thats part of this particular style, jin jung kwan is commonly known as combat hapkido, which comes from ta song do. tkd is for pussies. the jin jung kwan video is my sabumen he trains delta and air force pj's. he ommonly has greeen berets in his gym very real stuff
Even though a part of me feels like the pain is unnecessary, it shows that this works and the reaction isn't scripted like other clips that show students rolling and flipping, when you can see there isn't enough force to cause such reactions...
@giantposer how's it fake if you actually train it? its just mostly locks and holds and occasionally implementing equipment like knives, swords and canes... how is that not possible?
@bossyaaron Some Hapkido techniques are interesting, say, the use of the cane. That said, manouvering someone into the position to actually use the techniques is much more easily said than done. As has been said endless times: "let's see it work in a full contact match against an uncooperative opponenent." You'll never, ever find such video evidence. The techniques are well thought out, but don't work in practical situations.
@giantposer do you know why they cooperate? appareantly not...
if you do not cooperate the first part of a throw already breaks something... so then the rest is not needed if they do cooperate you can still finish it... i would like seeing you fight a hapkido practitioner
@giantposer Haha i lol'd i see what you mean though but HapKiDo students learn almost all of the taekwondo techniques too (they are both from south korea btw)
and the defensive techniques are not only based on unpractical situations like grabbing someones shoulders but also punch, kick, knife , stick defenses.. but the aikido master is not always the winner because these guys train to be extremely fast ......Maybe do some research before critizizing a sport?
@LiquidBoing Im a third dan in ITF TKD. My master was a Ninth dan in ITF, an 8th dan in WTF and a Hapkido Grandmaster. I know what I'm talking about. I'm glad you lol'd though. Hapkido works against an untrained assailant or a drunk at the bar. It doesn't work toe-to-toe with a trained fighter. The problem with many "too deadly to train" techniques, such as bone brakes is, they are praticed at half speed, and can never be fully applied in practice, creating a false sense of accomplishment/power.
@giantposer hehe im not saying hapkido is the ultimate fighting sport or anything like that and once more i see what you are getting at but i think that some of the techniques are quite effective on good kicks and punches also you don't have to stick to the actual technique ... for example : if you have someone in the lock where you are bending the elbow and wrist etc you can break any of those really easily (i think) and btw 3 dan in TKD wow im yellow belt now sadly, in WTF (i would love ITF)
@LiquidBoing You make good points. As an aside, investigate the history of Judo when you have time. The chief purpose of Judo was to create a grappling art where all techniques can be applied at full speed. That said, WTF TKD isn't bad at all, but you need to cross train (as you know). Hapkido's not a bad choice (the Korean connection is nice) but as you advance, don't get stuck in the Hapkido trap which is: "More of the same for a LONG TIME before you learn new techniques". Waste of time. Judo.
@giantposer hehe WTF taekwondo isnt bad at all i like it :D but i think i would like ITF more (had trouble with the character limit to explain it so i had to be a bit blunt) also i have been researching Judo and am looking for a good school to learn it, i dont quite have the time though but i am slowly working towards the same thing my TKD master had done and that is : combine all three (he's 5th dan TKD, 3th dan Judo and 2th dan HKD) i think that would be sweet :D (i must not overtrain though)
people that say that this is fake should be used as a training partner...=D wanna be mine? Then maybe you begin to understand its not fake. Ignorant, is the word that describes you.
TFFERIK, if you think that is real then you are supremely ignorant. Anyone can look good when their opponent... A) throws a non-realistic, slow punch. B) Jumps as soon as the person touches them.
The locks are real, granted, but the way he gets to them is a joke
@toanthony dude....would u stand there a let me break your wrist OR would u follow my movements to reduce the pain? =) think about that. The movements are exagerated for a reason....they HURT. FYI this is just a demonstration...nno one is going to punch that slow. and Martial arts does not make u invincible. It is a TOOL that you gain. therefore my dear friend. continue to call me ignorant. If you dont believe....what can i do? nothing it is your life and your though pattern. I can't change you.
You're not getting me. I agreed the locks work. Im saying this guy would never be able to perform these locks were they coming from a real punch. I've done hapkido for 6yrs. My instructor ALWAYS says (rightly so), you must block and counter (to temporarily disorientate) then you have a chance at locking someone up. But many so-called masters demo the instant throw or lock from a punch - (totally unrealistic) to make them appear more amazing. But it only serves to ridicule hapkido
@toanthony You have a point there, but this seems to be a demonstration. It doesn't ridicule it in my opinion however. Demonstration's are supposed to do a bit "showing off". I too practice Hapkido and yes I have been told to block and counter, then lock. When you actually start practicing the art it all lightens up and you can tell what is "realistic".
This is Very real, This man has been working on this art for many, many years..the pain is very real, it is Shocking pain...you can't even think ! All of the arts are real, I strongly advise everyone to try one, they are all good, It developes your iner power. he is not just trying to hurt him, you have to do this to really learn how it works, everybody does it, you recover fast, if you train well ! You sould try it !!
Yawn, same old thing. Moves that belong in the movies because you will NEVER see them done on a real opponent or attacker... The only time you will see these moves done is on an "assistant".
Silly Demo, but Hapkido is not to be taken lightly (and no I'm not a Hapkido student) While there may be bad teachers, the art in itself is very effective.
Plus if he's really hurting his demo partners that much then he has no plus doing demonstrations; if it's an act to make him look good I understand, demos must be impressive.
That he actually inflicts that much pain on someone for a demonstration. The more time he spends making his demo person "tap out" the less I respect him.
por cierto! esta gente es mas cuentista que todos vosotros juntos! ya que esas tecnicas hacen daño pero se dejan llevar, y realmente no duelen tanto como para gritar de esa manera, yo si que les haria gritar, menudos cuentistas
la mayoria que opinais no teneis ni puta idea! hay que adaptarse a todo! todas las artes marciales tienen sus cosas buenas y sus cosas no tan buenas, el que diga que el aikido no es efectivo, quiere decir que el no es apto para dedicarse a las Artes Marciales ya que el cuerpo tiene 4 articulaciones por asi decirlo y por ejemplo el Hapkido tiene un 80% de tecnicas parecidas pero.. desde el punto de vista de un aikidoka, mal hechas.. asi que dejad de decir tonterias y aprendedlo todo!!
lol, don't fight about which art is the best guys....whether standing up or on the ground....every art has its own strengths and weaknesses, never get caught up in this debate....what are you going to do if someone snipes you with a rifle?! haha, remember there's always a bigger fish in this mighty ocean....
try it they really can fuck u up if they get you in one of this techniques of course if you get caught is because you were really open or just don´t know how to move.
I'd come to your school and I assure you that wouldn't happen to me.
Brazilian Jui-jitsu practitioners dont just allow people to do these moves on them. I'd take you to the ground and armbar you.
Every day we train with fully resisting opponents so we know that our art would (and does) work in real life situations.. you guys are just going through moves with willing partners who just stand there. All show and no substance.
MMM you know everything cause you know to fight in the ground your standing game shouldnt be that good and you shouldn´t understimate people just because the art they train you should be aware that this techniques aren´t for real situations no matter how much the master takls about it same to katas every fight is a changing situation.
And in your school they don´t focus in more than in ground game their standing game is very bad and you think in our art we don´t train against people who supports we spar every day sometimes we do 1 vs 2 or 3 and its not choreographed.
we also train footwork for means of evade blows you think every school of Hapkido are the same and in a street fight all you need is to know is how to move and to give a hard strike in a weak point it should take the other(s) guy(s) down.
It is extremely painful while the technique is being done. It is concentrated on different pressure and trigger points of the body. It hurts like hell until it is let go- then it's just bruised, swollen and tender ^-^
Read my above reply to VRJaguarandi- "It is extremely painful while the technique is being done. It is concentrated on different pressure and trigger points of the body. It hurts like hell until it is let go- then it's just bruised, swollen and tender ^-^"
thats part of this particular style, jin jung kwan is commonly known as combat hapkido, which comes from ta song do. tkd is for pussies. the jin jung kwan video is my sabumen he trains delta and air force pj's. he ommonly has greeen berets in his gym very real stuff
littleking3535 1 month ago
Even though a part of me feels like the pain is unnecessary, it shows that this works and the reaction isn't scripted like other clips that show students rolling and flipping, when you can see there isn't enough force to cause such reactions...
SemiKalosi 2 months ago
I'm not a master but is it ok to provoke all that pain?
cybergus18 2 months ago
lots of pain going on here i wonder if the uke can survive another day at the dojo
uvaltito 9 months ago
2:33 - 2:39's by far the coolest kick. Pownage. Pure pownage.
KensieGranz 10 months ago
Respect !!!!
ouf67 1 year ago
@giantposer how's it fake if you actually train it? its just mostly locks and holds and occasionally implementing equipment like knives, swords and canes... how is that not possible?
bossyaaron 1 year ago
@bossyaaron Some Hapkido techniques are interesting, say, the use of the cane. That said, manouvering someone into the position to actually use the techniques is much more easily said than done. As has been said endless times: "let's see it work in a full contact match against an uncooperative opponenent." You'll never, ever find such video evidence. The techniques are well thought out, but don't work in practical situations.
giantposer 1 year ago
@giantposer do you know why they cooperate? appareantly not...
if you do not cooperate the first part of a throw already breaks something... so then the rest is not needed if they do cooperate you can still finish it... i would like seeing you fight a hapkido practitioner
LiquidBoing 1 year ago
@LiquidBoing well, let me ask you: can you imagine a Hapkido master vs. an Aikido master? How would it go?
Hapkido Master: "Soon, he'll grab my wrist!"
Aikido master: "Soon, he'll grab my wrist!"
*they both circle in silence, looking menacing and full of Ki ENERGY!*
HM: "Yes...Any minute now, he'll grab my wrist..."
AM: "And when he does...he will see the power of..."
Both: "Hap/ai/ki/do!"
The battle of warriors continues circling, ever waiting to apply a deadly, bone breaking technique!
giantposer 1 year ago
@giantposer Haha i lol'd i see what you mean though but HapKiDo students learn almost all of the taekwondo techniques too (they are both from south korea btw)
and the defensive techniques are not only based on unpractical situations like grabbing someones shoulders but also punch, kick, knife , stick defenses.. but the aikido master is not always the winner because these guys train to be extremely fast ......Maybe do some research before critizizing a sport?
LiquidBoing 1 year ago
@LiquidBoing Im a third dan in ITF TKD. My master was a Ninth dan in ITF, an 8th dan in WTF and a Hapkido Grandmaster. I know what I'm talking about. I'm glad you lol'd though. Hapkido works against an untrained assailant or a drunk at the bar. It doesn't work toe-to-toe with a trained fighter. The problem with many "too deadly to train" techniques, such as bone brakes is, they are praticed at half speed, and can never be fully applied in practice, creating a false sense of accomplishment/power.
giantposer 1 year ago
@giantposer hehe im not saying hapkido is the ultimate fighting sport or anything like that and once more i see what you are getting at but i think that some of the techniques are quite effective on good kicks and punches also you don't have to stick to the actual technique ... for example : if you have someone in the lock where you are bending the elbow and wrist etc you can break any of those really easily (i think) and btw 3 dan in TKD wow im yellow belt now sadly, in WTF (i would love ITF)
LiquidBoing 1 year ago
@LiquidBoing You make good points. As an aside, investigate the history of Judo when you have time. The chief purpose of Judo was to create a grappling art where all techniques can be applied at full speed. That said, WTF TKD isn't bad at all, but you need to cross train (as you know). Hapkido's not a bad choice (the Korean connection is nice) but as you advance, don't get stuck in the Hapkido trap which is: "More of the same for a LONG TIME before you learn new techniques". Waste of time. Judo.
giantposer 1 year ago
@giantposer hehe WTF taekwondo isnt bad at all i like it :D but i think i would like ITF more (had trouble with the character limit to explain it so i had to be a bit blunt) also i have been researching Judo and am looking for a good school to learn it, i dont quite have the time though but i am slowly working towards the same thing my TKD master had done and that is : combine all three (he's 5th dan TKD, 3th dan Judo and 2th dan HKD) i think that would be sweet :D (i must not overtrain though)
LiquidBoing 1 year ago
Dude, he's tapping out, let go! LOL!
steelemoon 1 year ago
people that say that this is fake should be used as a training partner...=D wanna be mine? Then maybe you begin to understand its not fake. Ignorant, is the word that describes you.
TFFErik 1 year ago
@TFFErik
TFFERIK, if you think that is real then you are supremely ignorant. Anyone can look good when their opponent... A) throws a non-realistic, slow punch. B) Jumps as soon as the person touches them.
The locks are real, granted, but the way he gets to them is a joke
toanthony 1 year ago
@toanthony dude....would u stand there a let me break your wrist OR would u follow my movements to reduce the pain? =) think about that. The movements are exagerated for a reason....they HURT. FYI this is just a demonstration...nno one is going to punch that slow. and Martial arts does not make u invincible. It is a TOOL that you gain. therefore my dear friend. continue to call me ignorant. If you dont believe....what can i do? nothing it is your life and your though pattern. I can't change you.
TFFErik 1 year ago
@TFFErik
You're not getting me. I agreed the locks work. Im saying this guy would never be able to perform these locks were they coming from a real punch. I've done hapkido for 6yrs. My instructor ALWAYS says (rightly so), you must block and counter (to temporarily disorientate) then you have a chance at locking someone up. But many so-called masters demo the instant throw or lock from a punch - (totally unrealistic) to make them appear more amazing. But it only serves to ridicule hapkido
toanthony 1 year ago
@toanthony You have a point there, but this seems to be a demonstration. It doesn't ridicule it in my opinion however. Demonstration's are supposed to do a bit "showing off". I too practice Hapkido and yes I have been told to block and counter, then lock. When you actually start practicing the art it all lightens up and you can tell what is "realistic".
tanegyver 1 year ago
@TFFErik What if my teacher was a Hapkido master and I was his training partner and I still say it's fake? What then??? :)
giantposer 1 year ago
@giantposer Just as useless as you i suppose :)
TFFErik 1 year ago
@TFFErik troll fail.
Clearly, Hapkido defenses are as lame in the arena as they are on the webz...Keep training!
giantposer 1 year ago
@giantposer what ever makes you sleep at night. :)
TFFErik 1 year ago
I agree, the partner is very slow, so Master Lee must slow down his attack in the middle of it several times.
teverde 2 years ago
Hapkido is one of the most painful as hell martial arts that's practiced in the world.
anigirl00 2 years ago
This is Very real, This man has been working on this art for many, many years..the pain is very real, it is Shocking pain...you can't even think ! All of the arts are real, I strongly advise everyone to try one, they are all good, It developes your iner power. he is not just trying to hurt him, you have to do this to really learn how it works, everybody does it, you recover fast, if you train well ! You sould try it !!
UTubeStarrr 2 years ago
Yawn, same old thing. Moves that belong in the movies because you will NEVER see them done on a real opponent or attacker... The only time you will see these moves done is on an "assistant".
jabxhook 2 years ago
Silly Demo, but Hapkido is not to be taken lightly (and no I'm not a Hapkido student) While there may be bad teachers, the art in itself is very effective.
WildWhiteDignity 2 years ago
I know people that has trained with Master Lee chang Soo, and they say is a good teacher
teverde 2 years ago
Plus if he's really hurting his demo partners that much then he has no plus doing demonstrations; if it's an act to make him look good I understand, demos must be impressive.
WildWhiteDignity 2 years ago
terrible attacks, not honest
WildWhiteDignity 2 years ago
How sad...
That he actually inflicts that much pain on someone for a demonstration. The more time he spends making his demo person "tap out" the less I respect him.
TheNewIdiotBox 2 years ago
more sillyness.
mmmbeachlover 2 years ago
por cierto! esta gente es mas cuentista que todos vosotros juntos! ya que esas tecnicas hacen daño pero se dejan llevar, y realmente no duelen tanto como para gritar de esa manera, yo si que les haria gritar, menudos cuentistas
Boby224 2 years ago
la mayoria que opinais no teneis ni puta idea! hay que adaptarse a todo! todas las artes marciales tienen sus cosas buenas y sus cosas no tan buenas, el que diga que el aikido no es efectivo, quiere decir que el no es apto para dedicarse a las Artes Marciales ya que el cuerpo tiene 4 articulaciones por asi decirlo y por ejemplo el Hapkido tiene un 80% de tecnicas parecidas pero.. desde el punto de vista de un aikidoka, mal hechas.. asi que dejad de decir tonterias y aprendedlo todo!!
Boby224 2 years ago
lol, don't fight about which art is the best guys....whether standing up or on the ground....every art has its own strengths and weaknesses, never get caught up in this debate....what are you going to do if someone snipes you with a rifle?! haha, remember there's always a bigger fish in this mighty ocean....
guynz007 2 years ago
i have a question why is he so brutal to his opponents? he´s juts demonstrating sth. he doenst need to break theri arms or legs.
LgOmEs1993 2 years ago
I feel bad for the assistance
jaeshim1 3 years ago
try it they really can fuck u up if they get you in one of this techniques of course if you get caught is because you were really open or just don´t know how to move.
VRJaguarandi 3 years ago
DAMM bad ass
subfuntres 3 years ago
or come to my you will see whats really efective don´t look like it.
VRJaguarandi 4 years ago
I'd come to your school and I assure you that wouldn't happen to me.
Brazilian Jui-jitsu practitioners dont just allow people to do these moves on them. I'd take you to the ground and armbar you.
Every day we train with fully resisting opponents so we know that our art would (and does) work in real life situations.. you guys are just going through moves with willing partners who just stand there. All show and no substance.
jasonleerock1 3 years ago
MMM you know everything cause you know to fight in the ground your standing game shouldnt be that good and you shouldn´t understimate people just because the art they train you should be aware that this techniques aren´t for real situations no matter how much the master takls about it same to katas every fight is a changing situation.
VRJaguarandi 3 years ago
And in your school they don´t focus in more than in ground game their standing game is very bad and you think in our art we don´t train against people who supports we spar every day sometimes we do 1 vs 2 or 3 and its not choreographed.
we also train footwork for means of evade blows you think every school of Hapkido are the same and in a street fight all you need is to know is how to move and to give a hard strike in a weak point it should take the other(s) guy(s) down.
VRJaguarandi 3 years ago
I'll admit, I mostly train ground submissions. But about 1/3 of my training is stand up.. whether it be throws, or takedowns.
All of which bring you to an element where you most likely have little to no training.
jasonleerock1 3 years ago
i m sick n tired of seein bbj ppl commenting on other styles
they think that they are the shit ..you can see them n all other styles videos dissin da styles n praizin their own style
if u think ur style is the best thn stick with it n keep ur info to ur self we dnt need to hear it
saed7171 2 years ago 2
Come to my school and have it done ^-^ You'll know it's not fake =P
missalissao 4 years ago
i know some guys because i was there, and that guys really had pain..
A4N4C4I4N4T 4 years ago
sugoiiii
EmoFob 4 years ago
very impresive this technique looks painful
VRJaguarandi 4 years ago
i can tell you, i was there and that guy realy had pain
Lukie005 4 years ago
It is extremely painful while the technique is being done. It is concentrated on different pressure and trigger points of the body. It hurts like hell until it is let go- then it's just bruised, swollen and tender ^-^
missalissao 4 years ago
yeah i remember when my Master use advanced techniques hurts like hell.
VRJaguarandi 4 years ago
I liked it but there is no point in leaving a technique on for so long and so hard in a demo, it just damages your partners as shown.
subfuntres 4 years ago
I agree 100%. This guy is just eliminating his training partners.
sgtjonesiniraq 4 years ago
Read my above reply to VRJaguarandi- "It is extremely painful while the technique is being done. It is concentrated on different pressure and trigger points of the body. It hurts like hell until it is let go- then it's just bruised, swollen and tender ^-^"
missalissao 4 years ago
mooi want ik was er zelf bij ma ik wil wel geen ruzie met choi kill bong en lee shang soo
michaeltjuhboy 4 years ago
mooi want ik was er zelf bij ma ik wil wel geen ruzie met choi kill bong en lee shang soo
michaeltjuhboy 4 years ago
awesome!
cooniemoonie 4 years ago