Thankfully my dad ran away , saved his money &ran to the nearest busstation(miles away) &tooka bus to winnipeg where he raised me, he attended there nomore then 6 months &is not eligible for the residential school survivor money, that is okay though because no amount of money will replace our lost culture, his brothers and sisters attended there longer and they are now mentally corrupt and re-fuse to teach their language asif they never knew it ,we will neverhave justice in a white man world :'(
@PunkPrincess13itch if he was a resident for even one day, he would be eligible. I don't know if the deadline for application has passed, though. If he was a day student or a student who was living in a home placement, or at a non-eligible school, he isn't eligible. But if he was actually a resident who was admitted to a school covered by the settlement, he would be eligible. Who told him he wasn't eligible?
My mother went to one of those schools. Speaking of the legacy. We have to talk about the suicide rates of natives since then and now. I know that the Canadian government is only counting natives that live on reservations. Not natives who are mixed, or Metis, or have married non natives or no longer live on reservations. Life expectancy is a diffecult thing to judge. How many really didn't make it home, or were broken beings when they did? How are thier children, now? I'm not ok.
@TheBrradsullivan It would depend on where and when. Certainly, life was tough for most aboriginal peoples before and after contact and hasn't necessarily improved. Deaths from Smallpox, Measles, and Syphilis are estimated in the millions spreading out from Pizzaro's first explorations of what would eventually become the USA, some of these people never having SEEN a White person. But then, my husband's grandmother lived to 106 and her sister to 104. It's all relative.
@Mudhooks ...well we know native life expectancy jumped from 40 to 65 in a generation but when you take into accound the millions who lost their lives via war, disease and whom are still dying early due to substance abuse and violence it does make the whole issue a matter of perspective. plus you have to ask yourself are the comforts of modern material wealth really worth ones identity? i dont think so, id rather live with purpose and die young then wallow on the fringes of a welfare state
@TheBrradsullivan Before contact there was no smallpox, syphillis and many other illnesses.Also there were no carcinogens being produced from mining and manufacturing.
I just thought about something. In the 1800s and early 1900s European were doing bad things to their own children back home in Europe. Child labour, children working in factories, being starved and beaten. If they could barely empathize with their poor now wonder they could not empathize with another race of people. Its very sad really.
And most of the people of canada still bitch about our aboriginals, call them drunks, don't hire them because they think they're drug addicts, and call them down any chance they get. They also believe all they do is leech money off the government. The physical carnage of the aboriginal people might be a thing of the past, but there is still a mass amount of hatred and racism going on towards them. It's sad really.
my grandma also told me a lot of horrible stories of her times in there.. of how "priests" would get the other lil boys to go and rape their female students.. either that, or boy on boy, female on femalel.. you name it... anything you could possibly think of took place.
You know what's sad? When I was in grade 10, the Ottawa bishop went to speak at my school and tolled us that earlier that day he had to go to parliament and apologize for the residential schools. Now that would have been fine if he didn't add, "unfortunately a FEW bad things happened at those schools. I mean, a LOT of good things happened, but a FEW bad things had occurred." Talk about undermining the Church's darkest legacy in Canada. As a métis, I was ready to nail him for his audacity.
@Darcksaac I've always said that an apology should be an apology. No added ifs or buts. We all know that there were children who enjoyed their time at the schools or whose home lives made life at the school "better" than life at home. But the scope of the bad far outweighs the "good". There were teachers and Child Care Workers who loved and did the best for the students and they should be commended. But diminishing the evil does not diminish the responsibility.
@Mudhooks Im sorry who in there right mind would enjoy a place like the , taken away from your home,family,heritage, every time you speak your native tounge you get beat raped or even killed. enjoyed their time there are you retarded. I would pretend to be happy too living with peolpe like that otherwise its your ass literaly. you sound like you would fit right with them.
@Darcksaac I am a cree native both my grandmas aswell as granpas were in a mission. They all have stories that will make you cry. I do not beleive in people that would cary gods name in this matter or god at all we survived hundreds of years without gods influence. I am commenting to you because i wasnt able to comment to darcksaac about the church and all that bad shit that happend there,
@Darcksaac wow that bishop is such an idiot, many children died in those schools and unspeakable crimes happened in these hellholes!!! Really, as a Canadian, I am ashamed to say that these crimes happened in my country. I would like to apologize to all the aboriginals who have suffered in those schools and I would like to thank all the aboriginals such as Louis Riel who fought for the rights of people. And there were A LOT of bad things that happened in those wretched schools.
came across this video and thought it might be educational. always interested in learning my nations history. I'm not at all surprised these schools were built for the purpose of assimilation, because that was the popular thinking at the time. i have no strong feelings of disagreement with what happened or agreement with what did. As for the "Common Experience Payment agreement" thumbs up for reparations and the little difference it will have.
I don't know, I still think the Blacks of Nova Scotia were treated more badly then the Indians in the Residential Schools. In the '50s, the Indians started to have homes, good ones, with plumbing and such, while over in Preston, Cape Negro, Birchtown, and Tracadie they had nothing, and were treated worse. Not saying that the Indians weren't treated badly, 'cause I know they were treated badly. But I still think that the Blacks were treated worse than the Indians. That's my "what if"...
@Ian74263 Well, I don't know that taking children away from their families for 7 entire years without the ability to go home for holidays; feeding them substandard food; forcing them to not speak their languages and beating them if they did; subjecting them humiliation, sexual abuse, mental abuse, and physical abuse and calling them liars if they reported if they did doesn't constitute "worse" treatment than that received by the blacks of Nova Scotia.
For the record, Shubenacadie, near Truro, was one of the worst schools in the entire Residential School system. I would suggest you read "Out of the Depths: The Experiences of Mi'kmaw Children at the Indian Residential School at Shubenacadie, Nova Scotia" by Isabelle Knockwood or ""We Were Not The Savages." by David Paul
Aside from being in Regina and having opened in 1890 and closing in 1900, I couldn't find any information on the Regina Indian Residential School. It was run by the Presbyterian Church. Gordon's IRS was about 125 km from Regina.
Apparently though, according to Wikipedia (look up Pinkie Road in wiki) "The Presbyterian Indian Residential School Cemetery is also located in this vicinity north of Dewdney Avenue and east of Pinkie Road". The school should have been close to this cemetery.
I come from the same reserve Thomas Moore came from (Opaskwayak Indian Reserve) but from a different era. The train lines from this area were south & west from April 1929. The Order to attend Boarding Schools began when the Treaties were signed respective of their No.'s in 187? I was forced to attend Prince Albert Indian Residential School 1962 to 67. We were dissamiliated from our own people even when we came back. I still dress in blue jeans. Can't even speak my own Cree language!
@DarkSydeDave Most schools closed in the 1970s but there were a few open into the 1980s. In 1996 he last federally-run residential school, the Gordon Residential School, closed in Saskatchewan."
What they don't show you is the real way you were dressed when the cameras .were not there i went to Assumtion Res in AB .1958 when i was age 4.but they did not keep proper records.
Problem is, the idea was, to "civilize" ppl, But as it is, in the educational system, there are a lot of perverts too. Such ppl flock to the armies, so they can live out their perversions, or go to the educational instititions, or work in slaughter houses, You just have to look at the abuse thats going on, especially in the churches, Even though, most of the church ppl are fine and caring ppl Its the rotten apples that make it a bad system
If the natives were "dirty people" why would someone rape them? They were no doubt abused and mistreated in these schools. I have been told the abuse ended towards the 70s/80s and the schools in the 80s/90s were less abusive compared to before.
The holocaust was not just about killing but abuse and torture of people based on ethnicity, religion, sexuality, and disability. Look up pictures of the holocaust and dr. josef mengele and klaus barbie and you'll see it was not just killing.
there is no doubt that native canadians suffered for years up until the 1970s due to residential schools but you must also remember that many today that involved in drugs, alcohol, and gangs did not ever see these schools.
Why are holocaust and gulag survivors not alcoholics and drug addicts? These problems in the native community are not all the fault of the white man.
We aren't talking of on generation of survivors. We are talking GENERATIONS of survivors, torn away from their homes and families and sent back with absolutely no skills to homes where their cultures were being systematically destroyed.
Damaged children grow up to be damaged adults and entire communities of damaged people cannot function. Firstly, if the first generation abuses alcohol and have children, many of those suffer from FAS.
The communities could not cope with the number of damaged people. Some went into the cities where they faced racism and had little or no skills with which to earn a living. Generations had been taught to hate themselves and their culture.
I would point out that many survivors of the Holocaust suffered from mental illness (as did the few that survived the Gulags.. Many of the children of the survivors suffer from problems caused by their parent's experiences.
Alcoholism is a problem all over Russia. It would be hard to separate the children of those who were the children of those sent off to the Gulags. Many of them were taken from their parents and put in "orphanages". I'm sure that few of them came out without problems.
although ABUSE of Natives was much worse. Also their will never be peace between the white race and we natives.WE natives will never accept the white race. The crimes and rape of Native CHILDREN will never be forgotten!!!
The problems and the root causes of the alcoholism and drug abuse in Native communities is well-known and well documented. It has been clearly shown that the Residential School system and the abuses suffered by so many generations, in some cases as many as 5, of children was one major cause of these problems.
Correction, up until the 1980's. One point you made is true, many First Nations people today did not expereince the atrocities of resdiential school, however there's this thing called intergenerational trauma, look it up!!! When you grow up not learning the values of respect for self and others, being repeatedly told your are nothing surprisingly you begin to believe this lie. When you enter adulthood with this false sense of self you tend to portray this image in your daily life.
@morrison0411 ...that is EXACTLY the problem. its sad too. although many natives are now healing and we are getting stronger!....this type of intergenerational abuse is very severe and has roots in Post Tramatic Stress Disorder of our ENTIRE people,mostly because we natives are SURVIVORS of GENOCIDE.this problem affects entire native communities. the pressure of native life is extreme compared to privileged white people.
1. If you took the time to do a quick google search of Residential Schools in Canada you will quickly realize that they were open long past 1970. Infact, the closure of the last residential school wasn't until 1996.
2. The focus of the Holocaust was to physically kill the person. Where as, the goal of the residential school was to "kill the Indian in the child".......
......wo totally different concepts. One leave nothing physically, the other leaves a physical being with nothing inside. Don't tell me that if when you were a child you were beatin for speaking english (i am assuming it is your first language) and raped repeatedly, you wouldn't become a emotional reck, thinking that what you experienced for so many years was normal, and unable to function in many social settings. Holocaust = dead people... Residential school= Dead Souls
I am not CANADIAN and i dont wish to be but i am Romanian...I am very angry at the canadians for doing this to you guys =[ I really and YES i agree THIS LAND BELONGS TO THE NATIVE INDIANS! You guys are amazing...I would give anything so i can have native indian blood in my veins but too bad =]!!
Florasweetgirl: Just curious...why would you "give anything" to be Native when this would likely mean incredible hardships, discrimination and poverty for you?
our people should watch how the peoples of the world do things we as natives have power so thing no relgion can give and its safe no its a company now not a religion this is still our land not the goverments its our s some day people of the world will see that you can not kill a spirit there is no weapon that kills a spirit its on going for ever its like trying to kill a ghost you can,t
I'm afraid I can't remember. I thought I had credited it on the video but apparently not, though it may have been there in the original credits before I had to mangle it for YouTube to upload.
I would tell the governmnet to keep their crooked dirty money. Alll that happens to that money is it goes out to the people who gave it out in the first place. for what it gets spent on. government get their hands on anything payouts they get back. I get the feeling europeans have not been very nice people around the world. This has made me have nothing to do with religious celebrations like christmas and easter. It shocks me that people support religions that aided this kind of thing
@14CPO I find it interesting that people think that whites or "europeans" are generally not good people. Lets look at some facts. Countries run by white people are MANY times more prosperous, healthy, and yes peaceful then most countries run by races of other colors.
Examples... Look at what happened in Haiti since it was taken over by a different race. Look at the countless lives slaughtered, raped, and victimized every day in Africa. Look at almost every Muslim nation. Need I go on...
Firstly, no one here has suggested that Whites or "europeans" are not generally good people.
What you find so "interesting" is what happens after colonial powers fuck around with countries, play favourites with social groups within a nation without regard to the original cultural make-up of said nation, and then fuck off leaving the country after having drained it of what they want.... And then continue to meddle in the affairs (as in the case of Iraq) by colluding with factions within a nation
Secondly, I fail to see how systematically dismantling a culture bu forcing indigenous peoples of a country to stop speaking their languages and to stop celebrating their religious rites and to force them off their own land; removing by force generations of children, allowing them to be fed substandard food, molested by those put in charge of them, beaten, and raped; and then told they should be "grateful" to the people who did it in any way makes whites or "europeans" look anything but bad.
And, it should be pointed out that Ancient Zimbabwe was a far greater and cultured society at its heyday than any European nation was. Vietnam was, as well, before the French started fucking around with it.
And Haiti, if you bothered to read a history book was originally inhabited by an indigenous population which was systematically exterminated by whites who then removed slaves from Africa to toil themselves to death for them... and then fucked off when they no longer had anything to gain.
India is about the only nation that could possible be seen to have "gained" by the Colonial intervention and even so, what wealth the Colonials amassed in the country was removed by the whites and not used to any advantage for the Indian people.
@kefri916...thats because the WHITE race invaded native land then sells native resources keeping the money for the white race.of course the natives would be poor. if the major OIL companies gave back all the oil money from OUR NATIVE land we would be rich.sorry no race wants to be under european white SLAVERY...i mean "freedom"...lol...or "democracy"...your on native land...go back to europe and tell me the same thing
@14CPO 1 yes we all know white people fucked up the world; however, had any other race become as powerful over thousands of years of invasions and forced beleif (and this wasnt only against non whites, it was against other whites as well) would have ended up with a similar outcome. people are people and every so often power hungry inhuman bastards run the show; but the sources of these problems are dead now, so everyone else has to try to do what they can to improve.
@14CPO also christianity isnt a soley european religion. and religious institutions cannot account for the religion itself. by your definition, no religious holidays should be celebrated by anyone because some of the churches behind these holidays have done horrible things. this is true for pretty much all religions. also name five christians alive today who know of the residential schools and support it. the poison comes from the people in power. as stated earlier before.
@supernerd1300 actually it wasnt the "christians" who did this... it was the "catholics"... we arent the same.. im christian... thats a complete different religion
It wasn't just the Catholics... There were Anglican, Baptist, Methodist, Presbyterian, Roman Catholic, United Church of Canada, and Moravian-run schools. Those are all Christian churches.
my father inlaw keeps trying to get his residential money but whoever hes getting for help cant find a thing like he never did someone should put up a list of all the ppl on youtube or a yearbook or something to help prove they went to a residential school so they can show that they did
Unfortunately, there are people for whom there are no records. The vast majority there are records for. If your father-in-law has any information of his own that would show his residence, it would help. Report cards, letters, photos.... His student number... I don't know a lot about it but I know that the government kept a LOT of records. Bands also had records which some bands have been reluctant to forward on to the government. I don't know why. He might try checking with his band to see.
I am from Alert Bay, BC and the Residential School still stands. There is a lot of debate whether to tear it down of let it stand. If we do that, then it's like it never happened. I have heard a lot of horror stories about how it was. Believe me, this was not discrimination in such small detail. Even after First Nations people weren't forced to attend residential schools anymore, there were Indian Day schools where treatment was less severe but none the less unacceptable.
I was a child when My late mom told me she went to school a short time in her life in chapleau, I never new nor she ever mentioned anything of such things of what I hear happening in those days...I'am so sad to find out today to see that one of the schools she attended is one of them...I can't stop crying for her...
the catholic priests took indians of the us,canada,texas,mexico,peru all over this continent!!! forcing them to speak a european tongue in the missions.
when did this all end? my dad talks about dating native women and being good friends with there brothers and stuff when they were young... so like late 1970's early 80's. but weren't they in residential schools? my friend just tried to tell me that its because all that bad stuff that happened happened in like the late 1800's only. which i know is not true. so can someone explain how the schools worked in the 70's 80's ??? was it manditory?
Most schools closed in the 1970s but there were a few open into the 1980s. By the 1970s the schools were being run by the Bands. By the late 1960s it was no longer mandatory that the children go but often it was the only place for them to get an education without going into the major cities.
In the late 1800's there were often day schools or boarding schools near communities but by the turn of the century, the government viewed assimilation through removing the children from their communities. That was when forcible removal began. Parents who did not want their children to leave were forced by the RCMP and the Indian Agents to relinquish their children/ They were removed at age 6, generally and did not return home until they were "of age", usually 15.
By the late 1940s, some children were allowed to return home for holidays but only if the Indian Agent deemed the home "fit". By the 1950s, most children were home for Christmas and again for summer holidays. On some reserves where the Residential School was withing walking distance, some children did attend as Day Students even as far back as the 1940s.
In the 1970s and 1980s, the schools, as I said were Band run, though at the beginning, their teachers and Child Care Workers were government employees. They were generally Native employees who were paid by the government. Student were not forced to go to the schools at this point but if there were problems at home, they often went to the schools. Many went home on weekends and all holidays.
Those eligible had to have attended prior to the date when a particular school closed "officially" as a government-run school (or jointly run by the government and church). If a school was taken over by a Band and the band was solely responsible for the running of the school, it was not considered to be "government run".
BOARDING SCHOOLS ACCEPTED CHILDREN WHOSE PARENTS VOLUNTARILY LEFT TO PERSUE A BETTER EDUCATION. NATIVE AMERICANS WERE FORCED TO LEAVE HOME, we had no choice. all 4 of my grandparents went to residential school; they are still dealing with trauma. My grandfather expereicned electro-shock therapy, DO YOU THINK THAT IS VOLUNTARY IN BOARDING SCHOOL???
Had our people not been assimilated, we wouldn't have the disease amongst our people (HIV/AIDS) we wouldn't racism against our young women who disappear almost daily from the west and we wouldn't have to live on fucking reserves where there is NO LAND, NO JOBS, NOTHING. We would have been the true people of the land, but ignorant fucks like you who know nothing about shit decide that we need to be assimilated beacause of our beautiful tribal dances. Screw that.,
..and if they'd been 'left behind' and not school, kept on the margins where they were happy...where would they have been onw, and what accusations would be levelled at the authorities?
So, again, taking them away from the love and comfort of their families is "okay" as far as you are concerned because "at least they got an education".
In fact, most communities had schools where they could have attended or ones could have been provided. Instead, they were taken hundreds of miles away for no reason other than to ensure that they would be indoctrinated into White society which didn't work anyway because they got little or no education and and the bonds of family and community were irrevocably lost.
And, as previously noted, for the most part, until the 1960s, the schools did little in the way of educating, using the children, instead for farm or industrial labour at the school. Most were returned home at the end of their schooling with a grade 4 level education and no ability to actually get a job in the "real world" because of racism.
How much more info do people need before they are shown the perverted& evil history of the christians!?? Love was never a word in their vocabulary, but they sure do understand power & money their true god. Indians were considered "useless" eaters and corporate amerikka needs taxpayers!!! most important which is why you cannot live off the land. YOU MUST PAY TAXES to someone, so take the children & indoctrinate to be as dumb & indoctrinated as the white who also gladly pays his taxes!
"1996 - The last federally run residential school, the Gordon Residential School, closes in Saskatchewan." The AFN website... I did mention this date in the video.
And you refer to day schools and this video is about residential schools. I would suggest that if you want to have a video about day schools you make one yourself. It isn't that hard to do. That way you can stop getting all bent out of shape about my video.
I didn't "forget" the Day School children. As the Day Schools are not part of the settlement and as the day students, while they also had a hard time, they were not removed from their parents. They could at least go home every day. I am not saying they didn't suffer abuse but slamming me because I made a video about the Residential Schools and didn't mention day students is hardly fair.
i feel so guilty as a white man for what my ancestors did to the first nations....i know it's the seed of all the challenges the first nations face today. We need to give something back: compassion, understanding, and most of all a solid social infrastructure to help a people we tried to destroy.
Im white, and am appaled at what was done in the name of 'religion' Im a 7th generation descendant on maternal side, Oka Mohawk, I do not know native spirituality, but its got to be way more true than the catholic way.
I just cant believe my indian brothers and sisters who still live by the cross, I mean really i just dont know! Our people were fine until the whiteman came over with his "devils, hells and bibles"
Some attempt to negate their responsibility of the past wrongs and reconcile these acts of inhumanity with "it was done with good intent". Those who choose to subscribe to this inconsiderate notion forget one of their truest sayings, that "the road to hell was built on good intention"! I wasn't aware our Canadian brothers and sisters were subject to the same paternalistic and racist legislation. Thanks for the info! Cheers
and so young girls were seen as "age appropriate" to perform, sad yes, but not ALWAYS CRIMINAL ABUSE, sometimes its just how they thought things should be. Nowadays our laws are much more appropriate because we cannot have so many children workign as it will interfere with the qualit if eduction, and offset canada revenue, so now you CANNOT work by law under age 14. So just remember not everything you see here was actually unfair. But there are some things that are aboviously ridiculously cruel
....now adays its mcdonalds and age restrictions apply, ....there was no law back then, dont forget how many woman and men we lost to the war, either who were overseas actually fighting or had aready fallen, ...there is still work to be done, a world to develope, unfortunately it was hard times, but labour for children back then was not such a crime....sexual abuse is a crime no matter what, but also because of population reasons they did become mothers very young, .....
And as for the working they had to do....also children all around the world have earned their keep doing labour, most boys have worked their entire lives, that generation is dying out now, and remaining on welfare is becoming the new norm.
Our world will fall apart if work is not instilled as an important part of life. It should not be like slavery, but teaching kids the skills of the time, like back then it was farming and cooking and cleaning....,
......continued......This was originally to administer education to chikdren whose villagesotherwise could not afford to provide. and also to give them a common lanuage so that they may be comfortable in the world, and educated the same as other white canadian children too. Sexual abuse in itself is a personal choice of the person performing such horrid things to children. But it was done in alot of residential school not just Indian schools. Most Catholic school had the strap .....remember?
Oh dear, this is a shame that this kind of stuff happened to children at all. But to inform all Native Americans watching, this happened to american, canadian, asian, european, etc countries ALL OVER THE WORLD during that time period. At age 12 girls were often married, and subjected to child bearing as soon as their bodies could do so. This was not an act of racism. This was the norm, and its an individual choice of nuns and priests to abuse children it was not a common thing in all schools.
Children "all over the world" were not systematically removed from the love and care of their families and communities and forced to work at age 6 instead of getting an education that white children across Canada were getting. White children could go home (unless they were in boarding schools, in which case, unlike Native children, they were allowed to go home on holidays). Unlike the native children, white parents had the choice of sending their children to boarding schools.
At age 12, in the late 1800s, children in Canada did not marry and bear children. That was against the law.
I don't need to "inform Native people" about the realities of Canadian life, especially as much if what you have said pertaining to "average Canadian children" is nonsense. Should we simply allow children to be abused because "that happens all over the world"?
In evaluating the claims, the realities of the harshness of the Canadian culture in general was taken into consideration, as well as the "usual" level of corporal in schools and in homes. The level of abuse in Indian Residential schools was beyond that which you would have found in any Canadian school. The Residential schools were Dickensian in their methods of dealing with children.
Children in some schools were beaten, malnourished, force-fed food which was not fit for consumption, denied ant sort of human comfort and love. In some schools, siblings were denied the right to talk and touch each other for the entirety of their school "career" (I know because my father in law spent 8 years in Mohawk Institute where he was allowed to talk to his sister for 15 minutes at Christmas. They were not allowed to hug or touch.)
"This was originally to administer education to chikdren whose villagesotherwise .... etc.."
-- Children originally were educated on reserve. The government policy (which you can easily research) was designed to remove children from the influence of their communities, churn them back out onto the reserves where the education they received (if they got more than a grade 4 education and had no possible chance of using that education as very few would ever find a job in the "white world".
"Sexual abuse in itself is a personal choice of the person performing such horrid things to children. But it was done in alot of residential school...."
You would dismiss the sexual abuse of children because this "happened in a lot of residential schools"? The fact is that when sexual abuse was reported, nothing was done. The government dismissed such allegations and did nothing. Abusers didn't just abuse a single child. they abused hundreds. Hundreds... over many years, sometimes.
Abuse may have been a "personal choice" but it was administered and defended by the church and government authorities to children who had no choice about being subjected to it and with no recourse, and without being able to turn to a single person to protect them, for years on end.
To suggest that this should simply be dismissed based on the completely false excuse that this was some sort of cultural norm in nonsensical. It may be your "personal opinion" but it is offensive to suggest that Native people do not have the right to redress is idiotic.
In fact, in the case of Mohawk Institute, the principal made a personal profit from selling produce from the school farm while the children who broke their backs producing it received substandard and spoiled food. Even when he was ordered to give the children pasturised milk (which was the law) he ignored those directives for several years. Children who harvested eggs and raised chicken received a single egg at Easter and chicken at Christmas.
yes the video runs fast, and the pause button is disabled, i had to keep pressing reverse to read and see, you can tell some still want to keep this a quiet. . awful
No one is trying to "keep this quiet". As I explained in the lengthy blurb to the right of your screen, I uploaded this to LiveVideo and it runs fine. I uploaded it here and for some reason, it runs very fast, though the music is fine. The pause button works just fine on my computer.
this is just like been is foster homes,,abuse is there too..all kinds rape ur kids child and family put u there and who is responsable for that ,,,take u away from ur home put u somewhere is even worst who will pay that damage .....
both my parents and their parents were victims of these horrible schools... i hope the nuns and priests are burning in hell for doing this to my ancestors because they kill out language and for some people our culture
My In-Laws and my Parents were victims in the residential schools. By being there they took our speach and Heritage away from us. Why were we punished for speaking our Tounge, but yet we were forced to speak theirs?!?? I don't understand that one? I myself feel that the money will never bring us to our roots. Plus, was the money a payout for the rest of their work, that we did for them.... mmm I wonder?... I pray for the people who treated my ancestors with such disrespect.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Money will end. It will end by design or it will end because we say it. The root of all of societies problems is in fact money. The idea of profit is what causes polution. The idea of profit is what holds back futuristic technologies that are currently available. The idea of money is what keeps people on reservations throughout canada. People working for money is just an advanced form of slavery.
But, Lion, we Christians need to come to grips with the fact that our ancestors in the faith did this to aboriginal kids in our country.
It's not your fault and my fault that it happened, back then. However it is up to us to see that our churches change to respect aboriginal people, and work to change the attitude, society and practices that led to those abuses. It's a hard thing to do, with the legacy of that time still fresh in people's lives and hearts. But we have to try, right?
Some people used it to abuse the kids: and partly because the society painted aboriginals as lesser and not worthy to be treated the same as white kids. Mosheer, that is horrible that they found bones of little kids under the school.
Some of the schools were good and kids liked them. Other schools were not good and kids got abused in every way you can think of, or it sounds like, some places kids were killed too.
It was very wrong. It was not good for kids of any culture to be taken from their families to school. But it was worse for aboriginal kids to be taken and forced to be some other culture. For sure, it was done with "the best of intentions" but the result was disastrous, and some people did not go into that work with good intentions.
yes and they all did this in the name of...the one who taught some of the greatest lessons of love and said "Forgive them Lord they know not what they do" What Irony
many, if not all, white ppl who are wealthy and rich today got their fortunes from slavery, stealing Native land, and killing Mexicans; and hands down these spoils of conquest and war to their sons...
LadyJustice66 Mormons Believe the Lamanites are USA INDIANS look how there BOOK OF MORMON GOD treats the USA INDIANS-->
Book of Mormon ALMA 3:6"And the SKINS of the Lamanites (USA INDIANS) were DARK, according to the MARK which was set upon their fathers, WHICH was a CURSE upon them BECAUSE OF their TRANSGRESSION and their REBELLION..
Book of Mormon ALMA 3:9 "And it came to pass that whosoever did mingle his seed with that of the Lamanites (USA INDIANS) did bring the SAME CURSE upon his seed..
Lets talk about the british and french priests who DID hand out smallpox blankets and used smallpox cultures in the "Holy Water" doing sick death baptisms against the parents wishes at the first schools.ITS DOCUMENTED FACT: MURDER TO"SAVE"THEIR SOULS.Sick and insane zombie worshipping christians need to face up.
The Bording School Priests were there to rape, A LOT!
Why do you think there is so much alcoholism and pain?!
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What happened to the people you speak of is terrible and wrong.Although we should remember not to blame people born today that accept a christian belief,some people who accept christianity are good people.Yes we should not forget and help thoughs who have been wronged, but we should not become biased because of individuals of the past,nor should we as humans segregate,for many people have been raped,murdered,forced in religion,and slavery.We need to reach out to everyone,and not be selective.
Regardless of the corruption of government of today and from yesterday,we should NOT treat the people born here today like they are the enemy, no one chooses there skin colour and the spirit knows no bounds. War over colour is not the solution, we are all brothers and sisters in one way or another.
My grandmother went to the The Residential school in Spanish, ON, and she will not tell me a thing about it. I am the third generation and I am greatly affected my this because my mom had me at a young age and i lived with my grandmother because my mom wasnt old enough to get a house on the crown land yet, and she didnt want to live on the 'white' land. I lived with my grandma for 5 yrs and I sat there and watched her drink and cry. But she is trying to heal, with the help of family and friends!
I know beleive that we are saying we should be "devoid of wrong doings". We are saying that no culture should have to suffer like the way our people did and still do to this day! We were robbed of our culture, families and pride. How would you feel if some one took your child away and you never see them again? Please do not judge us until you have walked in our mocasins.
true also white ppl are so overrated now and since ive been livin in edmonton kids said nasty things and cops wont do anything soon the whole world of people will be fighting for themeselves you wont know anyone
Thankfully my dad ran away , saved his money &ran to the nearest busstation(miles away) &tooka bus to winnipeg where he raised me, he attended there nomore then 6 months &is not eligible for the residential school survivor money, that is okay though because no amount of money will replace our lost culture, his brothers and sisters attended there longer and they are now mentally corrupt and re-fuse to teach their language asif they never knew it ,we will neverhave justice in a white man world :'(
PunkPrincess13itch 1 month ago
@PunkPrincess13itch if he was a resident for even one day, he would be eligible. I don't know if the deadline for application has passed, though. If he was a day student or a student who was living in a home placement, or at a non-eligible school, he isn't eligible. But if he was actually a resident who was admitted to a school covered by the settlement, he would be eligible. Who told him he wasn't eligible?
Mudhooks 1 month ago
they removed all and any children from their homes...........
musicbystarlee 2 months ago
there was one guy who went to this place when he was 4 years old a child..
ownzz33 4 months ago
My mother went to one of those schools. Speaking of the legacy. We have to talk about the suicide rates of natives since then and now. I know that the Canadian government is only counting natives that live on reservations. Not natives who are mixed, or Metis, or have married non natives or no longer live on reservations. Life expectancy is a diffecult thing to judge. How many really didn't make it home, or were broken beings when they did? How are thier children, now? I'm not ok.
MsRedqueen 5 months ago
My grandmother said her expierience there was great. my dad's was torture :(
SerenityBunni 6 months ago
id like to know what the life expectancy was of these people before and after european arrival
TheBrradsullivan 8 months ago
@TheBrradsullivan It would depend on where and when. Certainly, life was tough for most aboriginal peoples before and after contact and hasn't necessarily improved. Deaths from Smallpox, Measles, and Syphilis are estimated in the millions spreading out from Pizzaro's first explorations of what would eventually become the USA, some of these people never having SEEN a White person. But then, my husband's grandmother lived to 106 and her sister to 104. It's all relative.
Mudhooks 8 months ago
@Mudhooks Mortality rates are higher and life-expectancy lower in Aboriginal populations than other populations across the US and Canada.
Mudhooks 8 months ago
@Mudhooks ...well we know native life expectancy jumped from 40 to 65 in a generation but when you take into accound the millions who lost their lives via war, disease and whom are still dying early due to substance abuse and violence it does make the whole issue a matter of perspective. plus you have to ask yourself are the comforts of modern material wealth really worth ones identity? i dont think so, id rather live with purpose and die young then wallow on the fringes of a welfare state
TheBrradsullivan 8 months ago
@TheBrradsullivan Exactly.
Mudhooks 8 months ago
@TheBrradsullivan Before contact there was no smallpox, syphillis and many other illnesses.Also there were no carcinogens being produced from mining and manufacturing.
WarriorOfTheOldWays1 5 months ago
Oh, and I forgot to add how they terribly mistreated orphans (terrible conditions in orphanages).
dramaqueen465 8 months ago
I just thought about something. In the 1800s and early 1900s European were doing bad things to their own children back home in Europe. Child labour, children working in factories, being starved and beaten. If they could barely empathize with their poor now wonder they could not empathize with another race of people. Its very sad really.
dramaqueen465 8 months ago
And most of the people of canada still bitch about our aboriginals, call them drunks, don't hire them because they think they're drug addicts, and call them down any chance they get. They also believe all they do is leech money off the government. The physical carnage of the aboriginal people might be a thing of the past, but there is still a mass amount of hatred and racism going on towards them. It's sad really.
crackparty 10 months ago
my grandma also told me a lot of horrible stories of her times in there.. of how "priests" would get the other lil boys to go and rape their female students.. either that, or boy on boy, female on femalel.. you name it... anything you could possibly think of took place.
Blaksparkle1 11 months ago
Disgusting part of our countries past.
mrpilot102 1 year ago
douglas was in for teen recovery and we had to use the mission in williams lake spooky
douglascbellerose 1 year ago
ALL NATIVE PEOPLE FROM ALASKA TO TIERRA DEL FUEGO( CHILE) ARE ONE PEOPLE, DON'T LET WHITE MAN DIVIDE US.
99cacahuate 1 year ago
My father was in a Residential school . I remember him telling my mother about all the abuse he went though . : (
NanaKite 1 year ago
You know what's sad? When I was in grade 10, the Ottawa bishop went to speak at my school and tolled us that earlier that day he had to go to parliament and apologize for the residential schools. Now that would have been fine if he didn't add, "unfortunately a FEW bad things happened at those schools. I mean, a LOT of good things happened, but a FEW bad things had occurred." Talk about undermining the Church's darkest legacy in Canada. As a métis, I was ready to nail him for his audacity.
Darcksaac 1 year ago
@Darcksaac I've always said that an apology should be an apology. No added ifs or buts. We all know that there were children who enjoyed their time at the schools or whose home lives made life at the school "better" than life at home. But the scope of the bad far outweighs the "good". There were teachers and Child Care Workers who loved and did the best for the students and they should be commended. But diminishing the evil does not diminish the responsibility.
Mudhooks 1 year ago
@Mudhooks Im sorry who in there right mind would enjoy a place like the , taken away from your home,family,heritage, every time you speak your native tounge you get beat raped or even killed. enjoyed their time there are you retarded. I would pretend to be happy too living with peolpe like that otherwise its your ass literaly. you sound like you would fit right with them.
bleepbleepblah 1 year ago
@Darcksaac I am a cree native both my grandmas aswell as granpas were in a mission. They all have stories that will make you cry. I do not beleive in people that would cary gods name in this matter or god at all we survived hundreds of years without gods influence. I am commenting to you because i wasnt able to comment to darcksaac about the church and all that bad shit that happend there,
bleepbleepblah 1 year ago
@Darcksaac That bishop was recently convicted of possession of child pornography, himself.
Mudhooks 8 months ago
@Darcksaac wow that bishop is such an idiot, many children died in those schools and unspeakable crimes happened in these hellholes!!! Really, as a Canadian, I am ashamed to say that these crimes happened in my country. I would like to apologize to all the aboriginals who have suffered in those schools and I would like to thank all the aboriginals such as Louis Riel who fought for the rights of people. And there were A LOT of bad things that happened in those wretched schools.
MusicLuver78901 6 months ago
My Father went to one of these schools.
Please watch the video I made interviewing him for my Grade 12 Final Task.
Search "Interview with Residential School Survivor". It should be the first search result. Or go to my profile.
xBeEmox 1 year ago
Excellent, informational video about those dark days, dark times...very well done vid. Thank you.
Sleepingsun4 1 year ago
came across this video and thought it might be educational. always interested in learning my nations history. I'm not at all surprised these schools were built for the purpose of assimilation, because that was the popular thinking at the time. i have no strong feelings of disagreement with what happened or agreement with what did. As for the "Common Experience Payment agreement" thumbs up for reparations and the little difference it will have.
SlightlyBent2 1 year ago
I don't know, I still think the Blacks of Nova Scotia were treated more badly then the Indians in the Residential Schools. In the '50s, the Indians started to have homes, good ones, with plumbing and such, while over in Preston, Cape Negro, Birchtown, and Tracadie they had nothing, and were treated worse. Not saying that the Indians weren't treated badly, 'cause I know they were treated badly. But I still think that the Blacks were treated worse than the Indians. That's my "what if"...
Ian74263 1 year ago
@Ian74263 Well, I don't know that taking children away from their families for 7 entire years without the ability to go home for holidays; feeding them substandard food; forcing them to not speak their languages and beating them if they did; subjecting them humiliation, sexual abuse, mental abuse, and physical abuse and calling them liars if they reported if they did doesn't constitute "worse" treatment than that received by the blacks of Nova Scotia.
Mudhooks 1 year ago
For the record, Shubenacadie, near Truro, was one of the worst schools in the entire Residential School system. I would suggest you read "Out of the Depths: The Experiences of Mi'kmaw Children at the Indian Residential School at Shubenacadie, Nova Scotia" by Isabelle Knockwood or ""We Were Not The Savages." by David Paul
Mudhooks 1 year ago
Does anyone know where the Regina Residential School was located?
JazMackJak 1 year ago
Aside from being in Regina and having opened in 1890 and closing in 1900, I couldn't find any information on the Regina Indian Residential School. It was run by the Presbyterian Church. Gordon's IRS was about 125 km from Regina.
Apparently though, according to Wikipedia (look up Pinkie Road in wiki) "The Presbyterian Indian Residential School Cemetery is also located in this vicinity north of Dewdney Avenue and east of Pinkie Road". The school should have been close to this cemetery.
Mudhooks 1 year ago
I come from the same reserve Thomas Moore came from (Opaskwayak Indian Reserve) but from a different era. The train lines from this area were south & west from April 1929. The Order to attend Boarding Schools began when the Treaties were signed respective of their No.'s in 187? I was forced to attend Prince Albert Indian Residential School 1962 to 67. We were dissamiliated from our own people even when we came back. I still dress in blue jeans. Can't even speak my own Cree language!
Cyberonimo 1 year ago
When were residential scools ended? what date and year
DarkSydeDave 1 year ago
@DarkSydeDave Most schools closed in the 1970s but there were a few open into the 1980s. In 1996 he last federally-run residential school, the Gordon Residential School, closed in Saskatchewan."
Mudhooks 1 year ago
What they don't show you is the real way you were dressed when the cameras .were not there i went to Assumtion Res in AB .1958 when i was age 4.but they did not keep proper records.
abcd88808 1 year ago
Problem is, the idea was, to "civilize" ppl, But as it is, in the educational system, there are a lot of perverts too. Such ppl flock to the armies, so they can live out their perversions, or go to the educational instititions, or work in slaughter houses, You just have to look at the abuse thats going on, especially in the churches, Even though, most of the church ppl are fine and caring ppl Its the rotten apples that make it a bad system
lunafringe10 1 year ago
my kookkum was in a resisdential school, they broke her legs and arms, i hate what they done too her and what she had to go through., :(
MzMcLean23 2 years ago
I really cannot understand, why a human would do something like this to another human?
It breaks my heart to see all these children who suffered from forced to adopt another culture, and never been treated as human..
meshmis 2 years ago
If the natives were "dirty people" why would someone rape them? They were no doubt abused and mistreated in these schools. I have been told the abuse ended towards the 70s/80s and the schools in the 80s/90s were less abusive compared to before.
The holocaust was not just about killing but abuse and torture of people based on ethnicity, religion, sexuality, and disability. Look up pictures of the holocaust and dr. josef mengele and klaus barbie and you'll see it was not just killing.
joshster89 2 years ago
there is no doubt that native canadians suffered for years up until the 1970s due to residential schools but you must also remember that many today that involved in drugs, alcohol, and gangs did not ever see these schools.
Why are holocaust and gulag survivors not alcoholics and drug addicts? These problems in the native community are not all the fault of the white man.
joshster89 2 years ago
Apples and oranges....
We aren't talking of on generation of survivors. We are talking GENERATIONS of survivors, torn away from their homes and families and sent back with absolutely no skills to homes where their cultures were being systematically destroyed.
Damaged children grow up to be damaged adults and entire communities of damaged people cannot function. Firstly, if the first generation abuses alcohol and have children, many of those suffer from FAS.
Mudhooks 2 years ago
The communities could not cope with the number of damaged people. Some went into the cities where they faced racism and had little or no skills with which to earn a living. Generations had been taught to hate themselves and their culture.
Mudhooks 2 years ago
I would point out that many survivors of the Holocaust suffered from mental illness (as did the few that survived the Gulags.. Many of the children of the survivors suffer from problems caused by their parent's experiences.
Alcoholism is a problem all over Russia. It would be hard to separate the children of those who were the children of those sent off to the Gulags. Many of them were taken from their parents and put in "orphanages". I'm sure that few of them came out without problems.
Mudhooks 2 years ago
although ABUSE of Natives was much worse. Also their will never be peace between the white race and we natives.WE natives will never accept the white race. The crimes and rape of Native CHILDREN will never be forgotten!!!
NATIVEpridehope 2 years ago
The problems and the root causes of the alcoholism and drug abuse in Native communities is well-known and well documented. It has been clearly shown that the Residential School system and the abuses suffered by so many generations, in some cases as many as 5, of children was one major cause of these problems.
Mudhooks 2 years ago
@Mudhooks just one of many tools to destroy a people for the riches of the land they reside on
spiritwolf50 2 years ago
Correction, up until the 1980's. One point you made is true, many First Nations people today did not expereince the atrocities of resdiential school, however there's this thing called intergenerational trauma, look it up!!! When you grow up not learning the values of respect for self and others, being repeatedly told your are nothing surprisingly you begin to believe this lie. When you enter adulthood with this false sense of self you tend to portray this image in your daily life.
morrison0411 2 years ago
@morrison0411 ...that is EXACTLY the problem. its sad too. although many natives are now healing and we are getting stronger!....this type of intergenerational abuse is very severe and has roots in Post Tramatic Stress Disorder of our ENTIRE people,mostly because we natives are SURVIVORS of GENOCIDE.this problem affects entire native communities. the pressure of native life is extreme compared to privileged white people.
NATIVEpridehope 2 years ago
1. If you took the time to do a quick google search of Residential Schools in Canada you will quickly realize that they were open long past 1970. Infact, the closure of the last residential school wasn't until 1996.
2. The focus of the Holocaust was to physically kill the person. Where as, the goal of the residential school was to "kill the Indian in the child".......
missrae85 2 years ago
@missrae85 I think it said that in video towards the end of video
spiritwolf50 2 years ago
......wo totally different concepts. One leave nothing physically, the other leaves a physical being with nothing inside. Don't tell me that if when you were a child you were beatin for speaking english (i am assuming it is your first language) and raped repeatedly, you wouldn't become a emotional reck, thinking that what you experienced for so many years was normal, and unable to function in many social settings. Holocaust = dead people... Residential school= Dead Souls
missrae85 2 years ago
Because, natinve indian people are warm-hearted people and they and serious people =] and you can trust them =]!
florasweetgirl95 2 years ago
Thank you for making this educational video. Many people still don't know what happened in the HIStory of their amazing and 'polite' country.
chocolatepoundcake 2 years ago
no no sorry lol I MEANT NATIVE INDIANS lol didnt meant INDIAN FROM INDIA HAH
florasweetgirl95 2 years ago
I am not CANADIAN and i dont wish to be but i am Romanian...I am very angry at the canadians for doing this to you guys =[ I really and YES i agree THIS LAND BELONGS TO THE NATIVE INDIANS! You guys are amazing...I would give anything so i can have native indian blood in my veins but too bad =]!!
florasweetgirl95 2 years ago
by the way, we're not Indians. Indians are from India.
Don't be angry at the Canadians. I am Native Canadian. I am a Canadian.
My dad went to one of these schools. I find that it has really affected him. He has drinking problems and he and my mom separated.
xBeEmox 2 years ago
Florasweetgirl: Just curious...why would you "give anything" to be Native when this would likely mean incredible hardships, discrimination and poverty for you?
chocolatepoundcake 2 years ago
our people should watch how the peoples of the world do things we as natives have power so thing no relgion can give and its safe no its a company now not a religion this is still our land not the goverments its our s some day people of the world will see that you can not kill a spirit there is no weapon that kills a spirit its on going for ever its like trying to kill a ghost you can,t
SADDLEBACK77 2 years ago
whats the song called?
erlcly02 2 years ago
I'm afraid I can't remember. I thought I had credited it on the video but apparently not, though it may have been there in the original credits before I had to mangle it for YouTube to upload.
Mudhooks 2 years ago
CAn you please please pleaaaseee telme where you got these pictures from? did you google them and if so what did you type in....
2009dramaqueen 2 years ago
If you google (in the images) "residential schools" or "residential school" (with the quotation marks, you will find them.
Mudhooks 2 years ago
I would tell the governmnet to keep their crooked dirty money. Alll that happens to that money is it goes out to the people who gave it out in the first place. for what it gets spent on. government get their hands on anything payouts they get back. I get the feeling europeans have not been very nice people around the world. This has made me have nothing to do with religious celebrations like christmas and easter. It shocks me that people support religions that aided this kind of thing
14CPO 2 years ago
@14CPO I find it interesting that people think that whites or "europeans" are generally not good people. Lets look at some facts. Countries run by white people are MANY times more prosperous, healthy, and yes peaceful then most countries run by races of other colors.
Examples... Look at what happened in Haiti since it was taken over by a different race. Look at the countless lives slaughtered, raped, and victimized every day in Africa. Look at almost every Muslim nation. Need I go on...
kefri916 2 years ago
Firstly, no one here has suggested that Whites or "europeans" are not generally good people.
What you find so "interesting" is what happens after colonial powers fuck around with countries, play favourites with social groups within a nation without regard to the original cultural make-up of said nation, and then fuck off leaving the country after having drained it of what they want.... And then continue to meddle in the affairs (as in the case of Iraq) by colluding with factions within a nation
Mudhooks 2 years ago
Secondly, I fail to see how systematically dismantling a culture bu forcing indigenous peoples of a country to stop speaking their languages and to stop celebrating their religious rites and to force them off their own land; removing by force generations of children, allowing them to be fed substandard food, molested by those put in charge of them, beaten, and raped; and then told they should be "grateful" to the people who did it in any way makes whites or "europeans" look anything but bad.
Mudhooks 2 years ago
And, it should be pointed out that Ancient Zimbabwe was a far greater and cultured society at its heyday than any European nation was. Vietnam was, as well, before the French started fucking around with it.
And Haiti, if you bothered to read a history book was originally inhabited by an indigenous population which was systematically exterminated by whites who then removed slaves from Africa to toil themselves to death for them... and then fucked off when they no longer had anything to gain.
Mudhooks 2 years ago
India is about the only nation that could possible be seen to have "gained" by the Colonial intervention and even so, what wealth the Colonials amassed in the country was removed by the whites and not used to any advantage for the Indian people.
Mudhooks 2 years ago
@kefri916...thats because the WHITE race invaded native land then sells native resources keeping the money for the white race.of course the natives would be poor. if the major OIL companies gave back all the oil money from OUR NATIVE land we would be rich.sorry no race wants to be under european white SLAVERY...i mean "freedom"...lol...or "democracy"...your on native land...go back to europe and tell me the same thing
NATIVEpridehope 2 years ago
@14CPO 1 yes we all know white people fucked up the world; however, had any other race become as powerful over thousands of years of invasions and forced beleif (and this wasnt only against non whites, it was against other whites as well) would have ended up with a similar outcome. people are people and every so often power hungry inhuman bastards run the show; but the sources of these problems are dead now, so everyone else has to try to do what they can to improve.
supernerd1300 2 years ago
@14CPO also christianity isnt a soley european religion. and religious institutions cannot account for the religion itself. by your definition, no religious holidays should be celebrated by anyone because some of the churches behind these holidays have done horrible things. this is true for pretty much all religions. also name five christians alive today who know of the residential schools and support it. the poison comes from the people in power. as stated earlier before.
supernerd1300 2 years ago
@supernerd1300 actually it wasnt the "christians" who did this... it was the "catholics"... we arent the same.. im christian... thats a complete different religion
SandraDezmoines 2 years ago
It wasn't just the Catholics... There were Anglican, Baptist, Methodist, Presbyterian, Roman Catholic, United Church of Canada, and Moravian-run schools. Those are all Christian churches.
Mudhooks 2 years ago
@mudhooks...thats true..my family went to a native boarding school run by "christian" ...presbyterians.
NATIVEpridehope 2 years ago
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14CPO 2 years ago
my father inlaw keeps trying to get his residential money but whoever hes getting for help cant find a thing like he never did someone should put up a list of all the ppl on youtube or a yearbook or something to help prove they went to a residential school so they can show that they did
devilhand669 2 years ago
Unfortunately, there are people for whom there are no records. The vast majority there are records for. If your father-in-law has any information of his own that would show his residence, it would help. Report cards, letters, photos.... His student number... I don't know a lot about it but I know that the government kept a LOT of records. Bands also had records which some bands have been reluctant to forward on to the government. I don't know why. He might try checking with his band to see.
Mudhooks 2 years ago
I am from Alert Bay, BC and the Residential School still stands. There is a lot of debate whether to tear it down of let it stand. If we do that, then it's like it never happened. I have heard a lot of horror stories about how it was. Believe me, this was not discrimination in such small detail. Even after First Nations people weren't forced to attend residential schools anymore, there were Indian Day schools where treatment was less severe but none the less unacceptable.
MrRUFC12 2 years ago
I was a child when My late mom told me she went to school a short time in her life in chapleau, I never new nor she ever mentioned anything of such things of what I hear happening in those days...I'am so sad to find out today to see that one of the schools she attended is one of them...I can't stop crying for her...
creefirstnation 2 years ago
It's crazy how people can be discriminated for such a small detail. it's terrible.
19thepyrochilibean 2 years ago
Can you be more specific on your comment...Thanks for replying.
creefirstnation 2 years ago
ummmmmmmmm like in the schools, the kids were being discriminated. for being aboriginal. for speaking aboriginal languages.
19thepyrochilibean 2 years ago
the catholic priests took indians of the us,canada,texas,mexico,peru all over this continent!!! forcing them to speak a european tongue in the missions.
ADRIANR2D 2 years ago
The ironic part is that in reality these well-intentioned white folks had so much to learn from the Indians......
TaipeiDawg 2 years ago
"To Kill the Indian, inside of the child"
iamTetsuo117 2 years ago
when did this all end? my dad talks about dating native women and being good friends with there brothers and stuff when they were young... so like late 1970's early 80's. but weren't they in residential schools? my friend just tried to tell me that its because all that bad stuff that happened happened in like the late 1800's only. which i know is not true. so can someone explain how the schools worked in the 70's 80's ??? was it manditory?
kkkrae 2 years ago
Most schools closed in the 1970s but there were a few open into the 1980s. By the 1970s the schools were being run by the Bands. By the late 1960s it was no longer mandatory that the children go but often it was the only place for them to get an education without going into the major cities.
Mudhooks 2 years ago
In the late 1800's there were often day schools or boarding schools near communities but by the turn of the century, the government viewed assimilation through removing the children from their communities. That was when forcible removal began. Parents who did not want their children to leave were forced by the RCMP and the Indian Agents to relinquish their children/ They were removed at age 6, generally and did not return home until they were "of age", usually 15.
Mudhooks 2 years ago
By the late 1940s, some children were allowed to return home for holidays but only if the Indian Agent deemed the home "fit". By the 1950s, most children were home for Christmas and again for summer holidays. On some reserves where the Residential School was withing walking distance, some children did attend as Day Students even as far back as the 1940s.
Mudhooks 2 years ago
In the 1970s and 1980s, the schools, as I said were Band run, though at the beginning, their teachers and Child Care Workers were government employees. They were generally Native employees who were paid by the government. Student were not forced to go to the schools at this point but if there were problems at home, they often went to the schools. Many went home on weekends and all holidays.
Mudhooks 2 years ago
Those people eligible for compensation would have attended prior to the school closing as a "government run school" (ie, not band-run).
Mudhooks 2 years ago
Sorry. Perhaps I should clarify.
Those eligible had to have attended prior to the date when a particular school closed "officially" as a government-run school (or jointly run by the government and church). If a school was taken over by a Band and the band was solely responsible for the running of the school, it was not considered to be "government run".
Mudhooks 2 years ago
We will never be heard.When I die,I will rest in Peace.
blueshadow1996 2 years ago
BOARDING SCHOOLS ACCEPTED CHILDREN WHOSE PARENTS VOLUNTARILY LEFT TO PERSUE A BETTER EDUCATION. NATIVE AMERICANS WERE FORCED TO LEAVE HOME, we had no choice. all 4 of my grandparents went to residential school; they are still dealing with trauma. My grandfather expereicned electro-shock therapy, DO YOU THINK THAT IS VOLUNTARY IN BOARDING SCHOOL???
MoMix22 2 years ago
Where would we have been now?
Had our people not been assimilated, we wouldn't have the disease amongst our people (HIV/AIDS) we wouldn't racism against our young women who disappear almost daily from the west and we wouldn't have to live on fucking reserves where there is NO LAND, NO JOBS, NOTHING. We would have been the true people of the land, but ignorant fucks like you who know nothing about shit decide that we need to be assimilated beacause of our beautiful tribal dances. Screw that.,
MoMix22 2 years ago
..and if they'd been 'left behind' and not school, kept on the margins where they were happy...where would they have been onw, and what accusations would be levelled at the authorities?
mmmbeachlover 2 years ago
So, again, taking them away from the love and comfort of their families is "okay" as far as you are concerned because "at least they got an education".
Mudhooks 2 years ago
In fact, most communities had schools where they could have attended or ones could have been provided. Instead, they were taken hundreds of miles away for no reason other than to ensure that they would be indoctrinated into White society which didn't work anyway because they got little or no education and and the bonds of family and community were irrevocably lost.
Mudhooks 2 years ago
And, as previously noted, for the most part, until the 1960s, the schools did little in the way of educating, using the children, instead for farm or industrial labour at the school. Most were returned home at the end of their schooling with a grade 4 level education and no ability to actually get a job in the "real world" because of racism.
Mudhooks 2 years ago
With the natives they were forced this was wrong for sure & I will never forget that
lloydswa 2 years ago
Faith alone sola scriptura...I never had anything to do with those church groups the natives take issue with
lloydswa 2 years ago
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lloydswa 2 years ago
Religion is Man made for ENSLAVEMENT. Period.
bigcree 2 years ago
How much more info do people need before they are shown the perverted& evil history of the christians!?? Love was never a word in their vocabulary, but they sure do understand power & money their true god. Indians were considered "useless" eaters and corporate amerikka needs taxpayers!!! most important which is why you cannot live off the land. YOU MUST PAY TAXES to someone, so take the children & indoctrinate to be as dumb & indoctrinated as the white who also gladly pays his taxes!
syanen 2 years ago
you should know that day schools ran untill 1993 get your history staight !!!
crazyness89 2 years ago
well the last school closed in 1998
jaymoney41 2 years ago
"1996 - The last federally run residential school, the Gordon Residential School, closes in Saskatchewan." The AFN website... I did mention this date in the video.
And you refer to day schools and this video is about residential schools. I would suggest that if you want to have a video about day schools you make one yourself. It isn't that hard to do. That way you can stop getting all bent out of shape about my video.
Mudhooks 2 years ago
did you forget the day school children? answer me that and then post a video?!!! wheres there money greedy bastards!
crazyness89 2 years ago
I didn't "forget" the Day School children. As the Day Schools are not part of the settlement and as the day students, while they also had a hard time, they were not removed from their parents. They could at least go home every day. I am not saying they didn't suffer abuse but slamming me because I made a video about the Residential Schools and didn't mention day students is hardly fair.
Mudhooks 2 years ago
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bargnani4three 2 years ago
i feel so guilty as a white man for what my ancestors did to the first nations....i know it's the seed of all the challenges the first nations face today. We need to give something back: compassion, understanding, and most of all a solid social infrastructure to help a people we tried to destroy.
superawkward 2 years ago
This is the painful, ugly truth of a stolen generation. Excellent Viewing! Many thanks!
cremebruleec 2 years ago
Im white, and am appaled at what was done in the name of 'religion' Im a 7th generation descendant on maternal side, Oka Mohawk, I do not know native spirituality, but its got to be way more true than the catholic way.
t78a 2 years ago
I just cant believe my indian brothers and sisters who still live by the cross, I mean really i just dont know! Our people were fine until the whiteman came over with his "devils, hells and bibles"
stv420 2 years ago
dont do anything the good lord wouldnt do sunny
7266955481234 2 years ago
I dont need the loed to have personal morals, just unconditional love and true sense of being.
stv420 2 years ago
Some attempt to negate their responsibility of the past wrongs and reconcile these acts of inhumanity with "it was done with good intent". Those who choose to subscribe to this inconsiderate notion forget one of their truest sayings, that "the road to hell was built on good intention"! I wasn't aware our Canadian brothers and sisters were subject to the same paternalistic and racist legislation. Thanks for the info! Cheers
OzNativeBorn 2 years ago
and so young girls were seen as "age appropriate" to perform, sad yes, but not ALWAYS CRIMINAL ABUSE, sometimes its just how they thought things should be. Nowadays our laws are much more appropriate because we cannot have so many children workign as it will interfere with the qualit if eduction, and offset canada revenue, so now you CANNOT work by law under age 14. So just remember not everything you see here was actually unfair. But there are some things that are aboviously ridiculously cruel
azgoodazitgetz 2 years ago
....now adays its mcdonalds and age restrictions apply, ....there was no law back then, dont forget how many woman and men we lost to the war, either who were overseas actually fighting or had aready fallen, ...there is still work to be done, a world to develope, unfortunately it was hard times, but labour for children back then was not such a crime....sexual abuse is a crime no matter what, but also because of population reasons they did become mothers very young, .....
azgoodazitgetz 2 years ago
And as for the working they had to do....also children all around the world have earned their keep doing labour, most boys have worked their entire lives, that generation is dying out now, and remaining on welfare is becoming the new norm.
Our world will fall apart if work is not instilled as an important part of life. It should not be like slavery, but teaching kids the skills of the time, like back then it was farming and cooking and cleaning....,
azgoodazitgetz 2 years ago
......continued......This was originally to administer education to chikdren whose villagesotherwise could not afford to provide. and also to give them a common lanuage so that they may be comfortable in the world, and educated the same as other white canadian children too. Sexual abuse in itself is a personal choice of the person performing such horrid things to children. But it was done in alot of residential school not just Indian schools. Most Catholic school had the strap .....remember?
azgoodazitgetz 2 years ago
Oh dear, this is a shame that this kind of stuff happened to children at all. But to inform all Native Americans watching, this happened to american, canadian, asian, european, etc countries ALL OVER THE WORLD during that time period. At age 12 girls were often married, and subjected to child bearing as soon as their bodies could do so. This was not an act of racism. This was the norm, and its an individual choice of nuns and priests to abuse children it was not a common thing in all schools.
azgoodazitgetz 2 years ago
Children "all over the world" were not systematically removed from the love and care of their families and communities and forced to work at age 6 instead of getting an education that white children across Canada were getting. White children could go home (unless they were in boarding schools, in which case, unlike Native children, they were allowed to go home on holidays). Unlike the native children, white parents had the choice of sending their children to boarding schools.
Mudhooks 2 years ago
At age 12, in the late 1800s, children in Canada did not marry and bear children. That was against the law.
I don't need to "inform Native people" about the realities of Canadian life, especially as much if what you have said pertaining to "average Canadian children" is nonsense. Should we simply allow children to be abused because "that happens all over the world"?
Mudhooks 2 years ago
In evaluating the claims, the realities of the harshness of the Canadian culture in general was taken into consideration, as well as the "usual" level of corporal in schools and in homes. The level of abuse in Indian Residential schools was beyond that which you would have found in any Canadian school. The Residential schools were Dickensian in their methods of dealing with children.
Mudhooks 2 years ago
Children in some schools were beaten, malnourished, force-fed food which was not fit for consumption, denied ant sort of human comfort and love. In some schools, siblings were denied the right to talk and touch each other for the entirety of their school "career" (I know because my father in law spent 8 years in Mohawk Institute where he was allowed to talk to his sister for 15 minutes at Christmas. They were not allowed to hug or touch.)
Mudhooks 2 years ago
"This was originally to administer education to chikdren whose villagesotherwise .... etc.."
-- Children originally were educated on reserve. The government policy (which you can easily research) was designed to remove children from the influence of their communities, churn them back out onto the reserves where the education they received (if they got more than a grade 4 education and had no possible chance of using that education as very few would ever find a job in the "white world".
Mudhooks 2 years ago
"Sexual abuse in itself is a personal choice of the person performing such horrid things to children. But it was done in alot of residential school...."
You would dismiss the sexual abuse of children because this "happened in a lot of residential schools"? The fact is that when sexual abuse was reported, nothing was done. The government dismissed such allegations and did nothing. Abusers didn't just abuse a single child. they abused hundreds. Hundreds... over many years, sometimes.
Mudhooks 2 years ago
Abuse may have been a "personal choice" but it was administered and defended by the church and government authorities to children who had no choice about being subjected to it and with no recourse, and without being able to turn to a single person to protect them, for years on end.
Mudhooks 2 years ago
To suggest that this should simply be dismissed based on the completely false excuse that this was some sort of cultural norm in nonsensical. It may be your "personal opinion" but it is offensive to suggest that Native people do not have the right to redress is idiotic.
Mudhooks 2 years ago
Correction... Children in MOST schools.
In fact, in the case of Mohawk Institute, the principal made a personal profit from selling produce from the school farm while the children who broke their backs producing it received substandard and spoiled food. Even when he was ordered to give the children pasturised milk (which was the law) he ignored those directives for several years. Children who harvested eggs and raised chicken received a single egg at Easter and chicken at Christmas.
Mudhooks 2 years ago
yes the video runs fast, and the pause button is disabled, i had to keep pressing reverse to read and see, you can tell some still want to keep this a quiet. . awful
evansawatis 2 years ago
No one is trying to "keep this quiet". As I explained in the lengthy blurb to the right of your screen, I uploaded this to LiveVideo and it runs fine. I uploaded it here and for some reason, it runs very fast, though the music is fine. The pause button works just fine on my computer.
Mudhooks 2 years ago
I am sorry to realize that these things took place.
gidroscop 2 years ago
my blood boils at the thought that money can somehow mitigate this kind of severe depravation.
The survivors AND their families...for a MINIMUM of SEVEN generations ought to be compensated!!!!!! SEVEN GENERATIONS!!!!!
L4P 2 years ago
this is just like been is foster homes,,abuse is there too..all kinds rape ur kids child and family put u there and who is responsable for that ,,,take u away from ur home put u somewhere is even worst who will pay that damage .....
shy3342 2 years ago
both my parents and their parents were victims of these horrible schools... i hope the nuns and priests are burning in hell for doing this to my ancestors because they kill out language and for some people our culture
harrypotterssdsd 2 years ago
My In-Laws and my Parents were victims in the residential schools. By being there they took our speach and Heritage away from us. Why were we punished for speaking our Tounge, but yet we were forced to speak theirs?!?? I don't understand that one? I myself feel that the money will never bring us to our roots. Plus, was the money a payout for the rest of their work, that we did for them.... mmm I wonder?... I pray for the people who treated my ancestors with such disrespect.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
romanbling 2 years ago
Money will end. It will end by design or it will end because we say it. The root of all of societies problems is in fact money. The idea of profit is what causes polution. The idea of profit is what holds back futuristic technologies that are currently available. The idea of money is what keeps people on reservations throughout canada. People working for money is just an advanced form of slavery.
SuperHappyCakesHehe 2 years ago
Please read my comments in backwards order...thanks
RachelEMacD 3 years ago
But, Lion, we Christians need to come to grips with the fact that our ancestors in the faith did this to aboriginal kids in our country.
It's not your fault and my fault that it happened, back then. However it is up to us to see that our churches change to respect aboriginal people, and work to change the attitude, society and practices that led to those abuses. It's a hard thing to do, with the legacy of that time still fresh in people's lives and hearts. But we have to try, right?
RachelEMacD 3 years ago
Some people used it to abuse the kids: and partly because the society painted aboriginals as lesser and not worthy to be treated the same as white kids. Mosheer, that is horrible that they found bones of little kids under the school.
Some of the schools were good and kids liked them. Other schools were not good and kids got abused in every way you can think of, or it sounds like, some places kids were killed too.
RachelEMacD 3 years ago
It was very wrong. It was not good for kids of any culture to be taken from their families to school. But it was worse for aboriginal kids to be taken and forced to be some other culture. For sure, it was done with "the best of intentions" but the result was disastrous, and some people did not go into that work with good intentions.
RachelEMacD 3 years ago
yes and they all did this in the name of...the one who taught some of the greatest lessons of love and said "Forgive them Lord they know not what they do" What Irony
Kymimom 3 years ago
FAWK!
i hate this school so much!
they abused my family!!!!!!!!
beccacahoose 3 years ago
many, if not all, white ppl who are wealthy and rich today got their fortunes from slavery, stealing Native land, and killing Mexicans; and hands down these spoils of conquest and war to their sons...
cactusoftruth 3 years ago
So, now we all see who the true BARBARIANS were.!
LadyJustice666 3 years ago
LadyJustice66 Mormons Believe the Lamanites are USA INDIANS look how there BOOK OF MORMON GOD treats the USA INDIANS-->
Book of Mormon ALMA 3:6"And the SKINS of the Lamanites (USA INDIANS) were DARK, according to the MARK which was set upon their fathers, WHICH was a CURSE upon them BECAUSE OF their TRANSGRESSION and their REBELLION..
Book of Mormon ALMA 3:9 "And it came to pass that whosoever did mingle his seed with that of the Lamanites (USA INDIANS) did bring the SAME CURSE upon his seed..
Ilegalplayer 3 years ago
Good to see the true his+story being told at last.
LadyJustice666 3 years ago
Lets talk about the british and french priests who DID hand out smallpox blankets and used smallpox cultures in the "Holy Water" doing sick death baptisms against the parents wishes at the first schools.ITS DOCUMENTED FACT: MURDER TO"SAVE"THEIR SOULS.Sick and insane zombie worshipping christians need to face up.
The Bording School Priests were there to rape, A LOT!
Why do you think there is so much alcoholism and pain?!
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HHDV 3 years ago
Awesome! Where from?
WindyMelly 3 years ago
What happened to the people you speak of is terrible and wrong.Although we should remember not to blame people born today that accept a christian belief,some people who accept christianity are good people.Yes we should not forget and help thoughs who have been wronged, but we should not become biased because of individuals of the past,nor should we as humans segregate,for many people have been raped,murdered,forced in religion,and slavery.We need to reach out to everyone,and not be selective.
LI0N0FTHEBRAVE 3 years ago
some people in my family where sent to rez schools and after they took the church down they found bodies of lil children skulls and bones
mosheer1234 3 years ago
insane zombie worshipping christians
i like that- its true , jesus rose from the dead , like a zombie
and no one questions that, or thinks its weird......
im a white guy- my apologies for all that crap , for what its worth
doodeloo 2 years ago
Regardless of the corruption of government of today and from yesterday,we should NOT treat the people born here today like they are the enemy, no one chooses there skin colour and the spirit knows no bounds. War over colour is not the solution, we are all brothers and sisters in one way or another.
LI0N0FTHEBRAVE 3 years ago
Agreed
WindyMelly 3 years ago
My grandmother went to the The Residential school in Spanish, ON, and she will not tell me a thing about it. I am the third generation and I am greatly affected my this because my mom had me at a young age and i lived with my grandmother because my mom wasnt old enough to get a house on the crown land yet, and she didnt want to live on the 'white' land. I lived with my grandma for 5 yrs and I sat there and watched her drink and cry. But she is trying to heal, with the help of family and friends!
beara2008 3 years ago
The best way for the Whites to say "Sorry" is to leave this continent and RETURN TO EUROPE.
TheMexicaMovement 3 years ago
nice vid, just started some aborginal studies in university, so im looking to get familiarized...
Ambushofblacks 3 years ago
I don't care how much money they give, it will not excuse what they allowed to go on!!!!
myishael 3 years ago
Funny, the way Canadians go on, you would think that they were the chosen people devoid of wrong doings.
Please.
schizrade 3 years ago
I know beleive that we are saying we should be "devoid of wrong doings". We are saying that no culture should have to suffer like the way our people did and still do to this day! We were robbed of our culture, families and pride. How would you feel if some one took your child away and you never see them again? Please do not judge us until you have walked in our mocasins.
Peace out!
aspire161 3 years ago
true also white ppl are so overrated now and since ive been livin in edmonton kids said nasty things and cops wont do anything soon the whole world of people will be fighting for themeselves you wont know anyone
mosheer1234 3 years ago