Seems like we're turning into post-human beings, every natural thing is replaced by some technological mimic. And our psychology is becoming like this too. People are already too dumbed down and naive to question this cultural tendency. No other species are so self-destructive and at war against reality like humans are. If we could, we would probably change our blood with embalming fluid, cause we're basically worshiping death.
"People who barely leave the house and are isolated by technology" I agree with your video but that caught me out as I'm one of these people, I've lived as a "hermit" for over three years now since I was 16, and I've had no major problems sustaining this lifestyle. During these three years I've ever only been outside, 4-5 times? This would have been impossible in any other time-frame in history. History's uprising is also it's corruption and downfall, looking at basic social issues it's evident.
every time i see europeans they seem .. just less materialistic and fake. They don't seem to sit in front of their tv's and xbox's as much as we do. plus women in europe seem less likely to 'fake' themselves up
I started writing a book in 2006. This last September I finished it and looked around. Talk about a Rip Van Winkle experience! Everyone is on Facebook and Twitter and no one visits people. I think I'll write another book. Who knows what it'll be like then.
We can look at technology as sophisticated training wheels to aclimate to a new experience. We must be careful not to stop with the training props and take more risks and actually live.
There is a balance between binging out on a new toy like Wii, cars, phones or computers, and demonizing technology at the other extreme. Now we can interact safely with people we may not be safe with in person. We can try a new sport or other new activity safely; the price, of course is that the experience isnt complete.
That's another thing (& I don't mean to provoke). Our society has become obsessed with comfort and safety, I look at those issues you mention as just relating to 'Life', one just has to live up to it. It's good for the person to 'test' themselves with new experiences, sights, conversations, reading material, hobbies & physical exercises, it's the only way we really discover who we are and they enable to orientate ourselves & choose the direction most suitable/rewarding to us.
Interesting thought: the trend of pursuing the fake, unreal, or virtual realities. To my line of thinking this is not a new trend. It is, however, much more technology based / dependent than it ever has been in the past. Pursuit of the fake, unreal? It seems to me that it is a human need, or deep internal desire, to escape reality; escapism. Look at the rise in movie attendance during the Great Depression. The centuries old low tech answer for escape? Religion
Its all fear. All of these people you discuss whether its tennis, sexual relationships or boobs say its more convenient but its not about that. They are afraid that they will fail in the real world and they know they don't have the natural ability to be 'successful' or succeed in their desire to be what they want ti be.
I've been noticing that but only when I moved to Germany. In Germany it isn't as bad as in the States but it's expanding and starting to become the same problem. In Germany the Mother would say home, the Father would go to work, and the kids go to school. after school lunch would be cooked and ready before the kids get home. same thing at night when the father gets back from work. when i moved over and explained our daily lives they were in shock! and saying no wonder americans are fat!
I always laugh when I see losers posing for group facebook pictures in the clubs. Do they actually think any of their facebook "friends" give a shit what they do. Some people have 500 people added on facebook, and maybe 8 of those are actually their real friends. I have only 4 friends. We always hangout together, and we dont take pictures when we are out on the town. We dont need to share the our group photos between us because we were there. And other acquaintances would not give a shit anyway
It's ironic that everyone who is watching this is using a computer or some type of stylish technology that allows internet use. The more we upgrade our mechanical systems of personal entertainment, the more we lose our humanity. Science fiction had it wrong. The human race isn't going to be turned into slaves by evil robots. We are going to do it ourselves. We let ourselves be the slaves of our machines. It's almost like a dependence.
I went to an art show two weeks ago and marveled at the pictures and the woman whose art I was so enthralled about told me quietly that her art was much less fulfilling now since anyone could do it. You take 100 pictures and there's always one really good one in there. Now where do I place my awe.... just inside the fact that someone still chooses to look and take great pictures. I guess so but it surely feels different.
It is a bit worrying how you see kids who quote videogame phrases on autopilot. You just think: how much human interaction do they get? Also thinks like Second Life etc put in so much distance that there have been divorces over it. I think to avoid things like this we should have more human contact and family time.
I grew up with women wearing makeup, but I realize now that it's artifice, and I want the truth instead. I'd never have a serious relationship with someone who chooses to cover herself up, because I want someone who cares about truth like I do.
What if... the case is that some of us simply don't like other people in general, and technology simply helps us see as little of them as we'd like? Indeed, it is not the tech that isolates us. We isolate ourselves. It's like saying having a car drives you to go places. No, you wanted to go places before the car. The technology is simply a medium. And if that's what people really want, isolation; then I see no evil in it. But then I'm just a troll that lives in a cave somewhere...
Well you prefer to speak to the anonymous masses about your ideas over the internet... so your also "in context" so to speak
Some may just prefer the company they can choose to have via internet or cell phones versus the people in the vicinity, which you can only choose to a certain extent...
What!!!, wait what do you mean?. Are you telling me that I'm not really a lvl 80 Warlock ?.
Blasphemy!!
Anyway moving on... I much rather rather to be a virtual Warlock, honestly, real life Magic powers sucks, I still can't cast a fireball or even transform into Super Saiyan 4.
I'd argue that what your calling fake or virtual is more real than the tangible world around us. just the fact that i can watch a video you made from anywhere in the world and give you my opinion of it is a testament to how technology empowers us as well as unites us.
Absolutely perfect video. This has bothered me for years, thank you for putting words to it(I've considered making a video on the subject, myself). We convince ourselves that we're in such a hurry, and thus ruling out the time it takes to have real experiences, and really, if we just took the time, we'd remember what that was like. Instead of TV dinners, try cooking or baking.
Web Bots have predicted a "tipping point" for Nov. 8-11, 2010. The last tipping point was Sept. 11,2001 and Web Bots predicted it, accurately, 95 days before it happened. The upcoming one will differ, inasmuch as it will be "much bigger", in terms of impact worldwide. It will be greater than all of the false flags, false wars, assassinations, economic terrorism, financial terrorism, fraudulent elections etc., of the past 60 years combined. Obama has arranged to be in the Orient Nov 4-14. Think.
Identification will be scanned whenever you purchase certain things like alcohol or marijuana...
Swipe your credit card, swipe your identification, there is a camera recording the transaction and all of that information goes to the databases of insurance companies, government agencies and financial institutions with your matching video.
Trade your privacy for a little bag of weed? STUPID!
Universal drug testing at work and $500.00 a month auto insurance. Ready?
in answer to protean's last question; most of us are aware of this change. why? because we're doing it ourselves. funny how you should mention this and forget the inherent irony, in so far as this being youtube and you being a serial vlogger.
Well if it gets people to stop fucking I'm all for it. There are way too many people on earth anyway. At least with web cam sex the worst you can catch ia computer virus lol. No but seriously humanity is being lost by the second and we are headed to oblivion...
I fucking hate plastic surgery (except when it is really needed...). And video games pretty much took up all the time of my childhood... so yeah, kinda hate that to.
People always seem to tend towards a fake reality, be it video games, a passion for fake beauty or religion. We're wierd.
Dude! I've been saying this forever! But no one listens... Maybe someone will listen now that you're saying it...
people are mostly slaves to sex and such relationships, always have been and probably always will be in my opinion. I think web cam sex might be a good alternative to avoid STDs and maybe a good alternative for those trying to kick sex addiction or - some other kind of addiction...
But I'm glad someone else noticed and said something...
Hey, I really like your videos. I love your style of provoking thought.
Response to video: Well is it technology that is separating us from others? I agree that a space alien may think that kid’s best friends are their computers seeing how much time they spend with them. But Unless you can pin point why all of a sudden children are growing up very shallow, then I would put forth that this had always been the case.
A cause of shallowness seems to be child abuse; there are correlations with an increase in expose to abuse as a child and promiscuity, addiction, gambling, drinking, drug use. All things that are concerned with the “material” rather than the intimate. I think technology has allowed us to amplify this shallowness so that it can be seen from space, but it has always existed.
I noticed. People are always playing on their phones rather than interacting with people around them. I have a kick ass phone but I rarely pull it out as a safety blanket.
LOL at all these comments I kind of knew this would happen but was hoping it wouldn't I love to comment back and fourth as I said I find the human mind intriguing but I dont want to fill his comments with this tone... so get back to commenting on fakeness, I left my comment :)
This is sort of the theme of the anime Chobits. People begin to prefer the company of their android computers to real people. Once AI becomes sophisticated enough, will we prefer to talk to computers online/over the phone/ via texting rather than real people? What is the future of society if that becomes the case?
Very good point you added about how we no longer smell like human beings. The United States is one of the most odorless cultures on the planet, and it looks like we will lead the world in other areas that vanquish the natural.
I've noticed it, but I think reality is overrated in a lot of ways. It's certainly not as consistent as we're led to believe it is. That's one reason I'm a surrealist.
like people sitting side by side at Starbucks texting each other, or people who live in the same house calling each other from the next room instead of walking 10 feet away. everyone in a waiting room or a line glued to their web enabled phone and disengaging from their neighbors.
You're totally right. With Facebook, twitter and other social networking sites and programs people get the illusion that they are so connected but in reality the world is just separated and I fear that the separation might extend to the point where people don't look each other in the face any more.
You annoy me somewhat.. Coming from the person with 172 videos that can't wait to tell others his views or something that happened to him.. I find a lot of your videos on the verge if not filled with hypocrisy and a faux confidence which is just arrogance.. your views on your own race and people are outlandish.. minus the racial elitism aka self-hate many of your videos Okay, why do blacks who arent ghetto think the problems of blacks are exaggerated or are to be mocked? Another level fakeness?
@aSheeple Guy? and Wtf are you talking about? A.) What makes you think I think his "fake" videos are pointless and not worth watching? B.) He doesn't think they are fake. C.) Bunch? D.) People in general are intriguing to me so I try to get a better understanding of them, unlike you, who has no clue why I say what I say, all you know is you didnt like it so you commented, no matter how off base and nonsensical your comments are, you just had to comment, i find you comment worthy too ;)
@MsInformitive hah, I did say guy, sory bout that. I was replying to your comment, expecting me to reply to 'why you say what you say' is ridiculous. all I know is what you SAID. Also, im not sure what you mean in points a, c, and d. again, I can only reply to what you actually say, and what you said didn't make sense.
@MsInformitive Why aren't I surprised that a black person found some way to make this vid about blackness? Stay on topic sister. This ain't about Pro or your jealousy & ignorance masked as pseudo psycho analysis. This dude is an individual. You just sound pissed that he's not like "most blacks". So what do you think of the topic? DUMB ASS & typical
@igotsissues i'm not here to sully this man's video, His Video is ABOUT FAKENESS. I replied with my answer about some of the fakeness in the world, and you are a prime example of why HE SHOULD SAY HE IS BLACK, you are a racist, he isnt like "other" blacks lol actually he is very typical as i said he's an average non-ghetto i'm non-black elitist bullsht spreader blk LOL most people think i'm one, but NO, very pretentious and fake. Just because i'm not from the hood doesnt mean i'm not black
@igotsissues And I certainly wouldn't ever utter i'm not black that only breeds hate and breeds as you said "he's not like other blacks" i loathe when people say that. Thats not a compliment thats an insult. How the fluck could i be a decent human being walking around happy thinking people see me as a special or different black, while the see the rest as what?.. No I am very average and am a indivual, judge me by me, and say i am black simply because my skin reflects it, Never call me a "other"
@MsInformitive All you did was sully the vid & didn't talk about the topic - the fakeness of technology. Besides how do his views on people like you make him fake? I got some views about trailer park trash. I'm white but I'm not one of them. It's not that he's not from the hood it's that he's not a whiny victim. Wrong assumption. What makes you think saying he's not like most blacks was supposed to be a compliment? Mmm-Hm. Just shows your own lack of self esteem and assumptions about whites.
@igotsissues No you are sullying this man's video, you did not need to respond to me, And your comments are beyond racist, did you just type that are you brain dead. What do you mean people like me? Did you just read what I wrote lol And your views and his views arent the same. You'd say you were white in a second, his views arent about trailer park "whites" but All "whites" in general.. reverse white with black he wants nothing to do with his race it doesnt exist to him.. thats extremely fake.
@igotsissues And lol at low self-esteem and assumptions, this has very little to do with white people other than many are racist leeches like you. That are quick to say this is an upstanding black man not like "most" blacks you're words not mine... I'm not whiny, just aware, I didnt even know i was "Black" until I was 17 I grew up very cookie cutter american "white" community.. I never knew what it meant to be black because it didnt effect me, I was that "other" if you hate black skin u hate me.
@MsInformitive It personally makes me sick to see an adult black man feeding people like you, instead of lifting up other blacks and crushing stereotypes. he feeds stereotypes and racism. And people like you gobble it up. His video was about fakeness no matter how much he says he isnt black, doesnt change his skin. If someone makes a - comment about black people they are talking about him.. me and him are similar but chose different paths, he says he's not black, I say I am. He feeds it, I dont
@MsInformitive I never heard Pro say he isn't black but what diff does it make? I mean why are you so concerned? If a white dude said he wasn't white I wouldn't care. What are you the black police? Get a life and do you sister. Here you go on and on about 1. race and 2. something he didn't say but all off the topic. Why do blacks like you turn everything into race? That's a lot of blacks have conflicts with all other races - Korean grocers, Mexican immigrants, whites, etc.
I thought myself to be somewhat isolated in this awareness, this shift from the personal to impersonal;text message anyone?
Western civilization is imploding upon its own weight and size like a dying star and we are witnesses to the shift toward efficiency, this pursuit, as if it could save it.
It cannot stop the inevitable.
Eastern culture is rising and will become a global force bringing the quality of the mutable and non absolutes the west struggles to understand.
"...and technology is separating us from reality" (3:24) Definitely. Last winter I realized there's a huge age/culture gap between me and people 10 years younger, more so than me ad people 30 years older. The younger folks grew up immersed in videogames. A 6th grade teacher told me that she kept having to have talks with her students about what is real and what isn't (& explain the stuff in video games isn't).
I am not a violent person at all but, I am a huge fan of violent first person shooters. I would never join the army or police. I hope I never have to experience violence like that in real life. Does that fit the message of this video as well?
It seem to me that people that are getting addicted to social networking as a replacement for real social experience. It makes people egocentric to the extreme and absolutely maddening to be around in real life.
I think the "fake lady" you're talking about and the fixation on virtual goods and communication are two different phenomenon. The former is good old rich people displaying their richness to separate themselves from the poor. Same reason purple was a royal color, the dye was expensive. The latter I think, is more to do with convenience. In the digital world, everything can be recreated instantly, sent anywhere in the world instantly, saved forever and shared with everyone taking almost no space.
But, isn't this very video going along the the very thing it warns about? The author is not exactly knocking door to door with his message but rather stands infront of a still, hollow machine eye and speaks while he is being recorded by a device. The message gets sent through a series of tubes plugged to said device and to a web server from which a bunch of people using their digital machines can then log onto.
He's right, though, as proved by his chosen means of conveying the message.
It's not the technology that's made us prefer the fake; it's how it gets pushed on us.
The existence of cars doesn't account for the lack of sidewalks, no engine blocks got together in conspiracy with radial tires to plan it; people in the auto and fuel industries with those in central planning did.
Humans love tools; and the vendors of tools love gadget-happy fucktards as clients.
Same goes for art and image becoming virtuality and fakeness.
I disagree that plastic surgery and wii tennis are in the same category.
The only similarity is the fact that both of them are 'fake'. Deoderants, clothes, plastic surgery are all done by people for vanity in relation to this 'real' world society. Where as stuff like playing wii tennis, webcam sex, is more of an attempt to stay the same, but in a different reality.
@tetsusaigaiy I think the prevailing impression I got was the perception of the Father, and perhaps the son, that Wii tennis was real tennis, as if playing on Wii was similar to playing on clay or grass, mainly due to preference.
@PainterofYou Don't you love when you invite someone to go somewhere & they're texting most of the time instead of jointly responding to stimuli together?
@Dustycajungurl Don't do it. It's a trap! ;-) I must admit, I love my mobile, but I turn it off when I'm w/others. I like the idea of 'not being home'. We're just expected to have one, especially when trying to meet someone and you're running late. The thing is, if I'm in a waiting room for more than a minute, out comes the mobile. I used to be able to just sit there & maybe read. Not any more.
I met my fiance on-line playing an MMO. Our relationship went from Virtual to Real within weeks. Technology is making our long-distance relationship much easier to bear. We actually use technology to bring ourselves together, not maintain our isolation. We'll be married and having kids soon enough, but I have responsibilities here, and we can't move in together yet, so all we can do is meet when we can, and see eachother online between then.
@nottinmatterz2day Fake breasts, botox, etc. It's just freaky to me. I can't imagine it truly turns any one one, but... Thanks for recognizing that this isn't just about electronics, but the artificial in general.
Yes I notice technology influencing everything. I'm a musician and there is not one visit to the guitar shop where I don't hear "oh have you played guitar hero yet???" My explanation for why people are like this usually ends up with the state. Without a state and monetary system capitalism dies from lack of cheer leading. That ends advertising and that completely reforms how we look at each other. Civilization cannot survive if people think for themselves. But it can change, for better or worse.
@letterboxheresy Haha! I got to give it to you for turning this around to be about your topic of choice - the state. I got a message from an atheist who managed to blame it on religion.
@tommylehman I wonder how it's changing our expectations of people, even though we may be repelled by botox and such. We don't always recognize it. I can barely sit through a movie anymore because I'm used to sifting through my tabs on my computer & the first sign of boredom.
Studies show my generation has lost 45 percent of its capability to feel empathy, I believe this can have something to do with our social system. However I believe the digital social life is needed. It's become part of us, like Glucose. Now we have to learn to manage it. This isn't a huge problem, but it could be a huge problem.
I liked this video and I wanted to comment. You know, it's very difficult nowadays just to get your friends to think about anything, period. Anything that doesn't come out of a TV. And if you're like me, your real life friends just do stupid stuff anyway--like give away their Facebook info to marketers--and so you spend so much time just getting them up to "functional 12th grade" (even though they're adults) you wind-up not caring about subtleties. Makes for a sledgehammer culture.
@freddietz96 I find it equally odd when folks I meet in real life want to give me their Facebook. I'm thinking, 'No. We've already breached real life. Why go to virtual. Just call me. Let's hang out. I'll get to know you that way.' Kicking & screaming, I tell you.
@proteusview W/Facebook, you can share specific cultural things, spiritual quotes & texts, beta-test videos before YouTube--but w/ my friends, it's more like a Bohemian game of piling-up pages of unmarried women they met at work or AA. I'm not recommending any back-to-nature commune, but when you give people every option to learn more, be more, and they rush right back to Plato's cave, then that's on them. Maybe I embarrass them with my intelligent "Likes". Or, at least I hope I do.
I do think it's kinda sad where people seem to be headed in society, but that's what people choose to do. They aren't being "isolated by technology" so much as they are choosing to isolate themselves. Yea I agree it's not a good thing, but that's what people choose to do of their own free will. It's not like they are hurting anyone other than themselves maybe. Besides what would be the solution? It's not like people can be forced to not do things with their free time or prefer fake over natural.
It seems like that until you question the thoughts of the average persons. Most peoples' thoughts are in alignment with the talking points of the mass media. I think people outsource their thinking without realizing they are doing so.
For instance, CNN often has false debates with two people against one another. Both people will make valid points but both will exclude a ton of info so the average person picks an uninformed side.
It's one of many subtle ways to have you choose a false side.
@kosai19 Great point. I've often thought the debates were to keep people confused about everything but you put it much better than I could so merci mon ami, actually a lot of good points here today. Strappinggermanlad has something to consider in their comment as well. I prefer and consciously chose to be out away from people and enjoy those I wish to see. Does that make me more real or less....I wonder.
People are weird. They look weird. They act weird. And they watch TV. What about natural life? About normal communications with people in normal settings? The TV has sucked up their life.
So, why all the fakeness? It is a way of protecting ourselves from the fact that reality isn't always perfect. We want our lives to be a safe and secure bubble that caters to our illusion, particularly when our ego is part of the equation. It is better to live a lie being happy than reality that is not so perfect.
Sorry about the number of posts... Damn character counts.
I have been a fan for a while. Keep up the great vids. They are always interesting and thought provoking...
In contrast, if you go to a developing country (such as Indonesia where I live this year), it is a mix of the two. Society is held together by collectivism but a new form of individualism is taken place, forcing the country to have to re-think the way that people interact and choose to identify themselves. Young people are starting to build up forms of self-dellusion and create a fake image of themselve to justify the impression the have of themselves.
If you go to third world country, there is more of a collective mindset. People rely on each other for survival, so there is often more attachment to other members in the community. Because of this, interaction is very personal and often quite honest and unguarded. There is nothing to be gained from individualism, so there is not the same level of people striving to separate themselves from the crowd. Thus, they do not need to isolate themselves.
The growing influence of individualism also helps to stoke our ego. It makes us feel like we are more important than we are. We are encouraged then (by external interests) to seek do validate our importance, through either consumerism or by expressing our opinion to people we will never meet. If we have to interact with the world, with strangers, this illusion may burst. I think subconciously we know this, and this is why we seek to isolate ourselves frrom a reality that can break this dellusion
I always remember how the TV Show Daria described internet cafes: "A room where you sit amongst strangers in silence whilst you talk to someone one the other side of the world."
The process of detachment is part of the growing influence of individualism. If we have no attachment to others or realtiy, it makes our actions seem of less consequence, and thus legitimises our behaviour. In developing countries, when collectivism is still part of their mindset, these problems are no so common.
Definitely on point. It always floors me when I'm at a live show that a few rows if not more of folk have their I-Phones whipped out. It's as if they prefer the proof of a live show than actually enjoying the moment of a live show.
I'm not emabarassed to admit that I've used a dating site now and again, but my intentions are always to GET DATES and get off the site as quickly and smoothly as possible. But then there are always the people (women I see, though I'm sure dudes are the same way) that are ALWAYS there! I can come back months later and see the SAME ones, still there time after time. I've gone so far as to write them and ask what their intentions are, are they actually looking for a date or just virtual attention?
@eluminated do you like dating? I think that concept is garbage also and fake i hate dating and refuse to. I think they had it right in a way back in the old days when parents had sense and aranged marriages for their children and cut out the dating game and i do mean game all together.
@TEEWEE01 Wow, really? I could never go for that arranged stuff. Even if I was arranged to marry a girl who turned out to be gorgeous, there's no way of knowing how the personalities are gonna mesh... it might be a life of hell once the honeymoon is over, lol. I much prefer dating, in fact so much so that I don't think I'll ever get married!! haha ;)... though ofcourse there's that "fake" period in the beginning when everyone's on their best behavior, but that's just part of the learning process
@eluminated there is no way of knowing how your going to mesh if you meet someone and date them for years either there are no garantee's in this world when it comes to relationships, and if all your looking for is a sexy looking girl thats all your going to get a shell of a sexy empty girl . As for the fake period are you being fake in the begining? If yes maybe you might want to be straight up and real in the very begining you can cut to the chase and forget the time wasted in the first place.
the consiquence of the fake world is children who cant accept or feel this isnt right not only the bullying but feeling this world is way of balance and hate it and dont feel that no matter what they cant contribute to a fake world and feel death is the solution because they dont fit in to a fake realm i had to take away the word reality because virtual is not reality.
@TEEWEE01 That's what really concerns me. There is a whole generation of kids coming up that only know this type of communication. They don't know what it's like to sit in a waiting room w/o constant e-communication. They can't appreciate the simplicity & authenticity of an actual photo, etc.
@proteusview yes i agee and thats why they are killing themselves because they think that is the real world and that world hates them , it cant hug them and tell them things are ok, now we have even adults who believe every damn thing CNN says just because they are behind the camera saying thats how it is, Those children that actually committed suicide have a disconnect somewhere and its not because they feel they are gay and got bullied because of their belief they dont know who they are yet.
and because they dont know who they are they believe what people say or that they know things arent right about how the world is moving they cant put their finger on why it feels so wrong they just know they feel its wrong and they dont fit in to this world. Now its about texting you dont even have to strain your vocal cords to cuss someone out you dont agree with you just text it out.
Absolutley friggin right!!!... I've noticed it for years now and it really bothers me... as I type on my computer to a person I only know in video, lmao. The irony is not lost on me. But who I'm afraid for is the younger gens.. Do kids today know what a football even feels like? The internet/virtual generation is something so unique to human history and we as a species have no real way of knowing what the results are going to be. From what I've seen though, it can't be good :(
I have noticed that trend for at least 5 years now. You can't beat natural, though, no matter how much bullshit is offered by those who profit off of the artificial for it being better. There is also a physical health and mental health price to pay for choosing the fake over the real.
@EvilUSAandthe911Lie My friend lives in West Los Angeles & folks call her a 'pretty, plain girl' because she has no weaves or botox or restilin or anything. In some circles, it's as if you're just supposed to & if you don't, it's because you can't afford it.
That's a real shame... Yeah, our culture has become so incredibly phony and superficial, I wonder if continuing to call it a "culture" is still appropriate.
I gotta admit that it's become an addiction. The virtual world.
It really is preferable to the real world. I hear the commentary of people towards others that are supposed to be their friends and family and am appalled sometimes.
If I was them, I'd whip out my Wii or iPhone and tune those assholes out, too.
@biozamadotcom You mean you don't want to feel weave tracks while running your fingers through a woman's hair? What an odd man you are, you neanderthal. ;)
THIS made me laugh, at first... I mean, your descriptions of the woman (hahah) and the Wii kid, really cracked me up. But, yes; Socially, we are really becoming more and more isolated. I PHONE my daughter/ her s.o.to say; GET OUT OF THE HOUSE, go SEE people!
And, yes; when I come online (par-example) and see that the SAME people are still here (esp a few idiots who do nothing else), and I ask them-- are you ALWAYS here? One thinks I am, tho I stomache ~an hour a day in yt,. I prefer LIFE!
This analysis is based on the assumption that what is in the outside world is, in fact, "real". People often think this is the case because we can "feel" the outside, and everything that goes on out there; yet no one bothers to mention, for example, that real human nature tends to rear it's head in the online world far more then the real one.
It's not so much about preferring the "fake" over what's "real" rather than just choosing whatever is more convenient per situation.
I partly sympathize with this type of criticism, but it always seems like what one expects an old person to say while reminiscing about the past. Plato complained about written text because it wasn't 'real' dialogue. It's just plain stupid. Everything is real. Anyway, real isn't always better. Would you rather have a real disease or medicine synthesized in the lab? If you want to make this criticism, then ultimately all of civilization isn't 'real'.
@MarmaladeINFP Yes, exactly. I run the risk of simply sounding like an old man. I'm sure for those who only know this world, I simply sound dated, but does it change the fact that some of this does affect our physical expectations and our attention spans?
@proteusview Let me say that I'm subscribed to your channel & enjoy your videos. I'm certainly not saying your commentary is without validity. It's just these days it seems like everyone is complaining about something or another. To be honest, I genuinely do think that human nature wasn't evolved for civilization & so of course modern life is far from being optimal. But the problems of civilization have been around for a few millennia. Humans always adapt which may or may not be a good thing.
@Captainchocolate1 Do you ever feel it's safer to keep them virtual and when the time comes to meet, you simply move on to the next virtual opportunity? I mean, do you 'get around the awkwardness' at the expense of actually meeting at some point?
Yeah I noticed a disconnect like robots I think it makes it easier for some to commit random crimes cause we are not socializing anymore or relating. Just individual robot isolated in our own worlds. Easier to brainwash and control..I think we are losing the value of relating, sacrifice and hard work also so obsessed with comfort and entitlement.
This I feel is a con of an industrialized nation, which rely on things instead of human interaction.
"There isn't a US Open on a Wii." There probably is some sort of tournament for WiiSports tennis, though. Most big games do have big, sponsored tourney's.
Good presentation, but you failed to account for the fact that since man uttered his first grunt or drew his first symbol in the sand, humans have been on a path to overcome the skull. From stone writing to wireless communication, our thoughts have been virtualizing to overcome time and space, even the intimate space within our skulls. It sounds like pure fantasy today, but as all aspects of virtual worlds excel in realism, they will eventually surpass it and become the new, preferred reality.
@BigMTBrain - In the context of my prior statement, I see it not so much as "the proud pursuit of fakeness", but more so the inevitable desire (side effect of having a human brain) to master, manipulate, control, shape, enhance, and extend reality as one desires.
I was just thinking about how fake people look a few days ago. I've grown to prefer porn from the 80's because if I watch any porn that was made recently, I feel like I'm jerking off to a different species.
Great point I totally agree. And I'm sure you will admit to virtual addiction I know I have some. But computers could be used for so much more powerful and more creative things but the internet is just so distracting people just browse around all day even for me its really distracting.
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If you ever see me looking at my phone, I'm not ignoring you... I'm looking at what time it is.
No one ever got angry when I looked at my wrist watch frequently, but now that my watch is my phone, everyone gets angry about it.
ehhhhhhhhhh 3 months ago
Seems like we're turning into post-human beings, every natural thing is replaced by some technological mimic. And our psychology is becoming like this too. People are already too dumbed down and naive to question this cultural tendency. No other species are so self-destructive and at war against reality like humans are. If we could, we would probably change our blood with embalming fluid, cause we're basically worshiping death.
Beatnuk 3 months ago
I for one prefer real everything.
chalkboardwarrior 7 months ago
"People who barely leave the house and are isolated by technology" I agree with your video but that caught me out as I'm one of these people, I've lived as a "hermit" for over three years now since I was 16, and I've had no major problems sustaining this lifestyle. During these three years I've ever only been outside, 4-5 times? This would have been impossible in any other time-frame in history. History's uprising is also it's corruption and downfall, looking at basic social issues it's evident.
DesolateManX 9 months ago
Lady GaGa is excellent and makes Madonna look like an amateur - Naked Lady Gaga. C0000M -
alivecobweb7 10 months ago
every time i see europeans they seem .. just less materialistic and fake. They don't seem to sit in front of their tv's and xbox's as much as we do. plus women in europe seem less likely to 'fake' themselves up
ashleypoo1319 10 months ago
I started writing a book in 2006. This last September I finished it and looked around. Talk about a Rip Van Winkle experience! Everyone is on Facebook and Twitter and no one visits people. I think I'll write another book. Who knows what it'll be like then.
Bettawoman 11 months ago
DJs make careers out of regurgitating other artist's music.
scotsmanlerxt 1 year ago
Dolly Parton grew up admiring "the town floozy" when she was growing up. Dolly made a career out of plastic.
scotsmanlerxt 1 year ago
We can look at technology as sophisticated training wheels to aclimate to a new experience. We must be careful not to stop with the training props and take more risks and actually live.
scotsmanlerxt 1 year ago
There is a balance between binging out on a new toy like Wii, cars, phones or computers, and demonizing technology at the other extreme. Now we can interact safely with people we may not be safe with in person. We can try a new sport or other new activity safely; the price, of course is that the experience isnt complete.
scotsmanlerxt 1 year ago
@scotsmanlerxt
That's another thing (& I don't mean to provoke). Our society has become obsessed with comfort and safety, I look at those issues you mention as just relating to 'Life', one just has to live up to it. It's good for the person to 'test' themselves with new experiences, sights, conversations, reading material, hobbies & physical exercises, it's the only way we really discover who we are and they enable to orientate ourselves & choose the direction most suitable/rewarding to us.
Celticlight1 1 year ago 3
Another great video. I noticed the same thing.
ultrraviolet 1 year ago
Wow, always droppin truth on us...Hell with twitter.
okturus 1 year ago
Ed: "Like this big plumped up duck with these huge over grown breasts" *video cuts to advertisement*
Me: ... the fuck?
Silvsilvchan 1 year ago
Interesting thought: the trend of pursuing the fake, unreal, or virtual realities. To my line of thinking this is not a new trend. It is, however, much more technology based / dependent than it ever has been in the past. Pursuit of the fake, unreal? It seems to me that it is a human need, or deep internal desire, to escape reality; escapism. Look at the rise in movie attendance during the Great Depression. The centuries old low tech answer for escape? Religion
Boydd21 1 year ago
RAHH ha ha! Simulacra in the making! Surrogate and The Matrix here we come! Look up Baudrillard's Simulacra and Simulation.
EverydayPlacebo 1 year ago
Its all fear. All of these people you discuss whether its tennis, sexual relationships or boobs say its more convenient but its not about that. They are afraid that they will fail in the real world and they know they don't have the natural ability to be 'successful' or succeed in their desire to be what they want ti be.
global001 1 year ago
LOL. This is a westernized version of beauty: PSEUDO-features!
EzraYisrael 1 year ago
I've been noticing that but only when I moved to Germany. In Germany it isn't as bad as in the States but it's expanding and starting to become the same problem. In Germany the Mother would say home, the Father would go to work, and the kids go to school. after school lunch would be cooked and ready before the kids get home. same thing at night when the father gets back from work. when i moved over and explained our daily lives they were in shock! and saying no wonder americans are fat!
nhahtrebor91 1 year ago
well itz time for me now 2 pack my bag,
ang go out to a juggling convention.
no phone, no photo, no internet.
just me all the people and ower juggling equipment.
glad im not 2 distant from reality.
but jah, ive tasted the fake on a regular basis.
see you again monday.
rechtschreibteufel 1 year ago
I always laugh when I see losers posing for group facebook pictures in the clubs. Do they actually think any of their facebook "friends" give a shit what they do. Some people have 500 people added on facebook, and maybe 8 of those are actually their real friends. I have only 4 friends. We always hangout together, and we dont take pictures when we are out on the town. We dont need to share the our group photos between us because we were there. And other acquaintances would not give a shit anyway
andron333 1 year ago
'Plastic People'
BLynchCAN 1 year ago
Ummm... yes I have noticed this trend.
sylence7 1 year ago
It's ironic that everyone who is watching this is using a computer or some type of stylish technology that allows internet use. The more we upgrade our mechanical systems of personal entertainment, the more we lose our humanity. Science fiction had it wrong. The human race isn't going to be turned into slaves by evil robots. We are going to do it ourselves. We let ourselves be the slaves of our machines. It's almost like a dependence.
JackDarksteel 1 year ago
I went to an art show two weeks ago and marveled at the pictures and the woman whose art I was so enthralled about told me quietly that her art was much less fulfilling now since anyone could do it. You take 100 pictures and there's always one really good one in there. Now where do I place my awe.... just inside the fact that someone still chooses to look and take great pictures. I guess so but it surely feels different.
Willowtable 1 year ago
It is a bit worrying how you see kids who quote videogame phrases on autopilot. You just think: how much human interaction do they get? Also thinks like Second Life etc put in so much distance that there have been divorces over it. I think to avoid things like this we should have more human contact and family time.
LuluLovesYouMore 1 year ago
I grew up with women wearing makeup, but I realize now that it's artifice, and I want the truth instead. I'd never have a serious relationship with someone who chooses to cover herself up, because I want someone who cares about truth like I do.
TheLonelyImmortal 1 year ago
What if... the case is that some of us simply don't like other people in general, and technology simply helps us see as little of them as we'd like? Indeed, it is not the tech that isolates us. We isolate ourselves. It's like saying having a car drives you to go places. No, you wanted to go places before the car. The technology is simply a medium. And if that's what people really want, isolation; then I see no evil in it. But then I'm just a troll that lives in a cave somewhere...
hallavast 1 year ago
Indeed...I'm trying to resist feeling inadequate in my realness.
ktodarling 1 year ago
Well you prefer to speak to the anonymous masses about your ideas over the internet... so your also "in context" so to speak
Some may just prefer the company they can choose to have via internet or cell phones versus the people in the vicinity, which you can only choose to a certain extent...
strappinggermanlad 1 year ago
What!!!, wait what do you mean?. Are you telling me that I'm not really a lvl 80 Warlock ?.
Blasphemy!!
Anyway moving on... I much rather rather to be a virtual Warlock, honestly, real life Magic powers sucks, I still can't cast a fireball or even transform into Super Saiyan 4.
Kimerats 1 year ago
I'd argue that what your calling fake or virtual is more real than the tangible world around us. just the fact that i can watch a video you made from anywhere in the world and give you my opinion of it is a testament to how technology empowers us as well as unites us.
godnothing666 1 year ago
Absolutely perfect video. This has bothered me for years, thank you for putting words to it(I've considered making a video on the subject, myself). We convince ourselves that we're in such a hurry, and thus ruling out the time it takes to have real experiences, and really, if we just took the time, we'd remember what that was like. Instead of TV dinners, try cooking or baking.
Eminemno1fan 1 year ago
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rollsthepaul 1 year ago
Hey Webcam sex kicks ass.... I love staring at women... especially when it's 1 lady licking the pussy of another!
But it is convenient to have that distance and not be required to waste time on fights or socializing.. Even though that isn't always a good thing.
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SirWinstonChurchill 1 year ago
in answer to protean's last question; most of us are aware of this change. why? because we're doing it ourselves. funny how you should mention this and forget the inherent irony, in so far as this being youtube and you being a serial vlogger.
hume12345 1 year ago
Guess what. This afternoon I'll be visiting the virtual park to walk my virtual dog and get some virtual exercise while I'm at it too!!
JuicYouS 1 year ago
I admit, I use games to block out my own feelings.
tHecOmMeNtErSrEtUrN 1 year ago
couldnt agree more, its sad to see what the worlds becoming...
tombraiderules4ever 1 year ago
Well if it gets people to stop fucking I'm all for it. There are way too many people on earth anyway. At least with web cam sex the worst you can catch ia computer virus lol. No but seriously humanity is being lost by the second and we are headed to oblivion...
Cheers everyone!
bugninja80 1 year ago
I fucking hate plastic surgery (except when it is really needed...). And video games pretty much took up all the time of my childhood... so yeah, kinda hate that to.
People always seem to tend towards a fake reality, be it video games, a passion for fake beauty or religion. We're wierd.
libbern 1 year ago
Dude! I've been saying this forever! But no one listens... Maybe someone will listen now that you're saying it...
people are mostly slaves to sex and such relationships, always have been and probably always will be in my opinion. I think web cam sex might be a good alternative to avoid STDs and maybe a good alternative for those trying to kick sex addiction or - some other kind of addiction...
But I'm glad someone else noticed and said something...
cheers!
J0ker4u 1 year ago
Hey, I really like your videos. I love your style of provoking thought.
Response to video: Well is it technology that is separating us from others? I agree that a space alien may think that kid’s best friends are their computers seeing how much time they spend with them. But Unless you can pin point why all of a sudden children are growing up very shallow, then I would put forth that this had always been the case.
TheGodofAtheists 1 year ago
A cause of shallowness seems to be child abuse; there are correlations with an increase in expose to abuse as a child and promiscuity, addiction, gambling, drinking, drug use. All things that are concerned with the “material” rather than the intimate. I think technology has allowed us to amplify this shallowness so that it can be seen from space, but it has always existed.
TheGodofAtheists 1 year ago
I noticed. People are always playing on their phones rather than interacting with people around them. I have a kick ass phone but I rarely pull it out as a safety blanket.
meeputube 1 year ago
@meeputube Well said! I couldn't agree more!
J0ker4u 1 year ago
Well reality TV is what makes reality look bad. They need to cancel all reality shows.
theboombody 1 year ago
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LOL at all these comments I kind of knew this would happen but was hoping it wouldn't I love to comment back and fourth as I said I find the human mind intriguing but I dont want to fill his comments with this tone... so get back to commenting on fakeness, I left my comment :)
MsInformitive 1 year ago
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MsInformitive 1 year ago
This is sort of the theme of the anime Chobits. People begin to prefer the company of their android computers to real people. Once AI becomes sophisticated enough, will we prefer to talk to computers online/over the phone/ via texting rather than real people? What is the future of society if that becomes the case?
ppardee 1 year ago
good thought
chimalu 1 year ago
Very good point you added about how we no longer smell like human beings. The United States is one of the most odorless cultures on the planet, and it looks like we will lead the world in other areas that vanquish the natural.
Ponerology 1 year ago
I've noticed it, but I think reality is overrated in a lot of ways. It's certainly not as consistent as we're led to believe it is. That's one reason I'm a surrealist.
theboombody 1 year ago
like people sitting side by side at Starbucks texting each other, or people who live in the same house calling each other from the next room instead of walking 10 feet away. everyone in a waiting room or a line glued to their web enabled phone and disengaging from their neighbors.
aSheeple 1 year ago
You're totally right. With Facebook, twitter and other social networking sites and programs people get the illusion that they are so connected but in reality the world is just separated and I fear that the separation might extend to the point where people don't look each other in the face any more.
YankoBG94 1 year ago
You annoy me somewhat.. Coming from the person with 172 videos that can't wait to tell others his views or something that happened to him.. I find a lot of your videos on the verge if not filled with hypocrisy and a faux confidence which is just arrogance.. your views on your own race and people are outlandish.. minus the racial elitism aka self-hate many of your videos Okay, why do blacks who arent ghetto think the problems of blacks are exaggerated or are to be mocked? Another level fakeness?
MsInformitive 1 year ago
@MsInformitive says the guy with nothing better to do than watch a bunch of "fake videos" and leave messages on them that say "your fake"
aSheeple 1 year ago
@aSheeple Guy? and Wtf are you talking about? A.) What makes you think I think his "fake" videos are pointless and not worth watching? B.) He doesn't think they are fake. C.) Bunch? D.) People in general are intriguing to me so I try to get a better understanding of them, unlike you, who has no clue why I say what I say, all you know is you didnt like it so you commented, no matter how off base and nonsensical your comments are, you just had to comment, i find you comment worthy too ;)
MsInformitive 1 year ago
@MsInformitive hah, I did say guy, sory bout that. I was replying to your comment, expecting me to reply to 'why you say what you say' is ridiculous. all I know is what you SAID. Also, im not sure what you mean in points a, c, and d. again, I can only reply to what you actually say, and what you said didn't make sense.
aSheeple 1 year ago
@aSheeple exactly it wasnt meant for you, if you didnt know what was behind it you shouldnt have commented.
MsInformitive 1 year ago
@MsInformitive I think you may not understand the concept of a public message board.
aSheeple 1 year ago
@MsInformitive Why aren't I surprised that a black person found some way to make this vid about blackness? Stay on topic sister. This ain't about Pro or your jealousy & ignorance masked as pseudo psycho analysis. This dude is an individual. You just sound pissed that he's not like "most blacks". So what do you think of the topic? DUMB ASS & typical
igotsissues 1 year ago
@igotsissues i'm not here to sully this man's video, His Video is ABOUT FAKENESS. I replied with my answer about some of the fakeness in the world, and you are a prime example of why HE SHOULD SAY HE IS BLACK, you are a racist, he isnt like "other" blacks lol actually he is very typical as i said he's an average non-ghetto i'm non-black elitist bullsht spreader blk LOL most people think i'm one, but NO, very pretentious and fake. Just because i'm not from the hood doesnt mean i'm not black
MsInformitive 1 year ago
@igotsissues And I certainly wouldn't ever utter i'm not black that only breeds hate and breeds as you said "he's not like other blacks" i loathe when people say that. Thats not a compliment thats an insult. How the fluck could i be a decent human being walking around happy thinking people see me as a special or different black, while the see the rest as what?.. No I am very average and am a indivual, judge me by me, and say i am black simply because my skin reflects it, Never call me a "other"
MsInformitive 1 year ago
@MsInformitive All you did was sully the vid & didn't talk about the topic - the fakeness of technology. Besides how do his views on people like you make him fake? I got some views about trailer park trash. I'm white but I'm not one of them. It's not that he's not from the hood it's that he's not a whiny victim. Wrong assumption. What makes you think saying he's not like most blacks was supposed to be a compliment? Mmm-Hm. Just shows your own lack of self esteem and assumptions about whites.
igotsissues 1 year ago
@igotsissues No you are sullying this man's video, you did not need to respond to me, And your comments are beyond racist, did you just type that are you brain dead. What do you mean people like me? Did you just read what I wrote lol And your views and his views arent the same. You'd say you were white in a second, his views arent about trailer park "whites" but All "whites" in general.. reverse white with black he wants nothing to do with his race it doesnt exist to him.. thats extremely fake.
MsInformitive 1 year ago
@igotsissues And lol at low self-esteem and assumptions, this has very little to do with white people other than many are racist leeches like you. That are quick to say this is an upstanding black man not like "most" blacks you're words not mine... I'm not whiny, just aware, I didnt even know i was "Black" until I was 17 I grew up very cookie cutter american "white" community.. I never knew what it meant to be black because it didnt effect me, I was that "other" if you hate black skin u hate me.
MsInformitive 1 year ago
@MsInformitive It personally makes me sick to see an adult black man feeding people like you, instead of lifting up other blacks and crushing stereotypes. he feeds stereotypes and racism. And people like you gobble it up. His video was about fakeness no matter how much he says he isnt black, doesnt change his skin. If someone makes a - comment about black people they are talking about him.. me and him are similar but chose different paths, he says he's not black, I say I am. He feeds it, I dont
MsInformitive 1 year ago
@MsInformitive I never heard Pro say he isn't black but what diff does it make? I mean why are you so concerned? If a white dude said he wasn't white I wouldn't care. What are you the black police? Get a life and do you sister. Here you go on and on about 1. race and 2. something he didn't say but all off the topic. Why do blacks like you turn everything into race? That's a lot of blacks have conflicts with all other races - Korean grocers, Mexican immigrants, whites, etc.
igotsissues 1 year ago
I thought myself to be somewhat isolated in this awareness, this shift from the personal to impersonal;text message anyone?
Western civilization is imploding upon its own weight and size like a dying star and we are witnesses to the shift toward efficiency, this pursuit, as if it could save it.
It cannot stop the inevitable.
Eastern culture is rising and will become a global force bringing the quality of the mutable and non absolutes the west struggles to understand.
zoticus1 1 year ago
"...and technology is separating us from reality" (3:24) Definitely. Last winter I realized there's a huge age/culture gap between me and people 10 years younger, more so than me ad people 30 years older. The younger folks grew up immersed in videogames. A 6th grade teacher told me that she kept having to have talks with her students about what is real and what isn't (& explain the stuff in video games isn't).
Kentagerna 1 year ago
I think you've represented perfectly what Isaac Asimov was trying to tell us.
Lepiratepoulpe 1 year ago
I am not a violent person at all but, I am a huge fan of violent first person shooters. I would never join the army or police. I hope I never have to experience violence like that in real life. Does that fit the message of this video as well?
It seem to me that people that are getting addicted to social networking as a replacement for real social experience. It makes people egocentric to the extreme and absolutely maddening to be around in real life.
devildad1620 1 year ago
I think the "fake lady" you're talking about and the fixation on virtual goods and communication are two different phenomenon. The former is good old rich people displaying their richness to separate themselves from the poor. Same reason purple was a royal color, the dye was expensive. The latter I think, is more to do with convenience. In the digital world, everything can be recreated instantly, sent anywhere in the world instantly, saved forever and shared with everyone taking almost no space.
s3rpic0 1 year ago
@GrudgyDiablo he's not gonna come door to door and tell you
nottinmatterz2day 1 year ago
Incredible Insight and Well Articulated.
Faved & Facebooked : )
ModernDeism 1 year ago
But, isn't this very video going along the the very thing it warns about? The author is not exactly knocking door to door with his message but rather stands infront of a still, hollow machine eye and speaks while he is being recorded by a device. The message gets sent through a series of tubes plugged to said device and to a web server from which a bunch of people using their digital machines can then log onto.
He's right, though, as proved by his chosen means of conveying the message.
unabomberman 1 year ago
True.
taratasarar 1 year ago
Janet Jackson has beautiful boobs so I don't know why you would reference her. Janet is beautiful and real.
godnotfound 1 year ago
It's not the product, it's the propaganda.
It's not the technology that's made us prefer the fake; it's how it gets pushed on us.
The existence of cars doesn't account for the lack of sidewalks, no engine blocks got together in conspiracy with radial tires to plan it; people in the auto and fuel industries with those in central planning did.
Humans love tools; and the vendors of tools love gadget-happy fucktards as clients.
Same goes for art and image becoming virtuality and fakeness.
ZejithThemis 1 year ago
perhaps he should refer to it as e-tennis. lol
goddamn humans are screwed.
onlywhenprovoked 1 year ago
Proteanveiw, there's a new book out you might be interested in called The Shallows.
EyeLean5280 1 year ago
I disagree that plastic surgery and wii tennis are in the same category.
The only similarity is the fact that both of them are 'fake'. Deoderants, clothes, plastic surgery are all done by people for vanity in relation to this 'real' world society. Where as stuff like playing wii tennis, webcam sex, is more of an attempt to stay the same, but in a different reality.
tetsusaigaiy 1 year ago
@tetsusaigaiy I think the prevailing impression I got was the perception of the Father, and perhaps the son, that Wii tennis was real tennis, as if playing on Wii was similar to playing on clay or grass, mainly due to preference.
warmacre 1 year ago
im sorry but i perfer fake war (in videogames) to real war any day.....
but other than that i believe im in agreement with your points made... :P
boberto13k 1 year ago
@PainterofYou Don't you love when you invite someone to go somewhere & they're texting most of the time instead of jointly responding to stimuli together?
proteusview 1 year ago
@Dustycajungurl Don't do it. It's a trap! ;-) I must admit, I love my mobile, but I turn it off when I'm w/others. I like the idea of 'not being home'. We're just expected to have one, especially when trying to meet someone and you're running late. The thing is, if I'm in a waiting room for more than a minute, out comes the mobile. I used to be able to just sit there & maybe read. Not any more.
proteusview 1 year ago
I met my fiance on-line playing an MMO. Our relationship went from Virtual to Real within weeks. Technology is making our long-distance relationship much easier to bear. We actually use technology to bring ourselves together, not maintain our isolation. We'll be married and having kids soon enough, but I have responsibilities here, and we can't move in together yet, so all we can do is meet when we can, and see eachother online between then.
It's not perfect, but it works.
nate556 1 year ago
I've noticed this trend
it can lead to a digital brave new world
nottinmatterz2day 1 year ago
i do not like fake breasts
nottinmatterz2day 1 year ago
@nottinmatterz2day 100% thumbs up.
raythetse 1 year ago
@nottinmatterz2day Fake breasts, botox, etc. It's just freaky to me. I can't imagine it truly turns any one one, but... Thanks for recognizing that this isn't just about electronics, but the artificial in general.
proteusview 1 year ago
@proteusview VIdeo games, and different training make soldiers kill another man more often in todays wars than in WWI and WWII
nottinmatterz2day 1 year ago
dead on.
ummband 1 year ago
Yes I notice technology influencing everything. I'm a musician and there is not one visit to the guitar shop where I don't hear "oh have you played guitar hero yet???" My explanation for why people are like this usually ends up with the state. Without a state and monetary system capitalism dies from lack of cheer leading. That ends advertising and that completely reforms how we look at each other. Civilization cannot survive if people think for themselves. But it can change, for better or worse.
letterboxheresy 1 year ago
@letterboxheresy Haha! I got to give it to you for turning this around to be about your topic of choice - the state. I got a message from an atheist who managed to blame it on religion.
proteusview 1 year ago
Absolutely. I find myself in danger of the very thing you mention.
tommylehman 1 year ago
@tommylehman I wonder how it's changing our expectations of people, even though we may be repelled by botox and such. We don't always recognize it. I can barely sit through a movie anymore because I'm used to sifting through my tabs on my computer & the first sign of boredom.
proteusview 1 year ago
how funny r u today..."Ï "could take a pin and pop it ", "there isnt a US open for wii"" and less messy OMG U cracked me up hahaha
r u digitalised ??? lol
Badwolf182 1 year ago
We are who we chose to be. society and technology don't adversely affect us that way imo.
mohedd 1 year ago
I just saw a movie called we live in public the other day, and what you're explaining was what was explained in the movie.
Knk082 1 year ago
Studies show my generation has lost 45 percent of its capability to feel empathy, I believe this can have something to do with our social system. However I believe the digital social life is needed. It's become part of us, like Glucose. Now we have to learn to manage it. This isn't a huge problem, but it could be a huge problem.
AlphaHorizon 1 year ago
The barbarians outside the gate.
firemarshall007 1 year ago
I liked this video and I wanted to comment. You know, it's very difficult nowadays just to get your friends to think about anything, period. Anything that doesn't come out of a TV. And if you're like me, your real life friends just do stupid stuff anyway--like give away their Facebook info to marketers--and so you spend so much time just getting them up to "functional 12th grade" (even though they're adults) you wind-up not caring about subtleties. Makes for a sledgehammer culture.
freddietz96 1 year ago
@freddietz96 I find it equally odd when folks I meet in real life want to give me their Facebook. I'm thinking, 'No. We've already breached real life. Why go to virtual. Just call me. Let's hang out. I'll get to know you that way.' Kicking & screaming, I tell you.
proteusview 1 year ago
@proteusview W/Facebook, you can share specific cultural things, spiritual quotes & texts, beta-test videos before YouTube--but w/ my friends, it's more like a Bohemian game of piling-up pages of unmarried women they met at work or AA. I'm not recommending any back-to-nature commune, but when you give people every option to learn more, be more, and they rush right back to Plato's cave, then that's on them. Maybe I embarrass them with my intelligent "Likes". Or, at least I hope I do.
freddietz96 1 year ago
I do think it's kinda sad where people seem to be headed in society, but that's what people choose to do. They aren't being "isolated by technology" so much as they are choosing to isolate themselves. Yea I agree it's not a good thing, but that's what people choose to do of their own free will. It's not like they are hurting anyone other than themselves maybe. Besides what would be the solution? It's not like people can be forced to not do things with their free time or prefer fake over natural.
JapedosToast 1 year ago
The future of this trend is the movie 1984.
I think this has more to do with people not thinking thoughts outside of what they are told to think through media and government.
kosai19 1 year ago
@kosai19 That's going way too far.
AlphaHorizon 1 year ago
It seems like that until you question the thoughts of the average persons. Most peoples' thoughts are in alignment with the talking points of the mass media. I think people outsource their thinking without realizing they are doing so.
For instance, CNN often has false debates with two people against one another. Both people will make valid points but both will exclude a ton of info so the average person picks an uninformed side.
It's one of many subtle ways to have you choose a false side.
kosai19 1 year ago
@kosai19 Great point. I've often thought the debates were to keep people confused about everything but you put it much better than I could so merci mon ami, actually a lot of good points here today. Strappinggermanlad has something to consider in their comment as well. I prefer and consciously chose to be out away from people and enjoy those I wish to see. Does that make me more real or less....I wonder.
Willowtable 1 year ago
Weird.
People are weird. They look weird. They act weird. And they watch TV. What about natural life? About normal communications with people in normal settings? The TV has sucked up their life.
MarkBH70 1 year ago
Alienation sweeps the nation.
macnutz 1 year ago
So, why all the fakeness? It is a way of protecting ourselves from the fact that reality isn't always perfect. We want our lives to be a safe and secure bubble that caters to our illusion, particularly when our ego is part of the equation. It is better to live a lie being happy than reality that is not so perfect.
Sorry about the number of posts... Damn character counts.
I have been a fan for a while. Keep up the great vids. They are always interesting and thought provoking...
CrazedCousinDougal 1 year ago
In contrast, if you go to a developing country (such as Indonesia where I live this year), it is a mix of the two. Society is held together by collectivism but a new form of individualism is taken place, forcing the country to have to re-think the way that people interact and choose to identify themselves. Young people are starting to build up forms of self-dellusion and create a fake image of themselve to justify the impression the have of themselves.
CrazedCousinDougal 1 year ago
If you go to third world country, there is more of a collective mindset. People rely on each other for survival, so there is often more attachment to other members in the community. Because of this, interaction is very personal and often quite honest and unguarded. There is nothing to be gained from individualism, so there is not the same level of people striving to separate themselves from the crowd. Thus, they do not need to isolate themselves.
CrazedCousinDougal 1 year ago
@CrazedCousinDougal Great comment. We're so separated. We rely on either businesses or government instead of community. We could probably
learn a lot about the cooperative 'state' of much of the 'Third World' communities.
proteusview 1 year ago
The growing influence of individualism also helps to stoke our ego. It makes us feel like we are more important than we are. We are encouraged then (by external interests) to seek do validate our importance, through either consumerism or by expressing our opinion to people we will never meet. If we have to interact with the world, with strangers, this illusion may burst. I think subconciously we know this, and this is why we seek to isolate ourselves frrom a reality that can break this dellusion
CrazedCousinDougal 1 year ago
I always remember how the TV Show Daria described internet cafes: "A room where you sit amongst strangers in silence whilst you talk to someone one the other side of the world."
The process of detachment is part of the growing influence of individualism. If we have no attachment to others or realtiy, it makes our actions seem of less consequence, and thus legitimises our behaviour. In developing countries, when collectivism is still part of their mindset, these problems are no so common.
CrazedCousinDougal 1 year ago
Definitely on point. It always floors me when I'm at a live show that a few rows if not more of folk have their I-Phones whipped out. It's as if they prefer the proof of a live show than actually enjoying the moment of a live show.
strangebee 1 year ago
@strangebee Exactly. "Look where I am" instead of being where they are.
proteusview 1 year ago
.... says the guy on youtube :)
jjcale1111 1 year ago
I'm not emabarassed to admit that I've used a dating site now and again, but my intentions are always to GET DATES and get off the site as quickly and smoothly as possible. But then there are always the people (women I see, though I'm sure dudes are the same way) that are ALWAYS there! I can come back months later and see the SAME ones, still there time after time. I've gone so far as to write them and ask what their intentions are, are they actually looking for a date or just virtual attention?
eluminated 1 year ago
@eluminated do you like dating? I think that concept is garbage also and fake i hate dating and refuse to. I think they had it right in a way back in the old days when parents had sense and aranged marriages for their children and cut out the dating game and i do mean game all together.
TEEWEE01 1 year ago
@TEEWEE01 Wow, really? I could never go for that arranged stuff. Even if I was arranged to marry a girl who turned out to be gorgeous, there's no way of knowing how the personalities are gonna mesh... it might be a life of hell once the honeymoon is over, lol. I much prefer dating, in fact so much so that I don't think I'll ever get married!! haha ;)... though ofcourse there's that "fake" period in the beginning when everyone's on their best behavior, but that's just part of the learning process
eluminated 1 year ago
@eluminated there is no way of knowing how your going to mesh if you meet someone and date them for years either there are no garantee's in this world when it comes to relationships, and if all your looking for is a sexy looking girl thats all your going to get a shell of a sexy empty girl . As for the fake period are you being fake in the begining? If yes maybe you might want to be straight up and real in the very begining you can cut to the chase and forget the time wasted in the first place.
TEEWEE01 1 year ago
the consiquence of the fake world is children who cant accept or feel this isnt right not only the bullying but feeling this world is way of balance and hate it and dont feel that no matter what they cant contribute to a fake world and feel death is the solution because they dont fit in to a fake realm i had to take away the word reality because virtual is not reality.
TEEWEE01 1 year ago
@TEEWEE01 That's what really concerns me. There is a whole generation of kids coming up that only know this type of communication. They don't know what it's like to sit in a waiting room w/o constant e-communication. They can't appreciate the simplicity & authenticity of an actual photo, etc.
proteusview 1 year ago
@proteusview yes i agee and thats why they are killing themselves because they think that is the real world and that world hates them , it cant hug them and tell them things are ok, now we have even adults who believe every damn thing CNN says just because they are behind the camera saying thats how it is, Those children that actually committed suicide have a disconnect somewhere and its not because they feel they are gay and got bullied because of their belief they dont know who they are yet.
TEEWEE01 1 year ago
and because they dont know who they are they believe what people say or that they know things arent right about how the world is moving they cant put their finger on why it feels so wrong they just know they feel its wrong and they dont fit in to this world. Now its about texting you dont even have to strain your vocal cords to cuss someone out you dont agree with you just text it out.
TEEWEE01 1 year ago
Absolutley friggin right!!!... I've noticed it for years now and it really bothers me... as I type on my computer to a person I only know in video, lmao. The irony is not lost on me. But who I'm afraid for is the younger gens.. Do kids today know what a football even feels like? The internet/virtual generation is something so unique to human history and we as a species have no real way of knowing what the results are going to be. From what I've seen though, it can't be good :(
eluminated 1 year ago
you got good faces that was funny the surprised fish face look lol.
TEEWEE01 1 year ago
I have noticed that trend for at least 5 years now. You can't beat natural, though, no matter how much bullshit is offered by those who profit off of the artificial for it being better. There is also a physical health and mental health price to pay for choosing the fake over the real.
EvilUSAandthe911Lie 1 year ago
@EvilUSAandthe911Lie My friend lives in West Los Angeles & folks call her a 'pretty, plain girl' because she has no weaves or botox or restilin or anything. In some circles, it's as if you're just supposed to & if you don't, it's because you can't afford it.
proteusview 1 year ago
@proteusview
That's a real shame... Yeah, our culture has become so incredibly phony and superficial, I wonder if continuing to call it a "culture" is still appropriate.
EvilUSAandthe911Lie 1 year ago 7
yeah, the electronic filter.
It's pretty bad.
I gotta admit that it's become an addiction. The virtual world.
It really is preferable to the real world. I hear the commentary of people towards others that are supposed to be their friends and family and am appalled sometimes.
If I was them, I'd whip out my Wii or iPhone and tune those assholes out, too.
biozamadotcom 1 year ago
as a Straight man, I totally prefer real and natural women.
I can't really understand the plastic girls. they turn me off.
biozamadotcom 1 year ago
@biozamadotcom You mean you don't want to feel weave tracks while running your fingers through a woman's hair? What an odd man you are, you neanderthal. ;)
proteusview 1 year ago
THIS made me laugh, at first... I mean, your descriptions of the woman (hahah) and the Wii kid, really cracked me up. But, yes; Socially, we are really becoming more and more isolated. I PHONE my daughter/ her s.o.to say; GET OUT OF THE HOUSE, go SEE people!
And, yes; when I come online (par-example) and see that the SAME people are still here (esp a few idiots who do nothing else), and I ask them-- are you ALWAYS here? One thinks I am, tho I stomache ~an hour a day in yt,. I prefer LIFE!
annebeck58 1 year ago
Bet you can't delete your facebook account.
Mortello 1 year ago
I think you'd enjoy the book "Society of the Spectacle"
BabyHominid 1 year ago
This analysis is based on the assumption that what is in the outside world is, in fact, "real". People often think this is the case because we can "feel" the outside, and everything that goes on out there; yet no one bothers to mention, for example, that real human nature tends to rear it's head in the online world far more then the real one.
It's not so much about preferring the "fake" over what's "real" rather than just choosing whatever is more convenient per situation.
Saaduk92 1 year ago
interesting vid
aweiss 1 year ago
I partly sympathize with this type of criticism, but it always seems like what one expects an old person to say while reminiscing about the past. Plato complained about written text because it wasn't 'real' dialogue. It's just plain stupid. Everything is real. Anyway, real isn't always better. Would you rather have a real disease or medicine synthesized in the lab? If you want to make this criticism, then ultimately all of civilization isn't 'real'.
MarmaladeINFP 1 year ago
@MarmaladeINFP Yes, exactly. I run the risk of simply sounding like an old man. I'm sure for those who only know this world, I simply sound dated, but does it change the fact that some of this does affect our physical expectations and our attention spans?
proteusview 1 year ago
@proteusview Let me say that I'm subscribed to your channel & enjoy your videos. I'm certainly not saying your commentary is without validity. It's just these days it seems like everyone is complaining about something or another. To be honest, I genuinely do think that human nature wasn't evolved for civilization & so of course modern life is far from being optimal. But the problems of civilization have been around for a few millennia. Humans always adapt which may or may not be a good thing.
MarmaladeINFP 1 year ago
Yess. I prefer virtual relationships. Finally people like me have a way of getting around our awkwardness for social situations.
Captainchocolate1 1 year ago 13
@Captainchocolate1 Do you ever feel it's safer to keep them virtual and when the time comes to meet, you simply move on to the next virtual opportunity? I mean, do you 'get around the awkwardness' at the expense of actually meeting at some point?
proteusview 1 year ago
@proteusview All the time. I'd rather be alone than in an uncomfortable, compromising situation.
Captainchocolate1 1 year ago
@Captainchocolate1
Yea, people are diffirent and have diffirent needs. Even when masses want everyone be like them.
Arppis 1 year ago
Yeah I noticed a disconnect like robots I think it makes it easier for some to commit random crimes cause we are not socializing anymore or relating. Just individual robot isolated in our own worlds. Easier to brainwash and control..I think we are losing the value of relating, sacrifice and hard work also so obsessed with comfort and entitlement.
This I feel is a con of an industrialized nation, which rely on things instead of human interaction.
JamConcerned 1 year ago
Are you shure 'IT was a woman?
GreatDepressionTwo 1 year ago
Reality is not something you escape from, its something you escape to.
mopme2008 1 year ago
great video
roblesterfilms 1 year ago
"There isn't a US Open on a Wii." There probably is some sort of tournament for WiiSports tennis, though. Most big games do have big, sponsored tourney's.
jjmblue7 1 year ago
@jjmblue7 LOL. I was going to offer the same possibility. ;)
warmacre 1 year ago
Good presentation, but you failed to account for the fact that since man uttered his first grunt or drew his first symbol in the sand, humans have been on a path to overcome the skull. From stone writing to wireless communication, our thoughts have been virtualizing to overcome time and space, even the intimate space within our skulls. It sounds like pure fantasy today, but as all aspects of virtual worlds excel in realism, they will eventually surpass it and become the new, preferred reality.
BigMTBrain 1 year ago
@BigMTBrain - In the context of my prior statement, I see it not so much as "the proud pursuit of fakeness", but more so the inevitable desire (side effect of having a human brain) to master, manipulate, control, shape, enhance, and extend reality as one desires.
BigMTBrain 1 year ago
good video. thank you.
fal2grace 1 year ago
I love big tits
WKaliberr 1 year ago
I was just thinking about how fake people look a few days ago. I've grown to prefer porn from the 80's because if I watch any porn that was made recently, I feel like I'm jerking off to a different species.
borstalboy1981 1 year ago
Great point I totally agree. And I'm sure you will admit to virtual addiction I know I have some. But computers could be used for so much more powerful and more creative things but the internet is just so distracting people just browse around all day even for me its really distracting.
djgiga 1 year ago
thank you for talking about this!!! it actually makes me feel less isolated in my thinking, and makes me feel better lol
krissyheartyou 1 year ago