Barack Obama - 'We want well-educated children in our country'

[onstageagain]

People constantly speak of Obama doing this or that, as they might speak of God doing it. But he & his cohorts are really nothing but a group of men, usually they are very inferior men. They may have some better man working for em, but they themselves are seldom worthy of any respect. This pack of second hand politicians does not solve problems. It subsidizes them ! So far, he does two things well, nothing & overreacting

[gnash555]

"The trouble with Socialism is that, sooner or later, you run out of other people's money..." Margaret Thatcher

[avionicswirenut]

He does not want educated people. Educated people are a threat to the bullshit that our government is doing....An educated and armed nation is a free nation and a threat to a corrupt government....DREAM - Detain, Re-locate, Exterminate, All, Mexicans ...

[greyblue87]

vote hell no for the dream act fuck obaoma i really hope he gets voted out in 2012 what a loser!!

[Nikpablo]

VOTE YES FOR DREAM ACT

[Sorealcrewfan]

i think the Dream Act should be passed.

1. the kids didnt choose to be brought here they had no idea

2. there is kid who are citizens that are a waste a spance at least these kids are trying to help the world in some kind of way

3. what happened to america being the "Land of Oppurtunity"?

4. What's wrong with immigrants becoming citizens??

5. have you noticed these immigrants are probably smarter than most American students

[thewwmm25]

@Sorealcrewfan it just got killed...it's just sad.. there could of been a guy who wanted to study medicine and get an oportunity in this country and find something like a cure for cancer, you know what I mean?

[ticks4ticks4]

YES! The DREAM Act **Did NOT pass!" a VICTORY! Keep on dreaming! And go back to your own country! Wars were won; laws were passed. Obey the law! Legal USA citizens need help--not illegal ones!

[fweeeew]

No to the Dream Act----no automatic citizenship simply for attending college----it's bad enough taxpayers have to foot the bill for illegals to attend university. Join the military for 4 years at 18 as the children of undocumented entrants.....then we will discuss a green card and a 10 year wait for citizenship.

[madeinar2]

@fweeeew COUGH COUGH college is not free, and illegals cant go to college even if tax payers paid for college.

So i dont believe there are any illegals attending college on tax payer money, but then again the government can do w.e it wants with tax payer money, like have a senseless war, or send troops outside the country to fight for another cause.

[Titalabebe]

Mr. President i was born in South California and my mother is single mother say hi to your daughters Malia and Sasha i hope their are the next president of U.S.A Malia & Sasha please tell your daddy Obama to support the Dream Act please i beg you at least you have a mommy Michelle and daddy with you family is more important in life you know i am 11 years old and i have little brothers Thank You kisses & Hugs

[Capefear00]

I have a dream, that all the illegals return home

[godhashealed]

"As long as they pay more than me" lol so you can only succeed when the playing field is corrupt and unfair to other participants? Don't give me the taxes bs argument, because heres a new term for ya, ITIN look it up!. I know charge you with it being so hot in my town because I don't like heat. Thats basically how your logic sounds to me, you confuse CIR prospects with DA prospects.

[ElPadreAmaru]

I prepare taxes and the with the ITIN those fuckers are entitled to get returns some which are massive. Most of them have a lot of children so you can imagine how much they get back

[godhashealed]

Think about it, if the IRS even issues ITIN why do you think they would rather pay taxes here instead of deporting all undocumented immigrants?....They are not dumb, they realize that should "enforcement only" policies will ruin the fragile economy....you think the US is in a recession now? you'd be surprised the impact of not having the undocumented workforce.

[ElPadreAmaru]

BUT THEY USE THE ITINS TO GET RETURNS!!! As someone who works with the IRS I know what I am talking about. The illegals get money and back sometimes use their children to maximize their returns. Yes they don't get much as a legal person but they do receive money back sometimes more than they pay. Yes, fruit prices will skyrocket but the American standard of living will also.

[godhashealed]

"American standard of living will also"....Umm in your dreams maybe....Have you not noticed how the price of wheat went up(due to bio fuel usage) thus causing a "domino effect"?....that's just one crop, now imagine a multi-domino effect!!

[ElPadreAmaru]

bio fuel mostly uses corn... just go to any gas station in Nebraskla. I do think there are Americans who would work in the fields for a higher price of course. My point is that your defending of illegals serves corporate interests and is anti-working class. Yes, the price of fruit will go up so will the price of meat BUT IT WILL BE WORTH IT.

[HOFD555]

exactly! We want "educated" students who will contribute to the nation and continue to allow USA to be the most POWERFUL nation in the world!! Go DREAM ACT! Let's give these students a chance!!!

[TheHenryrivera]

I'm with you.

[ElPadreAmaru]

I rather give Americans a chance

[godhashealed]

Nothing is preventing Americans from earning a college education...their chance is there, its not the potential DREAM Act recipients fault that they might not take full advantage of it. Shit they can even receive fed gov't money. Something the recipients won't be able to so your "Americans" have NO EXCUSE not to succeed.

[ElPadreAmaru]

The problem I have with this nightmare act is that it amplifies competition for Americans. I don't want to compete with illegals for a spot on the political science dept or the math one. I don't. Why should I have to? Americans should come first to the govt. This is just corporatism. Wake up and smell the shit! Just because they're your people doesn't mean you have to defend them

[godhashealed]

Your making it seem that Americans cannot earn a spot in Universities which is just stupid. First of all not only do you already compete for those spots with "illegals" but actual foreigners i.e. student visas and such...the question isn't why should you have to but why shouldn't you? you feel superior to other human being or something? What makes you different from those not blessed to have 9 digits? Aww are you afraid of a little competition? Maybe u should of earned a higher gpa in school.

[ElPadreAmaru]

I should compete AS LONG AS THEY PAY MORE THAN ME. The problem with this legislation is that it puts Americans' best interests second. My ideas may sound protectionist but the facts are that we are in a recession and double digit employment. Is it logical to give illegals an opportunity to compete with American citizens who pay their taxes and are here legally? This is just jumping illegals to the front of the line. Its immoral and criminal

[Tr1llmatic]

Good thing you're a dying breed.

[ElPadreAmaru]

not really. More Americans are becoming aware of this

[godhashealed]

Actually yes really....AMERICANS became aware of the bigotry and ignorance that has had a breeding frenzy in the minds of idiots....why do you think so many seats were switched in the last elections?

[ElPadreAmaru]

I'm actually a liberal who hold my beliefs to a higher degree than political ambition. Enforcing the laws is not bigotry. So if I was a police officer and pulled over a white guy for speeding I'm a bigot? I'm sorry but your argument lacks any substance or plausability

[godhashealed]

"Enforcing the laws is not bigotry" enforcing unjust laws, that stem from bigotry and hatred towards the different is un-AMERICAN. You accepted the lies spread by known hate groups(such as Fakenumberusa) and now feel "illegals" are the cause of many "bad ills". "Liberals" are still susceptible towards idiocy, like any other human being. This and many arguments of DA supporters is what will in the end prove triumphant over unjust ignorance.

[ElPadreAmaru]

You are assuming things about me that are not true. Illegals are not the cause of problems in the US, it has been a complex history that the US has had with the world in particular Mexico, China, Central America, etc. I am not placing any blame on illegals AT ALL. I would have to ignore decades of American interventionism and expansionism. BUT the law is the law, and the law states that no individual is above it. I can't support illegals especially when corporations exploit them.

[godhashealed]

Your arguments fail in regards to the DA because your talking about "illegals" that had a conscience say in the matter. Think about it, imagine being held accountable for the actions of others?.....they are exploited because of the taboo of being undocumented amongst so many other reasons.

[ElPadreAmaru]

NO, they're exploited because of the ease and their vulnerability

[RickPaniagua]

Could you consider young children who were brought here illegally, with no fault, conscious individuals who are CONSCIOUSLY breaking the law? Blame the parents for "seeking the american dream" and taking space and wasting taxpayers money... but the young, smart child full of potential, who deals with the hardships of illegal status, growing as a true AMERICAN, DESERVES the opportunity. Liberal/Conservative views are irrelevant. What is relevant is the humane consideration of the American people.

[ElPadreAmaru]

I'll give them the same consideration that the Mexican govt. gave to Central American refugees.

I am on the fence regarding this subject but I am a little weary of saying "mass deportation". I just don't think that anyone who is illegaly in this nation should receive any service unless it is life and death. I don't really care if they are children. If they want to go to school, Xochicalco School in Tijuana is pretty good

[mumbajumba1]

This is a very good idea! GO DREAM ACT!

[pr05]

vote no for the nightmare act!!!

[ndcupcake]

II vote yes for the dream act!

[BrownGirl4589]

Dream Act!!

[pr05]

keep dreaming it wont pass

[dredlocksoldier1]

YES!

[pr05]

yeah right!

[dredlocksoldier1]

sarcastic aren't you?

[pr05]

yeah, aint it cool?

[dredlocksoldier1]

very