@thedevilsson2009 Lol oh yeah clearly they do, because when I walk around my barren house (that I'm locked up in 24/7) I smash my head off the ceiling... Oh no I don't because no ones forcing me to live in an environment that's too small for me. But that's what's happening to captive cetaceans... But they must live better than I? A Sovereign being that can come and go as I choose. Get your facts straight and stop being ignorant.
In the wild Killer Whales travel thousands of miles a day, with their family pod. Tilikum who is the largest Orca in captivity was not born in captivity. He was taken from the wild when he was 3 years old, taken away from the very strong family ties he wouldve had with his pod. Tilikum is now kept in solitary confinement, due to his 30 years in captivity, he is held responsible for the deaths of 2 trainers, and 1 park guest. His tank is not as deep as he is long. Seaworld is cruel. Boycott.
Your description is acurate. The whales are listless and inactive between shows due to bordom and the pools are very shallow (about 10-15 feet) for an animal that is 20 feet long its cruel
@hateseaworld Actually, training and play sessions occur in between shows and take up the majority of the whales' days, and the pools at SeaWorld are 32-40 feet deep. Captivity definetely isn't perfect, by any means, but please know your facts before posting :)
LOL I do know my facts thanks - The main show pools are 38/39 feet deep but the back pools where they spend most of their time are only 10-15 feet deep - look it up yourself.
In a 2006 OSHA report the seaworld trainers themsleves complained that meeting visitors and doing guest interactions hugely impact on their time they need to spend with the whales which leave them bored.
@hateseaworld If you go to the shamucam (located in the smallest pool, aside from the med pool, at SWC) the whales can easily spyhop and have room below, so that pool has to be around 30 feet deep (just by approximation, since Ulises, the biggest, is around 20 feet long and can spyhop easily). I am NOT asking you to change your opinion or say that you are wrong, I'm just speaking from what I see. If there's a credible site that gives the dimensions of all the pools, please send me the link :)
Main pool depth - 36ft. 2 x side pools depth - 15ft. shamu close up depth - 27ft. med pool depth- 8ft.
As I said they dont spend most of their time in the main pool as they wouldn't want them to get stuck on the slide out without a trainer there. Ulises spends most of the time in the close up tank alone (I know from watching the cam) as Corky doesn't like him. The med pool doesn't count. So that means that the other whales are stuck in the 15ft deep tanks for most of the time.
Wow, compared to the oceans these mammals are used to and have evolved in they are made to live in a small area, wih no POD to correspond too, no family unit.
A bit like putting us in a small room to be bought out to entertain other humans, as another human wants the money we can make for him. How many humans could endure that scenario???. None.
Wow, so like the ocean depths then?. 30 ft deep, gosh, how nice that must be when the Orca feels the itch to dive. I as a human has swam in deeper man made pools than you have given for an Orca.
I will leave you to think whether you think its right or wrong in your heart to keep these mammals as they are kept.
But at a guess I would say your pay cheque is in someway to do with this place.
@stiglaa No, it's not anything like the wild, and I agree: whatever they could do to make it more natural (I'm voting on, instead of putting money into huge, gas-guzzling roller coasters, they should expand the pools). And no, I do not work for SeaWorld.
@hateseaworld I keep the shamucam up on my computer all day, and I've seen all of the whales in there at pretty equal proportions. However, you are free to have your opinion as I am free to have mine, and all I ask is that you respect that.
All animals including captive animals have natural behaviour ... and sticking the in tanks that are far to small and then say they are fine is just stupid!.. that's why animals in captive have stereotypical behaviour. its just sad!
you wanna see how orcas truely behave, go into a boat, go out to the oceans await to see one ( where they obviously migrate through), the tub they are swimming in is pathetic and takes away their natural means of communication with their pods and with their mates. Sea worlds, circuses and zoo are a waste of money and anyone buying tickets to places like this are condoning the imprisonment of these species that are not put on the planet to entertain us.
@BardleyCfan they should not have been born in captivity in the first place. and just because they were born in captivity doesn't justify them being used to entertain people. Whales and dolphins are alot more intelligent than people give them credit for, give any creature (including humans) freedom after being in prison and they will adapt and survive.
@arwenpandora When you say they should no have been born in captivity in the first place then you really don't know that people can not just lug around a huge Killer Whale to the ocean while its pregnant and then after the child is born take it back. If the mother was raised in captivity it wouldn't survive in the ocean. It wouldn't know where to get its food. And they wouldn't know the exact day the baby will be born. So really there is no other choice.
@BardleyCfan why don't live in a tank or in a cage and see how it feels. It is the major problem of apathetic people like you who think that they have the right to force other species to entertain humans. You put any species back into their natural habitat away from humans and their natural instincts have been awakewned its survival. You take a human away from grocery stores and strip malls , put that person out in the wild and they can survive.
Oh I get it. because it isn't human it can't survive with human interference. Orcas, dolphins and all marine life have the basic instincts to survive, the ones in captivity are just like the ones in the wild, the strong and luckiest survive. its too bad humans haven't grasped the concept of how to survive without oppressing not just other humans but every other species on the planet as well.
I am with you, I find these places a disgrace, and a disgrace for money grabbing humans involved. I know they will shriek "But we have a breeding program or we are helping with research".
My answer is you cannot collect research from captive Orcas, Dolphins or Seals. As for a breeding program, their rate for breeding is abysmal, but their buying of stock is huge.
A 30 ft deep man made pool is seen as adequate for a mature Orca, I have swam in deeper pools.
@richorcaony Alright "MR. I HAVE TO BE THE LAST PERSON TO GET A WORD IN OR IT WILL DESTROY MY WORLD, AND EVERYONES OPINION IS WRONG BECAUSE NO ONE ELSES MATTERS!!" talking to you is like talking to brick wall with no cement. I can have my opinions right where I want them to be... moron
6 hours ago @richorcaonyt Alright "MR. I HAVE TO BE THE LAST PERSON TO GET A WORD IN OR IT WILL DESTROY MY WORLD, AND EVERYONES OPINION IS WRONG BECAUSE NO ONE ELSES MATTERS!!" talking to you is like talking to brick wall with no cement. I can have my opinions right where I want them to be... moron
@richorcaont Alright "MR. I HAVE TO BE THE LAST PERSON TO GET A WORD IN OR IT WILL DESTROY MY WORLD, AND EVERYONES OPINION IS WRONG BECAUSE NO ONE ELSES MATTERS!!" talking to you is like talking to brick wall with no cement. I can have my opinions right where I want them to be... moron
@richorcaonyt *sighs* like i said some people just dont get it. EVERYTHING is wrong with captivity. Say NO to captivity and YES to freedom. Partially your ignorance is because you do not know what goes on behind the scenes.. But oh well, believe what you want.....
Im going to say one more thing, PEOPLE, seriously Captvity is wrong either way. But there is always going to be those people who go to SeaWorld religiously and pay to see animals perform for their pleasure. Oh well, apparently captivity has blinded people with the saying "captivity is home for these animals." The stupidity and lies that emits from SeaWorld and other dolphin captivities make my head hurt so bad I want to scream.
@SamJStokes1 I think I'm going to work with them medically on the side or do something like that because trainers only make $14-16 an hour so I'll need a side job.
Also, this is not natural for a killer whale. In the wild they are constantly on the move, traveling up to speeds of 30 miles an hour, for up to 100 miles a day. This is all they can do in captivity, float around and be bored.
they are just fine they r just bein lazy like most ppl and animals people complain wen orcas do not enough shows and they complain wen thy are just relaxing wtf is wrong with ppl seaworld hav the best reputation to good care for their animals
@horseluver106 Not really, Seaworld's death charts are pretty high. Orcas, and all cetaceans are very active animals, constantly moving and swimming nearly 40 miles a day. Floating around, unless sleeping which is unusual during the day, usually implies that the animal is sick. But in captivity, "heathly" cetaceans spend a lot of their time floating, which some scientists think implies depression or bordom.
@124yuppers you are absolutely right. I hate Seaworld, these beautiful creatures deserve to be living free and roaming out in the ocean, hunting, playing, swimming out in the wild. Where they belong. Its so unfortunate that they have to be kept up just for the sake of human entertainment. It sucks.
these orcas are fine there just having a lazy day when i went the last time they were baiting birds with fish.I have video proof once i can download it
Keiko, too, was a very large Killer whale and once he was moved to a bigger tank and then to the ocean, he became very active and playful, spontaneously, not following signals from trainers. Lazieness is not a natural attribute for killer whales, in the wild they spent only about four hours a day resting.
@Seppeline5 Keiko is the orca that made me decide to be an orca trainer. I saw him first when I was about 3 or 4 and I have loved orcas since. One sad thing is that he died on my birthday :\
Keiko wouldnt even speak until he was moved to a much bigger more natural tank and once he was moved to the ocean, he started hunting, diving, exploring the sea, socializing with wild Orcas, and once again making his own decision about when to leave, when to come back, when to eat and when to breach. I see completely how that would make you fall in love with Orcas but not how that would make you want to train them since captivity nearly killed Keiko.
@SamJStokes1 What do you want to do with them? Like, become a vet for them, or train them, or what? I can't wait until I am able to see them everyday <3
@SamJStokes1 I think I'm going to work with them medically on the side or do something like that because trainers only make $14-16 an hour so I'll need a side job.
The big orca is Ulyses and he isn't normally very hyper any ways because of his size and the baby (can't rember name) was playing about on camera. SW do a pretty good job compared to places like Miami Sea Aquarium.
Just because he's bobbing lifelessly at the surface doesnt mean he's sad or depressed, believe it or not orcas actually sleep, they do so half-consciously, using only half of their brain in doing so. It's called "Logging" meaning he's just resting, basking in the sun =P
And on the dog topic, many people use the same training methods for their pets as you would an orca: Behavior= Fish, No Behavior= No fish, but you still feed them daily, for a dog: Behavior=treat, no behavior= no bone :)
@flargmuffin92 Sleeping or not. There is still no excuse for keeping them up in captivity just for the sake of human pleasure. Would you like the terms Behavior = Fish, No Behavior = No fish. or Human wise... Behavior = Steak, No behavior = no steak. (now im going to probably hear the term "Im a vegetarian.") No i dont think you would. You go to the store to buy food, you dont sit around hoping you do the right thing for it to be given to you.
Orcas are normally very playful and intellegent. The baby seems sad and slightly lethargic, which are not common traits. Look at keiko for instance, he knew what his natural ocean habitat was like before being netted and ripped from every part of his pod, to be put into showbiz, and when they tried to release him had gotten a nasty case of pneumonia in Iceland, after being moved from Oregon, and dieing...
There is a huge difference in the care of a dog compared to an Orca. Most commonly Orcas are placed in to dolphin tanks and forced to eat already killed fish and do tricks. Dogs are fine with a normal sized yard due to size capacity, an orca is several tons, and 15 feet is not enough. There is proof that captivity changes fin size, causes depression, and other health issues. And dogs are not harpooned!
Just because living in a tank would be hell for you, don't translate your feelings over to them. Captive killer whales that were born in captivity consider it their home.
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Slaves born on the plantation hated their existences but the plantation was still their "home." Just because you were born somewhere doesn't mean you like it.. think of dogs born on puppy mills or chickens born on factory farms.
lol. Your comparing captive orcas to slaves? First of all, slaves new what the real world looked like because they worked for it. In orcas case, the ocean. Slaves don't recieve hospital care, they get beaten, they are fed horrible food. They have no love in their life. They are kept in filthy areas. They are not protected from weather extremes. ETC. Talk about a big DUH.
Animals raised on factory farms are different too. They don't hate it, they hate the abuse and pain though. Animals born on those factories have no idea what the outside world is like, so they take what they get, BUT if they are feeling pain and suffering, then of course they hate it.
Uh, pretty sure that animals on factory farms would appreciate better treatment, just like the orcas.
I will never agree that keeping orcas and dolphins captive for entertainment purposes is okay. The *only* reason they should ever be in a tank is if they are being rehabilitated to be released back to the wild.
Animals on factory farms would of course love to be treated better, (not being physically abused by the workers.) But orcas are not physically abused..and most captive orcas, AND animals on factories do not know what they are missing. Unless that captive orca was born in the wild! And its nice to know you agree with what I said about the slaves since you never replied about that.
PS: There are other people out their that disagree with your anti-cap ways, so don't accuse me.
@RingneckDoveFan This is true. Its stressed out. But I can definitely tell you that they would be better off in the wild, than performing for pathetic humans like you. Say NO to captivity and YES to FREEDOM. By the way, they wouldnt be in captivity if it werent for stupid SeaWorld and their greediness.
@RingneckDoveFan If captivity is all a whale has known then yes they would consider it to be their home, however basic instinct is still there. For a type of animal that is used to freedom and travelling vast distances, the confines of a tank and the demand to perform regularly would still feel unnatural to them and cause stress as a result. The majority of captive orcas back fins tend to droop instead of standing upright like their wild counterparts is a visual sign of stress.
A flopped fin has nothing to do with stress. In the wild, water pressure keeps it up. Most captive cetaceans spend their time close to the surface so it falls over. And killer whales have practically no instints. They have to be taught how to do many things when they are young. And they are not forced to perform. If they don't want to, how do we force them? Why doesn't Corky or Lolita's fin flop? Lolita's life is 'CLEARLY' stressful. And I bet Corky is dying to see her family...
@RingneckDoveFan haha fair enough! just saying that all animals, whale, human, whatever, have natural instinct. it affects us whether its obvous or not :)
@RingneckDoveFan Doesn't mean that their "home" is beneficial to them. Indeed, rarely do captive born babies live past their teens. They're just not physiologically set up to be able to survive in captivity, wild caught or born captive.
@RingneckDoveFan unfortunately, the number of captive killer whales which are born in captivity which are able to survive for a matter of days is incredibly rare, breeding programs with killer whales are the least successful internationally, showing that if an animal cannot reproduce it's because there is obviously something wrong. Killer whales have wild instincts, living in a tank is not a home.
@queenofthevideos According to killer whale researcher Robin Baird, the rate of successful birth is actually higher in captivity than in the wild. However, I think you're right that wild behavior cannot be fully reached, and captivity can still get better, by letting families stay together at the very least. :)
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Ulises, the adult orca seen in this video, looks bored out of his mind. Poor guy. What a sad existence. I wonder if he ever thinks about his family in the wild.
Ironic that the loudspeaker is talking about whale conservation when Sea World has brutally captured dozens of whales and dolphins from the wild, leading to their endangerment in the USA
Boredom is no stranger to captives. No toy ball or ice cube can cure the emotions they must feel in these places. Sea World may be "one of the best marine parks" but to the whales, it's just another tank! Compared to the 100 miles a day they swim in the ocean, a 60 foot tank, 15 feet deep is nothing.
You just can't imagine what it must be like to be captive for the entire rest of your life. You're free & you'll always be free. Try to fathom what being imprisoned, while innocent, is like.
Just one or two generations of captive born orca cannot destroy their natural instincts. Baby orcas are not oblivious to that. Additionally, if they are raised by orcas from the wild, that will have an impact on them.
Plus, three orcas at Sea World San Diego - Corky 2, Kasatka, and Ulises - were actually caught from the wild so they do know what it is like out there. They were not rescued and should have never been removed from their pods in the first place.
By the way, dogs are captives too. I was thinking about this but, dogs live good lives, well most do, just like captive orcas, but they only get freedom and toys at certain times. All the other times they are stuck in the house. Get it?
Not really. Dogs see humans as their pack. All a dog really wants is to be close to his pack. If you have a dog and you have a garden, you will notice that even when the door is open, for most time the dog will choose to stay where the people are. If they are inside, he wants to be inside. Also most dogs are treated better than the Orcas at sea World. For one thing, their natural instincitve needs are met. Like hunting. Dogs chase balls and other dogs and children (when playing I mean)
When do Sea Worlds orcas ever get to chase anything? They are PREDATORS!!! Then again, letting them live out their true nature would probably make them too wild in order to walk around on their backs. And the tanks are too small for real chasing, too. On another note, a dog that is well exercised will spent about 15 hours a day sleeping. Orcas never sleep. They rest, yes, but they are still conscious and in the wild they only rest a few hours a day and they are still swimming then not floating.
Yes they are predators thats why they need a substiute for hunting such as chasing a ball and search for hidden treats :) and Im against keeping a dog if you cant take him for long walks every day and Im against keeping birds if you cant let them fly. Thats why Im against Orcas in captivity. They never get to leave their cages they never get to go for walks and they cannot stay with their packs, or pods. The trainers go home at night, family members are separated and Orcas moved between parks...
Some dogs are not well cared for but I really dont see how that would justify the suffering of another animal? And I dont see how the differences between Orcas and Dogs would be called opinion... But its hard to argue with someone who doesnt want to share his argument so I guess thats it...
orcas in captivity live better than yall do so quit runnin ur mouths about shit u dont understand!
thedevilsson2009 2 months ago
@thedevilsson2009 Lol oh yeah clearly they do, because when I walk around my barren house (that I'm locked up in 24/7) I smash my head off the ceiling... Oh no I don't because no ones forcing me to live in an environment that's too small for me. But that's what's happening to captive cetaceans... But they must live better than I? A Sovereign being that can come and go as I choose. Get your facts straight and stop being ignorant.
ferretsarehardasfckk 2 months ago
there might be another baby killer whale in the tank at sea world san diego and san antonio ! kasatka(SWC) and takara(SWT) might be pregnant again.
KingsProduction50 3 months ago
I can guess that this little one ended up in seaworld or some other place similar. To make up for all the dead mammals that occur in these places.
Poor little thing, dragged from its family to perform for you.
Think hard before you pay to go in these places.
Stiglaa x
stiglaa 3 months ago
Do look on a site "Freedom for Orcas". Its sounds of a baby Orca crying after being seperated from family.
If you cannot find it, go to my site as I have downloaded it.
Stiglaa x
stiglaa 3 months ago
can a baby orca attack a kid?
pubaroo 4 months ago
this is willy the whale
dpbo6 4 months ago
thumbs down!
pimpmix1 4 months ago
In the wild Killer Whales travel thousands of miles a day, with their family pod. Tilikum who is the largest Orca in captivity was not born in captivity. He was taken from the wild when he was 3 years old, taken away from the very strong family ties he wouldve had with his pod. Tilikum is now kept in solitary confinement, due to his 30 years in captivity, he is held responsible for the deaths of 2 trainers, and 1 park guest. His tank is not as deep as he is long. Seaworld is cruel. Boycott.
Pippaj 4 months ago
Your description is acurate. The whales are listless and inactive between shows due to bordom and the pools are very shallow (about 10-15 feet) for an animal that is 20 feet long its cruel
hateseaworld 4 months ago
@hateseaworld Actually, training and play sessions occur in between shows and take up the majority of the whales' days, and the pools at SeaWorld are 32-40 feet deep. Captivity definetely isn't perfect, by any means, but please know your facts before posting :)
KaliaRising 3 months ago
@KaliaRising
LOL I do know my facts thanks - The main show pools are 38/39 feet deep but the back pools where they spend most of their time are only 10-15 feet deep - look it up yourself.
In a 2006 OSHA report the seaworld trainers themsleves complained that meeting visitors and doing guest interactions hugely impact on their time they need to spend with the whales which leave them bored.
hateseaworld 3 months ago
@hateseaworld If you go to the shamucam (located in the smallest pool, aside from the med pool, at SWC) the whales can easily spyhop and have room below, so that pool has to be around 30 feet deep (just by approximation, since Ulises, the biggest, is around 20 feet long and can spyhop easily). I am NOT asking you to change your opinion or say that you are wrong, I'm just speaking from what I see. If there's a credible site that gives the dimensions of all the pools, please send me the link :)
KaliaRising 3 months ago
@KaliaRising
Main pool depth - 36ft. 2 x side pools depth - 15ft. shamu close up depth - 27ft. med pool depth- 8ft.
As I said they dont spend most of their time in the main pool as they wouldn't want them to get stuck on the slide out without a trainer there. Ulises spends most of the time in the close up tank alone (I know from watching the cam) as Corky doesn't like him. The med pool doesn't count. So that means that the other whales are stuck in the 15ft deep tanks for most of the time.
hateseaworld 3 months ago
@hateseaworld then they should put barriers to block the whales from going up there
KingsProduction50 3 months ago
@hateseaworld
Wow, compared to the oceans these mammals are used to and have evolved in they are made to live in a small area, wih no POD to correspond too, no family unit.
A bit like putting us in a small room to be bought out to entertain other humans, as another human wants the money we can make for him. How many humans could endure that scenario???. None.
Stiglaa x
stiglaa 3 months ago
@stiglaa
Well said.
hateseaworld 3 months ago
@hateseaworld
Thank you. Compared to the depths these fine mammals can dive too, these pools of death are a disgrace.
Its all for the Dollar, and it makes me feel sick.
I have filmed them and swam with them in the wild, and this Seaworld is just a money grabbing operation, as all their ilk are also.
And do not, anyone, tell me of the research programme or Breeding programme that everyone chirps out to defend this disgrace.
Stiglaa x
stiglaa 3 months ago
@stiglaa
As you can tell from my own channel and Facebook group, I agree wholeheartedly.
hateseaworld 3 months ago
@KaliaRising
Wow, so like the ocean depths then?. 30 ft deep, gosh, how nice that must be when the Orca feels the itch to dive. I as a human has swam in deeper man made pools than you have given for an Orca.
I will leave you to think whether you think its right or wrong in your heart to keep these mammals as they are kept.
But at a guess I would say your pay cheque is in someway to do with this place.
Stiglaa x
stiglaa 3 months ago
@stiglaa No, it's not anything like the wild, and I agree: whatever they could do to make it more natural (I'm voting on, instead of putting money into huge, gas-guzzling roller coasters, they should expand the pools). And no, I do not work for SeaWorld.
@hateseaworld I keep the shamucam up on my computer all day, and I've seen all of the whales in there at pretty equal proportions. However, you are free to have your opinion as I am free to have mine, and all I ask is that you respect that.
KaliaRising 3 months ago
All animals including captive animals have natural behaviour ... and sticking the in tanks that are far to small and then say they are fine is just stupid!.. that's why animals in captive have stereotypical behaviour. its just sad!
MegaSuperchipmunk 6 months ago
you wanna see how orcas truely behave, go into a boat, go out to the oceans await to see one ( where they obviously migrate through), the tub they are swimming in is pathetic and takes away their natural means of communication with their pods and with their mates. Sea worlds, circuses and zoo are a waste of money and anyone buying tickets to places like this are condoning the imprisonment of these species that are not put on the planet to entertain us.
arwenpandora 8 months ago 8
@arwenpandora Lol ok and people like you still do not get it!! The ones who are born in captivity WOULD NOT SURVIVE!!!
BardleyCfan 8 months ago
@BardleyCfan they should not have been born in captivity in the first place. and just because they were born in captivity doesn't justify them being used to entertain people. Whales and dolphins are alot more intelligent than people give them credit for, give any creature (including humans) freedom after being in prison and they will adapt and survive.
arwenpandora 8 months ago
@arwenpandora When you say they should no have been born in captivity in the first place then you really don't know that people can not just lug around a huge Killer Whale to the ocean while its pregnant and then after the child is born take it back. If the mother was raised in captivity it wouldn't survive in the ocean. It wouldn't know where to get its food. And they wouldn't know the exact day the baby will be born. So really there is no other choice.
christineyoyop 7 months ago
@BardleyCfan why don't live in a tank or in a cage and see how it feels. It is the major problem of apathetic people like you who think that they have the right to force other species to entertain humans. You put any species back into their natural habitat away from humans and their natural instincts have been awakewned its survival. You take a human away from grocery stores and strip malls , put that person out in the wild and they can survive.
arwenpandora 6 months ago
Oh I get it. because it isn't human it can't survive with human interference. Orcas, dolphins and all marine life have the basic instincts to survive, the ones in captivity are just like the ones in the wild, the strong and luckiest survive. its too bad humans haven't grasped the concept of how to survive without oppressing not just other humans but every other species on the planet as well.
arwenpandora 6 months ago
@arwenpandora
I am with you, I find these places a disgrace, and a disgrace for money grabbing humans involved. I know they will shriek "But we have a breeding program or we are helping with research".
My answer is you cannot collect research from captive Orcas, Dolphins or Seals. As for a breeding program, their rate for breeding is abysmal, but their buying of stock is huge.
A 30 ft deep man made pool is seen as adequate for a mature Orca, I have swam in deeper pools.
Stiglaa x
stiglaa 3 months ago
@arwenpandora Not everybody has the money to do that.
pytko3 2 months ago
Ulises and Nakai :)
FutureOrkidTrainer 9 months ago
They r not only for entertainment they r there for research and to teach the public
ChristieGirl151 1 year ago
I can see maybe continuing only captive killer whales at parks, because they consider it home. but capturing is horrible
Monsterdavid22x 1 year ago
@Monsterdavid22x
and thats why they no longer capture killer whales in the United States.
lopec23 9 months ago
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@richorcaony Alright "MR. I HAVE TO BE THE LAST PERSON TO GET A WORD IN OR IT WILL DESTROY MY WORLD, AND EVERYONES OPINION IS WRONG BECAUSE NO ONE ELSES MATTERS!!" talking to you is like talking to brick wall with no cement. I can have my opinions right where I want them to be... moron
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@richorcaont Alright "MR. I HAVE TO BE THE LAST PERSON TO GET A WORD IN OR IT WILL DESTROY MY WORLD, AND EVERYONES OPINION IS WRONG BECAUSE NO ONE ELSES MATTERS!!" talking to you is like talking to brick wall with no cement. I can have my opinions right where I want them to be... moron
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realsaraSKELLINGTON 1 year ago
@richorcaonyt *sighs* like i said some people just dont get it. EVERYTHING is wrong with captivity. Say NO to captivity and YES to freedom. Partially your ignorance is because you do not know what goes on behind the scenes.. But oh well, believe what you want.....
realsaraSKELLINGTON 1 year ago
Im going to say one more thing, PEOPLE, seriously Captvity is wrong either way. But there is always going to be those people who go to SeaWorld religiously and pay to see animals perform for their pleasure. Oh well, apparently captivity has blinded people with the saying "captivity is home for these animals." The stupidity and lies that emits from SeaWorld and other dolphin captivities make my head hurt so bad I want to scream.
realsaraSKELLINGTON 1 year ago
Nope, It's saying,"will you guys play with me? Mom's being lazy again."
pytko3 1 year ago
that is a good tank size ..... FOR A PLANKTON!!!
orcaworca 1 year ago
they are more like saying : help me ...
Gatewhale 1 year ago
@Gatewhale i know, poor thing its stressed out. both of them are.
realsaraSKELLINGTON 1 year ago
I love sea world
dragonlova102 1 year ago
poor little baby her real home is the ocean
Orcaplanet 1 year ago
@Orcaplanet No to her that is her real home
dragonlova102 1 year ago
@dragonlova102 unfortunately.
realsaraSKELLINGTON 1 year ago
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@SamJStokes1 I think I'm going to work with them medically on the side or do something like that because trainers only make $14-16 an hour so I'll need a side job.
xxMilkyWayxx1 1 year ago
This place sucks!!!
cpcastar 1 year ago
@cpcastar amen. no truer words have been said. These animals deserve freedom.
realsaraSKELLINGTON 1 year ago
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Captive breeding, as conducted by aquariums, is contrary to the World Conservation
Union (IUCN) Policy Statement that: "Reintroduction to the wild should be the
ultimate objective of all captive breeding programmes" (IUCN, 1991). Reintroduction
has never been a component of cetacean captive breeding programmes. Breeding
programmes may provide new captive animals, but their value to conservation is
highly questionable. Is the aim only to conserve a species in captivity? -Jerye Mooney
metridium 1 year ago
Could I borrow this footage?
Also, this is not natural for a killer whale. In the wild they are constantly on the move, traveling up to speeds of 30 miles an hour, for up to 100 miles a day. This is all they can do in captivity, float around and be bored.
FreedomForOrcas 2 years ago
they are just fine they r just bein lazy like most ppl and animals people complain wen orcas do not enough shows and they complain wen thy are just relaxing wtf is wrong with ppl seaworld hav the best reputation to good care for their animals
horseluver106 2 years ago
@horseluver106 Not really, Seaworld's death charts are pretty high. Orcas, and all cetaceans are very active animals, constantly moving and swimming nearly 40 miles a day. Floating around, unless sleeping which is unusual during the day, usually implies that the animal is sick. But in captivity, "heathly" cetaceans spend a lot of their time floating, which some scientists think implies depression or bordom.
124yuppers 2 years ago
@124yuppers you are absolutely right. I hate Seaworld, these beautiful creatures deserve to be living free and roaming out in the ocean, hunting, playing, swimming out in the wild. Where they belong. Its so unfortunate that they have to be kept up just for the sake of human entertainment. It sucks.
realsaraSKELLINGTON 1 year ago
aww the baby is adorable!
Denabobeana 2 years ago 3
It's Ulises and Kalia
04principe 2 years ago 7
these orcas are fine there just having a lazy day when i went the last time they were baiting birds with fish.I have video proof once i can download it
MajesticWolfRunner 2 years ago 2
STUPID!!! Just stupid, ok!
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xSoppinsx 2 years ago
Keiko, too, was a very large Killer whale and once he was moved to a bigger tank and then to the ocean, he became very active and playful, spontaneously, not following signals from trainers. Lazieness is not a natural attribute for killer whales, in the wild they spent only about four hours a day resting.
Seppeline5 2 years ago
@Seppeline5 Keiko is the orca that made me decide to be an orca trainer. I saw him first when I was about 3 or 4 and I have loved orcas since. One sad thing is that he died on my birthday :\
xxMilkyWayxx1 2 years ago
Keiko wouldnt even speak until he was moved to a much bigger more natural tank and once he was moved to the ocean, he started hunting, diving, exploring the sea, socializing with wild Orcas, and once again making his own decision about when to leave, when to come back, when to eat and when to breach. I see completely how that would make you fall in love with Orcas but not how that would make you want to train them since captivity nearly killed Keiko.
Seppeline5 2 years ago
@xxMilkyWayxx1 thats really sad! Keiko was my inspiration to go to school and get my PhD in Marine Biology.. my main study are Orcas
SamJStokes1 1 year ago
@SamJStokes1 What do you want to do with them? Like, become a vet for them, or train them, or what? I can't wait until I am able to see them everyday <3
xxMilkyWayxx1 1 year ago
@xxMilkyWayxx1 I want to work with them from a medical stand point.. training them would be amazing but Im more interested in the medical aspect
SamJStokes1 1 year ago
@SamJStokes1 I think I'm going to work with them medically on the side or do something like that because trainers only make $14-16 an hour so I'll need a side job.
xxMilkyWayxx1 1 year ago
The big orca is Ulyses and he isn't normally very hyper any ways because of his size and the baby (can't rember name) was playing about on camera. SW do a pretty good job compared to places like Miami Sea Aquarium.
Max1mum0R1d3 2 years ago 34
@Max1mum0R1d3 exactly! and at erinlyndsay this tank is probably about 30+ feet deep! thats not very shallow at all
orcalvr1216 1 year ago
Just because he's bobbing lifelessly at the surface doesnt mean he's sad or depressed, believe it or not orcas actually sleep, they do so half-consciously, using only half of their brain in doing so. It's called "Logging" meaning he's just resting, basking in the sun =P
And on the dog topic, many people use the same training methods for their pets as you would an orca: Behavior= Fish, No Behavior= No fish, but you still feed them daily, for a dog: Behavior=treat, no behavior= no bone :)
flargmuffin92 2 years ago
@flargmuffin92 Sleeping or not. There is still no excuse for keeping them up in captivity just for the sake of human pleasure. Would you like the terms Behavior = Fish, No Behavior = No fish. or Human wise... Behavior = Steak, No behavior = no steak. (now im going to probably hear the term "Im a vegetarian.") No i dont think you would. You go to the store to buy food, you dont sit around hoping you do the right thing for it to be given to you.
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realsaraSKELLINGTON 1 year ago
Orcas are normally very playful and intellegent. The baby seems sad and slightly lethargic, which are not common traits. Look at keiko for instance, he knew what his natural ocean habitat was like before being netted and ripped from every part of his pod, to be put into showbiz, and when they tried to release him had gotten a nasty case of pneumonia in Iceland, after being moved from Oregon, and dieing...
greenfaery25 2 years ago
There is a huge difference in the care of a dog compared to an Orca. Most commonly Orcas are placed in to dolphin tanks and forced to eat already killed fish and do tricks. Dogs are fine with a normal sized yard due to size capacity, an orca is several tons, and 15 feet is not enough. There is proof that captivity changes fin size, causes depression, and other health issues. And dogs are not harpooned!
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RingneckDoveFan 2 years ago
Last time I checked killer whales can't walk
oceanlover022 2 years ago
Ulises (the "adult") is resting and the tank is about 40-60 ft. deep.
OrcaLover1389 2 years ago
How do you know that tank is that depth?
Because it's not. It's 15 feet deep. ;)
RingneckDoveFan 2 years ago
They're not suffering. They are perfectly fine. (In my opinion)
OrcaLover1389 2 years ago
Just because living in a tank would be hell for you, don't translate your feelings over to them. Captive killer whales that were born in captivity consider it their home.
RingneckDoveFan 2 years ago 43
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Slaves born on the plantation hated their existences but the plantation was still their "home." Just because you were born somewhere doesn't mean you like it.. think of dogs born on puppy mills or chickens born on factory farms.
peepchick101 2 years ago
lol. Your comparing captive orcas to slaves? First of all, slaves new what the real world looked like because they worked for it. In orcas case, the ocean. Slaves don't recieve hospital care, they get beaten, they are fed horrible food. They have no love in their life. They are kept in filthy areas. They are not protected from weather extremes. ETC. Talk about a big DUH.
RingneckDoveFan 2 years ago 3
Animals raised on factory farms are different too. They don't hate it, they hate the abuse and pain though. Animals born on those factories have no idea what the outside world is like, so they take what they get, BUT if they are feeling pain and suffering, then of course they hate it.
RingneckDoveFan 2 years ago 4
Uh, pretty sure that animals on factory farms would appreciate better treatment, just like the orcas.
I will never agree that keeping orcas and dolphins captive for entertainment purposes is okay. The *only* reason they should ever be in a tank is if they are being rehabilitated to be released back to the wild.
PS: Thanks for "thumbs-downing" all my comments..
peepchick101 2 years ago
Animals on factory farms would of course love to be treated better, (not being physically abused by the workers.) But orcas are not physically abused..and most captive orcas, AND animals on factories do not know what they are missing. Unless that captive orca was born in the wild! And its nice to know you agree with what I said about the slaves since you never replied about that.
PS: There are other people out their that disagree with your anti-cap ways, so don't accuse me.
RingneckDoveFan 2 years ago 3
@RingneckDoveFan This is true. Its stressed out. But I can definitely tell you that they would be better off in the wild, than performing for pathetic humans like you. Say NO to captivity and YES to FREEDOM. By the way, they wouldnt be in captivity if it werent for stupid SeaWorld and their greediness.
realsaraSKELLINGTON 1 year ago
@RingneckDoveFan If captivity is all a whale has known then yes they would consider it to be their home, however basic instinct is still there. For a type of animal that is used to freedom and travelling vast distances, the confines of a tank and the demand to perform regularly would still feel unnatural to them and cause stress as a result. The majority of captive orcas back fins tend to droop instead of standing upright like their wild counterparts is a visual sign of stress.
Pembo362 9 months ago
A flopped fin has nothing to do with stress. In the wild, water pressure keeps it up. Most captive cetaceans spend their time close to the surface so it falls over. And killer whales have practically no instints. They have to be taught how to do many things when they are young. And they are not forced to perform. If they don't want to, how do we force them? Why doesn't Corky or Lolita's fin flop? Lolita's life is 'CLEARLY' stressful. And I bet Corky is dying to see her family...
RingneckDoveFan 9 months ago
@Pembo362
Well I just learned something new! If my ear is bent over, it means I'm stressed out.
Thanks.
RingneckDoveFan 9 months ago
@RingneckDoveFan haha fair enough! just saying that all animals, whale, human, whatever, have natural instinct. it affects us whether its obvous or not :)
Pembo362 8 months ago
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Glad you understand.
Yes, we all have instincts, but killer whales, and people, have very, very few.
RingneckDoveFan 8 months ago
@RingneckDoveFan Doesn't mean that their "home" is beneficial to them. Indeed, rarely do captive born babies live past their teens. They're just not physiologically set up to be able to survive in captivity, wild caught or born captive.
S0XF0X 5 months ago
@RingneckDoveFan unfortunately, the number of captive killer whales which are born in captivity which are able to survive for a matter of days is incredibly rare, breeding programs with killer whales are the least successful internationally, showing that if an animal cannot reproduce it's because there is obviously something wrong. Killer whales have wild instincts, living in a tank is not a home.
queenofthevideos 5 months ago
@queenofthevideos
There is nothing wrong with captive breeding of cetaceans. Most make it to their first birthday, unlike the wild where there is a 50% chance.
RingneckDoveFan 5 months ago
@queenofthevideos According to killer whale researcher Robin Baird, the rate of successful birth is actually higher in captivity than in the wild. However, I think you're right that wild behavior cannot be fully reached, and captivity can still get better, by letting families stay together at the very least. :)
KaliaRising 3 months ago
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Ulises, the adult orca seen in this video, looks bored out of his mind. Poor guy. What a sad existence. I wonder if he ever thinks about his family in the wild.
Ironic that the loudspeaker is talking about whale conservation when Sea World has brutally captured dozens of whales and dolphins from the wild, leading to their endangerment in the USA
peepchick101 2 years ago
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RingneckDoveFan 2 years ago
Boredom is no stranger to captives. No toy ball or ice cube can cure the emotions they must feel in these places. Sea World may be "one of the best marine parks" but to the whales, it's just another tank! Compared to the 100 miles a day they swim in the ocean, a 60 foot tank, 15 feet deep is nothing.
You just can't imagine what it must be like to be captive for the entire rest of your life. You're free & you'll always be free. Try to fathom what being imprisoned, while innocent, is like.
peepchick101 2 years ago
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RingneckDoveFan 2 years ago
Just one or two generations of captive born orca cannot destroy their natural instincts. Baby orcas are not oblivious to that. Additionally, if they are raised by orcas from the wild, that will have an impact on them.
Plus, three orcas at Sea World San Diego - Corky 2, Kasatka, and Ulises - were actually caught from the wild so they do know what it is like out there. They were not rescued and should have never been removed from their pods in the first place.
peepchick101 2 years ago
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RingneckDoveFan 2 years ago
By the way, dogs are captives too. I was thinking about this but, dogs live good lives, well most do, just like captive orcas, but they only get freedom and toys at certain times. All the other times they are stuck in the house. Get it?
RingneckDoveFan 2 years ago 3
Not really. Dogs see humans as their pack. All a dog really wants is to be close to his pack. If you have a dog and you have a garden, you will notice that even when the door is open, for most time the dog will choose to stay where the people are. If they are inside, he wants to be inside. Also most dogs are treated better than the Orcas at sea World. For one thing, their natural instincitve needs are met. Like hunting. Dogs chase balls and other dogs and children (when playing I mean)
Seppeline5 2 years ago
When do Sea Worlds orcas ever get to chase anything? They are PREDATORS!!! Then again, letting them live out their true nature would probably make them too wild in order to walk around on their backs. And the tanks are too small for real chasing, too. On another note, a dog that is well exercised will spent about 15 hours a day sleeping. Orcas never sleep. They rest, yes, but they are still conscious and in the wild they only rest a few hours a day and they are still swimming then not floating.
Seppeline5 2 years ago
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RingneckDoveFan 2 years ago
Yes they are predators thats why they need a substiute for hunting such as chasing a ball and search for hidden treats :) and Im against keeping a dog if you cant take him for long walks every day and Im against keeping birds if you cant let them fly. Thats why Im against Orcas in captivity. They never get to leave their cages they never get to go for walks and they cannot stay with their packs, or pods. The trainers go home at night, family members are separated and Orcas moved between parks...
Seppeline5 2 years ago
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RingneckDoveFan 2 years ago
Some dogs are not well cared for but I really dont see how that would justify the suffering of another animal? And I dont see how the differences between Orcas and Dogs would be called opinion... But its hard to argue with someone who doesnt want to share his argument so I guess thats it...
Seppeline5 2 years ago