Bubka still has the best take off of anyone ever and it's amazing how he continues to load energy into the pole after he leaves the ground using his shoulders and abs. One of my highlights as a vaulter was meeting him at Bruce Jenner classic in San Jose. I picked up one of those huge poles he used. That dude was a stud.
Just look at his feet, did he actually JUMP ?, no, its just the bent pole that took him over. Its the modern design of such flexi pole that took him over. Try the 1967 vaulting pole and see the difference. clearing 6 Meter , no way
@tstteh There is a very clear advantage to using the new fiberglass poles and nobody argues that. The advantage of it is however, is the ability to get yourself onto a bigger pole. If you vault then that needs no further explanation, but if you don't then I'd be glad to explain it to you if you'd like. It is an illusion that the pole actually springs you above it substantially. It does have a bit of a kick, but only a very small amount. My point is that the vaulting form hasn't changed,
@tstteh There is a very clear advantage to using the new fiberglass poles and nobody argues that. The advantage of it is however, is the ability to get yourself onto a bigger pole. If you vault then that needs no further explanation, but if you don't then I'd be glad to explain it to you if you'd like. It is an illusion that the pole actually springs you above it substantially. It does have a bit of a kick, but only a very small amount. My point is that the vaulting form hasn't changed,
@hertz688 its definitely not an illusion. (Yes i vault) The pole has an enormous kick! If you don't feel it then you're not using the pole efficiently. I have felt this only a few times and even on a soft pole there is a huge kick if you use the pole efficiently. The point of vaulting isn't on getting on bigger poles, its to make the energy you put into the pole work as efficiently as possible. Thats what Bubka did and of course being on big poles helps but its not the main point of vaulting.
@twixbar hertz688 is right on when he says that the vaulting form has not changed, at least in Bubka's case. Petrov's model of pole vaulting focuses on the same techniques used when using a straight pole because it is the most effective way to transfer the potential energy from the run into kinetic energy in the pole. Yes, there is a 'kick', which allows the vaulter to jump above his grip, but it is the bigger poles that makes the vaulter go higher. And by the way, Bubka's largest pole was 5.20m
the difference comes in the length of the pole. Back in the day people straight-poled 12'6'' poles, where now the pros are on ~17' poles, with the exception of Bubka who (correct me if I'm wrong) used something along the lines of a 18' pole. It's those 4-5' that make the difference, not the fact that their form has changed.
@hertz688 definitely not an 18 foot pole... not even close, his pole wasn't even 17 feet long. At most his pole was 5.10m long (16'9"). and yes form changed. Straight pole technique is very different from fiberglass technique.
@twixbar nah bubka was on a 17 foot pole. Go to: /watch?v=-jQiqUrN92Y&feature=related at about 30 sec they mention that he's on a 5.20m. I remember hearing somewhere that he once tried a 18 foot pole but he couldn't get it to work for him. Idk if that's true though. Either way, he was on some crazy poles.
@jfp521 "Take-off during which the vaulter does not experience pole resistance is a free take-off." In other words, most guys are afraid to leave the ground until the pole is bent to their liking. Once you feel the pole bend you know you are going to be okay. Leaping off of the ground before the pole is even bent feels unnatural and is a scary thing to do.
July 13, 1985, a Saturday ... Awesome day for many thangs: Bubka 6 m feat, Live Aid, first day George Bush served as President of the US, the Greatful Dead playing near a fire on a mountain and ash falling from the sky, and me finding my first love. A day and summer I'll never forget ...
Sergei Bubka still hold's the world record in both indoor and outdoor I believe. Also people might want to know that the "free take-off" is a myth. His pole is always in the back of the box before he leaves the ground. Ask an Olympian, or other people who vaulted with him.
@choirbassbari It's not a myth, he is jumping before the pole hits the back of the box but it is only milliseconds so it is hard to notice. Watch the video again and notice that his pole does not begin to bend until after he jumps off the ground.
@MrPDizz I will respect your opinion, though i was told by a man who jumped with and against Bubka that the free take off is a myth. It certainly makes some logic. But I personally understand the value of not being yanked by the pole from experience and am inclined to agree with my reference.
@choirbassbari i have trained with a man who vaulted with bubka on the russian olympic team and he completely supports the free takeoff theory. its not a myth
@giantsjm21 alright then, i'll take your word for it, it's not a hill worth dying on. It is at least though, a very advanced concept in the vault. at least in my opinion. The precision required is nearly inhuman. And I would not feel safe attempting it without every other aspect near perfection. Also I don't think it would be worth it if every other aspect was nearly perfect. What is your (or the man you trained with, or coaches, or whatever) opinion on that?
@choirbassbari it is a very advanced aspect of the vault. to executte it correctly requires amazing core and upper body strength, not to mention an amazing run which must end with perfect timing. if your takeoff and plant are close to simultaneous, you have done a good job.
@choirbassbari only a fool would say the free take-off is a myth. It is the undoing of many of history's great vaulters (as in, because they didn't have one, they didn't jump to their true potential). For one, use your eyes and you can see it. But it's okay, I remember when I first started vaulting, i didn't think much of it either. But from a physics stand-point, it makes a ton of sense. -6P
can some1 please help me i keep watching this and i look for ways that i can improve my inversion and i always thought that u break your left arm before inverting so u can get your hips up but he is able to get his hips up and start to get inverted but he doesnt have to break his bottom arm how does he do this? i cant seem to figure it out.
@gbthebeast32 im guessing that bubka's able to keep hif left arm straight and continue to invert because he's using a 17ft pole therefore he has the room to keep his left arm straight to delay the bend until he inverts. i suggest adjusting ur bottom arm according to the amount of bend and the length of the pole
@gbthebeast32 honestly there's a lot of factors like pole length , arm length and etc but i'd say you'd have to keep your left arm bent all the way cause holding a 13"6' grip would'nt give you a lot of time to invert since the pole will recoil faster being a 170 . i'm using a 15"160 holding 14"8' which i guess gives me more time to invert not having to worry much about my left arm but i do try and keep my left arm a little bent .
@coffeecup212121 free take off is what im talking about. Depending on how you define "his mark" he's not behind it. My point was he is taking off from exactly where he wants to be taking off from. Its not like he behind the area he wanted to be. I even said he does this on "purpose" the only reason I didn't use the term "free take off" is because not vaulter knows what that is. and a free takeoff does exactly the things that i mentioned so what exactly am I wrong about?
No he wasn't behind his mark at all. He took off before the pole hits the back on purpose. You can do that and it will really set you up to have a vicious swing and it brings energy into the pole very early. I think a key thing for that technique is realizing that you have to jump and push upward. Many people dot focus on jumping up they focus on going straight through sort of, probably because they're focused on the bending it.
Bubka still has the best take off of anyone ever and it's amazing how he continues to load energy into the pole after he leaves the ground using his shoulders and abs. One of my highlights as a vaulter was meeting him at Bruce Jenner classic in San Jose. I picked up one of those huge poles he used. That dude was a stud.
baguafitness 3 months ago
he did not even push himself up in the handstand position. He just let go off the pole and flied over
zzxcrozzy 6 months ago
Just look at his feet, did he actually JUMP ?, no, its just the bent pole that took him over. Its the modern design of such flexi pole that took him over. Try the 1967 vaulting pole and see the difference. clearing 6 Meter , no way
tstteh 7 months ago
@tstteh If you've ever pole vaulted, you'd know you have to jump.
seanster265 7 months ago 4
@tstteh There is a very clear advantage to using the new fiberglass poles and nobody argues that. The advantage of it is however, is the ability to get yourself onto a bigger pole. If you vault then that needs no further explanation, but if you don't then I'd be glad to explain it to you if you'd like. It is an illusion that the pole actually springs you above it substantially. It does have a bit of a kick, but only a very small amount. My point is that the vaulting form hasn't changed,
hertz688 5 months ago
@tstteh There is a very clear advantage to using the new fiberglass poles and nobody argues that. The advantage of it is however, is the ability to get yourself onto a bigger pole. If you vault then that needs no further explanation, but if you don't then I'd be glad to explain it to you if you'd like. It is an illusion that the pole actually springs you above it substantially. It does have a bit of a kick, but only a very small amount. My point is that the vaulting form hasn't changed,
hertz688 5 months ago
@hertz688 its definitely not an illusion. (Yes i vault) The pole has an enormous kick! If you don't feel it then you're not using the pole efficiently. I have felt this only a few times and even on a soft pole there is a huge kick if you use the pole efficiently. The point of vaulting isn't on getting on bigger poles, its to make the energy you put into the pole work as efficiently as possible. Thats what Bubka did and of course being on big poles helps but its not the main point of vaulting.
twixbar 3 months ago
@twixbar hertz688 is right on when he says that the vaulting form has not changed, at least in Bubka's case. Petrov's model of pole vaulting focuses on the same techniques used when using a straight pole because it is the most effective way to transfer the potential energy from the run into kinetic energy in the pole. Yes, there is a 'kick', which allows the vaulter to jump above his grip, but it is the bigger poles that makes the vaulter go higher. And by the way, Bubka's largest pole was 5.20m
PRinthePV 1 month ago
the difference comes in the length of the pole. Back in the day people straight-poled 12'6'' poles, where now the pros are on ~17' poles, with the exception of Bubka who (correct me if I'm wrong) used something along the lines of a 18' pole. It's those 4-5' that make the difference, not the fact that their form has changed.
hertz688 5 months ago
@hertz688 definitely not an 18 foot pole... not even close, his pole wasn't even 17 feet long. At most his pole was 5.10m long (16'9"). and yes form changed. Straight pole technique is very different from fiberglass technique.
twixbar 3 months ago
@twixbar nah bubka was on a 17 foot pole. Go to: /watch?v=-jQiqUrN92Y&feature=related at about 30 sec they mention that he's on a 5.20m. I remember hearing somewhere that he once tried a 18 foot pole but he couldn't get it to work for him. Idk if that's true though. Either way, he was on some crazy poles.
spawlak86 2 months ago
might i suggest the rocky theme song
akeva 9 months ago
what is free takeoff?
jfp521 9 months ago
@jfp521 "Take-off during which the vaulter does not experience pole resistance is a free take-off." In other words, most guys are afraid to leave the ground until the pole is bent to their liking. Once you feel the pole bend you know you are going to be okay. Leaping off of the ground before the pole is even bent feels unnatural and is a scary thing to do.
bolognadetector 8 months ago
July 13, 1985, a Saturday ... Awesome day for many thangs: Bubka 6 m feat, Live Aid, first day George Bush served as President of the US, the Greatful Dead playing near a fire on a mountain and ash falling from the sky, and me finding my first love. A day and summer I'll never forget ...
robfergusonjr 10 months ago 2
@daghost9 yes. the record is 6.15 meters held by bubka
giantsjm21 10 months ago
I stop the video 0.12sec and just think WTF this guy is doing :D is he somkind of upside down rocket man ?!
osmium88 1 year ago 7
Sergei Bubka still hold's the world record in both indoor and outdoor I believe. Also people might want to know that the "free take-off" is a myth. His pole is always in the back of the box before he leaves the ground. Ask an Olympian, or other people who vaulted with him.
choirbassbari 1 year ago
@choirbassbari It's not a myth, he is jumping before the pole hits the back of the box but it is only milliseconds so it is hard to notice. Watch the video again and notice that his pole does not begin to bend until after he jumps off the ground.
MrPDizz 1 year ago
@MrPDizz I will respect your opinion, though i was told by a man who jumped with and against Bubka that the free take off is a myth. It certainly makes some logic. But I personally understand the value of not being yanked by the pole from experience and am inclined to agree with my reference.
choirbassbari 1 year ago
@choirbassbari i have trained with a man who vaulted with bubka on the russian olympic team and he completely supports the free takeoff theory. its not a myth
giantsjm21 10 months ago
@giantsjm21 alright then, i'll take your word for it, it's not a hill worth dying on. It is at least though, a very advanced concept in the vault. at least in my opinion. The precision required is nearly inhuman. And I would not feel safe attempting it without every other aspect near perfection. Also I don't think it would be worth it if every other aspect was nearly perfect. What is your (or the man you trained with, or coaches, or whatever) opinion on that?
choirbassbari 10 months ago
@choirbassbari it is a very advanced aspect of the vault. to executte it correctly requires amazing core and upper body strength, not to mention an amazing run which must end with perfect timing. if your takeoff and plant are close to simultaneous, you have done a good job.
giantsjm21 10 months ago
@choirbassbari only a fool would say the free take-off is a myth. It is the undoing of many of history's great vaulters (as in, because they didn't have one, they didn't jump to their true potential). For one, use your eyes and you can see it. But it's okay, I remember when I first started vaulting, i didn't think much of it either. But from a physics stand-point, it makes a ton of sense. -6P
joebro391 9 months ago
great! He is superman.
amp3cx10000a7jp 1 year ago
can some1 please help me i keep watching this and i look for ways that i can improve my inversion and i always thought that u break your left arm before inverting so u can get your hips up but he is able to get his hips up and start to get inverted but he doesnt have to break his bottom arm how does he do this? i cant seem to figure it out.
gbthebeast32 1 year ago
@gbthebeast32 im guessing that bubka's able to keep hif left arm straight and continue to invert because he's using a 17ft pole therefore he has the room to keep his left arm straight to delay the bend until he inverts. i suggest adjusting ur bottom arm according to the amount of bend and the length of the pole
kingofnicke 1 year ago
@kingofnicke what should it be at? i ahve a 14" 170 pole and i hold at around 13"6'
gbthebeast32 1 year ago
@gbthebeast32 honestly there's a lot of factors like pole length , arm length and etc but i'd say you'd have to keep your left arm bent all the way cause holding a 13"6' grip would'nt give you a lot of time to invert since the pole will recoil faster being a 170 . i'm using a 15"160 holding 14"8' which i guess gives me more time to invert not having to worry much about my left arm but i do try and keep my left arm a little bent .
kingofnicke 1 year ago
@coffeecup212121 free take off is what im talking about. Depending on how you define "his mark" he's not behind it. My point was he is taking off from exactly where he wants to be taking off from. Its not like he behind the area he wanted to be. I even said he does this on "purpose" the only reason I didn't use the term "free take off" is because not vaulter knows what that is. and a free takeoff does exactly the things that i mentioned so what exactly am I wrong about?
buonoxc 1 year ago
I must have watched this almost 100 times, and it just never gets old...
PRinthePV 1 year ago 3
it's all in the technique and absence of fear....the greatest vaulter of all time
yellcarreon 1 year ago
No he wasn't behind his mark at all. He took off before the pole hits the back on purpose. You can do that and it will really set you up to have a vicious swing and it brings energy into the pole very early. I think a key thing for that technique is realizing that you have to jump and push upward. Many people dot focus on jumping up they focus on going straight through sort of, probably because they're focused on the bending it.
buonoxc 1 year ago
o snap!
BeefyCarrot 1 year ago
dang he was behind his mark and did that; my computer stopped the video perfectly to see that
die0my0jay 1 year ago
He was very aggressive at take-off..had good momentum and acceleration
hansdebartolo3 1 year ago
what a beast! ridiculous free take off
bschrecko 1 year ago
awesome video!!!
discgolfer550 2 years ago
look at his free take off, its pretty impressive
pvcarney 2 years ago 5
definitely
wurster2008 2 years ago