Final dispatch from te DNC

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[god0fmusic]

no to Obama, no to Mccain, no to Ron Paul. we are the only ones who can run our community.

we must end capitalism, since it is separating us so much that we no longer know the community we have created it. we have to restore balance and rebuild out communities. we have to make them again so we can know them, and therefore run them accordingly.

we cant trust anyone else to do this for us.

[protocall1957]

A Lance Corporal with a four-year hash mark on his sleeve wearing Marine Corps dress blues. That's kind of pathetic. They all look like their "panic button" shorted out...

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[phuck420]

I like rage's music but i really dislike these far far left people, I'm trying tobe nice but if your an anarchist your an idiot.

[phuck420]

this is bullshit you call your viewers slaves and talk about fighting censorship like your some bullshit revoulutionaries, yet anybody can go on your website or youtube and watch your reports. This is pathetic and imature use the word fuck a couple more times it makes you sound so bad ass and cool.

[ryanshaunkelly]

They fear Cindy, mom of dead vet. They fear Tillman family. They fear vets. They fear our unity... PAUL IN ST PAUL fear neocons fear nader paul kucinich gravel mckinney ventura too perot charts RATM Wrenches in the gears; Lives not lived in vain.

[KenCat1337]

I am an Anarchist, though I respect a lot of the people you speak of. Mike Gravel, Cynthea McKinney, etc.

[deirdrec1]

Newsflash...The world is run on a greed principle, ie: LOVE OF MONEY!!...that will not change..there is too much to lose...

[mopsius]

It's more complex than that.

First, it is not the hwole world.

Second, the adepts at the monetary economy have convinced Americans there is no other higher form of life on the planet.

They also also designed a system that tries to make that a self-fulfilling prophecy by wiping out anyone who lives or thinks differently.

[KenCat1337]

Not everyone is in love of money..

[uberjim83]

I used to think I loved money, but now I realize it was just dependence all along. Let the healing begin!

[deirdrec1]

Amen to that!! @uberjim

[deirdrec1]

Well, Thank God, that is true!!

[mopsius]

These Dudues showing up at the Republican Convention?

[meeputube]

Dont forget to hit up the GOP.

[nombriliste]

Raging will not make you popular at work. Hollow men will say you are irrational. But I have a note from my unconscious saying it would severely imperil my health if I continued to adapt. You can have a crap life.

[ldhablo666]

dear victor and quantum:  you really should read Derrick Jensen's, Endgame. All these arguments you are using he DISMANTLES. I would recapitulate them here, but it would be too cumbersome due to space constraints. Seriously people, read those two volumes and then we'll talk. Stop thinking like a victim and one day we'll be a position to be effective.

[necronomicjustice]

Fuck Derrick Jensen, Eco Fascists, and Anti-Civilizationists.

[Hockeyjason]

WTF is an Eco fascist?

[necronomicjustice]

Someone who advances a "deep ecology" ideology that will require a global genocide in order to reach their goals of an ideal limited population. Ironically, some of these people also confuse themselves with being anarchists.

[WeWillWinAnarchy]

So long as civilization exists, Anarchy will not. Guess what, the population of the world will greatly decrease no matter what. We can lower it gradually without mass death by progressively dismantling Civilization, or we can continue techno-population overshoot and then crash violently when we run out of resources. The population decrease is inevitable and unstoppable. How do you want it to go down?

[uberjim83]

I actually think Anarchy comes about as a result of civilization and vice versa. People rebel because they are oppressed, and eventually someone will succeed fully and a new order will arise from the chaos.

[mopsius]

Subtle thought--statism cause anarchy.

Nietzsche and Freud (who stole from Neitzsche) both touched on similar ideas, though Freud thought that "civilization", however rigid and authoritarian, was a desirable goal.

The idea is also the whole of Rousseau in a nutshell.

[uberjim83]

I disagree, and prefer a balance of chaos and order. Those guys were pretty damn smart though!

[necronomicjustice]

"How do you want it to go down?" In a mad flurry of false binaries!

[WeWillWinAnarchy]

"In a mad flurry of false binaries!"

What hacking?

A couple of pro hackers, here and there, could shut down the electrical utilities, for at least a couple of days.

[uberjim83]

A couple of hackers will decide who our next president is, if they use those machines.

Off topic, sorry...

[ldhablo666]

it bears repeating:

Jello "fat fuck" Biafra is full of shit and tried to tell the RATM crowd to assault their fellow protesters if they attempted to merely break windows and so forth... that's how retardedly "pacifistic" he is...

Plus the whole fucking flobots vibe (they did rock) was all "non-violence" horseshit.

I can't believe RATM puts up with that shit.

Violence works. period.

The Stimulator is the shit tho... big ups!

[victorbarovsky]

Um. Violence may work, but right now the state and all its helper monkeys have the complete control over the "means of violence". I am all for fighting back at protests, but not if all we achieve are cracked skulls. Even something small like picking up stuff (rocks and pebbles) to throw at the cops takes great bravery, but also risks a police riot.

Remember that the cops can pull back and come back at you with tear gas and batons... they can come back with live ammunition if they need to!

[Puzzoozoo]

"Power comes from the barrel of a gun". Mao Zedong And bullets can fly in both directions.

[quantumdivider]

ldhablo666, you do realize that the more violent we are the more the corporate media and government will paint us as terrorists, looters, and bloodthirsty animals?

[WeWillWinAnarchy]

Who cares? Don't argue with people, politics solves nothing. Like the Situationists, make people live. Gandhi was considered a dangerous radical and he never hurt anyone. The media will always be on the side of power and privilege. It is ridiculous to base our actions on whether the majority of people will support us which is unlikely to ever happen. We must do whatever it takes to burn this system to its earliest roots and start over Beyond Civilization.

[rapesickal]

Naomi Klein hit the nail on the head. Even though i would rather see Obama win Than McCain. They are both "puppets" but i believe McCain is the puppet more easily manipulated than Obama. It doesn't really matter in the grand scheme because the politians are irrelevant. The owners of this nation are the ones who really control what goes on. Even IF Obama acually ends the war and acually brings all the "change" he promises, they'll kill him kennedy style.

[medulalumosa]

Absolute TRUTH! You just voiced everything I've been thinking.

[MrMP81]

I'll be at the Rally For The Republic >:)

[wize11]

It seems like they wanted to party more than have change.

[wretchedSTONER]

awesome RATM footage.

[creten69]

he has to lie to win,and get biden.ok if mother fukn obama gets us completely out of iraq,then not only does naomi,you and scahill,have to publicly get together get on your knees apologize,and in penance you must completely stay out of the public eye for 10 years.And if your right and he's a lier,then you can have me as a pawn to actually do something about the problem,like make a huge statement,like the monk who lit himself,or the guy in tieninmin square.Something that requires a life sacrifice

[stimulator]

Creten, I took a screenshot if this and I am going to hold you to it. So Obama's website says that if he gets elected the troops would be out by "...the summer of 2010" So to be nice I would say summer end on Sept. 30th. So on October 1st you should have the gas cans ready.

[SilasWolfe]

If you're in the activism game, go direct action or go the fuck home.

[mikezephyr]

i say that and i get like 6 fucking thumbs down and angry comments telling my im a nazi.

but seriously, these dnc protests are like the gov't-designated whine fests in beijing.

[marniespeaks]

Jeremy Scahill is one very smart guy

see his book or on DN re: Blackwater

[Drakul1234]

Nice to see some soldiers who still have a heart. Go veterans against the war!

[lordblazer]

Most soldiers have a heart, but many are waking up!!! This is a very good thing.

[mistaspot1]

Obama says nothing about overturning any of Bush's spying legislation.

Fuck him.

[navtel]

power to the people.. those stupid cops and military personal do not know what they are doing .. they are enabling the government to do what ever they want, when ever they want.. america is definitely under seige.

[ldhablo666]

Jello was the biggest disappointment for me. His idiotic and unethical eschewing of counter-system violence (aka: self-defense) is becoming ridiculous.

He literally told us that violence was unacceptable & immoral when used by us against the system BUT for us to then USE violence on other protesters if we saw them damaging private property during the march in Denver.

That fat bastard has officially become a reactionary douche bag.

read: Pacifism as Pathology pronto kids...

[ldhablo666]

That was a great day. the concert was dope, the march was dope, and the NADER rally was dope too.

JELLO BIAFRA IS FULL OF SHIT: PACIFISM IS FOR PEOPLE WHO LIKE GETTING THE SHIT KICKED OUT OF THEM.

JELLO GOT ON STAGE IN DENVER AND TOLD US TO "STOP" (HE THEN USED HIS ARMS TO DEMONSTRATE HOW WERE TO RESTRAIN OUR COMRADES) ANONE TRYING TO DAMAGE PRIVATE PROPERTY AT THE MARCH! FOR JELLO, USING COERCION AND VIOLENCE AGAINST YOUR FELLOW PROTESTERS TO PROTECT STARBUCK'S WINDOWS IS A-OK.

DOUCHE.

[wretchedSTONER]

...............shocking.

[lordblazer]

It seems hyprocritical but I see where he is coming from, but the police are shooting rubber bullets, bean bags, and tear gases, and coercing and arresting people anyway so violence of not. Police reaction is as if everyone is rioting and Denver is burning up.

[t0kt0k]

I didn't want to like Jeremy Scahill, but he just keeps growing on me. Like a fungus.

[TheStoicAgnostic]

nice

the RNC is gonna be a swell time