I think gay people should hide in these times where the West is in a transition to an Islamic society. The last thing they would want is to be in some sort of record registered as gay when Islam takes over. I think the real priority should be given to curing the spreading Islamic cancer in order to create a sustainable foundation for something like gay marriage.
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Its a step in the right direction. The states of Illinois and Hawaii in the US recently adopted civil unions. Civil Unions give exactly the same rights within the state as marriage.
@Spillers72 since I made this video, civil partnerships have become legal. The new government has promised to review the constitutional issues of same sex marriage, and given the popular support for it, I reckon we've a good chance of having full same sex marriage within a few years. Fingers crossed anyway :)
I think it's stupid that gay couples aren't allowed to adopt chrildren. I think that gay's should have the same rights as normal people do. Your right that is discrimination against everyone. there is a show you should watch it's called as the world turns and They have a gay couple on there their names are luke and noah and watch Luke's story because his family wasn't very accepting of him at first I think that is the way most families are at first.
@TvBox333 Check the UK and see how many rights we have secured since the Civil Partnership Act came into play back in 2005 including the right to adopt, change of birth certificates and now new legislation for approval in religious buildings.
Its a game of stepping stones, little at a time and in 5 years the UK has achieved so much
"The Republic guarantees religious and civil liberty, equal rights and equal opportunities to all its citizens, and declares its resolve to pursue the happiness and prosperity of the whole nation and of all its parts, cherishing all the children of the nation equally, and oblivious of the differences carefully fostered by an alien government, which have divided a minority from the majority in the past."
Its time to be heard. Thanks for your awareness raising. My partner and I are having a civil Partnership in UK and the lack of recognition in my homeland feeds into some of the homophobic responses we get. I'll see what I can do to rais awareness too.....
In their defence, they don't confine gay people to this. They often don't stand up for all Irish people like they're supposed to. Eg. CIA planes refuelling in Shannon while rendering people to Guantanamo. Ps, Hooray for HD Mush!
I think that your argument here is great because of how well-structured, thought-out and REASONED it is. Especially on the adoption/guardianship issue, which from what you say, doesn't even seem to have been debated. I think Ireland should be progressive on gay marriage, (instead of yet again being 25 years behind everybody else) if for no other reason than it is because what the Irish people want on this issue. You told me once that 65% of Irish people would not
oppose gay marriage? (please correct) Or, the politicians should at the very least, (instead of making the assumption that it's what Irish people don't want, based on their own PERSONAL oppinion) ASK them.
Indeed. But they're too afraid - they don't want to have to campaign on the issue. They don't want to get off their butts and stand up for the minorities of this country like they're supposed to.
Well I would totally agree with you and your points, I would fear there would never be an Irish legislator who would be "brave" enough to take that step. But who know perhaps some day, sooner than later. Civil marriage for all those whom want it.
Well the more we can get this issue out there into the public the better. And getting positive reactions such as I've seen here all helps dispell the notions of a country not ready for it so thanks for your comments too. I suppose at the end of the day, a new set of elected representatives wouldnt go astray, so long as they had the balls to stand up and do what's right.
I'm not one for commenting on videos as a whole, but felt compelled to say something in this case, Firstly I can't believe the attitude of the "burn in hell" comment. Personally I am for gay marriage / civil partnership or what ever people would like to call it, as long as both heterosexual & homosexual are treated as equals in every possible way.
And as you said no one has the right to adopt but everyone should have the right to be considered. Just to point out as to why I would say civil partnership or gay marriage is as you know the word "marriage" has deep connections with Catholicism ( and sure there is no such thing as a gay Catholic) in this country and people are just too narrow minded to separate the two, its one of those sad things about Ireland. I hope things work out as you would like. Stay proud.
I wouldn't worry about the "burn in hell" comment - it was a joke. I know the guy. Hence my reply with the ";)" - as for the word marriage, I don't accept that catholics or any religion have sole ownership of the term. there is civil marriage in this country that has nothing to do with the churches and that's what I'm looking for. The whole point is that its the civil institution of marriage that should be opened up for all. The churches can keep religious marriages to themselves if they like :)
Calling it a civil partnership, does indeed make it sound like a contract. It's amazing to see how allowing us equal rights scares people. We don't mesh in their lives, so why mess with ours.
I guess I'm quite happy living in Luxembourg cause they're pretty liberal here, I think us gays can get married here (proper ceremony and all), but I'm not positive. But the problem is, I don't want to live here when I'm older. :(
The thing is I think most people here in Ireland probably wouldn't give a sh*t either but the government here are too scared to give us the equality we deserve. A recent survey showed support of 66% in favour of full civil marriage for gays in Ireland. And yet the government here remain committed to the tepid vapidity that is civil partnership! It boils my goat.
I wish all countries all over the world were as advanced as two of the neighboring countries around mine... in Belgium and the Netherlands gay people are allowed to marry AND adopt
Great video, and beautiful picture at the start :)
And, I would say "I hope things are good with you two." and "I hope you have a life-time long relationship filled with love and joy"... but I'm pretty damn sure you're both happy and well, and always will be happy together! :)
I agree. Either a marriage is a civil contract and should be dealt with by contract law - in the same way for everyone - or it has some additional standing and benefits (and responsibilities), which should not be denied to any one on the basis of sexual orientation, sex, colour or creed.
The thing that really annoys me about this issue is that the majority of people stopping gay marriage are straight. Gay marriage doesn't affect straight people in any way so I don't see why we should have a problem with it.
It is interesting how governments do not seem to realize how many more legal problems they create for themselves by trying to put people into new categories. Here in Canada the same groups are still fighting over every word of new legislation. Having Gay Marriage has made our society a little more open - It will take a few more generations before the haters see that our Country is not falling apart because of this one issue. Stay Strong:)
Thanks Man. And you should be proud - Canada is a model for the rest of the world on this issue. Your country shows how it should be done! I'm sure there are opponents to it there too, but at least it got introduced. We can take strength from that and bring that to our fight :)
thanks - it's an issue that I want to raise the profile of, hence the video. It really is quite unfortunate that our government doesn't have the balls to stand up for equality.
I think gay people should hide in these times where the West is in a transition to an Islamic society. The last thing they would want is to be in some sort of record registered as gay when Islam takes over. I think the real priority should be given to curing the spreading Islamic cancer in order to create a sustainable foundation for something like gay marriage.
Hanzo33333 4 months ago
Ireland should not recognize abnormal relationships. Gay people need help.
UnknownOconnor 4 months ago
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@UnknownOconnor who's that clip cloppiing under the bridge?
mushacles 4 months ago
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Its a step in the right direction. The states of Illinois and Hawaii in the US recently adopted civil unions. Civil Unions give exactly the same rights within the state as marriage.
Spillers72 10 months ago
@Spillers72 since I made this video, civil partnerships have become legal. The new government has promised to review the constitutional issues of same sex marriage, and given the popular support for it, I reckon we've a good chance of having full same sex marriage within a few years. Fingers crossed anyway :)
mushacles 10 months ago
I think it's stupid that gay couples aren't allowed to adopt chrildren. I think that gay's should have the same rights as normal people do. Your right that is discrimination against everyone. there is a show you should watch it's called as the world turns and They have a gay couple on there their names are luke and noah and watch Luke's story because his family wasn't very accepting of him at first I think that is the way most families are at first.
TvBox333 1 year ago
@TvBox333 cheers!
mushacles 1 year ago
@TvBox333 Check the UK and see how many rights we have secured since the Civil Partnership Act came into play back in 2005 including the right to adopt, change of birth certificates and now new legislation for approval in religious buildings.
Its a game of stepping stones, little at a time and in 5 years the UK has achieved so much
PinkApproved 7 months ago
"The Republic guarantees religious and civil liberty, equal rights and equal opportunities to all its citizens, and declares its resolve to pursue the happiness and prosperity of the whole nation and of all its parts, cherishing all the children of the nation equally, and oblivious of the differences carefully fostered by an alien government, which have divided a minority from the majority in the past."
duirling 1 year ago
@duirling great quote, cheers!
mushacles 1 year ago
Its time to be heard. Thanks for your awareness raising. My partner and I are having a civil Partnership in UK and the lack of recognition in my homeland feeds into some of the homophobic responses we get. I'll see what I can do to rais awareness too.....
integralcoach 2 years ago
The more awareness the better of course. And best of luck to you and your partner!
mushacles 2 years ago
In their defence, they don't confine gay people to this. They often don't stand up for all Irish people like they're supposed to. Eg. CIA planes refuelling in Shannon while rendering people to Guantanamo. Ps, Hooray for HD Mush!
agcurbaisti 2 years ago
I think that your argument here is great because of how well-structured, thought-out and REASONED it is. Especially on the adoption/guardianship issue, which from what you say, doesn't even seem to have been debated. I think Ireland should be progressive on gay marriage, (instead of yet again being 25 years behind everybody else) if for no other reason than it is because what the Irish people want on this issue. You told me once that 65% of Irish people would not
agcurbaisti 2 years ago
oppose gay marriage? (please correct) Or, the politicians should at the very least, (instead of making the assumption that it's what Irish people don't want, based on their own PERSONAL oppinion) ASK them.
agcurbaisti 2 years ago
Indeed. But they're too afraid - they don't want to have to campaign on the issue. They don't want to get off their butts and stand up for the minorities of this country like they're supposed to.
mushacles 2 years ago
Left 4 dead's a good game
darkirishdragon 2 years ago
Well spotted. Anything that involves shooting zombies gets my seal of approval :)
mushacles 2 years ago
Well I would totally agree with you and your points, I would fear there would never be an Irish legislator who would be "brave" enough to take that step. But who know perhaps some day, sooner than later. Civil marriage for all those whom want it.
adrianshanahan 2 years ago
Well the more we can get this issue out there into the public the better. And getting positive reactions such as I've seen here all helps dispell the notions of a country not ready for it so thanks for your comments too. I suppose at the end of the day, a new set of elected representatives wouldnt go astray, so long as they had the balls to stand up and do what's right.
mushacles 2 years ago
I'm not one for commenting on videos as a whole, but felt compelled to say something in this case, Firstly I can't believe the attitude of the "burn in hell" comment. Personally I am for gay marriage / civil partnership or what ever people would like to call it, as long as both heterosexual & homosexual are treated as equals in every possible way.
adrianshanahan 2 years ago
And as you said no one has the right to adopt but everyone should have the right to be considered. Just to point out as to why I would say civil partnership or gay marriage is as you know the word "marriage" has deep connections with Catholicism ( and sure there is no such thing as a gay Catholic) in this country and people are just too narrow minded to separate the two, its one of those sad things about Ireland. I hope things work out as you would like. Stay proud.
adrianshanahan 2 years ago
I wouldn't worry about the "burn in hell" comment - it was a joke. I know the guy. Hence my reply with the ";)" - as for the word marriage, I don't accept that catholics or any religion have sole ownership of the term. there is civil marriage in this country that has nothing to do with the churches and that's what I'm looking for. The whole point is that its the civil institution of marriage that should be opened up for all. The churches can keep religious marriages to themselves if they like :)
mushacles 2 years ago
You'll burn in hell for your sinful ways. *shakes fist*
niallcusack 2 years ago
Oh undoubtedly. It's good to know that you'll probably be there with me. I've seen how you look at inanimate objects like tables and footstools ;)
mushacles 2 years ago
Two words for you Mush...sock puppets
niallcusack 2 years ago
i agree with you
clashloverben 2 years ago
thanks ben. it's great to be getting such positivity from everyone.
mushacles 2 years ago
Calling it a civil partnership, does indeed make it sound like a contract. It's amazing to see how allowing us equal rights scares people. We don't mesh in their lives, so why mess with ours.
I guess I'm quite happy living in Luxembourg cause they're pretty liberal here, I think us gays can get married here (proper ceremony and all), but I'm not positive. But the problem is, I don't want to live here when I'm older. :(
hemeanseverything2me 2 years ago
The thing is I think most people here in Ireland probably wouldn't give a sh*t either but the government here are too scared to give us the equality we deserve. A recent survey showed support of 66% in favour of full civil marriage for gays in Ireland. And yet the government here remain committed to the tepid vapidity that is civil partnership! It boils my goat.
mushacles 2 years ago
I wish all countries all over the world were as advanced as two of the neighboring countries around mine... in Belgium and the Netherlands gay people are allowed to marry AND adopt
Great video, and beautiful picture at the start :)
Tom
hemeanseverything2me 2 years ago
Thanks Tom. And that pic is one of my favourites - it includes someone very special to me :)
mushacles 2 years ago
So I've heard! :D
And, I would say "I hope things are good with you two." and "I hope you have a life-time long relationship filled with love and joy"... but I'm pretty damn sure you're both happy and well, and always will be happy together! :)
hemeanseverything2me 2 years ago
thanks :)
mushacles 2 years ago
I agree. Either a marriage is a civil contract and should be dealt with by contract law - in the same way for everyone - or it has some additional standing and benefits (and responsibilities), which should not be denied to any one on the basis of sexual orientation, sex, colour or creed.
Well said, Mush.
Myles
deetwelve 2 years ago
Thanks Myles :)
mushacles 2 years ago
The thing that really annoys me about this issue is that the majority of people stopping gay marriage are straight. Gay marriage doesn't affect straight people in any way so I don't see why we should have a problem with it.
sppppooooon 2 years ago 5
Indeedily - its so crazy that people think that me marrying another man is all of a sudden going to implode there straight marriage
mushacles 2 years ago
It is interesting how governments do not seem to realize how many more legal problems they create for themselves by trying to put people into new categories. Here in Canada the same groups are still fighting over every word of new legislation. Having Gay Marriage has made our society a little more open - It will take a few more generations before the haters see that our Country is not falling apart because of this one issue. Stay Strong:)
ekimno 2 years ago
Thanks Man. And you should be proud - Canada is a model for the rest of the world on this issue. Your country shows how it should be done! I'm sure there are opponents to it there too, but at least it got introduced. We can take strength from that and bring that to our fight :)
mushacles 2 years ago
I completely agree. The name 'civil partnership' alone sounds patronising and clinical and just re-enforces the stigmas. Great post as usual =)
wizzardsmith30 2 years ago
thanks - it's an issue that I want to raise the profile of, hence the video. It really is quite unfortunate that our government doesn't have the balls to stand up for equality.
mushacles 2 years ago