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  • both bands are humongously good.

  • 3:05 hommage to king crimson (larks tongues in aspic pt 3). good to see how great bands inspire new great bands: king crimson --> tool --> meshuggah --> dilliger... well and kc also inspired the mars volta... and they're ALL still active, including kc, imagine seeing them all on one single festival... !!!!

  • ûhm_ï_fËÉl_sÔ_lÕnèlY_tÔÐÂÿ

  • This is CALCULUS!

  • I'd say, if I were to compare DEP to anything remotely connected to Meshuggah it would be a comparison to the Mats/Morgan Band.

  • A lot of people are banging their heads to Meshuggah but they don't really know what the fucks going on...

    Your band is fuckin' insane.

    WE WROTE THIS PLAN, TOOK THE ORDER

  • I just love how Jens goes "Your band is fucking insane." He's just so deadpan about it. XD

  • dissonance and harmony two one words for one thing, are these good musicians or bad musicians, are these creators or destroyers... nothing exists as well as everything, energy cannot be created or destroyed its created and destroyed, the future will resemble the past but in all certainty it will not be the past, whos the best and who knows that noone is better than you. anyway thats what i get from these guys

  • I think The Dillinger Escape Plan is easier to listen to. probably because i've listened to each song they've made WAY to many times so i understand the time signatures, but i guess it's mainly because of my short attention span.

    Meshuggah blows me away in a different way though, i still remember listening to catch 33 and being like "damn this is a long ass first song" looked at my itunes and i was on the 4th song >__>

    both are amazing. somewhat similar, but very different at the same time.

  • @sammpaull2722 Catch 33 technically is one long-ass song.

  • @warnerve420 CATCH 33 TECHNICALLY IS A BIBLE

  • @Meshuggahnize Correction noted haha.

  • Seriously, why bitch about what band is better? Like some of you said, they are two totally different bands, both on cd and live. And eventhough DEP got inspired by Meshuggah, they ddid something different with it!

    Both bands are great and I will listen to the band that suits my mood the most. I refuse to even think about which of the bands is better. I hope they both will continue for a very long time!

  • Both bands are fucking amazing.

  • if veil of maya played this show aswell... fuck.

  • you havent been to a gig until till youve been to a dillinger gig (small venue of course, not festival.)

  • Dillinger Escape Plan is such a bitch shit!!

    hail Meshuggah

  • bahaha.. just love it when he says "your bands just fucking insane" Greaat!

  • IMO, Meshuggah is more brutal than DEP, exept C.I. album, that's the most brutal album ever... but I guess the're right, it's stupid to compare these two bands, they both are great in the're own way.

  • Holy Fuck!!! My two fav bands together! AWESOME!

  • 3:56

    Love Jen's description, aha.

  • If Neurosis and Converge were in this, it'd pretty much be an interview of the four most important bands in heavy music these days.

  • fuck

  • wtf happenne to chris pennie

  • Chris and Ben had a massive falling out. Dudes couldn't stand each other.

  • yeah i know that part. just interested in what he'S doing now. he's one talented motherfucker. it would be sad if he just vanished from the metal scene. and miss his drumming in Dillinger too.

  • you know he's in Coheed and Cambria now right?  not as fun or interesting of a band in my opinion.

  • His ass joined Coheed and Cambria ages ago.

  • "your bands fucking insane"

    Made my day.

  • your band's fucking insane!WE WROTE THIS PLAN--

    where can I find the full concert of both bands?? I NEED it!!

  • dude, idk but if u find it, let me know!!

  • Meshuggah fucking DEVOURS

  • Jazz-scream?

  • awesome video with really cool interviews. really too bad dillinger is dead now that pennie left though. i mean could you imagine haak or thordendal leaving meshuggah? sigh..

  • i see dillinger as like a flying pterodactyl-type monster that cuts people in half...

    i see meshuggah as a tyrannosaurus/steamroller armed with shotguns that also cuts people in half.

  • FUCK YEAH!

  • hahahahahahahhaha fuckin brutal.

  • word!

  • @hellonieman  I see me cutting you in half

  • @hellonieman HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA YES! THAT!

  • @hellonieman surpringly i think thats an acurate analogy.

  • Textures and Meshuggah for me although I do like DEP

  • 2 ground breaking bands

  • I saw this on swedish television when i was like 12 years old. Two of my favourite bands.

  • hahahahaha 1:36

    your band's fucking insane

  • Jens Kidman = Everyone's favourite heavy metal pirate (: (: :L

  • What about Uli Jon Roth? Less metal, but more pirate.

  • Yeah, maybe

    But how much money would you pay to hear Jens go "ARRR ME HEARTY!!"

  • Ha, good point. I would pay even more to hear him scream it.

  • Fuck, dude, haven´t thought about that, would be so fucking great!

  • "It's something we havn't been able to do." "your band, is fucking insane" made me laugh like crazy. If Jens Kidman told me that i'd be honered

  • i agree! hahaha

  • greg talks like a bitch iron sheik will make him humble

  • A sharp guitar to the face would make the Iron Sheik buckle in a second.

  • i doubt that

  • or make him humble

  • I don't understand this idea of 'getting/not getting' music. It implies that there is a correct way to hear it. Crazy. I'm sure both bands would hate the idea of only playing to other musicians or those who understand rhythmic structure in an academic way.

  • Well there are different ways to listen to music. For instance, I barely ever listen to what the vocalist is actually saying. I just listen to what they sound like, since I can't understand them on a first listen. When I'm listening to Meshuggah, I could take the whole thing at once, or I could actually pay attention to the differentiations within the rhythms. As a drummer, doing the latter makes me really appreciate the band more. But there's no right or wrong way to listen. Just different.

  • The day I started playing bass and guitar myself it changed the way I look to music completely. You can never but really never again listen to music the way you did before you played it yourself. So there are indeed different ways to see/understand music.

  • Pretty much what I'm trying to say is:

    "When you find yourself listening to a tune and you're unsure of whether you're listening to a Meshuggah track or a DEP track, you can then compare the two."

    They are so unmistakably different from each other that it's incredibly difficult to find anything to compare them with each other. If that makes sense.

  • Meshuggah are in a league all of their own.

    Eg, as soon as you hear that angry Thordendal low F djentage, the crazy wall of YARR that mr Kidman generates and the tight polyrhythms of Haake that give you a brain injury trying to count along, you auto know it's Mushuggah.

    Just like when you hear that fucking whacked out slap bass riff with what sounds like a hillbilly spitting a tale over the top of it, you've got yourself some Primus.

    Bands like these can't be compared with anything else...

  • They just really break boundaries, if that makes any sense.

  • None is the better. It's 2 totally different bands, playing totally different music. I love them both, I prefer meshuggah for the awesome frackaheavyliciousness, but at the same time I prefer Dillinger for their extreme crazyness. Meshuggah's heavy, Dillinger's hard!

  • I think the dillinger have got very good energy on stage and are great technically! Im more of a Meshuggah guy myself because no one has never heard anything like meshuggah! but i think they are both good in their own ways!

  • dilinger escape plan cannot stand up to meshuggah

  • How I miss Chris. While Gil Sharone wasn´t a bad drummer, he seemed to have a habit of speeding up their songs live, something that Chris really seemed to have under control most of the time.

  • chris has had years of practice and familiarity with the tracks, im sure gil works better with any tracks that he specifically wrote drumt racks for on ire works

  • ...ur band is fucking insane... hahaa

  • Meshuggah is 50 times better. with albums like Contradictions Collapse, Destroy Erase Improve, Chaosphere, Nothing, I, Catch 33 and obZen...its pretty a no brainer whos the better band. but I do respect DEP and they are a pretty good band.

  • Meshuggah...best metal band ever...

  • i have this whole concert by meshuggah on my ipod it is one hour of pure joy :D

  • Both are good bands. But, being objective, they don`t even compete in the same league. Meshuggah is a completely diferent thing.

    And for me, all the "Core" or hardcore movement isn`t Heavy Metal. They have similarities, but Heavy Metal (in my opinion) is far above from that kind of genres.

    If yo ask me, Meshuggah is one of the 10 best bands of all Heavy Metal history.

    You can disagree, but for me that is the truth.

    Also, sorry for my English, it isn`t very good.

  • "And for me, all the "Core" or hardcore movement isn`t Heavy Metal. They have similarities, but Heavy Metal (in my opinion) is far above from that kind of genres"

    What you like is an opinion but that comment is based in more bias then fact. There are various kinds of metal but just because they all rn't the same dosen't make one less valid as a form of metal.

  • Does the common held idea of heavy metal today sound like the experimentation of Zepplins early metal stuff. No but yet people seem to fix there ideas of what metal and base it on limits of taste. And Meshugga isn't straight heavy metal themselves much like DEP. It's a mixture based on there experimentation with metal. Metal is metal regardless of what you prefer or don't. Those "simularities" are an indication of what they are.

  • imo hardcore is more rooted in punk than in metal.

    meshuggah is the best metal band out there today.

  • well put. ya hardcore is more punk/thrash

  • your band's fucken insane. lol.

  • Meshuggah as a good band, but compared to Dillinger they look a bit silly.

  • Meshuggah couldn't look silly if they dyed their hair, got it braided, and started playing daisy rock guitars. I haven't listened to enough Dillinger to have an opinion but I think Meshuggah is amazing. Of course their live show does seem to lack the insane amount of energy that Dillinger has. It has a more "Creeping Doom" feel too it than the "unbridled rage" that Dillinger has.

  • That´s an excellent way to put it.

  • that's cause Meshuggah just have to stand there to be cool.

  • SILLY?? MESHUGGAH fucking rule man! more than any bands... you are a joke, you are the silly, you are ignorant!

  • Compared to Dillinger, Meshuggah are painfully generic, in spite of the fact they're one of the very best metal bands out there.

  • i actually dont like dillinger and will never put those two together unless one was going to rip the other ones balls off

  • I'd say they're two completely different bands:

    Meshuggah is like: *CHHHOOOUUUUUGGHHHH!!!!*

    whereas DEP is like: *KAAAIIIIYYYEEEHHHH!!!!*

  • I saw this on television a few years back. It was my first contact with The Dillinger Escape Plan. Fucking awesome.

  • They are equally insane musically, but Dillinger obviously has a more insane live show. They are soo good live. I need to see Meshuggah still

  • DEP much more insane than Meshuggah, that's for sure

  • "your band is fucking insane"

    two of the best bands in my opinion haha

  • Two of my top three right here.

    Just ad Fantomas.

  • 2 brilliantly talented bands

  • "...Your band is fucking awesome"

  • the DEP guy looks like he's all nervous and excited being next to jens...who wouldn't?

  • DEP <3<3<3<3<33<3< saw them live this summer o.O best concert I've ever seen

  • they have the most insane style of playing live...lol just as insane as there playing

  • i wonder what they did with that giant nothing banner in the background . fuck if i could get my hands on that

  • hey man it's not as that expensive to do banner like that for your own.

  • Love both bands, but DEP edge it for me. They're a insane band, and I'm an insane person. Do the math.

  • your band is fucking insane.

    hahaha

  • i have listened to DEP many times over two years and i still put forth that DEP does not ever approach equality with meshuggah, has always played noise, and jens is not making a compliment when he tells ben that his band is insane. he doesn't appear pleased to be spoken for and his tone seems to indicate irritation. i won't rant but DEP makes about as much sense as microsoft windows on the playstation 3 being used for high performance applications. i could be wrong, but thats just me.

  • I just got back to youtube after taking apart my computer to find out how it worked and several other completely different activities with my time. After over a year I return to find this video's comments much as I had left them. Haven't missed a thing. Except perhaps the the hilarious response to a rebuttal of my argument questioning who it was directed at after noticing I had long ago stopped responding. It was indeed argument for the sake of argument.

  • it is to this day still incredibly amusing to listen this video while reading the responses to my comments, knowing i had no direction with my "argument" and just fanned the flames as they came. such a delight is the subtle art of manipulation that i had to comeback and continue the nonsense. who now will humiliate themselves in argument with me? i'll begin the fun with more bias than ever before.

  • That screen with a mountain picture is hilarious! :D

  • I love Meshuggah and DEP so much. Their cds never leave the player in my truck.

  • YIIIIIHAAAAW BILLY

  • I love how quiet Jens is off-stage... then "Your band is fucking insane."

  • yeah, lol.

  • i must point out the absurdity of a member of DEP speaking for jens kidman on meshugah's approach to songwriting, and would contend this equal to blasphemy and deserving of the blunt and honest difference between the two being spoken by jens as a grand entrance to the conversation that should have started and ended without ben weinman or DEP having any place to compare the two bands or speak at all.

  • "The people that come, can come [to shows], it's not our job to figure out why" if that was the only part of the interview that I saw of this clip that would have been enough.

  • You know, I once felt sorry for Henry Rollins' vocal cords. No longer.

  • the ONLY two metal bands i listen to anymore... fuck all the rest, meshuggah and DEP own!

  • Check out also PsyOpus, Sunn))) O, SikTh...

  • Check out also PsyOpus, Sunn))) O, SikTh...

  • "your band is fucking insane" haha, then just complete chaos.

  • what the fuck if you listen to dillinger greg can sing pretty damn good and hes a fuckin beast at screamin

  • fuck you, dillinger and meshuggah are both amazing.

  • dillinger kinda blow at first glance but its ok i guess w/e

    MESHUGGAH pwn

  • sounds interesting from one of the world worst musicians ...

  • Apparently, you cannot accept a sarcasm in your perfect world.

  • do you also agree with "hitler was a sensible man" ?

  • When it comes the black humorous content, yes.

    But as I said before, some people cannot really understand a sarcasm or an exaggeration on YouTube.

  • i´m very sorry. but it seems like i´m not really the only one who wasn´t able to recognize your "sarcasm" .... it sounded just like "someone once said cannibal corpse fans are stupid like bricks .... i agree" ... where is the sarcasm ?

  • What a great video thanks !

  • Jens at 4:07 is funny

  • "Your band is fucking insane" hell yeah they are!!

    Hail Meshuggah and DEP!

  • ur band is fucking insane .. löl ...DEP!!!

  • Meshuggah and Dillinger have "paved the way" for me... especially there drummers as they have influenced my drumming greatly. I salute.

  • what sucks is that their talking about the ignorant concert goers who dont know crap about music-the same kind that bood the mars volta of the stage and threw piss at them

    no musician should have to oay for ignorance that way...Meshuggah is great though

  • both these bands are tighter than a nuns arse live

  • That's the best description right there lol.

    Both AMAZING bands. I saw DEP for the first time in Yeovil on the 21st Feb....INTENSE is putting it mildly lol.

  • 1:37 lol! Kidman is a legend and he likes tool.

  • Tool is awesome! And Meshuggah, and DEP!

  • i Have Jens' Tool sweatshirt...

    well..

    the same one

  • chambers bums me in the anus guys cmon u must see the real problems in this world! help me! mmm i love ur cum

  • Both these bands are amazing. You can only really see their similarities if you try learning some of their songs. I love it!!

  • Meshuggah are gods.....im still working on understanding DEP, they go from sounding great to sounding like pure sh$t......but the attitude is what binds us all toghether.

  • I don't think DEP waves their guitars around enough. xD Sorry, that just looks hilarious.

    But yeah, they're too different to really compare. Apples and pencils; doesn't work.

  • have you tried playing one of their songs just sitting in a chair?!

    it's hard as fuck.

    now, try that while flying to the moon on your guitar...

    as crazy as it looks, it's hard to even think of doing with their time changes, and rhythmic diversity.

    personally, i salute them.

  • Actually I find the swimgs help keep in time. As weird as it maybe.

  • as do i (i'm not one for standing still on stage) but there's no way you can swing perfectly in 13/8 time then change back from 5/4 to 7/8 whislt rattling your brain as they do

  • dep aint got shit on meshuggah!!

    But thats just my opinion..

  • closed eye visuals sounded fucking sweet. was ballsy as a motherfucker

  • i don't know why some folks keep comparing DEP with meshuggah. Some comparisons are just incorrect

  • that was pretty funny when the singer was bashing DEP

  • when exactly? I can't find it. :S

  • I've heard Future Breed Machine 1000 times and I just got shivers. That is seriously the heaviest shit.

  • It's nice to see sweeping generalisations and misinformed bigotry are still alive and well on the internet.

  • i just wonder if any of the a-holes posting "this band is better than that one" comments have ever sat down and learned any of their songs

  • I like how you can see the bottom of the screen in the video... :P

    interesting interview

  • two great bands, cant wait to see them

  • great fake backround LOL

  • we're not fans of fans, we're just fans of music! brilliant

  • your band is fucking insane .. you're right jens! :))

  • What is that device that Fredrick uses with his mouth? If someone can reply to me I would like details pls :)

  • It's a talkbox, you blow/talk into it which connects to a device which is in the effects chain of your guitar.

  • Never heard of a thing like that.Cool! Fredrick is a veteran already :) Thanks a lot for the information :)

  • its not quite a talkbox. its a tone controller that you use with your breath. i heard tomas haake's brother made it just for fred, but i dont think he made more. its mad sweet though.

  • fall out whaaaaaat???? :S of bed prolly

  • Jens is waaaaaaaaaaaay stoned, he rocks!

  • is that guy high?

  • I hate the whole 'quote your favorite video part' b/c you just watched the fucking thing, but, "you're band is fucking insane!"...heh heh...that's purty spiffy.

  • Fall out boy should be named Faggot Boy instead.

  • lol. It's like comparing Britney Spears with Vital Remains

  • fall out boy?? haha.. i wiped my ass with their album last week and set it on fire..you cant compare anything to Meshuggah..best metal band ever!

  • indeed they are :)

  • HAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!

  • hahahhahha

    fall out boy???

    hahhaha

    eat a chode mate!

  • Are you kidding? Fall Out Boy is NOT complex OR creative, and nowhere near as fucking heavy as either of these bands!! Take it from a guitar player: Emo/pop-punk bands suck in general and can't even touch these guys. I can't even believe this. I hope you cry when you read this and your eyeliner runs. Gotta give you credit though, for having a Mastodon video on your profile.

  • Is this guy serious?? fall out boy should not even be thought of in the presence of meshuggah. Anyone comparing fall out boy to meshuggah has no idea what he is talking about

  • anyone comparing fall out boy to ANYTHING has no idea what he is talking about, they fucking suck, and are pure garbage, end of story.

  • did you just compare fall out boy to garbage? by your own logic do you have no idea what you are talking about?

  • sorry i suck at youtube comments. i suppose i leave it for the more qualified to duke out...