Quick Fact: Baier Distorts CBO Report To Claim Premiums "Will Actually Go Up" Under Senate Bill

[saxon6732]

Actually its true. The senate bill will raise insurance premiums 13-15%. If you watched the health care summit as I did. You would have seen that a staffer brought in a note to Obama stating this. Later Obama acknowledged this but his defense was that your health insurance would be better. Really?

[mrthebillman]

@saxon6732 A staffer brought in a note? Did you get to read this note? How much FOX News do you watch?

[calandur]

Yet again liberals fail to grasp the difference between cost and price. If the government subsidizes the price of premiums to lower prices they are not lowering costs. The real costs are still being payed by someone (i.e. taxpayers). It's like if the government burns tons of cornfields. When the price of corn subsequently doubles from $5 to $10 an ear they give the corn vendors $6 an ear and tell everyone "look we lowered the price of corn to $4 with our grand field-burning plan!!" Pure idiocy.

[Mournbalde]

Hmmm where do you think those subsidies will be comming from congress's own pockets? Hell no! They are going to come from the TAX payers. What that means is that every US citizen will be paying higher taxes, and thats what this whole scam is about. This is nothing more than a TAX scam.

Open your eyes.

[fearnoevilexceptbush]

@Mournbalde: so? These taxes will not benefit Congress, but - as nearly all taxes - the American citizen. Difference is that the private sector's primary goal is profit - hence the endless delays in payments, exclusions when you make a claim, ridiculous insurancecosts - and the government's goal is to just cover the cost. And don't give me that 'private sector is efficient, government is not'. Just take a look at what happened in the financial and manufacturing sector these past couple of years.

[Mournbalde]

Name one thing the government runs or has taken over that does not need mass amount of tax dollar bailout money to keep from going bankrupt.

[fearnoevilexceptbush]

@Mournbalde 2: All of a sudden, Father State - the taxpayer - was good enough to bail all these efficient companies and their ridiculously overpaid managers out of the mess they had created themselves. And who do you think pays for all these greedy corporate executives, eh? You, when you buy any service or product. In the end, we all pay, but the State - collective of us all - has no profitgoal.

Btw: private monopolies are damned expensive on any consumer!

[Mournbalde]

In the private sector if you dont like the service you can always switch companys, but with BIG Government you your shit out of luck.

[Mournbalde]

Are the people on the left so filled with hate that they need to make up demons to go after ie Big oil, Big insurance, Big doctors, Big, Big, Big. Do you realize that the only thing getting "BIGGER" is our Government and its spending. Your hate is being used to destroy America. Open your eyes and see how much good is in America and what it has overcome so that you and I can have this debate.

[fearnoevilexceptbush]

@Mournbalde: could you have a discussion without nonsensical remarks? 'People on the left filled with hate', 'your hate is being used to destroy America': you don't know the first thing about me, yet you already labelled me with this nonsense.

In the private sector, you can only take your business elsewhere if there is an elsewhere. With your Big Firms, there is by definition no meaningful competition (hence anti-trust laws) and are therefor damned expensive on the consumer.

[fearnoevilexceptbush]

@Mournbalde 2: A perfect example where the private sector is failing, is the health insurance. Modern and rich country as the USA, yet tens of millions of people without insurance. The costs are unsustainable - the farmaceuticals made sure it stayed that way: bought and paid for both parties - and lots of people get kicked out as soon as they make a claim under the pretext of some nonsensical pre-condition. The government shouldn't provide private sector services and goods, but lay down...

[fearnoevilexceptbush]

@Mournbalde 3: the laws, for instance: any insurer must accept all applicants regardless of their condition (level playing field for all insurers) and at least this, that and the other thing must be covered. I don't see anything wrong with that. Not having this has enormous costs to USA as well, both financially and in direct deaths (runs in the tens of thousands).

[dewberdoo]

He's sooo fake. Even his wig looks odd. Bald and in denial.

[mancrushonhanksnow]

*yawns* Facts are so fucking boring. It's why I watch Fox instead. Misinformation is more exciting

[ClassicFIHD]

Then you should probably have an orgasm watching CNN or MSNBC.

[theliberalparis]

prove it, I have 100 vids to back up my claim. do you have one ?

[ClassicFIHD]

Prove what? That you had an orgasm watching CNN?

Or do you mean CNN lies?: watch?v=60aIaNZA0h8

Or MSNBC LIES?: watch?v=UYKQJ4-N7LI

[theliberalparis]

Type in "fox new bias" 100 videos ONE HUNDRED !!!! besides I'm not to much a neocon republitard fan, I don't want Wall Street dictating my life, but that's what you want no ?

[ClassicFIHD]

Type in "MSNBC news bias" or "CNN News Bias" you get HUNDRES MORE, what's your point? I don't want government dictating my life either, do you?

[lordnate2000]

You actually believe the government isn't run by lobbyists? You believe that they are honest and don't take bribes? What do you think campaign finance is all about? Congress is ran by Wall Street. Here are your options. You can either vote to have the right to spend your money the way you want to or you can vote to have the government spend your money the way lobbyists instruct them.

[Guernicaman]

Well, he did use the phrase, "depending on how you read it", which in other words means, "reading it while wearing GOP-issued glasses".

[wayne388]

Couldn't have said it better myself, Guernicaman.

[heymakers]

You, my friend, are spot on ; D

[kaysandesses]

The GOP ranting about rate increases ignores the fact that premiums increase every year. Who here hasn't seen a premium increase? Mine has increased nearly two-fold in the last five years and I've never had a major claim even though I've been with this carrier for nearly 20 years.

I'll accept a premium increase with the elimination of pre-existing condition denial and recission. I don't want my coverage cancelled for forgetting some minor procedure from 25 years ago.

[Bear5177]

@kaysandesses

Agreed.

[Silberdachs]

And it doesn't pretend to be anything else.

Unlike Fox.

[kaysandesses]

Indeed, Mediamatters mission statement plainly states that the organization is devoted to exposing conservative corruption and mistruths in main stream media.

[kurtkobain1234]

That's why they don't claim to be news, unlike your beloved fox.

[TheXroadr]

By continuing to say Fox and News together you only encourage them. Say either just Fox or the yellow journal report.

[liquidhead]

depending on how you read it?

like if your a lobbyist or something?

[FlowerClown]

Surprise it FOX

[Richardgwm]

Nobody watches Fox for the truth.

[nidodson]

Except the idiots that actually think it is all true, which are typically far right Christians.

[kaysandesses]

Righto Ricahrdgwm, they watch Fox to simply reinforce their fear and hate based distortions of reality.

[Craigipedia]

HAHA... oh Fixed Noise Channel, how I love thee

[joespeed87]

When will Fox News start telling the truth? Every time that they distort a fact,the real answer comes out. In other words,cut the bullshit,Fox News and be honest with the people that you"report" to:the Republican Party.

[Zlibservacratican]

Is Bret Baier one of the anchors Fox does not consider news? (even though throughout all the shows the "FoxNews" logo is spinnin)

[johncrwarner]

It seems very appropriate that the "Fox News" logo is spinning as it is appears to be a spin channel not a news channel.

[Zlibservacratican]

RNC, err i mean FNC is now FSC, lol

[voyeurdug]

For folks who can't get coverage now (and so, pay out-of-pocket, or don't pay), yes, premiums would go up... from zer0 to $omething. Duh.

[PartVIII]

i like these FLASE videos.