use a wire trip like those in pin ball machine, use the Wire trip to move the magnets apart via lever/cam as the ball reaches the maximum field density.
@IntenseGreatness Because it'll be useless : the magnets at the end of the ramp are stronger than the magnets at the beginning. If we put magnets all the way around, the ball will stop between the "new"end of the ramp and the beginning. So, it won't make a perpetual motion. Do you understand what I mean ? ;)
Making the ball go all the way upside down is why it's not working... try leaving the ramp underneath the ball. A ramp using magnets to pull it up to the top and then gravity takes it back down and around back to its start position.
You can get a steel ball to move as it enters a progressively stronger and stronger magnetic field, but I guess the trick is to have the ball exit the field without removing from its momentum. Is it possible? I would like to know.
@R0ckR2 This magnet doesn't change anything. I put it here because the magnets are on two different pieces of metal, so I have to put a magnet to join them together.
Great job building this. I have been trying to mount strong magnets close to each other and it is a bitch. They keep flying off or breaking superglue joints. Do you have any tips?
I have a question I need answered. In this model, if you place one ball on the track and it rises to the top, what happens if you place a second ball on the lower track? Does it rise and connect to the first ball and stick, or does it replace the first ball and the first ball fall back down?
@jtalton626 I haven't try.. But I think it won't work. The second ball will stop before hitting the first ball.
Because the orientation of the magnets on the ramp doesn't change: there's the south pole on the right and the nort pole on the left. So, the ball (a magnet) will have the north pole on the right and the south pole on the left... The second ball will have the same orientation. So, the 2 magnets can't hit themselves... Do you see what I mean ? %) (sorry for the english, I'm Swiss..)
Dude it's tight nd all but this is similar to how some trains work or move exept they use some electricity to stop the train or reverse it...so you are a bit behind lol but cool
@SalHuesca Alright first not at all how maglev trains work... they use the same concept as a rail gun, which basically oppositely charges both rails which creates a forward moving magnetic force. All this experiment is is a very powerful magnet up top connected either through steel or weaker magnets so the object will be initially attracted but each stronger magnet pulls it forward. Problem is you eventually can't get a stronger magnet and it's only one way. It's like using a big hill to travel.
you could improve it by having them all as an electro magnet and turn them off when it reaches the top and on at the bottom using reed switches. this would cause a permanent circle
@nemesisdog2 Yes it'll work if I put electro magnet. But if I use electro magnet, I use electricity... So, it won't be a perpetuum mobile. But I try another ramp with a special magnet at the end. I'll show you in several weeks.
now just make it rotate horizontal, leave the empty space between magnets, but make the last largest magnet shielded off its back end and take off that magnet from the top lol.
I'm not sure of that... Because the ball will always go to the higher magnetic field. So, if I shield a magnet, the magnetic field will be lower than an other... But i'm working on an other magnetic ramp with a steel ball. I think it's going to work, but I'll see ;)
You can subscribe to my channel if you like my videos ^^
And sorry for my english.. it isn't very good, but I'm Swiss...
@Magneticitist No I don't think so. I tried a lot of possibilities, but in theory, it's not possible... Because, if you see my ramp, you'll see that there's more magnets at the end of the ramp than at the beginning. With that, the magnet ball accelerate at the beginning because there's a stronger magnetic field just after...
But the ball stop at the end of the ramp because ther'es no more stronger magnetic field...
So, we can't make a perpetuum mobile with this ramp (or I don't know how...)
Seems you've already been beat to it lol. Check out "Perpetuum Mobile - Magnetic Moto - Motor Perpétuo". Looks just like yours,,, hmmm. Try to patent a PPM, and a couple really nice guys in black suits and guns will pay you a visit. Good luck with that.
bah j'ai mis un copyright pour le fun...à la limite, vous pouvez la copier, je m'en fiche^^ de toute manière, c'est pas avec ça qu'on va trouver le mouvement perpétuel^^
Ah et j'ai trouvé un truc sympa hier : je suis arrivé à passer d'un champ magnétique théoriquement plus fort à un moins fort avec une accélération oO
J'ai juste fais une rampe un peu spéciale...et je passe d'une aimantation à 3 aimants de chaque côté à une aimantation à 2 aimants de chaque côté......je compte bien la continuer pour arriver à une aimantation à 1 aimant de chaque côté pour voir ce que ça donne et si j'y arrive^^
Ok ! car si tu arrives à passer1rampe+1autre tu pourrais peut être boucler !car je te fais une confidence j'y suis arrivé ! mais je n'ai pas bouclé car manque d'aimants (commande)...un conseil il faut accélérer la bille et il faut qu'elle franchisse la fin de la rampe et doit reprendre une autre rampe...et là peut être bouclé...
seulement la bille fera peut être plusieurs tours et devrait s'arrêter par démagnétisation..
Bien sinon je fini de compiler un prochain film de plusieurs rampes que j'ai en copyright, car ça y ait je vais vendre une des rampes qui lance des billes de verres (à construire ou monter !) beaucoup plus puissante que les rampes que l'on a monter.... Au fait bravo pour tes expériences !continu ! mes étudiants ne sont pas aussi assidu que toi !! Que la force soit avec toi !!
Ok pour ma rampe, je vais essayer de boucler ! Mais je pense que ta rampe à toi est certainement mieux que la mienne... la mienne est sûrement normale...'fin bref, j'essayerai^^
J'espère voir une vidéo de ta rampe à toi avant de faire la mienne ;)
Ok, I was lookin at minecraft a. Minute ago how did I get here ?
MasterBlizzard106 4 weeks ago
I really don't think you have a copyright on this.
needlermasta 4 months ago
use a wire trip like those in pin ball machine, use the Wire trip to move the magnets apart via lever/cam as the ball reaches the maximum field density.
onthecuttingedge2005 8 months ago
@Syngvir makes sense. Now that i think of it I realize that. Thnx for explaining.
IntenseGreatness 10 months ago
Why not put magnets all the way around?
IntenseGreatness 10 months ago
@IntenseGreatness Because it'll be useless : the magnets at the end of the ramp are stronger than the magnets at the beginning. If we put magnets all the way around, the ball will stop between the "new"end of the ramp and the beginning. So, it won't make a perpetual motion. Do you understand what I mean ? ;)
Syngvir 10 months ago
i will copy this experiment
coco16055 11 months ago
Making the ball go all the way upside down is why it's not working... try leaving the ramp underneath the ball. A ramp using magnets to pull it up to the top and then gravity takes it back down and around back to its start position.
oramandor 1 year ago
Why I can't copy this experiment? DId u really copyrighted this?
geekionizado 1 year ago
@geekionizado No, I didn't. I was young when I post this video xD You can copy it if you want. But it's useless %)
Syngvir 1 year ago
Try putting a magnet on a tv screen and see what happens
TediousAces 1 year ago
You can get a steel ball to move as it enters a progressively stronger and stronger magnetic field, but I guess the trick is to have the ball exit the field without removing from its momentum. Is it possible? I would like to know.
ricktbdgc 1 year ago
I've got a question: What happens, when you remove that big magnet on top of this construction? Won't this be an infinite loop?
R0ckR2 1 year ago
@R0ckR2 This magnet doesn't change anything. I put it here because the magnets are on two different pieces of metal, so I have to put a magnet to join them together.
Syngvir 1 year ago
@R0ckR2 Obviously not... Perpetual motion isn't possible =/.
DrSulfurious 1 year ago
Great job building this. I have been trying to mount strong magnets close to each other and it is a bitch. They keep flying off or breaking superglue joints. Do you have any tips?
michalchik 1 year ago
I have a question I need answered. In this model, if you place one ball on the track and it rises to the top, what happens if you place a second ball on the lower track? Does it rise and connect to the first ball and stick, or does it replace the first ball and the first ball fall back down?
jtalton626 1 year ago
@jtalton626 I haven't try.. But I think it won't work. The second ball will stop before hitting the first ball.
Because the orientation of the magnets on the ramp doesn't change: there's the south pole on the right and the nort pole on the left. So, the ball (a magnet) will have the north pole on the right and the south pole on the left... The second ball will have the same orientation. So, the 2 magnets can't hit themselves... Do you see what I mean ? %) (sorry for the english, I'm Swiss..)
Syngvir 1 year ago
cool
KakHazhar 1 year ago
Dude it's tight nd all but this is similar to how some trains work or move exept they use some electricity to stop the train or reverse it...so you are a bit behind lol but cool
SalHuesca 1 year ago
@SalHuesca I know ;) But it's better to not use electricity ^^ If you use electricity, you won't have a perpetuum mobile^^'
But you can try with permanent magnets %)
Syngvir 1 year ago
@SalHuesca Alright first not at all how maglev trains work... they use the same concept as a rail gun, which basically oppositely charges both rails which creates a forward moving magnetic force. All this experiment is is a very powerful magnet up top connected either through steel or weaker magnets so the object will be initially attracted but each stronger magnet pulls it forward. Problem is you eventually can't get a stronger magnet and it's only one way. It's like using a big hill to travel.
FireBrand975 1 year ago
you could improve it by having them all as an electro magnet and turn them off when it reaches the top and on at the bottom using reed switches. this would cause a permanent circle
nemesisdog2 1 year ago
@nemesisdog2 Yes it'll work if I put electro magnet. But if I use electro magnet, I use electricity... So, it won't be a perpetuum mobile. But I try another ramp with a special magnet at the end. I'll show you in several weeks.
Syngvir 1 year ago
@Syngvir cool beans
nemesisdog2 1 year ago
you were one step away from permanent motion.
now just make it rotate horizontal, leave the empty space between magnets, but make the last largest magnet shielded off its back end and take off that magnet from the top lol.
im fairly sure u already know this though
Magneticitist 1 year ago
@Magneticitist
I'm not sure of that... Because the ball will always go to the higher magnetic field. So, if I shield a magnet, the magnetic field will be lower than an other... But i'm working on an other magnetic ramp with a steel ball. I think it's going to work, but I'll see ;)
You can subscribe to my channel if you like my videos ^^
And sorry for my english.. it isn't very good, but I'm Swiss...
Syngvir 1 year ago
@Syngvir so the ball couldn't be slingshotted by the force of momentum and the loop repeated? i will subscribe, very nice work
Magneticitist 1 year ago
@Magneticitist No I don't think so. I tried a lot of possibilities, but in theory, it's not possible... Because, if you see my ramp, you'll see that there's more magnets at the end of the ramp than at the beginning. With that, the magnet ball accelerate at the beginning because there's a stronger magnetic field just after...
But the ball stop at the end of the ramp because ther'es no more stronger magnetic field...
So, we can't make a perpetuum mobile with this ramp (or I don't know how...)
Syngvir 1 year ago
We can copy it if we want because i doubt that u got a patent or actually registered it for a copyright soooo...HA!!!
julianthemastercheif 1 year ago
@julianthemastercheif
Yes, you can. But it's totally uselss. Because we can't do anything with that. Only a "toy"
Syngvir 1 year ago
Why not copy this experement
borisSmackdown17 2 years ago
Why not ? ^^
You can copy it. I wrote that because I think I can make an perpetuum mobile with that. But no^^'
Syngvir 1 year ago
break in the flux?
kingdjay13 2 years ago
Seems you've already been beat to it lol. Check out "Perpetuum Mobile - Magnetic Moto - Motor Perpétuo". Looks just like yours,,, hmmm. Try to patent a PPM, and a couple really nice guys in black suits and guns will pay you a visit. Good luck with that.
shortyskaraoke 2 years ago
This ramp can't be a perpetum mobile because there's a stick spot...
So, "the nice guys in black suits" won't kill me ;)
But, I'm going to work on a motor with a V-ramp... if you want to see it, subscribe to my channel ;)
Syngvir 2 years ago
This has been flagged as spam show
good work man!
uneasyinfo 2 years ago
you can't copyright an experiment, you tool.
geoffreylalonde 2 years ago 2
Wep, j'ai vu ! Magnifiques ces rampes !
Ok pour la protection...mais montre-nous une fois que tu auras mis le brevet dessus^^
Mais dis-moi, la rampe que tu vas vendre, elle sera commercialisée en Suisse ou pas ???
Syngvir 2 years ago
Good ramp
Flupify 2 years ago
Don't copy this experiment....nobody in his right mind would.
Rotitomato 2 years ago
Bravo ! tu gagnes ton premier grade de Padawan
tu comprends maintenant l'accélération ! tu vois la ténacité paye ! ...Pour ce qui est du copyright !! tu sais le net ?????? encore bravo
gilbondfac 2 years ago
bah j'ai mis un copyright pour le fun...à la limite, vous pouvez la copier, je m'en fiche^^ de toute manière, c'est pas avec ça qu'on va trouver le mouvement perpétuel^^
Ah et j'ai trouvé un truc sympa hier : je suis arrivé à passer d'un champ magnétique théoriquement plus fort à un moins fort avec une accélération oO
Syngvir 2 years ago
donc tu passes deux rampes
gilbondfac 2 years ago
comment ça je passe 2 rampe ????
J'ai juste fais une rampe un peu spéciale...et je passe d'une aimantation à 3 aimants de chaque côté à une aimantation à 2 aimants de chaque côté......je compte bien la continuer pour arriver à une aimantation à 1 aimant de chaque côté pour voir ce que ça donne et si j'y arrive^^
Syngvir 2 years ago
Ok ! car si tu arrives à passer1rampe+1autre tu pourrais peut être boucler !car je te fais une confidence j'y suis arrivé ! mais je n'ai pas bouclé car manque d'aimants (commande)...un conseil il faut accélérer la bille et il faut qu'elle franchisse la fin de la rampe et doit reprendre une autre rampe...et là peut être bouclé...
seulement la bille fera peut être plusieurs tours et devrait s'arrêter par démagnétisation..
gilbondfac 2 years ago
Bien sinon je fini de compiler un prochain film de plusieurs rampes que j'ai en copyright, car ça y ait je vais vendre une des rampes qui lance des billes de verres (à construire ou monter !) beaucoup plus puissante que les rampes que l'on a monter.... Au fait bravo pour tes expériences !continu ! mes étudiants ne sont pas aussi assidu que toi !! Que la force soit avec toi !!
gilbondfac 2 years ago
Ok pour ma rampe, je vais essayer de boucler ! Mais je pense que ta rampe à toi est certainement mieux que la mienne... la mienne est sûrement normale...'fin bref, j'essayerai^^
J'espère voir une vidéo de ta rampe à toi avant de faire la mienne ;)
Syngvir 2 years ago
Je me réjoui d'avance de voir toutes ces rampes !!!
Dis voir, elles seront en ventes, ok... mais aussi en Suisse ou pas ? car je vais l'acheter si ça rentre dans mes moyens ;)
Et merci par rapport à mon assiduité ! ;)
Et je vais encore agrandir mes connaissances en la matière : je vais commander un gros livre sur le magnétisme+l'électricité^^
Ah et je voulais vraiment te remercier ! Si je suis arrivé à faire ça, c'est grâce à toi !
Syngvir 2 years ago
Merci !
pour les rampes qui éventuellement bouclent ! ce n'est pas pour ma
gilbondfac 2 years ago
bizarre ça a coupé?
bon bref trop important pour mettre ces rampes sans les protéger mais par contre ce soir tu verras le style de rampes que j'ai utilisé !
gilbondfac 2 years ago