1997 World Champs 4x100m women American Record

[pointhimout]

where's the clip of the 96 Olympics, women relay? the guys are up, but not the women. I see some company's selling a dvd of some sorts.

[CHEETAH69]

this should have been a world record. easy.

[markguest36]

what a clean team!!! not!

[yungstunna217]

Everyone is so quick to say this team wasn't clean just because the US has had their share of druggies in the past. Just because that is so, that does NOT mean that every person or relay that does well is tainted. There are so great, clean, and honest athletes out there, such as Gail Devers. What's even worse is that, ive checked other videos, and people have RARELY mentioned the possibility of drugs or said anything negative about the Jamaican team that came out of nowhere in 2008. SMH

[pmodel1]

Devers really didn't have any work to do here. She ran an excellent leg, but I like Always felt better with Torrence on anchor. She always ran down the competition.

[ridgeforresterda3rd]

devers was pure power

[ABPSN21]

we all know the white people wasn't going to win. black people are the best athletes on the planet.

[kiomastar2]

WHOA!!!!! fast!~~~!!!!!!

[shockjay]

This should be a World Record. All of the Eastern European marks should be thrown out faster than a spoiled egg.

[paulouk83]

are you joking? this team is hardly clean!

[MultiTrackstar123]

@paulouk83 the only person thats not clean is marion jones

[paulouk83]

@MultiTrackstar123 Cryste gaines seriously? i know inger was banned for a minor substance so i'll let that go!

[newtcummer1]

Because I'm a guy watching female track and field turns me on. Why are you guys talking about the men? Those four women could all make my bedroom a gold medal

[tietajajoshua]

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[Bahia82]

OH please you guys are such haters, the US was not the first or the last to use steriods, just this year lone 3 Jamaicans got in trouble to Drug usage of is Usain bolt on steriods? Were better because we train better and have more heart

[butler372]

so what?

[ajanijam]

why Ottey was not in the relay?

[Branded1978]

She was injured.

[csportmaria]

Ottey said she was tired and that she wouldn't have been able to hold off Christine Arron.

[5Marlon1Montana2]

Bolt runs 3rd leg and I know you seen it at the olympics.

[GundaBadmarsh]

Yes he did! But I said he ran the 2nd leg in the 2007 WC's!

[garyoak300]

Jamaica will break the world record if they get the baton around. The positions should be Sherone Simpson, Kerron Stewart, Veronica cambell Brown, and Shelly Anne Fraser anchoring. I cose cambell Brown third because shes the best corner runner by far. Simpson got a graet start in the 100m and shelly has great top end speed.

[sportnerd112]

I think that if they practice they will

I like ur running order but here is the team Fraser/Simpson/Campbell/Stewar­t

[garyoak300]

it was simpson, stewart,campbell fraser

thanks also :)

[sportnerd112]

I place a different order

Like I said I like ur squad but I differ

[beenoon]

Jamaicans will break WR record in this event this season. If Simpson recovers from surgery or Facey gets stronger.

[sportnerd112]

they just have broken the world record, I think had Gwen Torrence been on that squad they would have smashed it

[libratb23]

Getting your gold medal in the mail 8yrs later, doesn't even begin to tell the story of the monumental damage done by cheaters. MARION JONES and other cheaters should be removed from the history books for good and forever.

[libratb23]

For example ,PAULINE DAVIS-THOMPSON of the Bahamas who toiled for many,many years as the lone track athlete from her country, finished second to her in the 200m at the Sydney Olympics .That little country was robbed of seeing their athlete stand atop the podium with her gold medal and hearing their national anthem in front of millions. All because of Marion's selfishness,greed and dishonesty .

[libratb23]

Marion JONES has proven to be a very good DENIER and LIAR ,so i question all races that she was in,no matter if its before 2000. She is a disgrace,as well as all who have cheated with her . They have ruined the history of the sport and robbed clean athletes of their moment,money and memories.

[libratb23]

Its a pity now that you look back at this race to know most of these US female sprinters were DRUG cheats robbing other countries of their natural glory .

[Paco801]

Actually no because Devers never used steroids and Marion jones wasn't on nothing back then it was the summer of 99 when she took the clear, this was a clean race.

[sequiaonda78]

These girls for the USA should have broken the WR

[appleshape]

gail devers and her ugly nails.... yay america!!!

[lukezclay]

Wouldn't it be a boring world if everyone had the same notions of beauty? I can understand that Devers' fingernails are not to your taste, but they're certainly interesting and memorable. They give some flavor and color to the moment.

[Bahia82]

Inger Miller never took Steriods!! its disturibing that her name is put in the category when its not true. Kelli white, Christie Gaines, Marion Jones were all caught. Inger mIller never got involved in that stuff

[phaethon1988]

Privalova, Ottey, and Devers are the best starters ever. We need more sub 7second starters. Perhaps lauryn williams or Lisa Barber? Or Angela Williams?

[kjackson2k1]

angela williams should get Jon Drummond status on the 4x1 women's relay...lead-off duty until she retires, because she is an excellent starter.

[Bahia82]

I love me some inger miller

[stevie586]

Marion Jones KILLED her leg...and, check out how flawless Gail Dever's form is...NICE!

[GundaBadmarsh]

That WR by The East Germans will never be beaten. Even this American team with Devers, Jones & Miller couldn't break it!

[mr2313al]

DO u see how Gail opened up on dem! she is truely da greatest! NAIL AND ALL! L0L

[dcrobinson10]

how can devers grab the baton with those long nails?

[lukezclay]

They create a talon-like effect and she is able to seize the baton from the preceding athlete. They give her a competitive edge.

[loaactnow]

Flojo had long nails also

[mr2313al]

Gail is THE GREATEST hands dwn! The badest anchor u ever want!

[GundaBadmarsh]

Gail Devers is a legend a d one of my fav female atheletes but i think i saw her being run down by Privalova once in a world champs relay. Think the gest anchors of the 20 odd years, in no particular order, are Ashford, Torrance & Ottey

[KayBlaze03]

I don't remember Gail dever being run down on an anchor leg by Privalova. If you're referring to 1993 WC, when they clocked the same time (41.49), I believe I read somewhere that Privalova received the baton just before Devers, but Devers' split was faster, meaning that she wasn't run down, but she just didn't pass her in the end. Gail Devers is my all-time favorite as well. Too bad there aren't many more athletes like her.

[KayBlaze03]

Gail Devers* - my bad

[loaactnow]

I saw the race and Devers couldnt hold off Privalova

[KayBlaze03]

I don't remember Gail Devers being run down on an anchor leg by Privalova. If you're referring to 1993 WC, when they clocked the same time (41.49), I believe I read somewhere that Privalova received the baton just before Devers, but Devers' split was faster, meaning that she wasn't run down, but she just didn't pass her in the end. Gail Devers is my all-time favorite as well. Too bad there aren't many more athletes like her.

[cjportmaria]

Correct. I think Devers split about 0.03 faster than Privalova.

[phaethon1988]

What exactly were their splits?

[cjportmaria]

I am trying to remember.. Devers 9.86 and Priv 9.89

[loaactnow]

you got it. devers was run down at the 93 WC where Torrence ran 2nd leg that year for some dumb reason. Ashford was amazing in 88 espcially getting the baton late from Flojo, what was going on there?!!! and Torrence was awesome in 92, 95, and 96!

[GundaBadmarsh]

Yep strange decision to put Devers on anchor especially after Torrance's run in '92 but i suppose as Olympic & World Champ you have the right to be the anchor! Flojo ran an absolute shocker in 88 - think she was playing it safe but think that's one of the worst 3rd leg runs i've seen!

[loaactnow]

i think Flojo may have been tired. She ran two world records in the 200m and had to run a 400m after the 4x1 too bad they didnt have the moving camera at track side back then.

[GundaBadmarsh]

can't have been that tired she ran sub 49sec for her leg of the 4x400!!! yep shame they didn't have that track-side camera, which would have shown what a shocker she had!

[loaactnow]

yep she would have outran the camera

[Aarontlondon]

She didn't just run sub 49 secs, she ran 48.1 which is just crazy considering she didn't compete in the individual 400m!

But yes, I agree the 3rd leg wasn't so impressive, but it wasn't her fault- whoever decided to put her on the third leg was just plain stupid - why would u do that?! She should have run the second leg to take full advantage of her unmatchable speed. And then with Asford running anchor... well GDR and USSR wouldn't have stood a chance at any point of the race.

[CHEETAH69]

aarontlondon, I aree with you 100% Flo Jo should have been 2nd or 4th leg on that relay. To put your fastest runner on the 3rd leg is just stupid. I mean each of the runners on that team was running well under 11. There's no earthly reason why they shouldn't have broken the WR. Instead, they just BARELY won.

[Aarontlondon]

too right!

[50meVistabel]

right on

[jbrumundsmith]

@CHEETAH69 That is a statement not founded in logic. What is wrong with third leg? People seem to think that second leg is the "longest" leg even though it's possible to make it the SHORTEST leg. The third has just as much potential to be the longest leg as does the second leg. Flo Jo was great curve runner, so putting her on the third leg seems to be a good idea. I would have liked to see her anchor too, but they had a pretty decent anchor in Evelyn Ashford. Their handoffs were bad.

[CHEETAH69]

@jbrumundsmith nothing's wrong with the 3rd leg. it's just not a leg that best utilizes a sprinter's all out speed. The proof? Take a look at the 2nd rate runner giving flojo a run for her money on that leg from East Germany. A team with Brown, Joyner, Torrence and Ashford (and good passing) could have annihilated the old standard. And sorry, I just can't be made t believe that 1988 flojo on that long back stretch couldn't have done amazing things if allowed.

[MrFlexybee]

@CHEETAH69 if Flo Jo had run the second leg ,ashford would have also run a comfortable anchor for the US.Flo jo had an incredible speed which would have destroyed the back stretch.anyway it was still good they got someday in form to run the last leg.the final of the 4*100m relay in 1988 really shows who should have won the open 100m.Ashford really deserved that gold medal better than anyone else.

[CHEETAH69]

@MrFlexybee I love me some ashford. she's one of my favorites. but the great thing about track is that the one who "deserves" to win doesn't. It's the person who's fastest. At these games, it was flojo.

[twannifufu]

@Aarontlondon I 100% agree. I think they put Griffith 3rd leg due to her performance at the '87 Worlds, and because she was the best curb runner in the world. But still, I would've put her 2nd leg cuz that other 2nd leg was crap, she should have been 3rd leg. That's the problem with U.S. relays - we don't rely on strategy; in the end we feel that pure speed will prevail.. and that's why we haven't won an Olympic 4x100m since 2000 for men & 1996 for women.

[SerchWagnerianBear]

LOL You've got to be kidding me. You guys are all wrong !!! Griffith ran a superb 9.82 split. That's the fastest 3rd leg split in history and it's faster than most all-time 2nd and anchor legs (usually the fastest cause they're straight). You don't believe me? Check it out. Remember guys at the bend the more outside the longer the bend is. Being the GDR and USSR inside Griffith looked like she wasn't making any impression but actually she made up much more than Ashford who ran 10.10

[SerchWagnerianBear]

What happened is Florence being the monster of the track she was (drug-aided, that's out of question) everybody was expecting the US to be way out ahead as she passed the baton, but the thing is the first two US leg runners had average splits (11.4 and 10.7) and like I said, regardless it doesn't look like due to the bend, she made up much more than Evelyn Ashford

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[CHEETAH69]

Isn't the 3rd leg, technically a bit shorter than the 3rd and 4th legs. I was surprised at flojo's 3rd leg in Seoul. I thought she'd be further out. And yeah I know how impressive her leg was considering the soviet girl inside of her couldn't pull away. The U.S. coaches should have put Florence on the 2nd leg. Had gwen on 3rd and kept alice at first. It would have been a WR no doubt. 41.1 easy!

[Cippen88]

The 2nd is the longest leg and therefore not the fastest.

[SerchWagnerianBear]

I didn't say the 2nd is the fastest. I said both the 2nd and achor legs are. Among them, the anchor leg is the fastest. Now, when the 2nd leg is longer (uses to be a little longer but not always; depends on strategy and on the passes) still it's faster than the 1st and 3rd, because its straightness and no need of acceleration from 0 impact more in speed than its length

[Cippen88]

99 percent of the times the 2nd leg is the longest. If you want to run in the best way possible, you take the longest runner to run that leg, just like the US did in this race with Marion Jones. The 3rd leg isn't necessarily slower than the second, depending on the ability of the runner to run in a bend, and in flojo's case, how much steroids you've put into your body.

[SerchWagnerianBear]

Agreed. I was the one emphasizing how fast Flojo's 3rd leg was in the first place.

[Cippen88]

Which I noticed and used in my own reply. But I don't agree that flojo is the only one who can (could) run an extremely fast bend, which you suggest. Clean runners can do it as well. If the fastest woman in the world would run the 2nd leg and the best bend runner (if it's not the same person) runs the 3rd, I think it's rather obvious which leg is going to be the fastest.

[SerchWagnerianBear]

I never suggested she's the only one who can do it. Have been so many awesome runners after her. Now, as for times,she is the fastest so far(9.82 for a 3rd leg). SO FAR, won't last for ever I think :) But tell me something, I feel it bothers you that I mentioned all this because she was a cheat. Let me tell you, I just wrote a comment trying to clarify some data. That's it. That flojo impressed me. sure, a lot, who didn't?. That doesn't mean I'm OK with drugs.

[Cippen88]

Lets get this straight: You are wrong when you say that the 3rd leg is slower than the 2nd. With equally good runners the 3rd is faster. It is also pointless to write about what flojo did. She was, as you said, a cheat and therefore I don't care even the slightest about her performances. You can't compare her to anyone really, because she was out of this world (not in a positive way) in 1988.

[SerchWagnerianBear]

No, I'm not. Some examples from th all-time list: Team/date/, 2nd, 3rd, : USA/09.08.1997/9.91, 10.35. Russia/22.08.1993/10.11, 10.12. USA/22.08.1993/9.80,10.40. USA/03.08.1996/10.03,10.38. USA/01.09.2007/10.28, 10.44. Jamaica/01.09.2007/10.38,10.52­. Bahamas/03.08.1996/10.02, 10.46. Jamaica/03.08.1996/10.11, 10.58. Germany/11.08.2001/10.35, 10.68. Nigeria/03.08.1996/10.42,10.63­. and there's more.

[SerchWagnerianBear]

In the all-time list 15 races out of 21 (splits reported) which 2nd leg is faster than 3rd, eventhough the 2nd is longer (99% of the times, you said).Any other proof? End of subject. Get over it. My source is alltime-athletics com

[Cippen88]

If you had taken the time to look closely at the times on alltime-athletics you would have seen that some of the times in the relays don't add up at all. The page is made by a swede, but isn't recognised by the Swedish Athletics Association. This because of the fact that the founder has no valid sources. You really should read up on those things before making a comment.

[SerchWagnerianBear]

I'm pretty sure you know no one might possibly provide an official splits source. The IAAF(intl athletics) doesn't consider splits official. EVERY SINGLE split list, alltime-athletics included, shows the same pattern and times vary only hundredths. I have the numbers, my info is verifyable and, most important, conclusive . What you have at this point, I'm sorry, is just your humble opinion. Unless you support your next comment with verifyable, solid info, I'm afraid I won't further reply

[SerchWagnerianBear]

I'm pretty sure you know no one might possibly provide an official splits source. The IAAF(intl athletics) doesn't consider splits official. EVERY SINGLE split list, though, alltime-athletics included, shows the same pattern and times vary only hundredths. I have the numbers, my info is verifyable and, most important, conclusive . What you have at this point, I'm sorry, is just your humble opinion. Unless you support your next comment with verifyable, solid info, I'm afraid I won't further reply

[5Marlon1Montana2]

It all depends on the runner. Some guys/girls might be faster on the curb or run the straight faster than the other runner.

[Aarontlondon]

3 of the 4 women in this American line-up were found guilty of drug use. I'm starting to think American dominance in track and field is as flawed as the East German's was in the 80s

[yungstunna217]

this race was in 1997. None of them were found guilty of drug use during the time of this race. Marion's use of drugs was in preparation for 2000, three years later.. and Gail Devers have always been drug free, so im assuming the other two were Miller and Gaines? I havent heard much about their drug use.

[Aarontlondon]

Yes I know the race was in 1997. Being found guilty at the time is irrelevant. We all know Jones was doping for years and she was never found guilty by testing. Devers was clean, I know! But Gaines and Miller were found to be involved in the same Balco scandal involving Jones, Thanou and many others. They were using a drug that was undetectable until 2004 when it all fell apart. Read about it

[Aarontlondon]

Oh and you'd have to be incredibly naive to believe Marion Jones when she says she only started doping in 2000! She's a liar and a cheat and only said this cause she was in best record breaking form in '98 and '99 and wants to make it seem as if she didn't need drugs!

[DYNASTYO5]

Well I for one believe her. The only thing she cares about right now is her son. She came forward and handed herself in and that took courage. I saw her confession statement and it seemed so geuine. It would make no sense for her to lie again if indeed she was using here. I don't buy it.

[Aarontlondon]

Ok, she ran 21.62 200m into a head wind the day before running 10.65 100m in '98! If she was clean then, why on earth would she decide to do drugs in the '99 season, and continue to do so for years after, but still never again come near to running those 'drug free' times of '98? You don't dope to run slower!

If she admitted she'd lied from the start, she would have to return ALL the prize money and accolades she ever won - THIS was her, thinking about her son!

[CHUNKEY70]

Not not necessarily. Sometimes drugs can do you more harm than good and actually hnder your progress. She was a lot younger in 98' like Felix is now but without the pressure so it would have been easier for her to make those times. If she wants to get out quicker which i believe she does she'll lay everything on the table. So no, I don't think she was using backk then either. But hey, no one can say for sure.

[Aarontlondon]

Drugs can hinder? Come on, athletes who are clean and don't win anything are always invisible until they dope and then win. This would indicate that people DO dope to achieve their goals, not to run slower!

If she was capable of running 10.65 cleanly (and please note she ran under 10.8 about 15 times in 98 & 99) she would have no pressure. Why would you, when you're able to run half a second faster than the second best 200m runner? She could have been slightly injured and still won everything

[CHUNKEY70]

your making a generalisation there. Still proves nothing.

[Aarontlondon]

Well the result of the argument is still inconclusive, neither you nor I can prove whether she persisted to lie or not. I guess only Marion knows the real truth, but common sense will always prevail over gullibility.

[CHUNKEY70]

Its got nothing to do with ommon sense. There are pro's and cons for both sides of argument. To me its pointless for her to be lying here.

[Rettamann]

Spot on Aarontiondon. Why the hell would anyone running 10.65 and well under 22 4 the 2 want to start on the drugs. CJ Hunter threw mud at her well b4 the Sydney Olympics and with hindsight I'm inclined to believe him. I'm sick of reading "they never failed a test so we'll give them the benefit of the doubt" bullshit!!!! Well I won't. Failed test or no failed test, Marion Jones will go down in my book as a big Olympic fraud along with Ben Johnson and Flo Jo but to name a few.

[loaactnow]

Amen

[SEXYSEXY9944]

the girrl from bahamas had the first leg but they messed up bad on the second leggggg danm bad misstake

[zunk11]

The steroidal savage Jones finishes dead last.

[Kar16d]

actually she didn't take roids untill 2001

[AB5309]

2000 Summer Olympics Sydney, Australia dq 100 m 10.75

dq 200 m 21.84

dq Long jump 6.92

2001 IAAF World Championships Edmonton, Canada dq 100 m 10.85

dq 200 m 22.39

2002 IAAF World Cup Madrid, Spain dq 100 m 10.90

quite clearly states that jones took drugs before 2001 thats why all her results have been nulled from 2000 onwards.

[wisefun]

The goverment Drug addicts support, "Atletes for help"

[bab5757]

miller and gaines were caught but east germany world record since 30 is a "clear" governement eternal record

[Dancenmachine81]

Track star Marion Jones admits doping before 2000 Sydney Games

By The Associated Press

October 4, 2007

Marion Jones admitted using steroids before the 2000 Olympics in a recent letter to close family and friends, The Washington Post reported Thursday.

Jones, a triple gold medalist in Sydney, said she took "the clear" for two years, beginning in 1999, and that she got it from former coach Trevor Graham, the newspaper reported. Graham told her it was flaxseed oil.

[lacheyrulez]

back then gail could acutlly beat marion lol

[Lionn18]

Do u have women's 200m in this championship.

[KayBlaze03]

FINALLY!!!!!!! I have been searching all over for this video!! Thanks so much for posting. Gail Devers is my favorite athlete of ALL TIME!!

[Warmachine300]

Gail Devers is the best! Thanks for the upload. Do u have any relay's from barcelona? Also I've been looking the men's 4 x 400 from Sydney

[PePinmySteP]

wow!do you some relays from atlanta?