I dont understand how it makes the Jewish Saga a lie... if they are all the same people, then thats what the "Jewish Saga" says it was only one people. Only in somewhat "modern" times what have historians/anthropologist made a distinction. What was the lie?
Phoenicians were originally white race, Ph = F or V = Veneti or Venedi or Vendels; ancestors of modern Slavs, Swedish, Germanic, Celtic, Baltic people (R1a, R1b haplogroups)
@Askar9992 Phoenician "runes" as Orthodox "history" know them today were based on Rasen (Etruscan), Vinca inscriptions, which go further to the past. Besides word "Phoenician" derived from word Veneti, similar colony on Paflagonia was Troja. They(Trojans - "of the 3nity") were by Homer himself also called Enedae, which is greek transliteration without letter V (Venedae). Baal = Slavic god Vaal or Vool or Veles, god of cattle, birth and larger astronomical cycle in Bull constellation
King Ramses ll had a vagina inscripted on the entrance gate of the phoenicians showing that they bowed down to the Egyptians and didn't want to fight but if u fought Egypt and lost then a man's testicles would be drawn to show that even though u lost u fought with courage...so Phoenicians were really bitches and their origin was black but became cowards when they mixed with the sea peoples
The Phoenicians were envy'd by everyone because they were the best civilisation in human history, theres high chances you haters still envy us today because of my ancestors achievements, and by the way, when Alexander was attacking the city of Tyre some Phoenicians fled to North Africa where the city of Carthage was established, but dont forget after the crusades war in Jerusalem ended, muslims went to Algeria and Morocco thats why you will also find arab DNA there
@ouwetwarrior All researches done In Moocco and Algeria don't show any Arab DNa markers. Like this one of Dr. Spencer Wells wheretalks about that the Cartginians where abroiginal people of North Africa the Imazighen(Berbers). DNA evdince is UNDISPUTED prove. And the Ummaayds who wanted to conwuer North Africa where destroyid by The Imazighen in 740 and again in 741 in the Battle of Bagdoura. No Arabs in Morocco, Algeria, Tunes, Libya and Egypt.
@zizouzenati I just realised that Arab DNA doesn't exist, arabism is a culture but in Lybia they have Phoencian Ancestry because the city of Carthage was established there.
Im sorry but I think its very ignorrant to the point of stupidity when this video has a scientist who studies DNA and you still make a reference to looking up "sea people" and that theyre actually Greek... You are obviously a man of science who studies DNA... NOT!!!
The J marker originated in Yemen and infact the biggest concentration of J Haplogroup is in Yemen 89%. All SEMITES originated from Yemeni Arab tribes.
Phoenicians were not semites, they were Greeks known as "sea peoples from the north" later known as Phoenicians and later known as Caananites ...and later holocausted by desert savages known as Jews, just google "sea peoples" ..
Can you add some more info on Phoenicians on my next upload on 9/11 Film Synchronicity and Goldman Sach front aka Pheonician Ent 99-01 pumping out Muslim terror plane hijacking disaster themes and ripping off investors of $200m, put a hit on Aaron Russo, used same actors.
well..i don't know for that video and some comments but.. google "The Y-Chromosomal Footprint Of Phoenicians Throughout The Mediterranean" ; some recent DNA maps..on phoenician recent renewd interest aparrently..indeed. And was about time, y.. *] ps; why not to at least check dna or c14 last studies btw..some are really sounding more like fanatics those days of 'rationalism' than something else..sources are so few, why not to take at least everything available.even if with a grain of salt.^y/
..and maybe not 'hidden' for the trivial reasons some would love to see under those keys shadows of history (!) ps; i personnally have NP if Carthago was not 'western' ^..one thing sure; they DID worship the satanical MOLOCH cult..inventors too, not chaldeans so?..as i said, fab possible consequences indeed..to follow yes..! */ and yes, dudes, "black arts" are not just a racial rent.."black" used in a very special meaning there..and practices too..fascinating new discoveries actually, y..*/
@sunset002007 "satanic MOLOCH" (BAAL) is jewish occult nonsense... Baal was old Venetic (Slavic) "god" Veles (Vaal) or Volos or Vol(Bull) and has nothing to do with slaughtering of children to this deity... Jews were those who slaughtered their children to their gods - like their Kali Ma & Asur (Asura, Osiris - Bakasura(Bacchus & later "YHWH").. Do not seek info about "Baal" on Jewpedia, because it it all occult hoax
Baalbek was temple of Baal (Veles in Yav - material) before became "Yaw" Yehova
@VendPrekmurec excellent..you sound to know very precise things on those very hidden things. where did you get your infos? I Know one site 'slightly' evocating those things..among others that very interesting Baalbek site indeed..and many many other similar possible old sites..& deities..only problem i have with that site is the very weird 'irish' connection theory (author is irish apparently..), giving a totally new kinda hallucinating version of history too..& total anti catholical views..
@sunset002007 site = one-evil{.}org ... it also has a theory on phoenicians & also a very specifical 'sea people' theory..that i never read before too (well..linked to the author origin it seems ^)..anyway, talking also about those old now a little 'forgotten' gods with a lot of 'details' too (baal / moloch' etc indeed.. btw, at carthago they did burnt children to the local version..'baal' so much loved you got the name in almost every eminent families names (Hanibal, etc).
well, according to one-evil..Ba'al Hammon=Moloch=Milqart - the demon god of death, supreme sacrifice, suffering and fire.Tanit, the Phoenician lunar goddess = Cybele. 'Carthage, one of the most famous cities of history and considered sacred to the descendents of the Phoenicians who became known (amongst other titles) as the Sadducees.'..from 'The exile of Ugarit High Priest-Kings'..Ugarit on the coast in northern Syria was ancient home of the High Priests and Kings that worshipped Ba'al Hammon
..'By 1400 BCE they had also become known as the Phoenicians -- a powerful family network of priests and traders controlling trade and commerce across the Mediterranean from as far as Britain, Spain to trading posts in Greece, Nth Africa and the Levant.' Egyptian attack near1323 BCE = carthago foundation (exile)..'Akhenaten chose not to execute King Ammurapi III and his Queen Tharyelli, nor the High Priests of Ba'al Hammon. Instead he forced them into exile..' (..)
.. ' The Phoenician legend then goes on to say that King Ammurapi III died during this (.)exile. When Queen Tharyelli finally found safe harbour at the site of Carthage (now Tunis), she cremated his remains as Moloch, swore an eternal oath that for eternity she would exact revenge on the descendents(.) of Akhenaten/people of Tyre&those that refused her and her King safe passage.souls as "spiritual slaves".
..'From then on, the Phoenicians worshipped the dead king (Moloch) as an equal as Ba'al Hammon, including the solemn curse to destroy their enemies by any means. changed the nature of Phoenician religion to a Cult of the Dead, in particular the importance of powerful demon spirits and the use of condemned', obviously all that modified, hidden, changed or caricatured by the Roman propaganda later, etc, etc..well 'one-evil{.}org' version anyway..but fascinating history version too somehow ^^
..btw..obviously all that "Akkadian Empire/Mari/royal-priest lines of the Amorites (Amurru)/ugarit/phoenicians/Carthago" possible connection is also totally denied by new crazies black afrocentrists racists that ALSO want (obviously) that carthago was a 'black civilization', so with no connections to phoenicians(etc), obviously (&as 'pure african', no possible children sacrifices (invention of white evils blabla etc later), etc. Well..hard to be sure what 'real history' is 'now'..many ideologs^
@sunset002007 in Zodiacal year of Telec (Taurus) - Ba'al (Vol - Veles - Va'al - Veel - Volos - Bull) "the devil took over Ba'al"- and Torahic history started... (old era was erased). Cult od the dead came from cult of Osiris (in India known as Bakasura (greek Bacchus), Asura (Ausar -Osiris, in Assyria known as Ashur). He was a cross breed (half human, half saurian DNA (Anunnak - Anak). (the "Circumcision came from "created ones"-osirianism ) and cult of Kali ma (cult of Sacrificing human lives)
@sunset002007 Ba'al was never worshiped by "jews" - everything that you will find about this "god" or "false god" is occult hoax and perversion (especially on Wikipedia)
Well.. the "Sea People" adventure (around 1200BC) is indeed one of the most puzzling piece of "UNKNOWN" (!..) history if there was one..^^ and so many possible consequences on so many thing 'legit' so far!..& phoenicians stellar 'enigma' too..and..till salomon temple/Sadduceans practices too...so many things to rediscover..so many fascinating things actually.. */
@VendPrekmurec well, thx for your version too, again..what is your source again though.as we can see, many different 'possible sources' those days, litterally flooding the history market..with a new one, black propaganda (opposed to 'white supposed one'..litterally trying to rewrite all old history too (old history that was certainly, already 'transformed' a little to hide some things too, for sure..but now, new highs it seems.some deliberately too, for political & fanatical reasons.sigh..+/
@sunset002007 and if you've found "strange irish site about strange history - of white race" - the author is more or less correct... (official history as we know it - from school is occult hoax; 1. time was re-written in A'Brahamic(Anti Brahmanic) UR - start of Torah AND offician hisTORy (cca 4000 Bc - in time of "Taurus" (Ba'al), 2. was rewritten by Levitic - Osiris's priests in Egypt (in cca 3500 BC ), 3. in Byzantine by Sanhendrin and 4. by Jesuits (in "dark ages") or by Scaliger's cabinet
@VendPrekmurec i find all you say very interesting but..you proceed by affirmations, never giving your sources or influences.that can be very significant for subjects like that..that sure is not one only 'truth' there..nor there is a 'official occult white lie' etc etc around there..we must be aware of the biases of every sources..even the 'new ones knowing all'..a lot of new 'scholars' reinventing history those days, we must be careful (black are great for that right now..own purposes)^
@VendPrekmurec yes, never be duped by the sources you can have - a few things i don't share with that author but..his version is fascinating too..at least as much if not more than other 'authors' presenting new histories those days(especially if you are curious you see he does another site pro islam lol..no comment^)..i found excellent things in his vision though..especially old places of evil=excellent^). what are your sources? do you have one site or reference to recommand me in that genre? )
@sunset002007 "what are your sources? " i can not give you this answer, only some - few things, events of the ancient (pre-Antediluvian - "zep tepi") history is known to me... other stuff is still hidden - by real Aryan priests and protected, for several reasons...
@VendPrekmurec ok, interesting..thx for the clarification. Yeah, i see.. another way to see ancient & pre history indeed..like Sitchin&Co would explain a lot of 'missing links' in the current (evolution) theories too, sure). To try to decypher old history through real remains & archeology is fascinating too. I noted you mentionned many indian-like possible sources too..i talked recently with an Indian that had himself very original views on old Babylon new possible origins etc. To be continued^
@sunset002007 1. Torah was written in 11. century AD, today still known as "Leningrad Codex"... there is much deeper perversion and hoax (and horrific truth) that you can even imagine...
@VendPrekmurec well, tell me, i am all ears *) (and your sources too, influences etc too..very often that explains the conclusions from the very start too.. :) ).
The Phoenician Canaanites . There nobility even came up into Europe through Venice who even had the same flag with the lion with wings. Their called the black nobility because of their semitic blood line
Does the human migration haplogroup map really show human mutation or is it a simple matter of past slave routes and destinations?
What I have discovered-If you couple the known history of human slavery and trafficking with these supposed genetic maps, it is clear that these geneticists are clear liars covering up human slavery. Primarily white slavery.
However this prove tha Carthage is a native civilization (the Massylian Kingdom)
the same case for Iberian malta civilizations
Lol ! the fucking retards of arabia beleive that Phoenicians are from arabia but in the reality they were from North africa and Iberia ; Lol = the sea people rules ...
But in 'FACT" there was no change in our Population, the westerners are the most homogeneous people out of everyone else! Of course there's mixture everywhere we look today but I'm not talking about today!
Because that want to be us, they are obsessed with our history and our people.
The Imazighen was a peace loving nations. A nation that was able to read and write. Herodotus wrote that the Amazigh people where the healths people he ever saw. We had all kind of medicines which didnt existed any where but only in North Africa
@samysamy25 JI= ARABIA J2=PHOENICIAN BOTH SHARE THE J NOTHING TO DO WITH AFRICA PHOENICAN ORIGINATED FROM YEMEN phoenician is not a race it was a name giving to people who sail the water like a verb the sailors=phoenian giving by the greeks but were arabs fact national geographic
Sea poeple are not the Aryans, the first nation which faught this pople where the Egytians. The sea pople where hired by the Libu imazighen, the libu Imazighen where fighting a war with the pharaohs.
The Sea People were from the Western Part of the Mediterranean, The Phoenicians only came to the Western Mediterranean after 800 bc, not like previously thought. Carthage, Cadiz, Tartessos, or any port in the Western Mediterranean were NOT built by the Phoenicians But instead were built by the locals!
Carthaginians are not genetically connected to the Phoenicians!
The West is where the dominance of the Mediterranean started!! It's a very funny situation, the Phoenicians invaded Malta and left their genetic footprint! but NO ports!! But where they supposedly built Ports they left NONE!! Give us back our History you ungrateful bastards!! The Western Mediterranean is OURS!! To the people who live there today!! To the people who been there since the beginning of time!!
@GundisalusMenendiz Well, there may be no traces left of ports built by the Phoenicians in Malta, yet the the very word Malta derives from the Phoenician word 'Malat' which means 'safe harbour'. Also, the Phoenicians, like any other civilization at those times, felt the need to pray; and what better place to worship a Phoenician deity than a Phoenician temple at 'Tas-Silg' located in Marsaxlokk, Malta. BTW, I doubt that they had an airstrip or an airport at those times.
Carthaginians are not genetically connected to the Phoenicians, it s true. Because carthagians where the libu Imazighen and the Numidian Imazighen. They founded a new civilization which is the Punic civilization. They spoke a language witch was a mix of Lieu language and the Canaan language.
I dont understand how it makes the Jewish Saga a lie... if they are all the same people, then thats what the "Jewish Saga" says it was only one people. Only in somewhat "modern" times what have historians/anthropologist made a distinction. What was the lie?
Matt24ishere 4 weeks ago
Phoenicians were originally white race, Ph = F or V = Veneti or Venedi or Vendels; ancestors of modern Slavs, Swedish, Germanic, Celtic, Baltic people (R1a, R1b haplogroups)
Ba'al = Vaal or Slavic god Veles or Vol (Bull)...
VendPrekmurec 2 months ago
@VendPrekmurec DON'T LIE PLEASE... phoenicians were semites
Askar9992 1 month ago
@Askar9992 Phoenician "runes" as Orthodox "history" know them today were based on Rasen (Etruscan), Vinca inscriptions, which go further to the past. Besides word "Phoenician" derived from word Veneti, similar colony on Paflagonia was Troja. They(Trojans - "of the 3nity") were by Homer himself also called Enedae, which is greek transliteration without letter V (Venedae). Baal = Slavic god Vaal or Vool or Veles, god of cattle, birth and larger astronomical cycle in Bull constellation
VendPrekmurec 1 month ago
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King Ramses ll had a vagina inscripted on the entrance gate of the phoenicians showing that they bowed down to the Egyptians and didn't want to fight but if u fought Egypt and lost then a man's testicles would be drawn to show that even though u lost u fought with courage...so Phoenicians were really bitches and their origin was black but became cowards when they mixed with the sea peoples
mobfiggak1 6 months ago
The Phoenicians were envy'd by everyone because they were the best civilisation in human history, theres high chances you haters still envy us today because of my ancestors achievements, and by the way, when Alexander was attacking the city of Tyre some Phoenicians fled to North Africa where the city of Carthage was established, but dont forget after the crusades war in Jerusalem ended, muslims went to Algeria and Morocco thats why you will also find arab DNA there
ouwetwarrior 7 months ago
@ouwetwarrior All researches done In Moocco and Algeria don't show any Arab DNa markers. Like this one of Dr. Spencer Wells wheretalks about that the Cartginians where abroiginal people of North Africa the Imazighen(Berbers). DNA evdince is UNDISPUTED prove. And the Ummaayds who wanted to conwuer North Africa where destroyid by The Imazighen in 740 and again in 741 in the Battle of Bagdoura. No Arabs in Morocco, Algeria, Tunes, Libya and Egypt.
zizouzenati 6 months ago
@zizouzenati I just realised that Arab DNA doesn't exist, arabism is a culture but in Lybia they have Phoencian Ancestry because the city of Carthage was established there.
ouwetwarrior 6 months ago
@ouwetwarrior Bro carthage was in tunisia... btw i like your name ouwet for life!!
ShittlesProduction 5 months ago
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Im sorry but I think its very ignorrant to the point of stupidity when this video has a scientist who studies DNA and you still make a reference to looking up "sea people" and that theyre actually Greek... You are obviously a man of science who studies DNA... NOT!!!
AbuSalim81 8 months ago 2
The J marker originated in Yemen and infact the biggest concentration of J Haplogroup is in Yemen 89%. All SEMITES originated from Yemeni Arab tribes.
AbuSalim81 8 months ago
So this guy is saying that white people are the curse of CAIN.
OromiaKush 9 months ago 2
@OromiaKush they are
egyptiansareblack26 9 months ago
Phoenicians were not semites, they were Greeks known as "sea peoples from the north" later known as Phoenicians and later known as Caananites ...and later holocausted by desert savages known as Jews, just google "sea peoples" ..
coolstuffplus 9 months ago
@coolstuffplus
Can you add some more info on Phoenicians on my next upload on 9/11 Film Synchronicity and Goldman Sach front aka Pheonician Ent 99-01 pumping out Muslim terror plane hijacking disaster themes and ripping off investors of $200m, put a hit on Aaron Russo, used same actors.
Charlie Sheen's Company is partners
euro944t 6 months ago
PHOENICIAN term comes from VENETIC (VENEDIC) - Baal was old god Vaal or Veles. Ph = F or V. Rasenic tribes in the south, before arrival of Semites...
VendPrekmurec 11 months ago
R1b comes from the Basques and its the most common gene of western europeans
JorgeLorenzoSpain100 1 year ago
well..i don't know for that video and some comments but.. google "The Y-Chromosomal Footprint Of Phoenicians Throughout The Mediterranean" ; some recent DNA maps..on phoenician recent renewd interest aparrently..indeed. And was about time, y.. *] ps; why not to at least check dna or c14 last studies btw..some are really sounding more like fanatics those days of 'rationalism' than something else..sources are so few, why not to take at least everything available.even if with a grain of salt.^y/
sunset002007 1 year ago
..and maybe not 'hidden' for the trivial reasons some would love to see under those keys shadows of history (!) ps; i personnally have NP if Carthago was not 'western' ^..one thing sure; they DID worship the satanical MOLOCH cult..inventors too, not chaldeans so?..as i said, fab possible consequences indeed..to follow yes..! */ and yes, dudes, "black arts" are not just a racial rent.."black" used in a very special meaning there..and practices too..fascinating new discoveries actually, y..*/
sunset002007 1 year ago
@sunset002007 "satanic MOLOCH" (BAAL) is jewish occult nonsense... Baal was old Venetic (Slavic) "god" Veles (Vaal) or Volos or Vol(Bull) and has nothing to do with slaughtering of children to this deity... Jews were those who slaughtered their children to their gods - like their Kali Ma & Asur (Asura, Osiris - Bakasura(Bacchus & later "YHWH").. Do not seek info about "Baal" on Jewpedia, because it it all occult hoax
Baalbek was temple of Baal (Veles in Yav - material) before became "Yaw" Yehova
VendPrekmurec 11 months ago
@VendPrekmurec excellent..you sound to know very precise things on those very hidden things. where did you get your infos? I Know one site 'slightly' evocating those things..among others that very interesting Baalbek site indeed..and many many other similar possible old sites..& deities..only problem i have with that site is the very weird 'irish' connection theory (author is irish apparently..), giving a totally new kinda hallucinating version of history too..& total anti catholical views..
sunset002007 11 months ago
@sunset002007 site = one-evil{.}org ... it also has a theory on phoenicians & also a very specifical 'sea people' theory..that i never read before too (well..linked to the author origin it seems ^)..anyway, talking also about those old now a little 'forgotten' gods with a lot of 'details' too (baal / moloch' etc indeed.. btw, at carthago they did burnt children to the local version..'baal' so much loved you got the name in almost every eminent families names (Hanibal, etc).
sunset002007 11 months ago
well, according to one-evil..Ba'al Hammon=Moloch=Milqart - the demon god of death, supreme sacrifice, suffering and fire.Tanit, the Phoenician lunar goddess = Cybele. 'Carthage, one of the most famous cities of history and considered sacred to the descendents of the Phoenicians who became known (amongst other titles) as the Sadducees.'..from 'The exile of Ugarit High Priest-Kings'..Ugarit on the coast in northern Syria was ancient home of the High Priests and Kings that worshipped Ba'al Hammon
sunset002007 11 months ago
..'By 1400 BCE they had also become known as the Phoenicians -- a powerful family network of priests and traders controlling trade and commerce across the Mediterranean from as far as Britain, Spain to trading posts in Greece, Nth Africa and the Levant.' Egyptian attack near1323 BCE = carthago foundation (exile)..'Akhenaten chose not to execute King Ammurapi III and his Queen Tharyelli, nor the High Priests of Ba'al Hammon. Instead he forced them into exile..' (..)
sunset002007 11 months ago
.. ' The Phoenician legend then goes on to say that King Ammurapi III died during this (.)exile. When Queen Tharyelli finally found safe harbour at the site of Carthage (now Tunis), she cremated his remains as Moloch, swore an eternal oath that for eternity she would exact revenge on the descendents(.) of Akhenaten/people of Tyre&those that refused her and her King safe passage.souls as "spiritual slaves".
sunset002007 11 months ago
..'From then on, the Phoenicians worshipped the dead king (Moloch) as an equal as Ba'al Hammon, including the solemn curse to destroy their enemies by any means. changed the nature of Phoenician religion to a Cult of the Dead, in particular the importance of powerful demon spirits and the use of condemned', obviously all that modified, hidden, changed or caricatured by the Roman propaganda later, etc, etc..well 'one-evil{.}org' version anyway..but fascinating history version too somehow ^^
sunset002007 11 months ago
..btw..obviously all that "Akkadian Empire/Mari/royal-priest lines of the Amorites (Amurru)/ugarit/phoenicians/Carthago" possible connection is also totally denied by new crazies black afrocentrists racists that ALSO want (obviously) that carthago was a 'black civilization', so with no connections to phoenicians(etc), obviously (&as 'pure african', no possible children sacrifices (invention of white evils blabla etc later), etc. Well..hard to be sure what 'real history' is 'now'..many ideologs^
sunset002007 11 months ago
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VendPrekmurec 11 months ago
@sunset002007 in Zodiacal year of Telec (Taurus) - Ba'al (Vol - Veles - Va'al - Veel - Volos - Bull) "the devil took over Ba'al"- and Torahic history started... (old era was erased). Cult od the dead came from cult of Osiris (in India known as Bakasura (greek Bacchus), Asura (Ausar -Osiris, in Assyria known as Ashur). He was a cross breed (half human, half saurian DNA (Anunnak - Anak). (the "Circumcision came from "created ones"-osirianism ) and cult of Kali ma (cult of Sacrificing human lives)
VendPrekmurec 11 months ago
@sunset002007 Ba'al was never worshiped by "jews" - everything that you will find about this "god" or "false god" is occult hoax and perversion (especially on Wikipedia)
VendPrekmurec 11 months ago
Well.. the "Sea People" adventure (around 1200BC) is indeed one of the most puzzling piece of "UNKNOWN" (!..) history if there was one..^^ and so many possible consequences on so many thing 'legit' so far!..& phoenicians stellar 'enigma' too..and..till salomon temple/Sadduceans practices too...so many things to rediscover..so many fascinating things actually.. */
sunset002007 1 year ago
@sunset002007 Sea people were old Veneti... that became jewish "Dn(Don river) tribes..." (Gog and Magog - modern Slavs)..
VendPrekmurec 11 months ago
@VendPrekmurec well, thx for your version too, again..what is your source again though.as we can see, many different 'possible sources' those days, litterally flooding the history market..with a new one, black propaganda (opposed to 'white supposed one'..litterally trying to rewrite all old history too (old history that was certainly, already 'transformed' a little to hide some things too, for sure..but now, new highs it seems.some deliberately too, for political & fanatical reasons.sigh..+/
sunset002007 11 months ago
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VendPrekmurec 11 months ago
@sunset002007 and if you've found "strange irish site about strange history - of white race" - the author is more or less correct... (official history as we know it - from school is occult hoax; 1. time was re-written in A'Brahamic(Anti Brahmanic) UR - start of Torah AND offician hisTORy (cca 4000 Bc - in time of "Taurus" (Ba'al), 2. was rewritten by Levitic - Osiris's priests in Egypt (in cca 3500 BC ), 3. in Byzantine by Sanhendrin and 4. by Jesuits (in "dark ages") or by Scaliger's cabinet
VendPrekmurec 11 months ago
@VendPrekmurec i find all you say very interesting but..you proceed by affirmations, never giving your sources or influences.that can be very significant for subjects like that..that sure is not one only 'truth' there..nor there is a 'official occult white lie' etc etc around there..we must be aware of the biases of every sources..even the 'new ones knowing all'..a lot of new 'scholars' reinventing history those days, we must be careful (black are great for that right now..own purposes)^
sunset002007 11 months ago
@VendPrekmurec yes, never be duped by the sources you can have - a few things i don't share with that author but..his version is fascinating too..at least as much if not more than other 'authors' presenting new histories those days(especially if you are curious you see he does another site pro islam lol..no comment^)..i found excellent things in his vision though..especially old places of evil=excellent^). what are your sources? do you have one site or reference to recommand me in that genre? )
sunset002007 11 months ago
@sunset002007 "what are your sources? " i can not give you this answer, only some - few things, events of the ancient (pre-Antediluvian - "zep tepi") history is known to me... other stuff is still hidden - by real Aryan priests and protected, for several reasons...
VendPrekmurec 11 months ago
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VendPrekmurec 11 months ago
@VendPrekmurec ok, interesting..thx for the clarification. Yeah, i see.. another way to see ancient & pre history indeed..like Sitchin&Co would explain a lot of 'missing links' in the current (evolution) theories too, sure). To try to decypher old history through real remains & archeology is fascinating too. I noted you mentionned many indian-like possible sources too..i talked recently with an Indian that had himself very original views on old Babylon new possible origins etc. To be continued^
sunset002007 10 months ago
@sunset002007 i will give you some info soon
VendPrekmurec 10 months ago
@sunset002007 1. Torah was written in 11. century AD, today still known as "Leningrad Codex"... there is much deeper perversion and hoax (and horrific truth) that you can even imagine...
VendPrekmurec 11 months ago
@VendPrekmurec well, tell me, i am all ears *) (and your sources too, influences etc too..very often that explains the conclusions from the very start too.. :) ).
sunset002007 11 months ago
@sunset002007 are not 40 000 years old... imagine that the human artifacts found bellow of 17 m coal layers are cca 200 000 years old...
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VendPrekmurec 11 months ago
The Phoenician Canaanites . There nobility even came up into Europe through Venice who even had the same flag with the lion with wings. Their called the black nobility because of their semitic blood line
Tuphut 1 year ago
What is the Haplogroup?
hstryshows 1 year ago
@hstryshows
its DNA
arabiannight100 1 year ago
duuuuuh, phoenic was a son of Amor, descendant from western Arabian peninsula
kingi97 1 year ago
@kingi97
TRUE
arabiannight100 1 year ago
Does the human migration haplogroup map really show human mutation or is it a simple matter of past slave routes and destinations?
What I have discovered-If you couple the known history of human slavery and trafficking with these supposed genetic maps, it is clear that these geneticists are clear liars covering up human slavery. Primarily white slavery.
123TheD 1 year ago
could it be possible that the phoenician saga was a made up one ?
amenfay 2 years ago 6
yes, offcourse it's created.
rifo96 2 years ago
However this prove tha Carthage is a native civilization (the Massylian Kingdom)
the same case for Iberian malta civilizations
Lol ! the fucking retards of arabia beleive that Phoenicians are from arabia but in the reality they were from North africa and Iberia ; Lol = the sea people rules ...
samysamy25 2 years ago 4
The first inhabitants of Sicily were Iberian! And I'm sure west coast of Italy too!
Now I wonder if the western Mediterranean, was all ran by ancient Amazigh and Iberians, because this is what dna and archeology is revealing to us!
And it also is suggesting to me, why the whole world wants to be a part of us!
They all wanna say they're the one's who colonized or conquered us!
GundisalusMenendiz 2 years ago
But in 'FACT" there was no change in our Population, the westerners are the most homogeneous people out of everyone else! Of course there's mixture everywhere we look today but I'm not talking about today!
GundisalusMenendiz 2 years ago
@GundisalusMenendiz Are you sicilian?
hstryshows 1 year ago
Because that want to be us, they are obsessed with our history and our people.
The Imazighen was a peace loving nations. A nation that was able to read and write. Herodotus wrote that the Amazigh people where the healths people he ever saw. We had all kind of medicines which didnt existed any where but only in North Africa
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rifo96 2 years ago 3
@samysamy25 JI= ARABIA J2=PHOENICIAN BOTH SHARE THE J NOTHING TO DO WITH AFRICA PHOENICAN ORIGINATED FROM YEMEN phoenician is not a race it was a name giving to people who sail the water like a verb the sailors=phoenian giving by the greeks but were arabs fact national geographic
rain4438 8 months ago
@samysamy25 Carthage was a negroid North African Civilization.
MrSivram28 5 months ago
@MrSivram28
"Carthage was a negroid North African Civilization."
not even in you dreams, shitty niggacentric
you afroz have a hard time imagining the best scenarios about the "native north africans were blacks"
i read plenty of them...
newnumide 3 months ago
Yeah ! it's prove it by genetics
on the contrary phoenicians are originally from the occidental parts of mediteranea
and they didn't have any genetic Impact on the Europeans and North africans
samysamy25 2 years ago 4
SEA People from Atlantis..Arians
maraeincognitum 2 years ago 4
Sea poeple are not the Aryans, the first nation which faught this pople where the Egytians. The sea pople where hired by the Libu imazighen, the libu Imazighen where fighting a war with the pharaohs.
rifo96 2 years ago
The Sea People were from the Western Part of the Mediterranean, The Phoenicians only came to the Western Mediterranean after 800 bc, not like previously thought. Carthage, Cadiz, Tartessos, or any port in the Western Mediterranean were NOT built by the Phoenicians But instead were built by the locals!
Carthaginians are not genetically connected to the Phoenicians!
GundisalusMenendiz 2 years ago
It goes back to my original theories.
The West is where the dominance of the Mediterranean started!! It's a very funny situation, the Phoenicians invaded Malta and left their genetic footprint! but NO ports!! But where they supposedly built Ports they left NONE!! Give us back our History you ungrateful bastards!! The Western Mediterranean is OURS!! To the people who live there today!! To the people who been there since the beginning of time!!
GundisalusMenendiz 2 years ago
((the Phoenicians invaded Malta and left their genetic footprint ! but NO ports!))
Lol ! that also prove that Maltese were not phoenicians, HAHAHAHA
samysamy25 2 years ago 3
did you get my message? by the way I am that old
Iknoweveryth1ng 2 years ago
Why not?
rifo96 2 years ago
@GundisalusMenendiz Well, there may be no traces left of ports built by the Phoenicians in Malta, yet the the very word Malta derives from the Phoenician word 'Malat' which means 'safe harbour'. Also, the Phoenicians, like any other civilization at those times, felt the need to pray; and what better place to worship a Phoenician deity than a Phoenician temple at 'Tas-Silg' located in Marsaxlokk, Malta. BTW, I doubt that they had an airstrip or an airport at those times.
jjbiano 5 months ago
@GundisalusMenendiz linguistic evedence destroys your 'theory'.
MrViTopol 5 months ago
Carthaginians are not genetically connected to the Phoenicians, it s true. Because carthagians where the libu Imazighen and the Numidian Imazighen. They founded a new civilization which is the Punic civilization. They spoke a language witch was a mix of Lieu language and the Canaan language.
rifo96 2 years ago 3
yeah of course Carthaginians are not genetically connected to the Phoenicians cause they were natives
BeuttiusMaximus 2 years ago 6
Natives = Berbers
stop not call "Natives"...they were Berbers. ..Berbers WERE these Ntives.
Elany13 2 years ago
@GundisalusMenendiz linguistic evidence destroys your theory...
MrViTopol 5 months ago