran from God disobeyed him than the whale spit him out and he led one of the most evil cities back to God.
@dotcalls I agree 100% dotcalls, but shall we continue to live in heresy, lies and pride and say it's ok, God loves me? Shall we abuse the grace that God has given us? Todd didn't just make a little mistake, he lives a lifestyle of sin and claims to be equal with King David. This is not the first time Bentley has done what he has done and besides everything else he has never turned from his heresy and false teachings. The real sad part about all this he puts quilt on the innocent...very sad.
I was a part of Morningstar Ministries for a few years- the best thing I ever did was to get the heck out of there. The music is good but the teaching is extremely dangerous. Ministries like this is why so many churches are against the gifts of the Holy Spirit
David fell and Todd was exposed...as a quote from video sponsor is wrong. David was exposed by the prophet Nathan. Meanness is so prevalent among the Church...what ever happened to grace? Yes David paid a great price...but it wasn't a judgement from man...it came from God. Please let God take care of this and not be so self-righteous towards others.
Todd Bentley was a false prophet and wolf in sheep's clothing from the get go, and Joyner wants to "restore" him? Todd Bentley should have been exposed in the beginning. Apparently the reason Rick Joyner won't do this is because he's just like him. Hirelings they are. Beware Jesus warned you.
Shekanahh 1 week ago
ah... david was also exposed by a prophet. not protecting todd here..but just saying. And I saw a video where todd did repend by saying he was wrong.... i´m not the judge of his heart and you shouldn´t be too. There are other things about rick that smells more. like he´s a catholic knight, if you didn´t know yet...
svenkrue84 1 month ago
@svenkrue84 by the way: god deals different with beleivers since the new covernent. David was in the old one... you remember?
svenkrue84 1 month ago
@svenkrue84 but after all: what he´s saying about better ebing a false prophet than being judging ppl is totally bull#### (pardon) that´s really manipulating and slap into every believers face who knows the word. don´t waste ur precios time with this self called leaders praising themselves....
svenkrue84 1 month ago
Although there are a number of grammatical errors, the video's great!
tinycrack 1 month ago
This man is totally wrong!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Why? Because the Bible says that David did REPENT and still had to take the consecvenses of his sin with Batseba. But Todd "false prophet" Bentley has NOT REPENTED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! He has left his first wife and is a adulterer. And according to the Bible he will end up in hell if he don't repent and go back to his WIFE
Luk 16:18, 1 cor. 6:9
Catari777 1 month ago
@Catari777 Luk 16:18 Every one that putteth away his wife, and marrieth another, committeth adultery: and he that marrieth one that is put away from a husband committeth adultery.
Catari777 1 month ago
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@Catari777 Luk 16:18 Every one that putteth away his wife, and marrieth another, committeth adultery: and he that marrieth one that is put away from a husband committeth adultery.
Catari777 1 month ago
@Catari777 1Co 6:9Or know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate,nor abusers of themselves with men,
1Co 6:10 nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.
1Co 6:11And such were some of you: but ye were washed, but ye were sanctified, but ye were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ,and in the Spirit of our God.
Catari777 1 month ago
@Catari777 Rom 7:2 For the woman that hath a husband is bound by law to the husband while he liveth; but if the husband die, she is discharged from the law of the husband.
Rom 7:3 So then if, while the husband liveth, she be joined to another man, she shall be called an adulteress: but if the husband die, she is free from the law, so that she is no adulteress, though she be joined to another man.
That means if He dont repent and turn from his sin he WILL END UP IN HELL ACCORDING TO JESUS!
Catari777 1 month ago
@Catari777 And BTW JESUS DONT GIVE MERCY IF WE DONT REPENT FROM OUR SIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
1Jn 1:5 And this is the message which we have heard from him and announce unto you, that God is light, and in him is no darkness at all.
1Jn 1:6 If we say that we have fellowship with him and walk in the darkness, we lie, and do not the truth:
1Jn 1:7 but if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another,and the blood of Jesus his Son cleanseth us from all sin.
Catari777 1 month ago
@Catari777 Mat 7:21 "Not everyone who keeps saying to me, 'Lord, Lord,' will get into the kingdom from heaven, but only the person who keeps doing the will of my Father in heaven.
Tit 1:16 They claim to know God, but they deny him by their actions.
1Jn 5:18 We know that the person who has been born from God does not go on sinning. Rather, the Son of God protects them, and the evil one cannot harm them. That is HE CAN FALL IN SIN BUT CANT STAY LIVING IN THE SIN!!!
Catari777 1 month ago
the mercy you give.....will be givento you......Jesus said ,let him who is without sin cast the first stone......im so glad God shows me mercy every day......
srhoman3 2 months ago
Mr. Vinnie, your Bible understanding is much poor. Of course Gal 6:1 has everything to do with fallen Ministries. You can not understand that because you are leaking love and compassion, not to make mention of wisdom. I am sure, you started a battle with the wrong people.
Sure was Todd weird in his customs and he made a big mistake staying a long period of time, weeks, away from his wife while he was ministering in Lakeland but there in the tent was the presence of God much perceptible, a fact.
betgilson 2 months ago
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emilio57702 3 months ago
This guy is a devil.
Jim777ism 3 months ago
Sorry but people are watching and listening to famous Pastors to see if they are living what they preach to others. The bible said be sure your sins will be found out and what is done in the dark will come to light!
NotFlaking 3 months ago
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You accuse people of gossip but sorry many People are watching celebrities and famous Pastors if they can't stand the heat and glare of the spotlight then they can sit in the pew and be a spectator like the rest of us average Joe's. They are famous because people are interested in them. So your gossip accusation does not fly!
NotFlaking 3 months ago
You accuse people of gossip but sorry are watching celebrities and famous Pastors if they can't stand the heat and glare of the spotlight then they can sit in the pew and be a spectator like the rest of us average Joe's. They are famous because people are interested in them. So your gossip accusation does not fly!
NotFlaking 3 months ago
Jesus said they will say Lord didn't I prophecy in your name and cast out devils in your name and he will say depart from me I never knew you workers of iniquity.
Not naming names just saying don't confuse the message with the messenger because they are not always the same!
NotFlaking 3 months ago
Little wonder why so many Atheist and unsaved people doubt if anyone is really living the Christian life behind closed doors. Jesus name is being mocked every time a scandal of a well known public Christian hits the news. It makes it ten times harder to share the Gospel and not get laughed to scorn because they think everybody is a fake!
NotFlaking 3 months ago
I agree with Rick J that we all have sinned and have fallen short. I believe the Church is like a hospital for the sin sick soul to come and get well and be made whole but I disagree with Joyner that the sin of a Leaders/Pastors adultery can be made light of( in that it can just be overlooked). Pastors have NO business in the Pulpit if they are spiritually terminally ill themselves. Sit down until you get spiritually well then you can lead by example and not come off as a big phony hypocrite!
NotFlaking 3 months ago
Paul the Apostle described a Christian's journey as a race where there would be a crown for those who finish well. Even if you are saved you may lose your rewards for your labor or be disqualified. Sorry but Todd did not run well.
When Pastors commit adultery they not only cheat on their wives but on their faithful members who look up to them.
Rick J. said King David did worst but did U mention God told King David the sword would never leave his house & his first born son died?
NotFlaking 3 months ago
James 3:1
"You know that we who teach will be judged more severely"
I was in 3 Christian Churches in a row where all 3 Pastors admitted to adulterous affairs.It caused a Church split. 2 out of 3 refused to be held accountable or repair the marriage. None of these Churches has recovered. Some weaker members backslid and never went back to any church to date because they had placed these Pastors on thrones as if they were infallible and God.They must Lead by example or not at all!
NotFlaking 3 months ago
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terelinda56 4 months ago
remember always a fact: David never stopped being a King
fabiosergioj 4 months ago 10
@fabiosergioj And???
tinycrack 1 month ago
well done. joyner is a heretic and bentley is a maniac as well as a heretic.
this is worth a subscription
Strefanasha 4 months ago
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zytigon 4 months ago
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KennethHagim 4 months ago
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Hey, when's the last time he raised the dead? He couldn't heal a sick cat!
Watch on youtube MINISTERS OF SATAN, by excatholics.
BemnyHinn 4 months ago
Joyner is a Knight of Malta and a voice for the false prophet in America; the whole NAR network could be classified as the false prophet of Revelation 13 - it is rising out of the earth now.
bondagebreaker7 5 months ago
Whoever thought it was a good idea to abuse the sound of a trumpet needs to be shot. Twice.
1. It doesn't make you more spiritual.
2. It doesn't make your gossip any less.
3. It doesn't make what you say anymore factual.
4. It doesn't convince me anymore than what you already have said or shown.
5. Poop.
All it really does, is make me click away from this video as fast as I can because it's burdensome to my ears, and my well being.
With much love, bye.
SpaceAboveSky 5 months ago
@SpaceAboveSky So you seem to be more upset over someone using the blowing of a trumpet than adultery in the pulpit which causes the body of Christ to be laughed to scorn and makes it ten times harder to get people to come to Church to hear the Gospel when invited they think we all are fakes!
NotFlaking 3 months ago
@SpaceAboveSky Any public figure in the limelight runs the risk of being in the glare of the spot light when they mess up and get involve in gross sin. Don't spend your time growing a mega church and want big crowds if you can't stand the fact that people are interested in the lives of celebrities- that is what makes them celebrities!
DUH!
NotFlaking 3 months ago
sorry, if Todd was truly repentant. Why didn't he stop his affair and ask the Lord to restore his marriage? Instead without shame he left his wife for the woman he was cheating with.
happyface2012 5 months ago
If Todd was truly repentant
happyface2012 5 months ago
that you had the curriage to post this!!! i warn you my friend in love! this thing Christ would never ever had done! and to the act by posting this i say: shame on you!! but you as person i love, read and study on luke 3 !
1992Gerwin1992 6 months ago
Todd's sin is excused but we point a finger at powerless Presidents like Obama and question his Christianity while divorce and porn addiction is out of control among in the Church world! Does anyone know what Rick Joyner had to say about Bill Clinton's infidelities? I heard Rick Joyner preach against sin in America on another utube video so this is completely different ! Who is holding our Christian leaders accountable. Pastors should lead by example or not lead at all!
NotFlaking 6 months ago
Sick Jointer..this guy is pure evil and a demon from hell!!!
dying2self2000 6 months ago
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@VinnieAct: you are acting just like the devil accusing other.
harjokurniadi 6 months ago
@VinnieAct: you are acting just like the devil accusing others.
harjokurniadi 6 months ago
Fakeland Revival. I read the "Final Quest". There is nothing Biblical about it. I believe people today can receive dreams and visions, but they would not be New Age and contradict the Bible like Rick Joyner's dreams do.
savedbyjesusblood 7 months ago
People read your Bible and let God speak to you not Rick Joyner, Benny Hinn, Todd Bently etc... It becomes obvious. If you need convinced the Bible is indeed to be taken seriously check out "NWO 2012 Agenda" and compare it with what you're King James Version Bible says. That would just scratch the surface. Beware of these wolves in sheep's clothing. The remedy is God's word.
Biblehastheanswer 7 months ago
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patriotusa200 7 months ago
Why don't you get a LIFE Vinnie, and instead of spending your time picking other people apart, START PREACHING THE SAVING GOSPEL OF JESUS CHRIST???
All you are doing is giving the enemies of God MORE reason to blaspheme. Give it up and if you are so right in your own eyes, leave others alone. "Who art thou that judgest another man's servant? To his own master he standeth or falleth" (Paul)
Eromhsa1 8 months ago
I still don't know if cheating on your wife and marrying another woman is adultery. jesus said it was but Rick Joyner says it isn't. A bit confused..
stoob1969 8 months ago
If you find this "error" then Matthew 5 and 6 (Jesus himself speaking) you might want to see how and what Jesus said. Personally, I am still working on the line "Be perfect as your Father is". Just a thought.
Healoneministries 8 months ago
You...whoever you are posting those comments on the screen....you're an absolute "ASSHOLE".........
probatm 9 months ago
You...whoever you are posting those comments on the screen....you're an absolute "ASSHOLE".........
probatm 9 months ago
When a prophet was caught in sin, and prophecying falsely, he was stoned to death. Explain the upside down Jesus tattoo Todd has with the monkey in his beard and the word Omni? Explain why a man after being saved for years would spend over $10k in over a month to get so many tattoos on his body? Explain how the church should ignore his sexual transgression which led him to jail at the age of 14yrs? Explain why we should ignore his sleeping with the nanny while still married? Luciferian implant
Conservmom 9 months ago
@Conservmom Stoning false prophets was done in the Old Testament times. We don't do that these days and there is a big difference between a false prophet and a prophet who goes astray and needs correction. A false prophet deliberately misleads people. Anyone can go astray and fall down. Jesus did not come to condemn the world, but to save it, or so He said. Maybe you got new information. Nobody ignored his transgression. He was delt with, repented and was restored as is supposed to happen.
hazelmay64 7 months ago
You said in the video that David fell but Todd was exposed. David committed adultery and then tried to hide it by getting Uriah to sleep with Bathsheba. When Uriah wouldn't do it he covered it up by having Uriah killed. Then the prophet Nathan, or rather God by Nathan, exposed David and his conspiracy. Why can't you compare Todd with David. In fact, more was known of Todd by the people around Todd who pulled away from him ie Canadian Freshfire Ministry, and forced him to resign. David concealed
gordonhumbled 9 months ago
This is good stuff! "O me of little grace" is a mockery of scripture!
Scraxkat 9 months ago
By him being exposed is good for him maybe the LORD did this to tell him to wake up and repent because the lord is merciful like that. He moves in ways we dont understand God show us it seems like unlimited grace and mercy we should do the same in return with others. that's exactly what happened to the woman who the jews caught in the act and brought her to Jesus to tempt him and jesus wrote on the ground and everybody left. if she can be forgiving by Jesus so can todd be forgiving.
Rontvega1 9 months ago
To be a true christian is to forgive my brethren. Jesus said we should forgive 70 times 7. if God acted like we acting towards him we would all be dead. because we all sin and fall short to the glory God. Ask yourself when the last time you all sinned. and when u sinned should the church treat you how you treating Todd Bently and be honest with your self. because the fact of the matter is sin is sin. what counts is when you sin no matter if you got caught or not did you repent and keep moving.
Rontvega1 9 months ago
@Rontvega1 It is true that we are to forgive, but we're not to simply "forgive" false doctrine, we are to expose it for what it is. Todd is in a teaching position--he is telling other people what to believe. If he's telling them things that are false, we cannot simply sweep it under the rug and say we'll just forgive him. That's ludicrous!
Daisyraytheclown 9 months ago
This video is so annoying and self righteous!!
idreamtmusic 10 months ago
@idreamtmusic Why?
Keruaran 10 months ago
They only have value because you make them as such. I think your God would call that idolatry. I am going to go with Matthew 7: 21-23 Wanna join em? Keep it up.
scienceofgod 10 months ago
Ya know folks, the fellow who put this together is trying to help you stop and question the reason and motive behind self indulging edifiers. And to that end I will go one further. These types are trying to take you captive through their vain imaginations. Their importance in your daily life is nil. Listening to them make proclamations does not get your lawn mowed, or fix your truck. In short, they are of no value. The only have value cause you take your time to make them as such.
scienceofgod 10 months ago
So let me get this right. This fellow with the white hair is the press boy for an exposed charlatan. Theatrical manipulation for the weak minded to render coins from their middle and low class wages. Let me toss this one by you. Shut off your television and computer for about one year. When you turn it back on, new lying wonders will be ready to relieve you of your cash and take your good sense captive again.
scienceofgod 10 months ago
great videom keep it up vinnie :)
jomocolo 10 months ago
Religion simply rots the minds of the believers! I think it is time we all admit this & grow up! Humanity has made great strides forward in the past 200-300yrs it religion had NOTHING to do with it! Rational thinking had everything to do with it! Time to start THINKING!!
Viracocha711 10 months ago
@Viracocha711 I think you need to go study your history.
Keruaran 10 months ago
@Keruaran If you want to credit religion simply for the fact the very very early people looking for answers were doing so to try & support the Bible then we both know that is WEAK! Even when you put aside the FACT the Church was killing people along the way for doing so. The fact is the more these knowledge seekers learned the more they realized the Bible was flawed! So, what was your point?
Viracocha711 10 months ago
@Viracocha711 Like I said before, you need to go study your history.
Keruaran 10 months ago
@Keruaran LOL! Right, I kinda figured your reply if any would have been empty.
Viracocha711 10 months ago
@Viracocha711 As I said, go and study history...
Keruaran 10 months ago
@Keruaran Since we both know you are, well, lets say, BULLSHITTING...Or at least that I won't call your bluff! And I was just going to ignore but it is Friday & I am bored...So, lets test each others knowledge of history.Please tell me what religion has contributed to the modern age that has nothing to with the Humanities...If you are not sure what I am talking about take the time to educate yourself & look it up. I will be waiting to hear what religion & how it helped bring us modernity...
Viracocha711 10 months ago
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@Viracocha711
You are full of bluster and hubris. Except for this:
"Please tell me what religion has contributed to the modern age that has nothing to with the Humanities"
But sadly, this is an attempt at a loaded question that fails simply becuase it is a false dichotomy. The Humanities is a very big umbrella you can put a whole lot of things under yet with no reason to presuppose antagonism to religion, quite the contrary.
Keruaran 10 months ago
it says on your video that David fell and that Todd was exposed......Well wasn't david exposed? Thats why Nathan the Prophet went to confront him of it. David refused to admit his sin for something like 18 months and didn't confess it as sin until Nathan called him out on it. check out 2 samuel 12
Thank God for grace for all of us
jcgresham54 10 months ago 8
@jcgresham54 I have answered this question several times before, if you look back in the comments you will find my response. Thank you, Love in Christ....:-)
vinnieActs2030 10 months ago
@jcgresham54 Rick Joyner et al are unrepentant... DAVID was repentant.
jvsm1971 7 months ago
Wow some Joyner hater made a rather ignorant video. God is a God of second chances. He will judge us, it is not up to the maker of this video to judge Rick Joyner or Todd Bently.
777jnp777 10 months ago
like King David came back. After sexual immorality. After being exposed by the prophet nathan. Read your bible.
idreamtmusic 10 months ago
You filthy liberal vermin. You've taken God out of our schools and put homosexuality into it. Get out of my country. This is the United States of America. We don't want you here, filthy vermin scumbags. Get out of my country. You've destroyed my country, you've been doing this for 40 years. GET THE HELL OUT!!!!!!!!!!!!
IAmHotize 10 months ago
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TheIntolerantAtheist 10 months ago
@TheIntolerantAtheist So you are a homosexual?? Well, that's sin you know.
graceexplosion 10 months ago
@graceexplosion Yes, and us militant homosexual mafia activists are forcing our way into YOUR children's school and forcing children as young as 5 to engage in gay orgies in public toilets. We consider it a "teachable moment." Matt Barber says so. Never mind the fact that this is bullshit, you'll believe it because you want to. You've been taught from a young age to reject facts as a matter of faith. You don't really care what the facts are, you're going to spout your bullshit regardless.
TheIntolerantAtheist 10 months ago
@graceexplosion I forgot, I'm from the RADICAL far left.
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TheIntolerantAtheist 10 months ago
Anybody using a Coat Hangar for a pair of shoulders really is just so not trustworth!
Benwell1 10 months ago
Todd Bentley was never saved, imo. A FALSE CHRISTIAN AND FALSE PROPHET.
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TheIntolerantAtheist 10 months ago
@TheIntolerantAtheist Takes a lot of faith to be an atheist. You have to believe, as a human being, "you're it" -- the greatest power in the universe. Quite pride-filled when you think about it.
graceexplosion 10 months ago
@graceexplosion No, I believe that Myrna, the pink unicorn is my Lord and Saviour. How do I know that Myrna, the pink unicorn is Lord and Saviour? My scripture, which is the word of Myrna, the pink unicorn tells me so. How do I know this is the word of Myrna, the pink unicorn? Myrna, the pink unicorn says so. Worshipping Myrna, the pink unicorn is the one true path to heaven, and when an earthquake occurs it's Myrna's punishment for not worshipping them enough. Myrna is a jealous God.
TheIntolerantAtheist 10 months ago
@graceexplosion I'm an atheist because there is absolutely NO evidence that there is any God that created the universe, let alone the God of the Bible who hates homosexuals and demands worship and will send you to HELL to burn screaming in agony FOREVER!!!!!!!!! Simply because you didn't spend your life worshipping this horrific monster of the ancient Judean desert. I better believe OR ELSE. Catholics send me messages saying I'll go to hell if I don't join their religion, Muslims say the same.
TheIntolerantAtheist 10 months ago
@TheIntolerantAtheist God doesn't want religion he wants relationship. Get to know God. God doesn't hate sinners he hates sin. People go to hell because they refuse to turn away from sin. Heaven or hell it is solely your choice. God won't force you to get to know him but he wants you to. Jesus died so you don't have to go to hell but if you refuse to repent you will go to hell. God doesn't want you to go to hell DON'T GO TO HELL
godapproved 10 months ago
@godapproved So you're a self-appointed expert in what the imaginary deity of the ancient Judean desert wants? Why is this God so obsessed with hating these "sins" of human beings of planet earth, many of which are harmless functions of basic human nature? Why would I want to respect this vile God of the desert who kills a group of 42 children for calling a man "bald head"? Respect is earned, and from what I've read of the God of the Bible, this is one sick twisted character.
TheIntolerantAtheist 10 months ago
@TheIntolerantAtheist Funny you say respect is earned but you hypocritically start off by insulting me YOU don't know God neither do you understand his word and judging by your response you have no intent in understanding You are a sinner trying to judge a righteous God You don't know what righteousness is because you are in darkness to you evil is good and good is evil which is why you continue in sin and criticize a God you don't know You can choose to repent and get to know God or be judged
godapproved 10 months ago
@godapproved A righteous God who commands that you stone your own children to death if they suggest you worship other deities? Why does this God need human beings to worship him so much? People don't get their morals from Gods, but religion can be used to make good people do evil things. Look at the Westboro Baptist church. If you take this God at his word you can be just like him: a vicious, heartless monster and feel GOOD about it.
TheIntolerantAtheist 10 months ago
@TheIntolerantAtheist there you go again calling evil good Rather than capitalize on the fact that people worship false gods you point out the people who would remove those who practice such evil acts by stoning them to death because for you its ok if people worship false gods You categorize sin God is righteous so he judges all sin Jesus died so that no man has to die physically or spiritually Your sins are forgiven through the cross if you confess and forsake your sin westboros r nt christian
godapproved 10 months ago
@godapproved All Gods are false. There isn't a single shred of evidence that any of these Gods exist, and people who are indoctrinated into any particular religion always accuse people indoctrinated into other religions false. Why would your God think that the best way to take away your sins is to have himself impregnated into a virgin and sacrificed to himself in the most remote, least enlightened and least literate area of bronze-age Palestine?
TheIntolerantAtheist 10 months ago
@TheIntolerantAtheist to say there is no evidence is proof you didn't look whether or not you believe the evidence is proof is a different story you are just as much indoctrinated by atheism as I am in christianity indoctrination isn't the issue, a closed heart is. you are intolerant to those who are intolerant towards sin and you tolerate sin which it should be the other way around Your comments show this don't just type comments on youtube get to know God I double-dog dare you!
godapproved 10 months ago
@godapproved Most atheists were once theists. We used logic and reason and realized religion is a man-made absurdity. Atheism is simply a lack of a belief in God. I won't believe in any Gods unless there's evidence for these Gods. Worshipping Gods is an entirely different story. Why do these Gods always need human beings to worship them? This is a universal characteristic of all Gods. Christianity is as absurd to me as Hinduism is to you.
TheIntolerantAtheist 10 months ago
@TheIntolerantAtheist God wants to speak to you but your sin and iniquity separate you From the God who loves you because he is Holy God is worthy of praise because he is Good and God is Love Because God is Holy and righteous he must put an end to sin Hell was created for the devil and his angels anyone who rejects God is sent to hell Hell wasn't created for you but if you reject God you will know what the absence of God is (Hell) Repent of your sins and ask god to reveal himself with sincerity
godapproved 10 months ago
@TheIntolerantAtheist Study the Bible. The words for "time" in the Bible related to punishment in the ORIGINAL LANGUAGE state "age". This means a time period of UNSPECIFIED duration. One must be a theologian to know how long hell lasts. According to the Bible, in the ORIGINAL LANGUAGE, Satan is destroyed at the return of Jesus Christ. Thus, all evil is destroyed -- including death and hell. All unbelievers are thus wholly purified -- and recreated anew on the Last Day by Jesus.
graceexplosion 10 months ago
@TheIntolerantAtheist P.S. If Jesus had not died on the cross -- "hell" would have been for time without end and no one would have been saved and recreated anew. If you are an atheist on the last day -- it will be because you were UNABLE to believe during this lifetime... so, of course, then if you are unable to believe -- having a will -- you choose not to believe as the result of inability to believe. The two are one. Jesus died to destroy Satan and all evil and to ransom all mankind.
graceexplosion 10 months ago
@graceexplosion And you keep spouting this nonsense without a shred of evidence to back these statements up.
TheIntolerantAtheist 10 months ago
@TheIntolerantAtheist You're an incredibly rude, miserable, mean, nasty in your presentation. This is what atheism produces. I am telling you what the scripture state. No one can "make you" believe. That you cannot believe is your dilemma -- not my responsibility. I am telling you what the scriptures state. That is factual. To believe or not to believe is a personal matter. If you want the scripture, I can give you the scripture. But no one but God can give you faith in them.
graceexplosion 10 months ago
@graceexplosion Being mean and rude are human reactions towards particular situations. I don't mean to be rude to you. Atheism causes rudeness and meanness? What about when I go to the beach and there are a group of religious zealots there with megaphones telling everyone they're going to hell and calling provacatively-dressed women "whores" or people drinking alcohol "drunkards?" Only religion can cause people to do that. And once again, how is scripture fact or the word of God?
TheIntolerantAtheist 10 months ago
@TheIntolerantAtheist Perhaps your mother raised you to be rude and told you that it was acceptable. (I doubt it.) It is not. No one is "yelling at you" here and bothering you while you are recreating. You have chosen of your own volition to engage in a discussion in a clear religious posting. So you have gravitated to this venue. Politeness and courtesy would be appreciated. We all have a religious opinion. Everyone does. You have an opinion called "atheism".
graceexplosion 10 months ago
@TheIntolerantAtheist Whether one accepts the Word of Gd as the Word of God depends on faith. The scripture of The Holy Bible clearly claims to be Divinely Inspired, God-breathed, and God speaking His Word through men to us. This is a claim you would have to evaluate. The only way you could believe this claim truly in living power is by God revealing this to you. Therefore, we are discussing not the natural but the supernatural.
graceexplosion 10 months ago
@graceexplosion No, whether or not one accept the word of the God they were indoctrinated into from BIRTH depends on what religion you were born into. The Holy Bible claims to be divinely inspired just as the Koran and the Hindi book The Vedas, which are responsible for people who are not ever allowed out of the class system they're born into due to the fact they're supposed to be reincarnated, evil people being reincarnated as poor people good reincarnated as rich folk.
TheIntolerantAtheist 10 months ago
@TheIntolerantAtheist I wasn't indoctrinated into Christianity. When I was 3, someone read me the story of Solomon. In that story, Solomon asks God for wisdom and God gives it to him. I got alone with God, lifted my eyes to Heaven and cried from my heart, "God give me wisdom like you gave Solomon!" Immediately, God took me to Heaven, told me the story of Creation, the fall of man, and showed me Jesus. I saw Jesus face to face in Heaven's glory. That's how I became a Christian.
graceexplosion 10 months ago
@graceexplosion Obviously God didn't give you wisdom. You live in an imaginary world that's always about to end where Barack Obama is he anti-Christ because he doesn't pander to Christian Dominionists, a world of talking snakes, faith healings, a global flood and a 6,000 year-old earth, none of which is real. Good news is bad news to you. If the crime rate increases, that's good news because it means Jesus will return that much sooner.
TheIntolerantAtheist 10 months ago
@TheIntolerantAtheist You have a "paradigm". You have a perspective based upon the knowledge that is within you. You need to learn boundaries. Speak for yourself. You can say, "I don't believe in Jesus". But you presume too much to say that because Jesus is not in you that He is not in me. Jesus lives in me. In my salvation, the glory and Divine Love of God -- His Spirit -- exploded from His heart to mine. He has lived in me ever since. God is Spirit. God's Love is what matters.
graceexplosion 10 months ago
@TheIntolerantAtheist Divine Inspiration: 2 Peter 1:20Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation. 21For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost. 2 Timothy 3:16All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: 17That the man of God may be perfect, thoroughly furnished unto all good works.
graceexplosion 10 months ago
@graceexplosion So you're quoting scripture to prove scripture? That's EXACTLY the same as quoting Harry Potter to prove Harry Potter. I get EXACTLY the same thing from Muslims trying to convert me, because, after all, if I don't convert to THEIR version of THEIR religion I'm going to HELL.
TheIntolerantAtheist 10 months ago
@TheIntolerantAtheist I'm not threatening you. You're not being blackmailed. If you jump off a 1000 foot building -- you will plunge to your death. That's a fact that you can understand because it is a natural fact. Honestly, I couldn't care less whether you believe in Jesus or don't. My view is that God is Sovereign and in control of all things. So, if you go to hell until Jesus returns -- that's between you and God. I will answer your questions, but your destiny is not my responsibility
graceexplosion 10 months ago
all i can think of is john 8:1-11.
to the woman caught committing adultery, jesus himself said, "i do not condemn you. go now and leave your life of sin." his kindness is liberating. his grace is scandalous, and has been displayed as so throughout the bible, both in old and new testaments.
coffmanlz 11 months ago
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Zionism NOT the works of God but those of the Antichrist, synagogue of satan. Nor are the "Jews" in Zionism from the seed of David or Moses or Abraham or Jesus. They are a forgery of Khazarian decent. They are a fake - an imitation chosen by Lucifer. They are NOT the descendants of the 12 tribes of Israel. Nor has the true Israel been established at the right time. Israel IS COUNTERFEIT!
"Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues".
Ayelyah 11 months ago
I think Joyer and Bently are both anti-christ and should not be allowed to preach- I feel sickened by theses evil wolves that ravaged the sick and vunerable sheep.
stainless64 11 months ago
dont get rid of the todds books that big money
aa77a86 11 months ago
bently and that wolf are fornicators with ppl souls and wallets for filthy lucre sake. Fornicators! Let them near your heart Again to what? Fornicate again the willing and open and ignorrant sheep they already raveged? bently is an adulerer typical sex starved man. NO WAY should he be allowed up on stage again to do more of his punk bully sorcery antics.
zobcity01 11 months ago
Galatians 6:1 (Amplified Bible)
Galatians 6 1BRETHREN, IF any person is overtaken in misconduct or sin of any sort, you who are spiritual [who are responsive to and controlled by the Spirit] should set him right and restore and reinstate him, without any sense of superiority and with all gentleness, keeping an attentive eye on yourself, lest you should be tempted also.
Cycles28 11 months ago
@Cycles28 "Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause divisions and OFFENCES contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and avoid them." (Rom 16:17)
"Then said he unto the disciples, It is impossible but that OFFENCES will come: but woe unto him, through whom they come!" (Luke 17:1)
vinnieActs2030 11 months ago
Hay bro 1. take away the annoying horns, 2. take away the annoying words they would make a better window than a door, if you wish to say something put tags in so we can put if off so we can watch it properly.
Cycles28 11 months ago
@Cycles28 The horns are a warning sound that the enemy is approaching, they stay! The "annoying words" as you call them is my response to Joyner, they stay also. I don't wish to say something, I did say something and as far as I see it, you did watch it properly by hearing two sides of the coin. Thank you for your comments friend, but if all your getting from this video is annoyed and a need to make sarcastic remarks maybe you should try another video, something that tickles your ears maybe?
vinnieActs2030 11 months ago 2
Todd Bentley and Rick Joyner were both born jewish, and say they "converted". Antichrists.
Josh8753 1 year ago
This Rick Joyner guy is a devil. He was born a jew and converted to Christianity to try and destroy it. He located himself in North Carolina because he felt it was the heart of the Bible belt. He tells people to 'lighten' up on Bible teachings, and is telling his followers to get ready for the war. Unfortunately, his followers don't realize they are part of the New World Order army and will seek to destroy Christians everywhere.
Josh8753 1 year ago
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@Josh8753 Rick Joyner also SAYS he has teamed up with the Knights of Malta, but he has not. He made up his own little group he calls the Knights of Malta; they are not the real Knights. He wants to make fools of Christians.
Josh8753 1 year ago
David fell and Todd was exposed ? IF I remember right David was exposed by Nathan. David didn't repent until Nathan prophesied to him about the lamb and Nathan told David that he was the man. I never was one for Todd Bentley or his doctrine and the way he prayed for people and many other things but neither do I think it is right to build up one man to tear down another.
meme4209 1 year ago
rick joyner is one sicke son of a bitch!!! how dare he lie to desperate terminally ill ppl telling them they're healed. this bastard sat there and encouraged a little kid to try and "heal" some one by praying over them. sick fuck!!! its times like this that i wish there was a hell set aside for him, todd bently, benny hinn and all the other fuckers who capitalize on the defenseless through religion. smmfh.
Keenanville09 1 year ago
Nice job in pointing out the errors on this clip. Keep up the good work : )
theflarpus 1 year ago
I feel ashamed for even listening to this. I wish I could remove my number from the view counter. The time that was put into bashing these guys. Shameful. One thing that David chose to not do was sit in the seat of the scornful. I will not cast judgement on these men. I know Rick Joyner to be a man with many wonderful insights. The passion he has for the Lord is sincere. When I listen to someone, I listen for truth to be revealed through him. Listen for the message, not the messenger.
this1s4jc 1 year ago 2
@this1s4jc Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light and so are his ministers, from what you say if his message sounds good you receive it? without considering where it came from? (2 Cor.11:14) "For ye suffer fools gladly, seeing ye yourselves are wise." (2 Cor.11:19) "For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ. Do you also accuse Paul of casting judgment? If I was you I would feel ashamed too, for turning from the truth.
vinnieActs2030 1 year ago
@vinnieActs2030 I just don't want to bash a brother in Christ when there are so few of us these days. I believe that God has used those men to lead many people to Christ. I can't imagine being in the spotlight the way that those men are. I thank Christ that I'm saved because it's only by his Grace. I have'nt seen or heard them do anything that I can judge them for. I'm careful what I say so as to not offend the Holy Spirit of God and I try to pray for those who are lost or less fortunate than I.
this1s4jc 1 year ago
@this1s4jc I understand your not wanting to offend the Holy Spirit, but Jesus himself commended the Ephesians for trying the words and life of those who said they were apostles and were not. Don't ever be afraid to do the things Jesus taught us. "I know thy works, and thy labour, and thy patience, and how thou canst not bear them which are evil: and thou hast tried them which say they are apostles, and are not, and hast found them liars:" (Rev 2:2)
vinnieActs2030 1 year ago
@this1s4jc "Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world." (1Jn 4:1) John tells us to try the spirits, there is no offense in that. These men like Joyner, Todd Bentley, John Crowder and many more count on that fear you have, they just want you to beleive every word they say. The scriptures tell us different, John don't want us to do that, and Jesus for sure don't want us to do that. Love & Peace..:-)
vinnieActs2030 1 year ago
Nice scripture choice on David's punishment. God comes through by killing his innocent sons, pretty typical. I know, I know... we don't understand the ways of God. Try that in the 21st century, have God kill innocent children for the sins of their father. Bet that would go over real well.
FortheLuIz 1 year ago
Sadly Mr. Joyner is a proven false prophet. Mr Bentley is a pathological liar whom the Lord in His mercy towards the church exposed. The reason the followers of these men cannot discern the truth about them is because they are sitting under judgement because they love not the truth and have been given what their itching ears wish to hear. Any true Christian will do well to avoid them lest you share in their condemnation.
( romans 16:17) Mark and avoid.
Anaksbane2 1 year ago
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Let´s do what Jesus said! He said: Judge not, that ye be not judged.
Annemone2009 1 year ago
was there ever a time in rick joyners life where he was a true follower of christ or not? todd bentley can serve in the church but he can no longer be a minister or a pastor.
and why does todd have alot of tatooes? in the bible it also has something to say about what not to do to your body.
where are all the real christians in this world?
shvibzik123 1 year ago
restore does not mean restore back to the position he held. God is speaking of being right with Him again.
hogybare 1 year ago
Vinnie you forgot one verse Matt 6:15, guess you didn't look that one up before you made this misleading video. all your videos has one theme, un-forgivness. your not one of those who thinks we are saved by works are you, that if a man sins once, oh crap it's over, i'm sorry did I offend you with the use of the word crap, get over it because unless you repent of your un-forgivness it will be you burning in hell not me for saying "crap" to offend a religious type.
Craymarris 1 year ago
@Craymarris After reading your comments, I am convinced there is life on other planets. I guess you live in a parallel universe...
jackbartolli51 1 year ago
and David wasn't exposed?
Jerm29111 1 year ago
IT IS A SIN TO SPEAK AGAINST A MINISTER!
WE ARE ALL AS HUMAN AS TODD BENTLEY AND WE ALL HAVE THE SAME ABILITY TO FALL AS TODD.
71yes71 1 year ago
@71yes71 It is a sin NOT to speak out against a false minister (Ephesians 5:11-12). Todd Bentley was never saved in the first place!
jackbartolli51 1 year ago
@jackbartolli51 Ephesians 5: 11-12 says to expose the "unfruitful works of darkness" NOT to go around exposing "evil" ministers. Jesus exposed the sin but he had love and compassion for the people. How do you know Todd Bentley was saved or not?
71yes71 1 year ago
@71yes71 You've got to be kidding! Do NOT expose evil ministers? Evil ministers produce unfruitful works of darkness. 2 Corinthians 11:13 warns that evil ministers are "...false apostles, deceitful workers, disguising themselves as apostles of Christ." Philippians 3:2 warns Christians to "Beware of the dogs, beware of the evil workers..." In Matthew chapter 23, Jesus called evil scribes and Pharisees "hypocrites" and "blind guides" and a "brood of vipers". Study the Bible--in context.
jackbartolli51 1 year ago
@71yes71 Jesus Christ is our greatest example of love and compassion, but He offended virtually everyone in His day, and He still does. The evil and false teachers of Jesus' day hated him, because He told the truth in love, and He instructed His apostles to do the same. Truth is offensive. The gospel is offensive. And, to those who do not know Jesus as Lord and Savior, He is offensive. Study your Bible. Learn about Jesus. Then, you won't be deceived by the false "Jesus" (Galatians 1:6-9).
jackbartolli51 1 year ago
@71yes71 Todd Bentley is not saved because he serves and worships a false "Jesus" and preaches a false gospel. Go to Christian Research Service dot com and click on "The Prophetic Movement" in the menu. Scroll down to the article "Todd Bentley: Preaching the Gospel 'Won't Win Souls'". Pay close attention to what Todd Bentley says about the gospel and God. Then, if you need further assistance, contact me in my YouTube account.
jackbartolli51 1 year ago
Dear VinnieActs2030.. I have watched this video now.. But what I do not understand is all the commeries you have added... why make it worse than it already is. And people have discernments as well... In His Care . Inge Lyck, Denmark
IngeLyck 1 year ago
I definately believe in not turning your back on someone b/c they have fallen from Grace and sinned. If God doesn't do that who are we to be so unmerciful and ungracious. BUT...my issue here is not that Joyner refuses to turn his back on his brother for sinning, the issue is that he supports the blasphemy that comes from Todd's mouth. Joyner needs to sit down w/him and help Bentley get his beliefs straight!
kingdomanointed 1 year ago
That's terrible!!! He's not supposed to do that...somewhere in Corinthians paul explains that if man divorces his wife that he can't get remarried or be with another person but only to be reconciled with the marriage. Can you post me the link to this guy? Is there any bad word on Rick joyner here?
Matice21 1 year ago
@Matice21 Levi and by the way I like that name it speaks of priesthood, which we actually are, a royal priesthood :-) Anyway, there are lots of links to Bentley, just Google him, the links are endless, as far as Joyner is concerned I tried to get it across in this video that he blames the innocent body of Christ if they aren't swallowing Bentley's version of things, although I may have fallen way short of my goal, I think the point is there, do some homework, there is plenty concerning Joyner.
vinnieActs2030 1 year ago
@Matice21 Seeking out the truth and trying the spirits is what Jesus wants us to do, not to just beleive every claim and every teaching that comes down the pike, as a matter of fact Jesus commends those for trying those that claim to be apostles and are not, Pleas read Revelations 2:2 "I know thy works, and thy labor, and thy patience, and how thou canst not bear them which are evil: and thou hast tried them which say they are apostles, and are not, and hast found them liars:"
vinnieActs2030 1 year ago 2
@vinnieActs2030 Amen! We are to test the spirits. Truth is there is STILL so much junk in the Body of Christ. THIS is the reason America is in the state of immorality, the CHURCH is being purged. I will say this, I THANK GOD HE HAD GRACE for ME when I was LOST, with no one to help me. Since coming to Jesus have I fallen, YES! But like King David, God alone knows the heart of a man. As a warrior, im not moved by a brother or sister who falls short. Todd doesn't have to answer to us.
warriorgal1 1 year ago
@Matice21 That is the problem with our nation (the holy nation within the nation called America). The Ekklessia (Government of God, Parliament of God in the earth, Church) IS A MESS. We have sown to the wind and are reaping the whirl wind. However, by the grace of God there would go I. True, he should not have remarried but let us pray for him. Our ENTIRE NATION has turned from our Lord. We who are strong in the Lord (Fathers) should help a fallen one.
warriorgal1 1 year ago
@Matice21 Today is Election Day. This is the day the Christians BETTER get out and VOTE! People are so concerned with Todd, HOW ABOUT AMERICA falling to the darkest darkness and lose her place in HIS STORY? DID YOU ALL VOTE TODAY? IF NOT, THAT IS THE GREATER SIN.
warriorgal1 1 year ago
Good videos. Keep up the good work exposing these unfruitful works. Cooked up in the kitchens of hell. Nice look. Nice taste. Pernicious teachings.
Join my site in fellowship.
jamesglory1 1 year ago
This whole video Fails....Yes we reap what we sow but thats only when youre under the law & before Christ, everyone was under it! So believers of Christ can repent & bussiness as usual!!! Getcha facts right fam
Matice21 1 year ago
@Matice21 Try explaining that to Ananias & Sapphira Acts 5:1-6.... :-)
vinnieActs2030 1 year ago
@vinnieActs2030 You right, we do reap what we sow...not gonna lie about that becuz an ex-murderer can't expect to get off the hook just becuz he got saved...but as a Christian, I failed alot of times. But I keep going though & I also get stronger thru each fight. Where do it says in the bible that I should stop?
Matice21 1 year ago
@Matice21 I have failed at times too, but repentance means to "turn away" as long as we don't continue to do the same things over and over again until it becomes a lifestyle we will grow and we will get stronger, but if we like Bentley continue to lie, and spread heresy and say we have repented, we only deceive ourselves, keep in mind what Jesus said, "Bring forth therefore fruits worthy of repentance..." Luke 3:8 Todd's adultery is just an outward expression of his continued inward error.
vinnieActs2030 1 year ago
@vinnieActs2030 So this guy is trying to tell us that we only have to repent only once? If we Christians sinned against God while trying to walk in righteousness, then we have to repent & ask God for forgiveness. Where did he say that at? In this video or the book/audio cd?
Matice21 1 year ago
@Matice21 No, what Todd is doing and did is, live a lifestyle of sin, but tries and convinces the world that it's ok. He teaches heresy, he openly lies, he kicked his wife and 3 children to the curb and while he was actually doing all these things by day, he was claiming that he was raising the dead by night! This aught not to be!, repenting and moving on is one thing, but God using you to raise the dead and heal the sick while your sleeping with a staff member is another! It's just wrong!
vinnieActs2030 1 year ago
@vinnieActs2030 hey when was this sermon aired??
the7ronin 1 year ago
God has grace...all men fall...even you vinnie...your life isnt over when you mess up you reap the consequences and you move on with strength knowing what not to do again...look at jonah he ran from God disobeyed him than the whale spit him out and he led one of the most evil cities back to God.
dotcalls 1 year ago
@dotcalls I agree 100% dotcalls, but shall we continue to live in heresy, lies and pride and say it's ok, God loves me? Shall we abuse the grace that God has given us? Todd didn't just make a little mistake, he lives a lifestyle of sin and claims to be equal with King David. This is not the first time Bentley has done what he has done and besides everything else he has never turned from his heresy and false teachings. The real sad part about all this he puts quilt on the innocent...very sad.
vinnieActs2030 1 year ago
If you go to tods fresh fire u s a .He has a video where he says the Lord rebuked him and told him to repent for not talking about the angel .
564bay 1 year ago
I was a part of Morningstar Ministries for a few years- the best thing I ever did was to get the heck out of there. The music is good but the teaching is extremely dangerous. Ministries like this is why so many churches are against the gifts of the Holy Spirit
AirJuvi43 1 year ago
David fell and Todd was exposed...as a quote from video sponsor is wrong. David was exposed by the prophet Nathan. Meanness is so prevalent among the Church...what ever happened to grace? Yes David paid a great price...but it wasn't a judgement from man...it came from God. Please let God take care of this and not be so self-righteous towards others.
edchambers22 1 year ago