Never get into a knife fight, never. Well, a knife is probably your best "home defense" outside of the US, because of guns laws and such. If I had to kill someone with a knife, it would obviously be a surprise attack from behind or from the side. Disarming an attacker with a knife is actually the better option, since a fast kick to the chest/groin would most likely injure him enough to stop the attack. Then you'd move in for the swing or stab or just simply kick the knife from his hand.
@cmf71 Yes of course, a gun is the prefered tool against a knife. The question is would you have time to draw and fire at the normal distances knife attacks occur. Google the words Tueller Drill for more on this.
@cmf71 You bet. If you are lucky enough to see the knife and draw your sidearm you had better do it quick and without second thought. Inside of 7 meters knife in the hand trumps gun in the holster ("21 foot rule").
What if you are left handed and opponent is right handed (or vice versa), how do you go for his weak side since the knives arr in the same place (while facing each other)
@Lar0sa1 When fighting right vs. left, not only do you have to reverse the footwork angles, but you often have to switch some of the strikes with thrusts and vice-versa.
@battousai555 Definitely. Most soldiers I've taught prefer a lighter knife. Speed is king with bladed combat. The Lg Heavy Bowie is better suited to take camping if you don't want to bring a hatchet.
@TuhonBillMcg Thanks for the input! Would you mind answering a couple more questions? Please excuse me if they are silly/stupid, as I am just getting into blade combat.
Do you think that, assuming equal skill, a person with a Bowie (let's say 9") has the advantage over someone using something a bit shorter with less belly (like a 7" ka-bar usmc or a 6.5" Mark II)?
And are bigger people more suited to bigger knives? Or can a lanky guy like me be just as good with proper technique?
@TuhonBillMcg Thanks for the input! Would you mind answering a couple more questions? Please excuse me if they are silly/stupid, as I am just getting into blade combat.
Do you think that, assuming equal skill level, a person using a Bowie (let's say 9") has the advantage over someone using something a little shorter with less belly (like a 7 or 8" ka-bar or a 6.5" Mark II)?
And are bigger people better suited to bigger knives? Or can a lanky guy like me be just as good with proper technique?
@battousai555 I've seen some very small men swing a heavy blade very quickly-it all depends on the amount of time training with the blade. Let's assume that you can legally carry either a kabar or a large bowie in your area. I would go with the one that you will find useful for the 99.99% of the time that you won't be using it to defend yourself.
I have an 8'' Lapplander-knife, and I feel a little more safer after watching this, because now I actually got a combo to use if I need to defend myself with it! Much better to have a combo with a goal than, as you said, charging in without actually knowing what to do. Thanks a lot!
@Ruben1994OL You shouldn't rely on one technique you've watched on YouTube to defend yourself with, (especially this one, which is the most advanced of the techniques I show on my bowie DVD). You really should get some instruction under a qualified instructor. Go to my pekiti website and look for an instructor in your area.
@TuhonBillMcg I live in a country where knifefighting is not all that popular, as well as I live in a middlesized town where everybody do handball or soccer, so I don't got much of a choice mate :P
Besides, I meant that it's better to have seen a combo to copy instead of mindlessly charging in.
@TuhonBillMcg Do you have any "general purpose" move that work against whatever, like if they have a knife, club, axe, sword or whatever in either hand and hold?
I'd value that for how often you fight in the dark (home invasion) or where lots of concealed weapons are drawn (defend store in a riot).
I'd rather have one-move I can get really good at than half-a-dozen I'm so-so at.
@Treblaine Yes, it's called a shotgun :-) Seriously, there is no one technique that will work against all attacks. The best you can do is to work on one or two principles that cover most of the common types of attack. See my video Bowie Knife Drill for a sample of this.
@Ruben1994OL dude, just like the guy said, watching a youtube video won't help that much, most because knowing combos without knowing the basics is like writing chinese words without knowing what they mean just because you saw them somewhere and thought they were cool. If you learn the basics, you might even forget how to do the combo(s) but you can do other things sometimes even more useful for that especific situation, got it?
Hi Bill. I joined your Pekiti-Tirsia mail order group back in the 80s when you sent out a newsletter and T-shirts - good to see you're still practicing. I'm now 60 and am also still training. One problem with this video - you are allowing yourself a multitude of moves and steps and your 'opponent' is only getting one step and two moves. I trained Bowie and Big Knife fighting for a short time with Dwight McLemore. Fun stuff
@Badge01Kenobi The goal of your training should be to be able to fire two or more moves for every one of your opponent. It's no so much speed as efficiency.
@IAmNotEmoLOL Enter "Barong knife" in Google images and you'll see many different blades. The Barong Tagalog shirt started in Luzon during the Spanish occupation of the Philippines. The Barong knife originated in the south of the Philippines. That may be why two very different items share the same name. Check out the website "Traditional Filipino Weapons" to see some Barong blades.
The barong Tagalog is the formal transparent shirt which translates to "Tagalog dress". This barong knife came from the Muslim Filipinos of the south. Perhaps it was just coincidence that the two were named with the same name given the different dialects. But from what I've found through research, only the leaders from the south wielded these knives. so maybe the Barong knife was a dress knife.
For the sake of comparison can you tell me the blade length the knife you use in this vid, and if this is a home made 'trainer' of wether anywhere sells such wooden bowie training beasts?
@TheMadness111 My trainer is just a piece of oak board that I shaped on a belt sander in my garage. The blade is about 12". I don't know anyone who makes these commercially, but anyone with minimum woodworking tools and experience should be able to make you one.You can make one with hand tools, it just takes longer. My student is using a Cold Steel Trailmaster bowie in its sheath, just for the video. Normally, when I teach this class we just use light weight pvc pipe for trainers.
@jamiirali1 I have a small kris dagger that's pretty close to an Arkansas Toothpick. Check out some of the blades on the "Traditional Filipino Weapons" website.
@xI3elialx please teach me a"flawless" technique, news flash there is no such thing as a flawless technique every move whether its boxing,jiu jitsu, or knife fighting everything has a counter and to that a counter another counter. so save your wise shit for somewhere else.
Hmm I'm looking for a custom knife maker. I want a good blade for fighting. One with a blade catcher, about 9in, not REAL beefy. More of an extended KA-BAR with a little More heft. I'll die trying to find the perfect knife. I'm hoping to become a bladesmith after I complete college.
@Wabaanimkii Ah, the quest for the perfect knife. That has led many a young man down a never ending road.
You might want to try some factory knives first. You can get several different models for the price of one custom and help define what you really need. Cold Steel, Ontario, Ka-Bar, Condor, all make good blades. I would start with tool steel as this is more forgiving than stainless in hard use and easier for a factory to get the temper right. Ka-Bar has a new model that might interest you.
@TuhonBillMcg Thanks for the help. I'll certainly look up Big Brother. I have a shit blade with a half heart on the blade. It looks like either a rope cutter or a blade snapper.
@Wabaanimkii Check out the Ka-Bar review at this year's Shot Show on the Equip2Endure channel.
There's a larger version of the Ka-Bar combat knife that might interest you. It's called the Big Brother. You'll find it for sale on Tomar's Ka-Bar website.
@Wabaanimkii A very good place to meet custom makers and learn how knives are made is the New England Bladesmith's annual seminar in Ashokan, NY. It falls on the 3rd weekend in Sept. All the knife makers there are very knowledgeable and extremely giving of their time and experience. I regularly lecture there and I highly recommend it. Google the words ashokanknifeseminar to find their website.
@TuhonBillMcg I have always been a big fan of Jerry Hossom's knives. He has a couple models that are designed in the spirit of a fighting bowie, and while his blades are large, they are deeply hollow ground to allow for a lightweight blade that can be maneuvered much more easily than something like a ka-bar.
@HydeMyJekyll I just checked out some of Hossom's knives online and I have to say he has some of the most ergonomic handles in the business. I especially like his one piece micarta grips with the built in guard and a pommel that's large enough to keep your hand from slipping off the knife. While I'm not a big fan of hollow ground blades, I do like his blade shapes. Overall some very well thought out designs.
@megalodon30 Only half of US household own a firearm and the percentage of people who carry regularly in public is far less. The point of this training though is that if you carry a large blade (as many of my martial arts students do when camping, hiking, etc), you should know how to defend yourself with it.
@MrJamfoof Why is a knife better? Granted, you are much much more likely to have a knife than a gun (if anything) in an unexpected situation, so knowing how to use a knife well is certainly more useful than knowing how to use a gun well (VS a basic competence. Basic competence with a knife will probably get you killed where basic competence with a gun makes you a reasonable punter). But a gun would be the better pick in the vast majority of situations... But only if you had it... Disagree ?
@Pwn00b no i dont disagree a gun is definitely more powerful but lets say we all the sudden went into civil war you only have so many bullets so i guess you can say knowing both is even better lol
@MrJamfoof Haha, cant argue with both! Where I live, because of the strict laws, the carry weapon of choice (By those people who feel the need) is electrical pliers i.e. long nose pliers... Anything that is a 'knife' will get you thrown in a deep hole. Amusingly, purpose built weapons like a foot long trench spike will get you in less trouble than a one-hand-open-able pocket knife. So, anyone teaching "long nose pliers" combat here?
@TuhonBillMcg That's quite interesting. To be honest I wasn't expecting a serious response but now that you have pointed me in that direction I will follow it up. Just shows that there can be a good answer to any question if you ask the right person. Thanks Tuhon.
Im gonna have a rock or what ever object in the other hand if I can to throw at the other guy than im gonna do a jailyard rush using it like a machete..i dunno about these techs ...looks good at the gym tho
Speaking from extensive experience in close quarters hard contact scenarios, I'll reach for my 9" blade before I fish my 9mm out. A bowie will do more damage than any handgun if you know how to use it bro.
I know of a local officer who was sliced to ribbons by a 12 inch machete weilded by a perp who drew at 20 feet away from him, ran up on him and forced him into early retirement before the officer could find a stance to center his Glock. He never got a shot off. Lost an arm & eye
Good idea, I only ever seem to see the overhead angle in boxing matches at the point of KO and it tends to be a rare thing. I've never seen much about Bowie fighting techniques anywhere. I've always been sort of vaguely interested in sword fighting but oddly never considered knife fighting. Aside from the damage factor and having to take range into account, what are the main differences between knife fighting with a regular size knife and the big one?
@Dave54600 The longer the lever, the better the leverage. You can't take an arm off with one swing with a pocket knife, while you can with a heavy 9 inch bowie. Clothing that will stop a pocket knife slash will not impede a hack from a sharp large blade. I'm becoming more impressed by the versatility of short machetes for this reason. I have a 12" Cold Steel Barong machete that is light and quick in the hand, but will still cut through a tree branch as thick as my thumb in one cut.
@TuhonBillMcg The 9" to 18" blade range (a common blade length among indigenous peoples with access to steel tools) makes a good multipurpose outdoor/survival/defensive tool because of the versatility of blades of this size.
I now sell the 12" Cold Steel Barong machete on my website for this reason. It comes sharpened with a convex edge and packaged with a DVD that demonstrates techniques like the one shown above. Go to the PEKITI website for more information.
Convex is a good edge for heavy-duty choppers. Most fighting knives have chisel edge. And don't think you will carry Barong on the streets. A way higher chance you'll meet a police than a burglar. And go to jail, cause it's definetely a cold weapon. Too large and too heavy. Try to prove it is a utility knife.
@saintfather I taught this technique as part of an outdoor survival skills seminar. The blade class had two sections, one for small knives and one for large knives in the 9 to 12 inch blade range. The idea is that you should be able to defend yourself with whatever tool you have. A 9" bowie or a 12" machete is not an uncommon item to bring camping and would be legal in most states for that use. See my Three Blade Survival System video for an explanation of the uses of various sized blades.
@TuhonBillMcg Have you consider just going for a wakisashi? This probably has all you look for in a large fighting knife. Well technically it a short sword, but since you are moving to machete anyway... Wakisashi will have thicker, heaver blade then a machete.
I was also very impress with the coldsteel sanmai Khukhri.
Nice technique and explanation. Not sure about the distraction fakey playing part though, that's asking for trouble. Seems like a bit of an assumption to me, that the guy is going to attack with the knife I mean. On camera he appears to be within range to kick you pretty good.
@Dave54600 Of course the better you "sell" the fake the better it works. And having a large, sharp knife whip towards his eyes does tend to get his attention. Using a large knife or machete also helps equalizes the reach difference between arms and legs. He can try to kick, but he runs into a real danger of getting impaled. I should try shooting this technique from overhead, so people can see the range accurately. The side angle camera shot is what makes out of range movie fights look in range.
I have a question. I am a fellow large blade practicioner (Bowie, Pinuti, Machete). Why do you carry so many items on carabiners on your pants? I am not attemtping to be funny, ridicule, or in any way imply disrespect. I am honestly curious. They would irritate me for days if I was drilling. Oh, and sidestepping properly does take you out of an attacker's range, just as closing in can neutralize a larger blade. Don't ever try that with a smaller knife, though.
@QuietandSimple10 The carabiners came about because I wanted to separate my car keys from the remotes that open the car doors. Plus, I'd rather carry my keys and other small metal items on my belt rather than in my pockets. It's still less stuff than my duty belt at work, so it doesn't bother me. On your other point, you are absolutely right. big knives and small knives have different rules for use. That's what I try to emphasize when I teach this technique.
LOL! Yeah, I too can't stand rubbing, jangling noisy things!
BTW You are so right to point out the failing of a longer blade IN THE HANDS OF A NONEXPERT. However, as Miyamoto Mushashi said [paraphrased], for a master a sword is well useable at close range. Obviously at very close range a knife is preferable... but then the opponent could rapidly return to largo so all things considered, if I was in a blade fight and concealment was no issue then I would want a BIG no-dachi!
...IF there was room to swing it! Of course that is unlikely indoors... so then it would be better to go wakizashi but then two is better than one. Two knives are so much better then one machete. feints with a blade can't be ignored and then his counter leaves him open to the other knife.
In reality most times both parties get cut. Blade duels are to be avoided.
Happy training! PS Don't forget that artery shots are not reliable stoppers. Go for the legs and brachial nerves
@sircamealot It's hard to see from this angle (an overhead camera shot would be better), but you are actually zoning out of his range by sidestepping. If you attend one of my seminars, remind me you had a question on this technique and I'll show you how it works.
wow not a good idea. defender can duck and slice the belly.This is good for an untrained opponent but for those trained a sure disembowelment is not a good way to attack.
@yourname241 I don´t think so, if you duck, you get right into the knife incoming path. You should step to 5´ and make a counter to the attacking arm instead.
@chimibert You're right. Ducking is not the best way to counter this attack, since a knife is so much easier to redirect than a punch. Better to step outside the path of his backhand slash by moving back and to your right (4 or 5 o'clock if he is at 12 and you are at 6 standing on an imaginary clock face on the floor.
Good job , working that long range. Too many martial arts forget to use the blade from different ranges and concentrate on the close combat aspect alone. Well done.
This is Inquartata. The point about losing fingers is absolutely valid, but then a real Bowie knife will have a "fighting guard" such as those made by Bill Bagwell which protect the hand. Nice technique.
Never get into a knife fight, never. Well, a knife is probably your best "home defense" outside of the US, because of guns laws and such. If I had to kill someone with a knife, it would obviously be a surprise attack from behind or from the side. Disarming an attacker with a knife is actually the better option, since a fast kick to the chest/groin would most likely injure him enough to stop the attack. Then you'd move in for the swing or stab or just simply kick the knife from his hand.
ForTheFutureOfMusic 2 weeks ago
if anyone ever pulled a knife out on me i would not think twice pulling out my gun
cmf71 1 month ago
@cmf71 Yes of course, a gun is the prefered tool against a knife. The question is would you have time to draw and fire at the normal distances knife attacks occur. Google the words Tueller Drill for more on this.
TuhonBillMcg 1 month ago
@cmf71 You bet. If you are lucky enough to see the knife and draw your sidearm you had better do it quick and without second thought. Inside of 7 meters knife in the hand trumps gun in the holster ("21 foot rule").
myownschadenfreude 1 month ago
dude im so hanging out with this guy with theres a zombie outbreak LOL
JokerScars69 1 month ago
Forget the bowie. Give me a kukri any day of the week!
wardragonprime 3 months ago
What if you are left handed and opponent is right handed (or vice versa), how do you go for his weak side since the knives arr in the same place (while facing each other)
Lar0sa1 6 months ago
@Lar0sa1 When fighting right vs. left, not only do you have to reverse the footwork angles, but you often have to switch some of the strikes with thrusts and vice-versa.
TuhonBillMcg 6 months ago
Hey, would you say that the Ka-bar Big Brother is more suitable for combat than their Large Heavy Bowie?
battousai555 6 months ago
@battousai555 Definitely. Most soldiers I've taught prefer a lighter knife. Speed is king with bladed combat. The Lg Heavy Bowie is better suited to take camping if you don't want to bring a hatchet.
TuhonBillMcg 6 months ago
@TuhonBillMcg Thanks for the input! Would you mind answering a couple more questions? Please excuse me if they are silly/stupid, as I am just getting into blade combat.
Do you think that, assuming equal skill, a person with a Bowie (let's say 9") has the advantage over someone using something a bit shorter with less belly (like a 7" ka-bar usmc or a 6.5" Mark II)?
And are bigger people more suited to bigger knives? Or can a lanky guy like me be just as good with proper technique?
battousai555 5 months ago
@TuhonBillMcg Thanks for the input! Would you mind answering a couple more questions? Please excuse me if they are silly/stupid, as I am just getting into blade combat.
Do you think that, assuming equal skill level, a person using a Bowie (let's say 9") has the advantage over someone using something a little shorter with less belly (like a 7 or 8" ka-bar or a 6.5" Mark II)?
And are bigger people better suited to bigger knives? Or can a lanky guy like me be just as good with proper technique?
battousai555 5 months ago
@battousai555 I've seen some very small men swing a heavy blade very quickly-it all depends on the amount of time training with the blade. Let's assume that you can legally carry either a kabar or a large bowie in your area. I would go with the one that you will find useful for the 99.99% of the time that you won't be using it to defend yourself.
TuhonBillMcg 5 months ago
@TuhonBillMcg That makes perfect sense, thank you!
battousai555 5 months ago
@TuhonBillMcg You take an enemies fingers off, he wont care if it was heavy or light! Long Live The BOWIE!
HerbWalker 4 months ago
I have an 8'' Lapplander-knife, and I feel a little more safer after watching this, because now I actually got a combo to use if I need to defend myself with it! Much better to have a combo with a goal than, as you said, charging in without actually knowing what to do. Thanks a lot!
Ruben1994OL 6 months ago
@Ruben1994OL You shouldn't rely on one technique you've watched on YouTube to defend yourself with, (especially this one, which is the most advanced of the techniques I show on my bowie DVD). You really should get some instruction under a qualified instructor. Go to my pekiti website and look for an instructor in your area.
Regards,
Tuhon Bill McGrath
TuhonBillMcg 6 months ago
@TuhonBillMcg I live in a country where knifefighting is not all that popular, as well as I live in a middlesized town where everybody do handball or soccer, so I don't got much of a choice mate :P
Besides, I meant that it's better to have seen a combo to copy instead of mindlessly charging in.
Cheers!
Ruben1994OL 6 months ago
@TuhonBillMcg Do you have any "general purpose" move that work against whatever, like if they have a knife, club, axe, sword or whatever in either hand and hold?
I'd value that for how often you fight in the dark (home invasion) or where lots of concealed weapons are drawn (defend store in a riot).
I'd rather have one-move I can get really good at than half-a-dozen I'm so-so at.
Treblaine 3 months ago
@Treblaine Yes, it's called a shotgun :-) Seriously, there is no one technique that will work against all attacks. The best you can do is to work on one or two principles that cover most of the common types of attack. See my video Bowie Knife Drill for a sample of this.
TuhonBillMcg 3 months ago
@Ruben1994OL dude, just like the guy said, watching a youtube video won't help that much, most because knowing combos without knowing the basics is like writing chinese words without knowing what they mean just because you saw them somewhere and thought they were cool. If you learn the basics, you might even forget how to do the combo(s) but you can do other things sometimes even more useful for that especific situation, got it?
seusgordo 4 months ago
Hi Bill. I joined your Pekiti-Tirsia mail order group back in the 80s when you sent out a newsletter and T-shirts - good to see you're still practicing. I'm now 60 and am also still training. One problem with this video - you are allowing yourself a multitude of moves and steps and your 'opponent' is only getting one step and two moves. I trained Bowie and Big Knife fighting for a short time with Dwight McLemore. Fun stuff
Badge01Kenobi 6 months ago
@Badge01Kenobi The goal of your training should be to be able to fire two or more moves for every one of your opponent. It's no so much speed as efficiency.
TuhonBillMcg 6 months ago
I have to wonder if the bowie knife pattern would make for a good short sword. Something in the range of a Gladius perhaps.
Lukos0036 7 months ago
A Filipino barong is a type of suit used for formal occasions. I've never heard of a knife called a barong
IAmNotEmoLOL 8 months ago
@IAmNotEmoLOL Enter "Barong knife" in Google images and you'll see many different blades. The Barong Tagalog shirt started in Luzon during the Spanish occupation of the Philippines. The Barong knife originated in the south of the Philippines. That may be why two very different items share the same name. Check out the website "Traditional Filipino Weapons" to see some Barong blades.
TuhonBillMcg 7 months ago
@IAmNotEmoLOL
The barong Tagalog is the formal transparent shirt which translates to "Tagalog dress". This barong knife came from the Muslim Filipinos of the south. Perhaps it was just coincidence that the two were named with the same name given the different dialects. But from what I've found through research, only the leaders from the south wielded these knives. so maybe the Barong knife was a dress knife.
aznricecannon 7 months ago
Hi,
For the sake of comparison can you tell me the blade length the knife you use in this vid, and if this is a home made 'trainer' of wether anywhere sells such wooden bowie training beasts?
Thanks
TheMadness111 9 months ago
@TheMadness111 My trainer is just a piece of oak board that I shaped on a belt sander in my garage. The blade is about 12". I don't know anyone who makes these commercially, but anyone with minimum woodworking tools and experience should be able to make you one.You can make one with hand tools, it just takes longer. My student is using a Cold Steel Trailmaster bowie in its sheath, just for the video. Normally, when I teach this class we just use light weight pvc pipe for trainers.
TuhonBillMcg 9 months ago
@TuhonBillMcg Thanks, I may have a go at knocking one up with a chisel.
TheMadness111 9 months ago
which filipino blade is comparable in size weight and function of the arkansas toothpick blade?
jamiirali1 9 months ago
@jamiirali1 I have a small kris dagger that's pretty close to an Arkansas Toothpick. Check out some of the blades on the "Traditional Filipino Weapons" website.
TuhonBillMcg 7 months ago
great video you have here,
another video that tells it true
(How to stop a knife attack in McCook, Nebraska)
donze52 9 months ago
@coreyl35 cuz the knife can hurt you more than his hand mayb?
94Airsoftsnipergod 10 months ago
Um... Instead of hitting his knife first, why don't you try hitting his hand?
CoreyI35 11 months ago
@xI3elialx please teach me a"flawless" technique, news flash there is no such thing as a flawless technique every move whether its boxing,jiu jitsu, or knife fighting everything has a counter and to that a counter another counter. so save your wise shit for somewhere else.
iiskate208 11 months ago
Hmm I'm looking for a custom knife maker. I want a good blade for fighting. One with a blade catcher, about 9in, not REAL beefy. More of an extended KA-BAR with a little More heft. I'll die trying to find the perfect knife. I'm hoping to become a bladesmith after I complete college.
Wabaanimkii 1 year ago
@Wabaanimkii Ah, the quest for the perfect knife. That has led many a young man down a never ending road.
You might want to try some factory knives first. You can get several different models for the price of one custom and help define what you really need. Cold Steel, Ontario, Ka-Bar, Condor, all make good blades. I would start with tool steel as this is more forgiving than stainless in hard use and easier for a factory to get the temper right. Ka-Bar has a new model that might interest you.
TuhonBillMcg 1 year ago
@TuhonBillMcg Thanks for the help. I'll certainly look up Big Brother. I have a shit blade with a half heart on the blade. It looks like either a rope cutter or a blade snapper.
Wabaanimkii 1 year ago
@Wabaanimkii well when it comes to self defense a shitty knife is better than no knife at all
Algastar 1 year ago
@Wabaanimkii Check out the Ka-Bar review at this year's Shot Show on the Equip2Endure channel.
There's a larger version of the Ka-Bar combat knife that might interest you. It's called the Big Brother. You'll find it for sale on Tomar's Ka-Bar website.
TuhonBillMcg 1 year ago
@Wabaanimkii A very good place to meet custom makers and learn how knives are made is the New England Bladesmith's annual seminar in Ashokan, NY. It falls on the 3rd weekend in Sept. All the knife makers there are very knowledgeable and extremely giving of their time and experience. I regularly lecture there and I highly recommend it. Google the words ashokanknifeseminar to find their website.
TuhonBillMcg 1 year ago
@TuhonBillMcg Great vid man!
LaddieGalicia 11 months ago
@TuhonBillMcg I have always been a big fan of Jerry Hossom's knives. He has a couple models that are designed in the spirit of a fighting bowie, and while his blades are large, they are deeply hollow ground to allow for a lightweight blade that can be maneuvered much more easily than something like a ka-bar.
HydeMyJekyll 10 months ago
@HydeMyJekyll I just checked out some of Hossom's knives online and I have to say he has some of the most ergonomic handles in the business. I especially like his one piece micarta grips with the built in guard and a pommel that's large enough to keep your hand from slipping off the knife. While I'm not a big fan of hollow ground blades, I do like his blade shapes. Overall some very well thought out designs.
TuhonBillMcg 10 months ago
ehm most people have guns now am i right..?
megalodon30 1 year ago
@megalodon30 Only half of US household own a firearm and the percentage of people who carry regularly in public is far less. The point of this training though is that if you carry a large blade (as many of my martial arts students do when camping, hiking, etc), you should know how to defend yourself with it.
TuhonBillMcg 1 year ago
@megalodon30 ehm no a knife is actually a better defense than a gun if you know how to use it also a knife doesnt run out of bullets
MrJamfoof 11 months ago
@MrJamfoof Why is a knife better? Granted, you are much much more likely to have a knife than a gun (if anything) in an unexpected situation, so knowing how to use a knife well is certainly more useful than knowing how to use a gun well (VS a basic competence. Basic competence with a knife will probably get you killed where basic competence with a gun makes you a reasonable punter). But a gun would be the better pick in the vast majority of situations... But only if you had it... Disagree ?
Pwn00b 11 months ago
@Pwn00b no i dont disagree a gun is definitely more powerful but lets say we all the sudden went into civil war you only have so many bullets so i guess you can say knowing both is even better lol
MrJamfoof 11 months ago
@MrJamfoof Haha, cant argue with both! Where I live, because of the strict laws, the carry weapon of choice (By those people who feel the need) is electrical pliers i.e. long nose pliers... Anything that is a 'knife' will get you thrown in a deep hole. Amusingly, purpose built weapons like a foot long trench spike will get you in less trouble than a one-hand-open-able pocket knife. So, anyone teaching "long nose pliers" combat here?
Pwn00b 11 months ago
@Pwn00b You can use palm stick techniques with small tools like pliers. Check out the Palm Stick video on my channel page TuhonBillMcG
TuhonBillMcg 11 months ago
@TuhonBillMcg That's quite interesting. To be honest I wasn't expecting a serious response but now that you have pointed me in that direction I will follow it up. Just shows that there can be a good answer to any question if you ask the right person. Thanks Tuhon.
Pwn00b 11 months ago
@MrJamfoof yeah that's true but a knife is better on a close distance thats one of the reasons why a police officer owns a gun instead of a knife
megalodon30 6 months ago
dont bowie knives have like a brass knuckle handle? am i wrong or r just some of then like that?
gameboykid11 1 year ago
@gameboykid11 No, that's just one way they are made. Check out the wikipedia article on the bowie knife for more detailed info.
TuhonBillMcg 1 year ago
@TuhonBillMcg o ok thnx man
gameboykid11 1 year ago
lats weekend i played knife fighting with my friend he make a dumb move and i cut in his hand i fall down he was bleeding !
TheDslide 1 year ago
I hold mine upside down like handle facing up and blade faceing down
waddledee1000 1 year ago
i think it's cool that you move faster than you look
TedOfNod 1 year ago
Im gonna have a rock or what ever object in the other hand if I can to throw at the other guy than im gonna do a jailyard rush using it like a machete..i dunno about these techs ...looks good at the gym tho
Mosin54r 1 year ago
4 words : aim for the neck
spotman30 1 year ago
black ops
spotman30 1 year ago
err, well i know nothing about knife fighting, but wouldnt it be better to go for the body instead of the head??
....what about if u wanted to kill??
96321az 1 year ago
hey..do you like butterfly knife?
i like to learn combat knife fighting using butterfly for self protect..
ewann94 1 year ago
a gun is way better
skrukle180 1 year ago
@skrukle180
Speaking from extensive experience in close quarters hard contact scenarios, I'll reach for my 9" blade before I fish my 9mm out. A bowie will do more damage than any handgun if you know how to use it bro.
I know of a local officer who was sliced to ribbons by a 12 inch machete weilded by a perp who drew at 20 feet away from him, ran up on him and forced him into early retirement before the officer could find a stance to center his Glock. He never got a shot off. Lost an arm & eye
DeathBlades422 1 year ago
Good idea, I only ever seem to see the overhead angle in boxing matches at the point of KO and it tends to be a rare thing. I've never seen much about Bowie fighting techniques anywhere. I've always been sort of vaguely interested in sword fighting but oddly never considered knife fighting. Aside from the damage factor and having to take range into account, what are the main differences between knife fighting with a regular size knife and the big one?
Dave54600 1 year ago
@Dave54600 The longer the lever, the better the leverage. You can't take an arm off with one swing with a pocket knife, while you can with a heavy 9 inch bowie. Clothing that will stop a pocket knife slash will not impede a hack from a sharp large blade. I'm becoming more impressed by the versatility of short machetes for this reason. I have a 12" Cold Steel Barong machete that is light and quick in the hand, but will still cut through a tree branch as thick as my thumb in one cut.
TuhonBillMcg 1 year ago
@TuhonBillMcg The 9" to 18" blade range (a common blade length among indigenous peoples with access to steel tools) makes a good multipurpose outdoor/survival/defensive tool because of the versatility of blades of this size.
I now sell the 12" Cold Steel Barong machete on my website for this reason. It comes sharpened with a convex edge and packaged with a DVD that demonstrates techniques like the one shown above. Go to the PEKITI website for more information.
TuhonBillMcg 1 year ago
@TuhonBillMcg
Convex is a good edge for heavy-duty choppers. Most fighting knives have chisel edge. And don't think you will carry Barong on the streets. A way higher chance you'll meet a police than a burglar. And go to jail, cause it's definetely a cold weapon. Too large and too heavy. Try to prove it is a utility knife.
saintfather 1 year ago
@saintfather I taught this technique as part of an outdoor survival skills seminar. The blade class had two sections, one for small knives and one for large knives in the 9 to 12 inch blade range. The idea is that you should be able to defend yourself with whatever tool you have. A 9" bowie or a 12" machete is not an uncommon item to bring camping and would be legal in most states for that use. See my Three Blade Survival System video for an explanation of the uses of various sized blades.
TuhonBillMcg 1 year ago
@TuhonBillMcg Have you consider just going for a wakisashi? This probably has all you look for in a large fighting knife. Well technically it a short sword, but since you are moving to machete anyway... Wakisashi will have thicker, heaver blade then a machete.
I was also very impress with the coldsteel sanmai Khukhri.
newtubetubetube 1 year ago
Nice technique and explanation. Not sure about the distraction fakey playing part though, that's asking for trouble. Seems like a bit of an assumption to me, that the guy is going to attack with the knife I mean. On camera he appears to be within range to kick you pretty good.
Dave54600 1 year ago
@Dave54600 Of course the better you "sell" the fake the better it works. And having a large, sharp knife whip towards his eyes does tend to get his attention. Using a large knife or machete also helps equalizes the reach difference between arms and legs. He can try to kick, but he runs into a real danger of getting impaled. I should try shooting this technique from overhead, so people can see the range accurately. The side angle camera shot is what makes out of range movie fights look in range.
TuhonBillMcg 1 year ago
I have a question. I am a fellow large blade practicioner (Bowie, Pinuti, Machete). Why do you carry so many items on carabiners on your pants? I am not attemtping to be funny, ridicule, or in any way imply disrespect. I am honestly curious. They would irritate me for days if I was drilling. Oh, and sidestepping properly does take you out of an attacker's range, just as closing in can neutralize a larger blade. Don't ever try that with a smaller knife, though.
QuietandSimple10 1 year ago
@QuietandSimple10 The carabiners came about because I wanted to separate my car keys from the remotes that open the car doors. Plus, I'd rather carry my keys and other small metal items on my belt rather than in my pockets. It's still less stuff than my duty belt at work, so it doesn't bother me. On your other point, you are absolutely right. big knives and small knives have different rules for use. That's what I try to emphasize when I teach this technique.
TuhonBillMcg 1 year ago
@QuietandSimple10
LOL! Yeah, I too can't stand rubbing, jangling noisy things!
BTW You are so right to point out the failing of a longer blade IN THE HANDS OF A NONEXPERT. However, as Miyamoto Mushashi said [paraphrased], for a master a sword is well useable at close range. Obviously at very close range a knife is preferable... but then the opponent could rapidly return to largo so all things considered, if I was in a blade fight and concealment was no issue then I would want a BIG no-dachi!
danielskipp1 1 year ago
@QuietandSimple10
...IF there was room to swing it! Of course that is unlikely indoors... so then it would be better to go wakizashi but then two is better than one. Two knives are so much better then one machete. feints with a blade can't be ignored and then his counter leaves him open to the other knife.
In reality most times both parties get cut. Blade duels are to be avoided.
Happy training! PS Don't forget that artery shots are not reliable stoppers. Go for the legs and brachial nerves
danielskipp1 1 year ago
I like your video! I'm part Filipino and work with knives also. ~Israel
WeAllJuggleKnives 1 year ago
Dude by side stepping you are exposing you're own side and leaving yourself wide open for a counter attack
sircamealot 1 year ago
@sircamealot It's hard to see from this angle (an overhead camera shot would be better), but you are actually zoning out of his range by sidestepping. If you attend one of my seminars, remind me you had a question on this technique and I'll show you how it works.
Regards,
Tuhon Bill McGrath
TuhonBillMcg 1 year ago
wow not a good idea. defender can duck and slice the belly.This is good for an untrained opponent but for those trained a sure disembowelment is not a good way to attack.
yourname241 1 year ago
@yourname241 I don´t think so, if you duck, you get right into the knife incoming path. You should step to 5´ and make a counter to the attacking arm instead.
chimibert 1 year ago
@chimibert You're right. Ducking is not the best way to counter this attack, since a knife is so much easier to redirect than a punch. Better to step outside the path of his backhand slash by moving back and to your right (4 or 5 o'clock if he is at 12 and you are at 6 standing on an imaginary clock face on the floor.
TuhonBillMcg 1 year ago
@TuhonBillMcg Exactly! That was what i meant by 5¨ O´Clock. If you see it, stepping that way, you have a clear counter against his attacking arm.
Respect to you Master
chimibert 1 year ago
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yourname241 1 year ago
Always love watching Tuhon McGrath !!!
Hi From Dallas Tx
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dallastiger1 1 year ago
I think it's worse to get killed by a knife than a gun.
Charles2337 1 year ago
Good job , working that long range. Too many martial arts forget to use the blade from different ranges and concentrate on the close combat aspect alone. Well done.
ACTdirector 1 year ago
I'm kinda partial to this technique..I just see too many open areas and veins exposed all in all good warming drill
AsianSN 1 year ago
kick ass explanation of zoning. I agree with renrakali very similar concept as In Quartata.
HYBRIDCOMBATIVES 1 year ago
This is Inquartata. The point about losing fingers is absolutely valid, but then a real Bowie knife will have a "fighting guard" such as those made by Bill Bagwell which protect the hand. Nice technique.
renrakali 1 year ago
This technique reminds me of the Italian Fencing Master, Giacomo diGrasse's High Ward attack.
spadaydaga 1 year ago
A very good explanation and demonstration....Thank you Tuhon Bill.
Dhodin2 1 year ago
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Dhodin2 1 year ago
Great video. I also really liked the tutorial video that you put together on your every day carry (EDC) knives. Thanks Tuhon!
PrecisionFitness1 1 year ago