Delusion. It's not until you are truly honest with yourself, how all of this makes absolutely no sense. It's ridiculous to think that this perfect god would make us in his image and then not expect us to use our critical thinking. Even when I believed, I couldn't understand many devout people, so disconnected from nature. Now I know why, because religions like this teach such hatred. That we are above all on this wretched earth and not a PART of something beautiful and wonderful. What a waste.
@doomheart2001 Then tell me if "Ever Knee shall bend n every head shall bow" then who Jesus was praying "bowing n prostrating" to? Who was he was worshiping? Was Jesus god or the "son of god?! By saying "son" Are you claiming God sired/begot Jesus a child from Mary?!God is not begotten nor does He have any need to beget! God is the Creator God created Jesus miraculously without a male intervention! God is the self subsisting, self Existing, Eternal(can not die), the Formless, Unseen, Unique one!
@doomheart2001 Then tell me if "Ever Knee shall bend n every head shall bow" then who Jesus was praying "bowing n prostrating" to? Who was he was worshiping? Was Jesus god or the "son of god?! By saying "son" Are you claiming God sired/begot Jesus a child from Mary?!God is not begotten nor does He have any need to beget! God is the Creator God created Jesus miraculously without a male intervention! God is the self subsisting, self Existing, Eternal(can not die), the Formless, Unseen, Unique one!
@doomheart2001 Then tell me if "Ever Knee shall bend n every head shall bow" then who Jesus was praying "bowing n prostrating" to? Who was he was worshiping? Was Jesus god or the "son of god?! By saying "son" Are you claiming God sired/begot Jesus a child from Mary?!God is not begotten nor does He have any need to beget! God is the Creator God created Jesus miraculously without a male intervention! God is the self subsisting, self Existing, Eternal(can not die), the Formless, Unseen, Unique one!
all the message(no god expect him) God save the Quran because it is the last book and it will remain until the Day of Resurrection, and because god will not send a prophet after Muhammad to fit what would happen to the distortion of the Koran) no one could say quran change the original source in four country it is matches with all all over the world
the quran says that there is no tribe, land or people that god didn't send a messenger to.
these are the prophets of which god mentioned because they are mentioned in the bible but without the true stories of theirs. god mentioned them to correct their stories of which the writers of the bible fabricated. otherwise, he sent others.
This is because of Mohammad's selfish thinking to become the prophet and also of muslims wishful thinking to fake their religion as supreme.Islam is one of the most filthiest,fake,violent,death cult u will ever find.All those who say islam is peace r just talking shit.Mohammad was a criminal.if he lived today he wud b in jail or given death sentence.
The makerof this vid is stupid, as well as u r cuz of uploading this crap. And u call a free thinker?! If u 'r truly a free thinker, get a quran and read it and stop thinking of pleasuring yourself and pleasing your desires and look around u. Lokk at the sky, the sun, the moon, the stars, the sea, the animals, the automobiles,... i would keep going for ever. Look at yourself. your external and internal self.
Uknow what?! After mid-night, pary for almighty GOD to guid you
The Israelites have rejected your covenant, broken down your altars, and put your prophets to death with the sword. I am the only one left, and now they are trying to kill me too
Kings 1 19:9
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All day long they distort my words; All their thoughts are against me for evil
he sent a letter to every kingdom, some sent gifts, a few laughed and ripped the invitation to accept worship to ONE God. the world is not ready for one god, free thinker. for that means, we are all equal, and must submit to God. and it means, for the most part, we have made grave sins and we cannot blame it on Adam and Eve peace be upon them, nor can we gain retribution by proclaiming Jesus is our God and savior, we must work on it. we must pray. we must live better,learn. r u ready 4 that??
prophet zoraster (zardusht) was also a prophet, and the monotheist worshippers of ahura mazda, came to welcome the birth of Isa Messiah peace be upon him. however have you forgotten how people treat prophets? for greed, for power, they tried to kill messengers of peace. this is people for you, when God sends them a word and guidance, they time and time again corrupted it.that is why the last prophet is held in such high esteem..he was sent to preach to THE WORLD not just to one region.
This guy is the dumbest guy iv listened to in a longlong time ''its like saying its true because it says its true'' Go back to worshiping science, man evolved from apes coincidentally, so why didnt parrots evolve into manbirds you dumb ****
و المفكر الحر يجب أن يكون محايداً في آرائه و أن يطرح المعلومات من مصادرها !!
ثم إن الله حفظ القرآن من التحريف لأنه تكفل بحفظه و ذلك عكس باقي الكتب التي لم يتعهد الله بحفظها لأنه أوكل حفظها للبشر فلم يؤدوا الأمانة فأوكل حفظ كتابه الأخير إلى نفسه قبل أن تطرح شبهات يجب عليك أن تبحث عن ردودها يا صغيري
ثم إنه عندما أرسل هؤلاء الرسل لم تكتشف باقي القارات بعد لذلك لا تستغرب أن الله أرسلهم في الشرق الأوسط
well, mosa, or Moses was sent to Egypt. proof? the Nile river isn't in the middle east is it? and its clearly stated that to every nation a prophet was sent to guide them in the quran. and this world is a test of belief. any religion should be debated with seriousness because its a serious matter. making fun of a religion only promotes ignorance. please think a bit more before posting a video.
The matter of the fact is that the Jews (Sons of Isaac) were chosen to guide humanity but they became arrogant and started to believe that they were superior to all mankind. They even rewrote the Torah to justify that only they can be believers and the rest of humanity is like cattle. God sent many Prophets before he ultimately ended Prophethood in a non-Jewish Prophet.
Thanks for the video. In islam we believe that there were 124,000 prophets in total send to mankind. Only 25 of those are mentioned in the Quran. As for the statement that messengers should have been sent to a few more places. The Quran states, in chapter 10 verse 27: "To every people (was sent) an Messenger", thus every single nation on earth from the beginning of time was sent a messenger. We also beleive that the last messenger was given the Quran, as a final testament to Mankind.
what a stupid are you ! god give man freevil . so mostly like you people become evil . they change the books god didnot . they worship stones god did not say to them . its human who courapt the pure religon of one god thats why time by time he send prophet to remind them !
for someone who calls himself a free thinker you are quite the opposite. atheists think that they think freely no religion no mind restrictions yet they follow theories made by men by the letter and with no proof. do you know why not to believe in god ?
do you even know from where came atheism ? and why ? you have been led to believe that there is no god so you loose concept of right or wrong and you loose yourself to desires and become an easy prey for satan. satan is atheism's origin thinker
he calls that red spot "the middle east". i call it the centre of the world. messengers have been sent to all parts of the world, why it is so unbelievable that over a period of thousands of years it could be completly corrupted. the religion of the one god is the oldest religion. you either believe in a higher power or you dont, all acient worlds believed in a higher power of some sort, that obviously comes from some truth. wether they prayer to a stone a tree or the sun. behind it all is God.
What kind of spirit is behind a "religion" fills it's followers with complete resolve as to what to DISbelieve? Whatever Muhammad's followers DO believe about the Messiah, WILL REMAIN IRRELEVANT, as long as they reject - indeed blaspheme - the blood of the Lamb of God, that would save them. The WHOLE SUBJECT of the Gospel.
You know how rationale inquiry works right? You first need to properly familiarize yourself with the subject matter before you attempt to draw conclusions.
The entire basis of this video is silly because about 15 seconds into the video you made your first wrong conclusion based on your ignorance of the topic you are trying to critique.
"They intend to put out the Light of Allah with their mouths, but Allah will not allow it except that His Light is perfected even though the disbelievers hate it" At Tawbah :32
all the answer to your quastion r, answered in the holy quran. just go with you quastion to quran you ll get the wohl answers.
i give you an example, what did the kews has done to prophet jesus p.b.u.o.h ? prophet jesus told the jews that their fathers has misguided but the jews has tryed to kill him.! 2.look the orginal bible in hebrew and in midle east ! 3. read the quran and look the "muslim " they are not following quran, they do everything forbiding.. so you can see how people disbelive
learn to ask question without using your stupid condescending tone, because not only it shows that you stupid, but also it shows that your stupidity of a complex nature, where you even don't know about it.
also at that time what civilization that we know off was developed enough to have read. books were rather irrelevant to most humanity who most of them could not actually read. Middle east was the center of the world and sending book their is enough for all humanity. can you imagine that even though middle east was relatively intellectual comparing the rest of the world their God books as largely exclusive to small educated elite so why sending books to the rest of the world, sorry u r failure!
Very Superficial video indeed. Its obvious that you have not even think about the question, rather laid out all your first thoughts in condescending way. as quick answer to you. Christiane them selves believe that their books were no written by GOD. and Qur'an is not corrupted because it has not been change since ever, and No one has the ability to write anything like, try if you can! do a better research, all your questions unfortunately are silly!!
LOL, again my man you fail. God mentioned just 25 prophets in the Quran, these ones were the men who faced most hardships, These men delivered the message of Tawheed "the nature to believe in only the Creator, as being worthy of worship".
God gives humans the free will or choice to believe or not. its on them. But the rejecters of good, will always see the opposite. Thats the test. simple, but yet hard for the arrogant. Buddha couldve have been a prophet of God, but again theres no hadith 4 that
Lol. This video is flawed. Read this: "And verily, We have sent among every Ummah (community, nation) a Messenger (proclaiming): "Worship Allah (Alone)..." (Qur'ân 16:36) You have only mentioned a few Prophets here. There were over 124,000 Prophets of Islam sent out, but the Qur'an only mentions the 25 most important, for their stories give us the lessons by which we must live in our every day lives. Of the 25, the most important are the 5, Prophets Noah, Abraham, Moses, Jesus, and Muhammad.
@strangestdude I quoted it before. "And verily, We have sent among every Ummah (community, nation) a Messenger (proclaiming): "Worship Allah (Alone)..." (Qur'ân 16:36)
The fastest birth rate and conversion rate in uneducated countries of all religions, agreed.
However, the correlation between religious belief and education is negative (the more people are educated, the less they are likely to be religious). This says much about the brains needed to be a believer.
The qu'ran, when studied from outside the religious bubble, is flagrantly inaccurate. If you have to believe in something for it to make sense, then it's a delusion.
@xaviola4 Not to mention all the people that frankly, your book doesn't even acknowledge exist that were around way before the 6000 year ago approximate date of "Adam" being created, but for whom we have actual calendars, earlier religions, cave drawings, fossils, etc. Nah, but you go ahead pretending you have a perfect text. And sure, you'll have to ignore the ultrasound as it shows most of the bones ossifying after the muscles are there. And try to ignore the further stars/galaxies.
@xaviola4 He wanted to test 4500 + years of Native Americans, Australian Aborigines, South Africans, Chinese/other East Asians, Indians, and Northern Europeans by sending prophets to people who never talk to them and giving them a message that's pretty silly sounding to the un-initiated? Just so he can punish them with the least equitable punishment ever, eternal hell....What a dick! I'm glad your god doesn't exist, because if he did, he'd be the biggest meanest dick in the world.
Allah orders its followers to work like there is no end to the life, and pray like you are about to die. which implies that always question and never say "miracle of god". but always know that from the smallest particle to the entire universe god owns, god created, god ordered.
false interpretations of the almightys words may create a false reflection of religion causing a loss of faith. I advise you to find quran and read it, never fall in such fallacies created by haters.
"if god is so righteous why all of the suffering?"
Quran teaches that this world is just a mere resting place, like you take a moment to sit beneath a tree benefiting from its shadow. considering to eternal life awaits on the otherside..
and again, everything is in that world is created to fit in a logic that everything is in a natural order hiding the god's touch. which eventually elects the rotten apples who defy god.
- quran also says that muhammad is the last prophet
- according to holy book every diffuculity on earth is a challenge prepared by god itself to test if its creation, who defiled their revered position in high heavens, worthy enough to be along with it once again. which includes your question about why all the prophets poped up in same place. no one is holding you back to accept the righteous path. its been always there, you ignored it.
its up to you to walk the path and see it with your own eyes.
its not up to me to force you into this path. as quran says "we(God) do not give you the responsibility to show them disbelievers the path" "those who search for miracles, haven't we shown you enough?"
"God is allforgiving, even in last breath yielding to its awesome power is enough for we to forgive you about your past"
this is my righteous path, might be a self one but its mine.
look if you were really nterested in all the answers to these questions i got them but i know this isnt a discussion, rather a dictation of 1 ignorant view about a vast and important subject
the point for or the prophets is so that people like you have no excuse on the day of judgment for your ignorance. and there was a last prophet muhammad pbuh so thats it no more prophets... and 124,000 is alot to name all of them. perhaps a book all in its own. and yes all the religons were corrupted exept the last message
"Indeed, We have sent you with the truth as a bringer of good tidings and a warner. And there was no nation but that there had passed within it a warner." [Al-Quran 35:24]
This video is very misleading. The wikipedia page explains that God sent messengers or Prophets to all people, the list shown in this video, are only the ones specifically named in the Holy Qu'ran. Is like claiming there are only 11 footballers in England, those who are named in the England football team.
However, saying that all God had to do was create the forces means he never acted upon anything else afterwards. So he did not dictate a book to anyone.
While I admit your hypothesis is plausible, because it cannot be proven, I can say it is pure conjecture.
Especially knowing egyptians and their habit of recording EVERYTHING. From the changes in grain prices to the names of Pharaohs. Strange how nothing changed suddenly due to animals or children dying from the plagues though.
The universe could have been different if the forces involved had been different. How similar to the spot can that be?
We did not come about by chance. We came about through physical processes coming from those forces. However, how the forces came about themselves is yet unknown. "I don't know" = "chance"?
Not if all the possibilites exist at once (i.e: multiverse)
My theory doesn't rely on chance as much as it relies on physical concepts: the Universe isn't well-built for us: we are well-evolved for the universe. It happened, we are here. Once we do exist, chance no longer counts.
All of the universe relies on four forces. The rest is just the result of those forces interacting. If the forces were a little bit different, out Universe, too, would be. How different, I can only imagine.
You're right: you think the Universe could only have happened one way. I think it could have had many outcomes. I agree. I also support the multiverse hypothesis because of this idea.
The theories are attempts at knowing why that splash of paint is exactly as it is, because now that it is there, we can't change it. Nobody wants to recreate the Universe. We all want to know how it got there.
Now, I took the paint spash example because it is something that uses so many unknown factors that the chances of it being so is mininal. Just like the Universe.
You might say that the splash of paint was done by a human, but would you say it was part of a design? So, then, would you say that simply having a low percentage of existing means design by default? Now, please stop using "chance" as it's a mathematical concept that doesn't exist in the real world.
Nope: Something happened, and our universe came into existence.
I threw a bucket of paint and a spot came into existence.
What are the chances of the universe being just as it is?
What are the chances of the spot being just as it is?
Without trying to recreate my example, you could calculate the chances of the spot being accurately the one that just happened to form on my first try. That exact same spot's probability is infinitesimal. The spot is still there. So's the Universe.
What I find rather surprising is how the qu'ran explains the Big Crunch, a scientific hypothesis now rejected by the scientific community.
Now, here's what I ask of you. Use the qu'ran to make a scientific prediction. An accurate depiction of something that has not yet been found. Then, have some researchers look out for your "discovery". If knowledge part is found in the qu'ran before it is found in science, I'll accept it as you do.
Le me give you an example: I throw a bucket of paint against the wall. It makes an odd-shaped spot.
Now, how many buckets would I need to throw to repeat the exact same spot? Millions? Billions? Does it matter? Of course not! I still did it in one try!
Percentages are worth nothing AFTER the fact. Because by then, the chance is 100%
The only prophet of Islam I see is that so called muhammad. Other than the false prophet with two horns like a lamb which is clearly the false muslim Jesus, also known as the abomination of desolation.
I'm an agnostic atheist: I think gods do not exist, but am willing to change my stance if someone brings me proof. That makes me reasonable.
You're the one saying leprechauns exist without bringing proof. I say I don't know.
I'm an APE, not a monkey, and so are you. Monkeys are a subfamily of apes. Homosapiens too.
Seems science is on Satan's side in that argument. I guess ignorance has too often won over great minds, so Allah's ignorant army might indeed be more powerful.
I stated my argument because you seemed to think your form of government is better. Saying "You're like me" says that Islam does as poorly as secularism.
I do not call any soldier a hero. The one that dies with his body alone: idiot. The one that dies in a tank: idiot. Any (or both) of them kill someone: idiots.
You stick to an unprovable belief: *fill in the blank*
I do not have to disprove leprechauns: you have to prove they exist. Same thing applies for God (unless you also believe in leprechauns because no one ever disproved them?)
So, you want special privileges other people cannot have because they do not worship your version of skydaddy. This is the main reason secularism works: because else, everyone would get their privileges based on their skydad, and rights wouldn't be equal.
I stand for life. My information comes from what I can learn and prove. Your information comes from a god you cannot prove (i.e: your imagination).
Fact is, you could not tell my precise birthplace even if you and a few hundred muslims prayed to Allah together. Because "Allah" cannot know informations that you do not know.
You are using this argument to justify evil. Let me ask you this: Does Allah have enough power to do the good he tries to hide behind the calamity without causing the calamity itself?
If he does, then he causes unnecessary evil, making him not all-good.
They sure call themselves muslim. Saying they aren't muslims is a "no true scotsman" (the same way people claim the terrorists weren't muslims even as they died screaming Allahu akbar!). They believe in the teachings of Muhammad (Pizza Be Upon Him), but do not think religion and politics should mingle
"man has the right to rule over itself" - but women must hide inside their houses
The Qu'ran was written by men. So saying Allah rules over you means you get his laws outside the quran?
The figures are actually skewed, because a woman that gets assaulted for not wearing a burka isn't considered raped.
Algebra was stolen (and improved, I will admit) from greeks. Arabic numbers originate from india. Most of the astrological discoveries were done before the rise of Islam.
Still, if I wanted to build a church of scientology (if I was a scientologist, for example) in Mecca, could I? If government can prevent free speech, it's a tyranny.
I'm not ruling out impersonal gods. They are still possible, if somewhat useless. Good, all-powerful gods are out of the question unless an evil, all-powerful god also exists to counter them and explain the existence of evil. (this is the belief of zoroastrians). Monotheism, as long as it claims its god is good, cannot exist.
God's wisdom: Create beings knowing they will go against your will, and punish them for doing so. Create a snake to convince them to betray you.
Secularism and atheism are two different subjects. I know many secular muslims. Do you know the name people call the period where religion had the most influence on the government? "The Dark Ages". Christians had it, muslims had it, jews had it. Every time, science was set back a few hundred years.
If I could build an atheist T-shirt stand in Mecca, I wouldn't say you're asking for special privileges I cannot have.
I ask you to prove at which point gravity, and the strong and weak and electromagnetic forces have been created. Because those are all that are needed to create a universe identical to our own starting with a singularity.
If you can prove they started to exist at any point (or even that they can be changed) then you might have an argument. Until you can prove that those laws can be changed, I will assume they never were.
Timeless, not infinite. Being timeless means being outside of time (because time iself was created in the Big Bang). It doesn't mean it cannot cease to exist.
Infinite would mean it would still exist nowadays, whereas it did not act ever since (at least, not in a way we can test now). It could be possible that it still exists, but because it doesn't act in any way, why bother?
Quantum events are not decided. So it could not "suddenly decide" anything.
You start with zero, and come up with -1000 and +1000 (matter and antimatter, in our example). The total is still equal to nothing (in fact, if they reunited, this is what would be left.
"goes against all laws of nature" - Not in quantum mechanics. In fact, a universe could spawn from nothing. At all. And become a huge mass of matter (positive) and antimatter (negative).
In fact, through some rigorous calculations, we can know that the total energy in the universe is zero, meaning that this is how much energy should have been deployed to create it.
Infinity is a mathematical concept. It cannot exist in the natural world.
Random acts are impossible in normal physics. However, quantum mechanics permit acts of pure chaos to generate law. Nothing to calculate here except possibilities and probabilities. Chaos.
The Big Bang created time. Saying something is "timeless" means nothing if it was before the Big Bang. Everything that happened before the Big Bang could not affect what happened after.
Everything is going according to naturally-occuring laws. What I'm asking for is evidence that those laws do not act by themselves. However, using the same heat, same materials, same windspeed, you will get a different smoke cloud. All the data is the same, yet the cloud is different.
Even if it was someone, it wouldn't prove Allah. Why wouldn't it prove Cronos? Or Horus?
The weather is constant because the natural forces are constant.
What evidence do you have to support they weren't always there?
If you can assume that those natural forces just act upon physics as long as there is something physical to act upon, and follow the fact they ALWAYS do what they do the same way, all that was needed by the prime mover was set a little speck of matter into place and let fly.
A clear sky poofing out of nowhere would be scientifically impossible. The fact no cloud is alike means that either they form naturally in a seemingly random shape, or someone designs every of them. Chances are for the natural forces, and not a still acting prime mover. The prime mover is just that: act once, leave alone.
The universe is very logical because it acts upon laws that apply at the smallest level.
The weather is systematic because it acts upon natural laws. The shape of smoke acts upon natural forces too.
The cause/effect law makes it so the prime mover is needed.
The already existing laws taking care of everything means that all it needed was a starting action. The action itself had to be on a very small scale, and then let the rest act upon itself.
Things do happen randomly. You can find shapes in the clouds all the time, yet do not think anything else but the wind and water vapor created them. Order in chaos. Yet no cloud is exactly the same.
Random things happen all the time. Yet if we seek order in anything, we will find it. There are thousands of scientific finds in Moby Dick that weren't available at the time or writing. Does that make Moby Dick a holy book?
The action could be pretty random and still work. Fact is, there is logic in chaos as much as there is chaos in logic. This has been proven time and time again. You might want to search for "the secret life of chaos", a nice documentary.
I accept that there had to be a first action. What I do not accept is the fact it had to be intelligent.
As I've stated earlier, in quantum physics, "nothing" is really something.
Also: if the singularity was there from the beginning, gravity had something to act upon
The "other dimensions" are really other dimensions for the same particles. It has nothing to do with expansion. I'll mention that the graviton is thought to be multidimensional.
The theories that said the Universe will at some point end have been debunked.
Well, in quantum physics, empty space isn't really empty. Particles create and destroy each other every millisecond.
I agree that it had to start from somewhere. However, because quantum particles act the way described, the prime mover itself could have verily started to exist.
Nevertheless, gravity isn't to reject because the singularity could have been there to be affected
The Universe isn't retracting. That hypothesis was the Big Crunch, and has been long debunked, because the galaxies that are going away from us move away faster and faster
What you say about parallel dimensions is actually part of the Many-Worlds Interpretation of the quantum mechanics (the most accepted interpretation).
Gravity can do something if it starts with a singularity. It could have been the Universe itself, and not outside it.
The scientists agree that the Universe will continue on expanding forever without end. Of course, that will be LOOOOOONNNNG after our Sun ends its life and another galaxy rams ours.
Plants aren't asexual. They reproduce sexually, just in a different manner. The most majority of ants are asexual: they will not reproduce in any way, not make seeds, no nothing. Just protect their queen.
No species is completely gay. However, the 400 species I spoke about have gay members.
Spiders of the same species that eat each other have a reason. Black widows, for example: the male losing its life to give its genes to a few hundred eggs is actually a good thing, evolutionally speaking. especially since spiders AREN'T SOCIAL SPECIES.
Fish that aren't social kill each other. Because they do not depend on the others to survive.
Wait, the Big Bang makes no sense? Less than "a magic man did it"?!?!
Being gay is biological. It benefits not the animal itself, but the society around him. Because he cannot reproduce, he cannot have children. At some times, it can be useful, especially then the planet gets overpopulated (like it is now) and reproduction actually reduces the amount of resources and food available.
They grow in numbers because the number of humans in the world is growing. The percentage stays relatively stable.
Because being gay happens in 400 different species. It serves an evolutionary purpose. This is the reason the percentage has stayed the same over the world.
Gays aren't weak or useless. There are many examples of even ASEXUAL individuals that help their society. Ever heard of ants?
I proved otherwise by saying that lions act among lions just as humans act among humans. A human killing a human is a murder, because it attacked its own species. A lion killing a lion is a murder too. But a lion cannot murder a human. It can kill it, but it isn't murder.
I don't think the billionnaire has any right over my freedom and life. Neither do I think I have any right over his. Some people do better than others. That's life. Some animals get eaten, others get to eat.
As long as I can eat, sleep, love and live, I'm pretty happy.
I want every homo sapiens to have the same rights as I do. Because we're the same species.
Using your conclusion, lions should treat humans better than they treat other lions.
There isn't a difference in this meaning, save for the lions cannot speak out their thoughts, but would much prefer a human to die than another lion. Why is that?
Why would a human prefer a lion dying then?
Is it because humans have "human rights" and lions have "lion rights"? Not at all. It's because in evolution, if a single being dies, it reduces the gene pool, which is disadvantageous.
@Xgya2000 also about the survival of the fittest... your working "together" should then exclude all humans wanting to kill each other... why is it ok for wars and why do some people kill? see if you use the piranah and cheetah example then stick to these examples... how comes they dont kill each other working together... but in the human world you find humans killing each other war ect? now you used piranahs stick to piranahs.... because what you find in the animals is each speices has trends
I think animals should have the right to live and be happy. I don't call for discrimination because, again, of evolutionary bias. Dogs will prefer dogs to humans. Humans will prefer humans to cows. To preserve the species, acting together against all other species is actually advantageous
Again, if facing a lion, both the disabled and the normal person will be lunch. The other lions will not be
Two humans face near death; they have the choice between eating a rabbit or themselves...
Ever saw a dog smile? They can sure be happy. They also feel when you're alone and try to comfort you all the more. I call that empathy. Monkeys have this VERY diverse gestual language, and their facial expressions are very close to ours when they feel the same thing.
If evolution happened as you said, we would all look identical, for we would all have the same traits. The fact is the environment where species move to affects their behaviour and evolution greatly.
Not exactly. In many societies, sharing is better than simply trying to do all you can alone. For example, cheetahs live along their brothers in small bands, looking for females in their area. Knowing one cheetah alone wouldn't be enough to protect themselves and a female, they cooperate. Anyways, their genes will be almost the same from having the same parents.
If a single pirhana dies, it affects the whole group's ability to get food, so they don't fight over it.
Morality has evolutionary advantages, especially because we are a social species
Human babies are born so fragile they have to be tended to far longer than most animals. This is because our brain cases are so big that if we developed completely in the womb, every birth would kill the mother. So we are born incomplete, and are taken care of by our parents
About living in society: again, we are fragile and weak when alone, so we learned to hunt in groups. Pirhanas don't kill each other
@shuhada786 you keep going on about evolution as if its my religion. Evolution just explains the diversity of live. some genes help the organism survive so it is passed down to the next generation. Our survival depends on ppl working together, it would be bad if we started slaughtering each other for no reason. So in us was built something known as ''empathy'' i have it maybe you dont is that finally clear.
@shuhada786 democracy is nonsense huh? i guess and autocracy is much better right. As far as freedom goes i am free, but my freedom ends where someone else freedoms begin. Very simple concept and you cant understand it.
@shuhada786 because i have something called empathy maybe you dont. If your saying that your faith is the only thing that stops you from doing something like raping children then your not moral at all. I'm proud to say that a belief in the bogyman is not what stops me. Thats a big thing to reveal about yourself.
@shuhada786 Your question is wrong in the first place. Evoution never suggests that there is a link between "monkey and man". Monkey is the end of a phylogenic branch just like the humans. There has been a separation about 8000-10000 generations ago (DNA evidence), and before that time, more than twenty distinct species have been identified as the predecessor of homo sapiens.
@shuhada786 Just read what you said. Allah creates everything, and some of them are idiots? That's like throwing a brick in the air, and when it hits your head, you curse it. God of the universe who created everything shouldn't need to threaten anyone. About science you listen to imam bullshit instead of scientists. You are a proof that religion spreads through ignorance.
@shuhada786 Why would an omnipotent all powerful being need to threaten his own creation? Please look at it from the perspective of a grownup.. oh wait, nevermind.
@dionysius09 If "[you] cannot, on [your] own, come to right conclusions about anything," then how can you assert that you correctly concluded that God and Jesus are the source of wisdom?
Answer to your question the point of sending messenger was so that people like you who don’t believe in god won’t have an excuse when you meet god. And god himself is protecting the Quran and you don’t know this because god him said so, you know this because it is in the hearts of Muslim. Muslims have been memorising the Quran from the time of the last messenger of god till now. Read the Quran. if you want truth you can find it just look for it. p.s any more question you have feel free to ask
OK we have only written words. "Eli, Eli Lema Sabakhtani" (it sounds almost identical to Arabic). This written words do not proof that Jesus was crucified. In my opinion Bible is not trustworthy, because there are many different versions of the Bible. There are many Gospels. The Gospel of Barnabas is different from the Gospel of Peter etc. And the writers of all these Gospels have never seen Jesus in their lives.
Well, Muhammad did not see Jesus in his life either, and the chances he ever talked to someone who did are slim at best.
Written words are not proof that Moses ever existed, yet you still claim he did.
The fact the Gospels are different is because none of them were written right after the fact, only from hearsay. However, none of the gospels contradict the crucifixion, meaning it is one of the actions that has the most chances to have happened.
Jesus was never crucified according to the Gospel of Barnabas. If you want to read this Gospel w w w Barnabas net. The nobel Prophet Muhammad received Words from God (Quran). These Words of God were learnt by heart and recorded by a large number of Muslims. The Quran is not Mohammed own words, but a direct revelations of God.
You are the one saying that the qu'ran isn't Muhammad's own words (even though many of the "revelations" help Muhammad more than they do any other man). The qu'ran says so too.
So, a book tells that it's author did not compose it. And you believe that.
Meaning that if I ever wrote down that I was not the author of my own text, and that they are God's word, every muslim would believe me?
How can I explain it to you? I think It very easy to distinguish truth from falsehood. When reciting the Quran you feel peace, pure love, and mercy. And the Qur'an uplifts the spirit and puts peace and tranquility into your heart and soul. The words of God sounds beautiful and powerful. I don't think I will reach this with your own text, even if you claim that the text is from God.
Please ljust isten to (watch?v=eYurgt1F_MY). What do you think?
I can feel pure love, mercy and peace when I listen to a few movies. Does that make all those movies true and divinely inspired?
I don't think a soul exists, but if anything, said movies and many books put my heart at ease. Their subject is beautiful and powerful.
Provoking an emotional reaction is proof of a good artist. Not of god. Ergo, your only proof that the qu'ran isn't just someone writing a nice poem applies to my movies and books.
Of course you can like anything you want (like movies), but it sounds to me a little bit crazy to call these movies divinely inspired. The Quran is a healing of hearts. Believe me if you read the Quran with an open heart you will immediately touched by the beauty, elegance and wisdom of Verses of the Quran.
You don't believe in a soul! do you believe that you have a mind? If yes, what scientific evidence do you have?
If divine inspiration causes healing of the heart, than all of what I mentioned above corresponds to your definition. "If you watched the movies with an open heart, you will immediately touched by the beauty....." - Does that sound any familiar?
A mind is the product of the brain. Every time I think about something in particular, a specific part of my brain generates electricity. The same part that lights up when a child has an imaginary friend does when someone prays, by the way
hahaha ok next time I will watch movies with an open heart :). To be honest I don't expect too much. Any way, the Quran has many scienitic miracles proving that is a revelation from God. A man, who can't read or write, from the desert, more than 1,400 years ago (Mohammed) will never know about the working of the ozone layer (per example). It is impossible to be written 1,400 years ago by a man from the desert. w w w miraclesofthequran com.
Delusion. It's not until you are truly honest with yourself, how all of this makes absolutely no sense. It's ridiculous to think that this perfect god would make us in his image and then not expect us to use our critical thinking. Even when I believed, I couldn't understand many devout people, so disconnected from nature. Now I know why, because religions like this teach such hatred. That we are above all on this wretched earth and not a PART of something beautiful and wonderful. What a waste.
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@doomheart2001 Then tell me if "Ever Knee shall bend n every head shall bow" then who Jesus was praying "bowing n prostrating" to? Who was he was worshiping? Was Jesus god or the "son of god?! By saying "son" Are you claiming God sired/begot Jesus a child from Mary?!God is not begotten nor does He have any need to beget! God is the Creator God created Jesus miraculously without a male intervention! God is the self subsisting, self Existing, Eternal(can not die), the Formless, Unseen, Unique one!
moeazysgc 3 weeks ago
@doomheart2001 Then tell me if "Ever Knee shall bend n every head shall bow" then who Jesus was praying "bowing n prostrating" to? Who was he was worshiping? Was Jesus god or the "son of god?! By saying "son" Are you claiming God sired/begot Jesus a child from Mary?!God is not begotten nor does He have any need to beget! God is the Creator God created Jesus miraculously without a male intervention! God is the self subsisting, self Existing, Eternal(can not die), the Formless, Unseen, Unique one!
moeazysgc 3 weeks ago
@doomheart2001 Then tell me if "Ever Knee shall bend n every head shall bow" then who Jesus was praying "bowing n prostrating" to? Who was he was worshiping? Was Jesus god or the "son of god?! By saying "son" Are you claiming God sired/begot Jesus a child from Mary?!God is not begotten nor does He have any need to beget! God is the Creator God created Jesus miraculously without a male intervention! God is the self subsisting, self Existing, Eternal(can not die), the Formless, Unseen, Unique one!
moeazysgc 3 weeks ago
all the message(no god expect him) God save the Quran because it is the last book and it will remain until the Day of Resurrection, and because god will not send a prophet after Muhammad to fit what would happen to the distortion of the Koran) no one could say quran change the original source in four country it is matches with all all over the world
noraeygpt1 1 month ago
the quran says that there is no tribe, land or people that god didn't send a messenger to.
these are the prophets of which god mentioned because they are mentioned in the bible but without the true stories of theirs. god mentioned them to correct their stories of which the writers of the bible fabricated. otherwise, he sent others.
gQuaresma07 2 months ago
@gQuaresma07 Well said.
3BDRR7MAN 2 months ago
This is because of Mohammad's selfish thinking to become the prophet and also of muslims wishful thinking to fake their religion as supreme.Islam is one of the most filthiest,fake,violent,death cult u will ever find.All those who say islam is peace r just talking shit.Mohammad was a criminal.if he lived today he wud b in jail or given death sentence.
dheer1231 2 months ago 2
The makerof this vid is stupid, as well as u r cuz of uploading this crap. And u call a free thinker?! If u 'r truly a free thinker, get a quran and read it and stop thinking of pleasuring yourself and pleasing your desires and look around u. Lokk at the sky, the sun, the moon, the stars, the sea, the animals, the automobiles,... i would keep going for ever. Look at yourself. your external and internal self.
Uknow what?! After mid-night, pary for almighty GOD to guid you
No God but Allah
loaybernardino 2 months ago
Scientists hve found out that there r splits in the moon.
4mm4r57 2 months ago
I mean prophet.
4mm4r57 2 months ago
Bcoz muhammad (pbuh) was the last prophets.
4mm4r57 2 months ago
because the people that God send them the bible ,, they have betrayed God
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and so you distort the words of the living God, the LORD Almighty, our God
Jeremiah 23:36
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The Israelites have rejected your covenant, broken down your altars, and put your prophets to death with the sword. I am the only one left, and now they are trying to kill me too
Kings 1 19:9
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All day long they distort my words; All their thoughts are against me for evil
Psalm 56:4
055918 2 months ago
he sent a letter to every kingdom, some sent gifts, a few laughed and ripped the invitation to accept worship to ONE God. the world is not ready for one god, free thinker. for that means, we are all equal, and must submit to God. and it means, for the most part, we have made grave sins and we cannot blame it on Adam and Eve peace be upon them, nor can we gain retribution by proclaiming Jesus is our God and savior, we must work on it. we must pray. we must live better,learn. r u ready 4 that??
CHARKHXBEZAN247 2 months ago
prophet zoraster (zardusht) was also a prophet, and the monotheist worshippers of ahura mazda, came to welcome the birth of Isa Messiah peace be upon him. however have you forgotten how people treat prophets? for greed, for power, they tried to kill messengers of peace. this is people for you, when God sends them a word and guidance, they time and time again corrupted it.that is why the last prophet is held in such high esteem..he was sent to preach to THE WORLD not just to one region.
CHARKHXBEZAN247 2 months ago
Here is somebody who hates Islam and Muslims and of course he is Danish...most racist country ever!
iraqia1990 3 months ago
This guy is the dumbest guy iv listened to in a longlong time ''its like saying its true because it says its true'' Go back to worshiping science, man evolved from apes coincidentally, so why didnt parrots evolve into manbirds you dumb ****
KSHAY9 3 months ago
الحمد لله أننا وجدنا الحق في الإسلام (:
و المفكر الحر يجب أن يكون محايداً في آرائه و أن يطرح المعلومات من مصادرها !!
ثم إن الله حفظ القرآن من التحريف لأنه تكفل بحفظه و ذلك عكس باقي الكتب التي لم يتعهد الله بحفظها لأنه أوكل حفظها للبشر فلم يؤدوا الأمانة فأوكل حفظ كتابه الأخير إلى نفسه قبل أن تطرح شبهات يجب عليك أن تبحث عن ردودها يا صغيري
ثم إنه عندما أرسل هؤلاء الرسل لم تكتشف باقي القارات بعد لذلك لا تستغرب أن الله أرسلهم في الشرق الأوسط
يبدو لي أنك أنت المفكر الأكثر حماقة هههههههههههه
MoOoslim 3 months ago
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NasseerBoss 4 months ago
Ofcourse this life is a puzzle....
Or did God made us just for no reason? To live, eat drink, shit and eventually die?
NO, there is a meaning behind life...
You have to search it for yourself if you want the truth!
Thank God, I found it in the Qu'ran.
NasseerBoss 4 months ago 2
well, mosa, or Moses was sent to Egypt. proof? the Nile river isn't in the middle east is it? and its clearly stated that to every nation a prophet was sent to guide them in the quran. and this world is a test of belief. any religion should be debated with seriousness because its a serious matter. making fun of a religion only promotes ignorance. please think a bit more before posting a video.
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islam is the last message of god
so, any one want to be a muslim he is welcome
and it will be good for himself first of all he will be the winner
mas3ary 4 months ago
The matter of the fact is that the Jews (Sons of Isaac) were chosen to guide humanity but they became arrogant and started to believe that they were superior to all mankind. They even rewrote the Torah to justify that only they can be believers and the rest of humanity is like cattle. God sent many Prophets before he ultimately ended Prophethood in a non-Jewish Prophet.
ranamuhammadatif 4 months ago
Thanks for the video. In islam we believe that there were 124,000 prophets in total send to mankind. Only 25 of those are mentioned in the Quran. As for the statement that messengers should have been sent to a few more places. The Quran states, in chapter 10 verse 27: "To every people (was sent) an Messenger", thus every single nation on earth from the beginning of time was sent a messenger. We also beleive that the last messenger was given the Quran, as a final testament to Mankind.
SimplyDawah 4 months ago
peace plz check rekkitten on youtube wish u best ever
TheAngelofliberty 4 months ago
Poor guy, his dumbness has no end. lol
Totiiiism 5 months ago
what a stupid are you ! god give man freevil . so mostly like you people become evil . they change the books god didnot . they worship stones god did not say to them . its human who courapt the pure religon of one god thats why time by time he send prophet to remind them !
shaair1 5 months ago
what a moron ...hey dickhead ......you r the dumbest u tuber
FBI7867 5 months ago 2
another lie !!! more than 120000 prophets were sent around the world;
and prophet Muhammad pbuh was sent to all mankind
today all humanity knows about Islam you have Muslims and kuffars (disbelievers) , god guides whom he pleases i'd say mission accomplished
MrFFSMAN 5 months ago
for someone who calls himself a free thinker you are quite the opposite. atheists think that they think freely no religion no mind restrictions yet they follow theories made by men by the letter and with no proof. do you know why not to believe in god ?
do you even know from where came atheism ? and why ? you have been led to believe that there is no god so you loose concept of right or wrong and you loose yourself to desires and become an easy prey for satan. satan is atheism's origin thinker
elsarih777 5 months ago
he calls that red spot "the middle east". i call it the centre of the world. messengers have been sent to all parts of the world, why it is so unbelievable that over a period of thousands of years it could be completly corrupted. the religion of the one god is the oldest religion. you either believe in a higher power or you dont, all acient worlds believed in a higher power of some sort, that obviously comes from some truth. wether they prayer to a stone a tree or the sun. behind it all is God.
TheOpenedsoul 5 months ago
Allah says it will protect the Quran, and your point is that we shouldn't believe such a thing casue it jus says so.
Well the same analogy can be applied to this video of yours, so i say u quit blabbering stuff you have no concrete knowledge of.
umbrella222s 5 months ago
What kind of spirit is behind a "religion" fills it's followers with complete resolve as to what to DISbelieve? Whatever Muhammad's followers DO believe about the Messiah, WILL REMAIN IRRELEVANT, as long as they reject - indeed blaspheme - the blood of the Lamb of God, that would save them. The WHOLE SUBJECT of the Gospel.
watch?v=H2kCxOGGM5w
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TheServiceWeb 5 months ago
there was a prophet sent to every part of the world.
dhaibi1 5 months ago
You know how rationale inquiry works right? You first need to properly familiarize yourself with the subject matter before you attempt to draw conclusions.
The entire basis of this video is silly because about 15 seconds into the video you made your first wrong conclusion based on your ignorance of the topic you are trying to critique.
freeshyne1234 5 months ago
@freeshyne1234 Totally agree, this guy is very quick to jump to conclusions.
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"They intend to put out the Light of Allah with their mouths, but Allah will not allow it except that His Light is perfected even though the disbelievers hate it" At Tawbah :32
Habooba1990 5 months ago
flag this vid ..
this sickman making religions funny
manluvf 6 months ago 2
@manluvf
"making religions funny"?
I thought religions were already funny, what's with all the stories...
Someone cutting the moon in two. A global flood. Beings made out of fire
A man reaching the end of the world
Elephants being turned to grass by getting hit by rocks
A king abandoning his kingdom to chase a single bird
The stars being created after the planet it runs around
Xgya2000 4 months ago
all the answer to your quastion r, answered in the holy quran. just go with you quastion to quran you ll get the wohl answers.
i give you an example, what did the kews has done to prophet jesus p.b.u.o.h ? prophet jesus told the jews that their fathers has misguided but the jews has tryed to kill him.! 2.look the orginal bible in hebrew and in midle east ! 3. read the quran and look the "muslim " they are not following quran, they do everything forbiding.. so you can see how people disbelive
jiKurdistan 6 months ago
learn to ask question without using your stupid condescending tone, because not only it shows that you stupid, but also it shows that your stupidity of a complex nature, where you even don't know about it.
kilodhahab 6 months ago
also at that time what civilization that we know off was developed enough to have read. books were rather irrelevant to most humanity who most of them could not actually read. Middle east was the center of the world and sending book their is enough for all humanity. can you imagine that even though middle east was relatively intellectual comparing the rest of the world their God books as largely exclusive to small educated elite so why sending books to the rest of the world, sorry u r failure!
kilodhahab 6 months ago
Very Superficial video indeed. Its obvious that you have not even think about the question, rather laid out all your first thoughts in condescending way. as quick answer to you. Christiane them selves believe that their books were no written by GOD. and Qur'an is not corrupted because it has not been change since ever, and No one has the ability to write anything like, try if you can! do a better research, all your questions unfortunately are silly!!
kilodhahab 6 months ago
LOL, again my man you fail. God mentioned just 25 prophets in the Quran, these ones were the men who faced most hardships, These men delivered the message of Tawheed "the nature to believe in only the Creator, as being worthy of worship".
God gives humans the free will or choice to believe or not. its on them. But the rejecters of good, will always see the opposite. Thats the test. simple, but yet hard for the arrogant. Buddha couldve have been a prophet of God, but again theres no hadith 4 that
ViciousBeats16 6 months ago
You will InshAllah very soon
MrSuperloo 7 months ago
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mujahideentaliban 7 months ago
Imam Mehdi will come
thehayamind 7 months ago
@thehayamind so will 2012 doomsday
msaqlain 7 months ago
@msaqlain feel bad for you.
thehayamind 7 months ago
Lol. This video is flawed. Read this: "And verily, We have sent among every Ummah (community, nation) a Messenger (proclaiming): "Worship Allah (Alone)..." (Qur'ân 16:36) You have only mentioned a few Prophets here. There were over 124,000 Prophets of Islam sent out, but the Qur'an only mentions the 25 most important, for their stories give us the lessons by which we must live in our every day lives. Of the 25, the most important are the 5, Prophets Noah, Abraham, Moses, Jesus, and Muhammad.
TheIrisOfMyEyes 7 months ago
@TheIrisOfMyEyes Where is the evidence in Quran or Hadith that god sent 124,000 to mankind?
strangestdude 7 months ago
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@strangestdude I quoted it before. "And verily, We have sent among every Ummah (community, nation) a Messenger (proclaiming): "Worship Allah (Alone)..." (Qur'ân 16:36)
TheIrisOfMyEyes 7 months ago
Quran was is all mankind, that's why God protected.
why people talk bad about Quran when they have never read it before ????
KurdishwarriorSS 7 months ago
@xaviola4
The fastest birth rate and conversion rate in uneducated countries of all religions, agreed.
However, the correlation between religious belief and education is negative (the more people are educated, the less they are likely to be religious). This says much about the brains needed to be a believer.
The qu'ran, when studied from outside the religious bubble, is flagrantly inaccurate. If you have to believe in something for it to make sense, then it's a delusion.
Xgya2000 7 months ago
@xaviola4 Not to mention all the people that frankly, your book doesn't even acknowledge exist that were around way before the 6000 year ago approximate date of "Adam" being created, but for whom we have actual calendars, earlier religions, cave drawings, fossils, etc. Nah, but you go ahead pretending you have a perfect text. And sure, you'll have to ignore the ultrasound as it shows most of the bones ossifying after the muscles are there. And try to ignore the further stars/galaxies.
Enginmaster 7 months ago
@xaviola4 He wanted to test 4500 + years of Native Americans, Australian Aborigines, South Africans, Chinese/other East Asians, Indians, and Northern Europeans by sending prophets to people who never talk to them and giving them a message that's pretty silly sounding to the un-initiated? Just so he can punish them with the least equitable punishment ever, eternal hell....What a dick! I'm glad your god doesn't exist, because if he did, he'd be the biggest meanest dick in the world.
Enginmaster 7 months ago
THE QURAN IS PROTECTED AND ITS PROVED.ITS THE ONLY BOOK THAT HAVE ONLY ONE TESTAMENT WHERE OTHER RELIGION HAVE MANY TESTAMENT
songshoshe 8 months ago
Allah orders its followers to work like there is no end to the life, and pray like you are about to die. which implies that always question and never say "miracle of god". but always know that from the smallest particle to the entire universe god owns, god created, god ordered.
false interpretations of the almightys words may create a false reflection of religion causing a loss of faith. I advise you to find quran and read it, never fall in such fallacies created by haters.
god bless you.
kespec 8 months ago
"if god is so righteous why all of the suffering?"
Quran teaches that this world is just a mere resting place, like you take a moment to sit beneath a tree benefiting from its shadow. considering to eternal life awaits on the otherside..
and again, everything is in that world is created to fit in a logic that everything is in a natural order hiding the god's touch. which eventually elects the rotten apples who defy god.
kespec 8 months ago
- quran also says that muhammad is the last prophet
- according to holy book every diffuculity on earth is a challenge prepared by god itself to test if its creation, who defiled their revered position in high heavens, worthy enough to be along with it once again. which includes your question about why all the prophets poped up in same place. no one is holding you back to accept the righteous path. its been always there, you ignored it.
kespec 8 months ago
@kespec ,A self righteous path is one travelled by those who claim knowledge of a righteous one
mooroopoo 8 months ago
@mooroopoo
its up to you to walk the path and see it with your own eyes.
its not up to me to force you into this path. as quran says "we(God) do not give you the responsibility to show them disbelievers the path" "those who search for miracles, haven't we shown you enough?"
"God is allforgiving, even in last breath yielding to its awesome power is enough for we to forgive you about your past"
this is my righteous path, might be a self one but its mine.
kespec 8 months ago
@kespec, There are many paths to be travelled not least the path of the self .peace
mooroopoo 8 months ago
@mooroopoo
i travelled hard and far and stumbled upon this, and i am glad.
kespec 8 months ago
Quran is error free.,., thats the proof for it being uncorrupted.,.,
Danny14243 8 months ago
Every 200 or 300 years, another prophet comes along, so another one is due anytime now and he will have his story to tell.
Its getting mighty crowded round here, what with all these fucking prophets.
And when the next one comes along with his version of the so called 'truth', which one should we follow?
History shows that ALL erroneous, religions fail in the end, just as Christianity is failing now, and as Islam will follow.
Muslims really are just sheep.....
Baa baa baa......
TheProphetMo 9 months ago
HAHAHAHAH BIN LADIN IS DEAD U PUSSY FUK BIN LADIN KILLED 5 /1/. 2011
DRIN841 9 months ago
look if you were really nterested in all the answers to these questions i got them but i know this isnt a discussion, rather a dictation of 1 ignorant view about a vast and important subject
1986flawlys 9 months ago
the point for or the prophets is so that people like you have no excuse on the day of judgment for your ignorance. and there was a last prophet muhammad pbuh so thats it no more prophets... and 124,000 is alot to name all of them. perhaps a book all in its own. and yes all the religons were corrupted exept the last message
1986flawlys 9 months ago
u do not judge any1 only god can.,
u fool
muriamful 9 months ago
"Indeed, We have sent you with the truth as a bringer of good tidings and a warner. And there was no nation but that there had passed within it a warner." [Al-Quran 35:24]
touahmed 9 months ago
This video is very misleading. The wikipedia page explains that God sent messengers or Prophets to all people, the list shown in this video, are only the ones specifically named in the Holy Qu'ran. Is like claiming there are only 11 footballers in England, those who are named in the England football team.
bingosocks 10 months ago
@shuhada786
You think the forces were created.
I don't.
The argument ends there.
However, saying that all God had to do was create the forces means he never acted upon anything else afterwards. So he did not dictate a book to anyone.
Xgya2000 10 months ago
@shuhada786
While I admit your hypothesis is plausible, because it cannot be proven, I can say it is pure conjecture.
Especially knowing egyptians and their habit of recording EVERYTHING. From the changes in grain prices to the names of Pharaohs. Strange how nothing changed suddenly due to animals or children dying from the plagues though.
Xgya2000 10 months ago
@shuhada786
The romans were the ones that created the torture of crucifixion. It was never used before they did.
Xgya2000 10 months ago
@shuhada786
I'm just using historical references to "7 heavens". Because that's how the terms were used in the times the qu'ran was written.
Xgya2000 10 months ago
@shuhada786
My theory about how it is now is "It worked on the existing forces"
My hypothesis is that the forces always existed this way. But I fully admit "I don't know"
Your hypothesis is a magic man did it. But, barring evidence, you don't know either.
The forces alone were enough to create the universe, so our argument ends with what or who created them, if they were at all created.
Xgya2000 10 months ago
@shuhada786
20:71
"I will cut off your hands and feet on alternate sides and crucify you on the trunks of palm trees"
The real question here is "how would an egyptian pharaoh know of a roman form of torture?
Xgya2000 10 months ago
@shuhada786
Ramses 2 died in his bed, ridden with a strickening disease. He sure wasn't in shape to go get drowned.
Xgya2000 10 months ago
@shuhada786
Well, nobody could smell anything coming from the other side of the Universe. Airless space blocks odors.
Of course, if Allah wanted it, he could do anything. (but he has to create evil in order to show us good).
We can already explore what ancient people called the "seven heavens", meaning, the seven closest planets in our solar system.
Xgya2000 10 months ago
@shuhada786
The universe could have been different if the forces involved had been different. How similar to the spot can that be?
We did not come about by chance. We came about through physical processes coming from those forces. However, how the forces came about themselves is yet unknown. "I don't know" = "chance"?
Xgya2000 10 months ago
@shuhada786
Not if all the possibilites exist at once (i.e: multiverse)
My theory doesn't rely on chance as much as it relies on physical concepts: the Universe isn't well-built for us: we are well-evolved for the universe. It happened, we are here. Once we do exist, chance no longer counts.
All of the universe relies on four forces. The rest is just the result of those forces interacting. If the forces were a little bit different, out Universe, too, would be. How different, I can only imagine.
Xgya2000 10 months ago
@shuhada786
Well, give me evidence for pharaohs crucifying people (after cutting their arms off too XD). Else, here's one historical contradiction.
I ask that your evidence not come from any site or book mentioning Islam or allah, as it would point to some kind of bias.
So Allah hasn't created the Universe for humans. And since he doesn't need it, we can assume he didn't create it for him. Why then?
Xgya2000 10 months ago
@shuhada786
You're right: you think the Universe could only have happened one way. I think it could have had many outcomes. I agree. I also support the multiverse hypothesis because of this idea.
The theories are attempts at knowing why that splash of paint is exactly as it is, because now that it is there, we can't change it. Nobody wants to recreate the Universe. We all want to know how it got there.
Xgya2000 10 months ago
@shuhada786
Now, I took the paint spash example because it is something that uses so many unknown factors that the chances of it being so is mininal. Just like the Universe.
You might say that the splash of paint was done by a human, but would you say it was part of a design? So, then, would you say that simply having a low percentage of existing means design by default? Now, please stop using "chance" as it's a mathematical concept that doesn't exist in the real world.
Xgya2000 10 months ago
@shuhada786
Nope: Something happened, and our universe came into existence.
I threw a bucket of paint and a spot came into existence.
What are the chances of the universe being just as it is?
What are the chances of the spot being just as it is?
Without trying to recreate my example, you could calculate the chances of the spot being accurately the one that just happened to form on my first try. That exact same spot's probability is infinitesimal. The spot is still there. So's the Universe.
Xgya2000 10 months ago
@shuhada786
I can find such miracles in Moby Dick.
What I find rather surprising is how the qu'ran explains the Big Crunch, a scientific hypothesis now rejected by the scientific community.
Now, here's what I ask of you. Use the qu'ran to make a scientific prediction. An accurate depiction of something that has not yet been found. Then, have some researchers look out for your "discovery". If knowledge part is found in the qu'ran before it is found in science, I'll accept it as you do.
Xgya2000 10 months ago
@shuhada786
The universe is far from perfect. It is ordered, because it acts on a total of 4 forces, but perfect?
A star dies every second.
The universe is about 10 times older than the Earth, so the Earth wasn't really planned out until after the rest was put into place.
99.99% of the Universe is empty. So much for efficiency. And that emptyness kills us without acting. So much for a Universe built for humans.
More than 80% of the planet is inhabitable to us.
Xgya2000 10 months ago
@shuhada786
Le me give you an example: I throw a bucket of paint against the wall. It makes an odd-shaped spot.
Now, how many buckets would I need to throw to repeat the exact same spot? Millions? Billions? Does it matter? Of course not! I still did it in one try!
Percentages are worth nothing AFTER the fact. Because by then, the chance is 100%
Xgya2000 10 months ago
Usa will crush every last one of you stanking muslims
radelta 10 months ago
The only prophet of Islam I see is that so called muhammad. Other than the false prophet with two horns like a lamb which is clearly the false muslim Jesus, also known as the abomination of desolation.
silentbehn180 10 months ago
@shuhada786
I'm an agnostic atheist: I think gods do not exist, but am willing to change my stance if someone brings me proof. That makes me reasonable.
You're the one saying leprechauns exist without bringing proof. I say I don't know.
I'm an APE, not a monkey, and so are you. Monkeys are a subfamily of apes. Homosapiens too.
Seems science is on Satan's side in that argument. I guess ignorance has too often won over great minds, so Allah's ignorant army might indeed be more powerful.
Xgya2000 10 months ago
@shuhada786
I stated my argument because you seemed to think your form of government is better. Saying "You're like me" says that Islam does as poorly as secularism.
I do not call any soldier a hero. The one that dies with his body alone: idiot. The one that dies in a tank: idiot. Any (or both) of them kill someone: idiots.
You stick to an unprovable belief: *fill in the blank*
Xgya2000 10 months ago
@shuhada786
I agree he was influential. So was Gengis Khan. Should we all emulate Khan?
Hitler was influential.
Evil people get influence more often than good people. Being influent proves he was a warmonger.
Xgya2000 10 months ago
@shuhada786
I do not have to disprove leprechauns: you have to prove they exist. Same thing applies for God (unless you also believe in leprechauns because no one ever disproved them?)
So, you want special privileges other people cannot have because they do not worship your version of skydaddy. This is the main reason secularism works: because else, everyone would get their privileges based on their skydad, and rights wouldn't be equal.
Xgya2000 10 months ago
@shuhada786
I stand for life. My information comes from what I can learn and prove. Your information comes from a god you cannot prove (i.e: your imagination).
Fact is, you could not tell my precise birthplace even if you and a few hundred muslims prayed to Allah together. Because "Allah" cannot know informations that you do not know.
Xgya2000 10 months ago
@shuhada786
You are using this argument to justify evil. Let me ask you this: Does Allah have enough power to do the good he tries to hide behind the calamity without causing the calamity itself?
If he does, then he causes unnecessary evil, making him not all-good.
If he doesn't, then he's not All-Powerful.
Unless you have another answer?
Xgya2000 10 months ago
@shuhada786
They sure call themselves muslim. Saying they aren't muslims is a "no true scotsman" (the same way people claim the terrorists weren't muslims even as they died screaming Allahu akbar!). They believe in the teachings of Muhammad (Pizza Be Upon Him), but do not think religion and politics should mingle
"man has the right to rule over itself" - but women must hide inside their houses
The Qu'ran was written by men. So saying Allah rules over you means you get his laws outside the quran?
Xgya2000 10 months ago
@shuhada786
The figures are actually skewed, because a woman that gets assaulted for not wearing a burka isn't considered raped.
Algebra was stolen (and improved, I will admit) from greeks. Arabic numbers originate from india. Most of the astrological discoveries were done before the rise of Islam.
Still, if I wanted to build a church of scientology (if I was a scientologist, for example) in Mecca, could I? If government can prevent free speech, it's a tyranny.
Xgya2000 10 months ago
@shuhada786
I'm not ruling out impersonal gods. They are still possible, if somewhat useless. Good, all-powerful gods are out of the question unless an evil, all-powerful god also exists to counter them and explain the existence of evil. (this is the belief of zoroastrians). Monotheism, as long as it claims its god is good, cannot exist.
God's wisdom: Create beings knowing they will go against your will, and punish them for doing so. Create a snake to convince them to betray you.
Xgya2000 10 months ago
@shuhada786
When in dire help I call friends. God has never helped me go through cancer. God has never helped me live through my life. But my friends did.
An all-powerful, all-good being in a world where evil exists is totally illogical.
Xgya2000 10 months ago
@shuhada786
Secularism and atheism are two different subjects. I know many secular muslims. Do you know the name people call the period where religion had the most influence on the government? "The Dark Ages". Christians had it, muslims had it, jews had it. Every time, science was set back a few hundred years.
If I could build an atheist T-shirt stand in Mecca, I wouldn't say you're asking for special privileges I cannot have.
Xgya2000 10 months ago
@shuhada786
I ask you to prove at which point gravity, and the strong and weak and electromagnetic forces have been created. Because those are all that are needed to create a universe identical to our own starting with a singularity.
If you can prove they started to exist at any point (or even that they can be changed) then you might have an argument. Until you can prove that those laws can be changed, I will assume they never were.
Xgya2000 10 months ago
@shuhada786
Timeless, not infinite. Being timeless means being outside of time (because time iself was created in the Big Bang). It doesn't mean it cannot cease to exist.
Infinite would mean it would still exist nowadays, whereas it did not act ever since (at least, not in a way we can test now). It could be possible that it still exists, but because it doesn't act in any way, why bother?
Quantum events are not decided. So it could not "suddenly decide" anything.
Xgya2000 10 months ago
@shuhada786
We agree all the constants have to be the same and have stayed the same. If the changed midway, our Universe couldn't exist
So the constants weren't created.
I agree that the constants themselves could not change. Those are the forces that actually created our universe.
However, quantum events are, bu definition, random.
Xgya2000 10 months ago
@shuhada786
Nope: there is such a thing as a random act. This much, until you can show proper knowledge of quantum mechanics, I will continue assuming.
Gravity collapsing upon a singularity. I claim the singularity was the first "thing" and gravity, one of the first forces.
We have a few hypothesis about how the singularity itself could have formed, but because it isn't very conclusive yet, I'll not mention it here.
Xgya2000 10 months ago
@shuhada786
Something can come from nothing.
You start with zero, and come up with -1000 and +1000 (matter and antimatter, in our example). The total is still equal to nothing (in fact, if they reunited, this is what would be left.
Xgya2000 10 months ago
@shuhada786
The prime mover doesn't need to be alone.
The prime mover needs very little power to start the reaction.
The prime mover doesn't need to do anything after the creation (in fact, being timeless, it could not act upon time once it existed)
The prime mover doesn't need to be thinking if the laws are already in place. The reaction needed to be small and not very intelligently directed.
Xgya2000 10 months ago
@shuhada786
"goes against all laws of nature" - Not in quantum mechanics. In fact, a universe could spawn from nothing. At all. And become a huge mass of matter (positive) and antimatter (negative).
In fact, through some rigorous calculations, we can know that the total energy in the universe is zero, meaning that this is how much energy should have been deployed to create it.
Infinity is a mathematical concept. It cannot exist in the natural world.
Xgya2000 10 months ago
@shuhada786
Random acts are impossible in normal physics. However, quantum mechanics permit acts of pure chaos to generate law. Nothing to calculate here except possibilities and probabilities. Chaos.
The Big Bang created time. Saying something is "timeless" means nothing if it was before the Big Bang. Everything that happened before the Big Bang could not affect what happened after.
Why should the prime mover be infinite?
Xgya2000 10 months ago
@shuhada786
So, I assume that everything is according to natural laws, and you think those laws were created by Allah.
However, there is pretty high evidence that once the laws were in place, no matter how, nothing else was needed.
Nobody to create the stars, nothing to generate life. Just there at the beginning, then leaving everything going as it should.
God (if any) creates the laws, then goes away, and because his presence cannot be seen in any other way, we can assume he went away.
Xgya2000 10 months ago
@shuhada786
Everything is going according to naturally-occuring laws. What I'm asking for is evidence that those laws do not act by themselves. However, using the same heat, same materials, same windspeed, you will get a different smoke cloud. All the data is the same, yet the cloud is different.
Even if it was someone, it wouldn't prove Allah. Why wouldn't it prove Cronos? Or Horus?
Xgya2000 10 months ago
@shuhada786
The weather is constant because the natural forces are constant.
What evidence do you have to support they weren't always there?
If you can assume that those natural forces just act upon physics as long as there is something physical to act upon, and follow the fact they ALWAYS do what they do the same way, all that was needed by the prime mover was set a little speck of matter into place and let fly.
Xgya2000 10 months ago
@shuhada786
A clear sky poofing out of nowhere would be scientifically impossible. The fact no cloud is alike means that either they form naturally in a seemingly random shape, or someone designs every of them. Chances are for the natural forces, and not a still acting prime mover. The prime mover is just that: act once, leave alone.
Xgya2000 10 months ago
@shuhada786
The universe is very logical because it acts upon laws that apply at the smallest level.
The weather is systematic because it acts upon natural laws. The shape of smoke acts upon natural forces too.
The cause/effect law makes it so the prime mover is needed.
The already existing laws taking care of everything means that all it needed was a starting action. The action itself had to be on a very small scale, and then let the rest act upon itself.
Xgya2000 10 months ago
@shuhada786
I don't think it accorded to its will.
Things do happen randomly. You can find shapes in the clouds all the time, yet do not think anything else but the wind and water vapor created them. Order in chaos. Yet no cloud is exactly the same.
Random things happen all the time. Yet if we seek order in anything, we will find it. There are thousands of scientific finds in Moby Dick that weren't available at the time or writing. Does that make Moby Dick a holy book?
Xgya2000 10 months ago
@shuhada786
The action could be pretty random and still work. Fact is, there is logic in chaos as much as there is chaos in logic. This has been proven time and time again. You might want to search for "the secret life of chaos", a nice documentary.
I accept that there had to be a first action. What I do not accept is the fact it had to be intelligent.
Xgya2000 10 months ago
@shuhada786
The prime move could have been the actions of more than one combined. Say one of the movers wasn't powerful enough to create the Universe alone?
Xgya2000 10 months ago
@shuhada786
What if the prime mover had to use all its energy, which then destroyed it? Perfectly logical, especially if energy cannot be created, as you said.
Xgya2000 10 months ago
@shuhada786
The prime mover could end. You're just wanting it not to.
What if the prime mover was unthinking (or even thinking) but creating the Universe actually destroyed it?
It doesn't need to act independently from everything either: what about if there were multiple creators?
You're just putting YOUR definition of a creator here, without considering any other possibilities...
I agree with it/they not being created though.
Xgya2000 10 months ago
@shuhada786
As I've stated earlier, in quantum physics, "nothing" is really something.
Also: if the singularity was there from the beginning, gravity had something to act upon
The "other dimensions" are really other dimensions for the same particles. It has nothing to do with expansion. I'll mention that the graviton is thought to be multidimensional.
The theories that said the Universe will at some point end have been debunked.
Xgya2000 10 months ago
@shuhada786
Well, in quantum physics, empty space isn't really empty. Particles create and destroy each other every millisecond.
I agree that it had to start from somewhere. However, because quantum particles act the way described, the prime mover itself could have verily started to exist.
Nevertheless, gravity isn't to reject because the singularity could have been there to be affected
Xgya2000 10 months ago
@shuhada786
The Universe isn't retracting. That hypothesis was the Big Crunch, and has been long debunked, because the galaxies that are going away from us move away faster and faster
What you say about parallel dimensions is actually part of the Many-Worlds Interpretation of the quantum mechanics (the most accepted interpretation).
Xgya2000 10 months ago
@shuhada786
Gravity can do something if it starts with a singularity. It could have been the Universe itself, and not outside it.
The scientists agree that the Universe will continue on expanding forever without end. Of course, that will be LOOOOOONNNNG after our Sun ends its life and another galaxy rams ours.
Xgya2000 10 months ago
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@shuhada786
Most ants have no sex organs. They just CAN'T have sex. They are BORN asexual, and cannot ever have any sex. We do not need to monitor this.
Xgya2000 10 months ago
@shuhada786
Most ants have no sex organs. They just CAN'T have sex. They are BORN asexual, and cannot ever have any sex. We do not need to monitor this.
Xgya2000 10 months ago
@shuhada786
The Big Bang doesn't state everything came from nothing. That's another hypothesis altogether. Yup: the Big Bang starts with a singularity.
Aristotle's prime mover doesn't say anything about what the mover might have been. As far as the Big Bang goes, it's gravity and quantum physics.
Xgya2000 10 months ago
@shuhada786
I can name many species that actually have gay tendencies. Many monkeys, dogs can hum other males and ONLY other males, staying completely gay...
You will see many female dogs kissing each other for no reason. It happens.
Xgya2000 10 months ago
@shuhada786
Plants aren't asexual. They reproduce sexually, just in a different manner. The most majority of ants are asexual: they will not reproduce in any way, not make seeds, no nothing. Just protect their queen.
No species is completely gay. However, the 400 species I spoke about have gay members.
Xgya2000 10 months ago
@shuhada786
Spiders of the same species that eat each other have a reason. Black widows, for example: the male losing its life to give its genes to a few hundred eggs is actually a good thing, evolutionally speaking. especially since spiders AREN'T SOCIAL SPECIES.
Fish that aren't social kill each other. Because they do not depend on the others to survive.
Wait, the Big Bang makes no sense? Less than "a magic man did it"?!?!
Xgya2000 10 months ago
@shuhada786
There are many gay dogs. Not all dogs are gay, but it doesn't change the fact.
Xgya2000 10 months ago
@shuhada786
Being gay is biological. It benefits not the animal itself, but the society around him. Because he cannot reproduce, he cannot have children. At some times, it can be useful, especially then the planet gets overpopulated (like it is now) and reproduction actually reduces the amount of resources and food available.
They grow in numbers because the number of humans in the world is growing. The percentage stays relatively stable.
Xgya2000 10 months ago
@shuhada786
Because being gay happens in 400 different species. It serves an evolutionary purpose. This is the reason the percentage has stayed the same over the world.
Gays aren't weak or useless. There are many examples of even ASEXUAL individuals that help their society. Ever heard of ants?
Xgya2000 10 months ago
@shuhada786
You said humans and animals are different.
I proved otherwise by saying that lions act among lions just as humans act among humans. A human killing a human is a murder, because it attacked its own species. A lion killing a lion is a murder too. But a lion cannot murder a human. It can kill it, but it isn't murder.
Xgya2000 10 months ago
@shuhada786
Being gay is something found in 400 different species. They are away from the norm, but serve a specific evolutionary purpose.
Rape is actually evolutionally advantageous. This in no way makes it right, but again, evolution explains it.
There are sociopathic animals. In nature, if the animal is from a social species, like in our society, it is quickly dispatched.
As I said earlier: some people have it better, some animals get eaten for others to prosper.
Xgya2000 10 months ago
@shuhada786
I don't think the billionnaire has any right over my freedom and life. Neither do I think I have any right over his. Some people do better than others. That's life. Some animals get eaten, others get to eat.
As long as I can eat, sleep, love and live, I'm pretty happy.
I want every homo sapiens to have the same rights as I do. Because we're the same species.
Xgya2000 10 months ago
@shuhada786
Using your conclusion, lions should treat humans better than they treat other lions.
There isn't a difference in this meaning, save for the lions cannot speak out their thoughts, but would much prefer a human to die than another lion. Why is that?
Why would a human prefer a lion dying then?
Is it because humans have "human rights" and lions have "lion rights"? Not at all. It's because in evolution, if a single being dies, it reduces the gene pool, which is disadvantageous.
Xgya2000 10 months ago
@Xgya2000 also about the survival of the fittest... your working "together" should then exclude all humans wanting to kill each other... why is it ok for wars and why do some people kill? see if you use the piranah and cheetah example then stick to these examples... how comes they dont kill each other working together... but in the human world you find humans killing each other war ect? now you used piranahs stick to piranahs.... because what you find in the animals is each speices has trends
shuhada786 10 months ago
@shuhada786
I think animals should have the right to live and be happy. I don't call for discrimination because, again, of evolutionary bias. Dogs will prefer dogs to humans. Humans will prefer humans to cows. To preserve the species, acting together against all other species is actually advantageous
Again, if facing a lion, both the disabled and the normal person will be lunch. The other lions will not be
Two humans face near death; they have the choice between eating a rabbit or themselves...
Xgya2000 10 months ago
@shuhada786
Ever saw a dog smile? They can sure be happy. They also feel when you're alone and try to comfort you all the more. I call that empathy. Monkeys have this VERY diverse gestual language, and their facial expressions are very close to ours when they feel the same thing.
If evolution happened as you said, we would all look identical, for we would all have the same traits. The fact is the environment where species move to affects their behaviour and evolution greatly.
Xgya2000 10 months ago
@shuhada786
Not exactly. In many societies, sharing is better than simply trying to do all you can alone. For example, cheetahs live along their brothers in small bands, looking for females in their area. Knowing one cheetah alone wouldn't be enough to protect themselves and a female, they cooperate. Anyways, their genes will be almost the same from having the same parents.
If a single pirhana dies, it affects the whole group's ability to get food, so they don't fight over it.
Xgya2000 10 months ago
@shuhada786
Morality has evolutionary advantages, especially because we are a social species
Human babies are born so fragile they have to be tended to far longer than most animals. This is because our brain cases are so big that if we developed completely in the womb, every birth would kill the mother. So we are born incomplete, and are taken care of by our parents
About living in society: again, we are fragile and weak when alone, so we learned to hunt in groups. Pirhanas don't kill each other
Xgya2000 10 months ago
@shuhada786 you keep going on about evolution as if its my religion. Evolution just explains the diversity of live. some genes help the organism survive so it is passed down to the next generation. Our survival depends on ppl working together, it would be bad if we started slaughtering each other for no reason. So in us was built something known as ''empathy'' i have it maybe you dont is that finally clear.
Moh5Itachi1 10 months ago
@shuhada786 democracy is nonsense huh? i guess and autocracy is much better right. As far as freedom goes i am free, but my freedom ends where someone else freedoms begin. Very simple concept and you cant understand it.
Moh5Itachi1 10 months ago
@shuhada786 because i have something called empathy maybe you dont. If your saying that your faith is the only thing that stops you from doing something like raping children then your not moral at all. I'm proud to say that a belief in the bogyman is not what stops me. Thats a big thing to reveal about yourself.
Moh5Itachi1 10 months ago
@shuhada786 you show me any islamic ''miracle'' and I'll show its bullshit, like the salt and fresh water crap :P
Moh5Itachi1 11 months ago
@shuhada786 That's like me saying "quran suggests that there are two gods! you can't show me that there are two gods? haha islam is wrong"
Did you just read what I said? Or are you going to remain an ignoramus who is unable to read a civil response to your question?
teenspirit1 11 months ago
@shuhada786 Your question is wrong in the first place. Evoution never suggests that there is a link between "monkey and man". Monkey is the end of a phylogenic branch just like the humans. There has been a separation about 8000-10000 generations ago (DNA evidence), and before that time, more than twenty distinct species have been identified as the predecessor of homo sapiens.
teenspirit1 11 months ago
@shuhada786 /watch?v=gwohI1bN5mg
/watch?v=xKy122yIKik
Moh5Itachi1 11 months ago
@Moh5Itachi1 this videos just shows the nonsense of Islamic ''science'' and you cant handle it.
Moh5Itachi1 11 months ago
@shuhada786 Just read what you said. Allah creates everything, and some of them are idiots? That's like throwing a brick in the air, and when it hits your head, you curse it. God of the universe who created everything shouldn't need to threaten anyone. About science you listen to imam bullshit instead of scientists. You are a proof that religion spreads through ignorance.
teenspirit1 11 months ago
@shuhada786 Why would an omnipotent all powerful being need to threaten his own creation? Please look at it from the perspective of a grownup.. oh wait, nevermind.
teenspirit1 11 months ago
@dionysius09 If "[you] cannot, on [your] own, come to right conclusions about anything," then how can you assert that you correctly concluded that God and Jesus are the source of wisdom?
nichtmuttersprachler 11 months ago
Answer to your question the point of sending messenger was so that people like you who don’t believe in god won’t have an excuse when you meet god. And god himself is protecting the Quran and you don’t know this because god him said so, you know this because it is in the hearts of Muslim. Muslims have been memorising the Quran from the time of the last messenger of god till now. Read the Quran. if you want truth you can find it just look for it. p.s any more question you have feel free to ask
REALDAWAH 11 months ago
OK we have only written words. "Eli, Eli Lema Sabakhtani" (it sounds almost identical to Arabic). This written words do not proof that Jesus was crucified. In my opinion Bible is not trustworthy, because there are many different versions of the Bible. There are many Gospels. The Gospel of Barnabas is different from the Gospel of Peter etc. And the writers of all these Gospels have never seen Jesus in their lives.
TheMarocadnan 11 months ago
@TheMarocadnan
Well, Muhammad did not see Jesus in his life either, and the chances he ever talked to someone who did are slim at best.
Written words are not proof that Moses ever existed, yet you still claim he did.
The fact the Gospels are different is because none of them were written right after the fact, only from hearsay. However, none of the gospels contradict the crucifixion, meaning it is one of the actions that has the most chances to have happened.
Xgya2000 11 months ago
@Xgya2000
TheMarocadnan 11 months ago
Jesus was never crucified according to the Gospel of Barnabas. If you want to read this Gospel w w w Barnabas net. The nobel Prophet Muhammad received Words from God (Quran). These Words of God were learnt by heart and recorded by a large number of Muslims. The Quran is not Mohammed own words, but a direct revelations of God.
TheMarocadnan 11 months ago
@TheMarocadnan
You are the one saying that the qu'ran isn't Muhammad's own words (even though many of the "revelations" help Muhammad more than they do any other man). The qu'ran says so too.
So, a book tells that it's author did not compose it. And you believe that.
Meaning that if I ever wrote down that I was not the author of my own text, and that they are God's word, every muslim would believe me?
Xgya2000 11 months ago
@Xgya2000
How can I explain it to you? I think It very easy to distinguish truth from falsehood. When reciting the Quran you feel peace, pure love, and mercy. And the Qur'an uplifts the spirit and puts peace and tranquility into your heart and soul. The words of God sounds beautiful and powerful. I don't think I will reach this with your own text, even if you claim that the text is from God.
Please ljust isten to (watch?v=eYurgt1F_MY). What do you think?
TheMarocadnan 11 months ago
@TheMarocadnan
I can feel pure love, mercy and peace when I listen to a few movies. Does that make all those movies true and divinely inspired?
I don't think a soul exists, but if anything, said movies and many books put my heart at ease. Their subject is beautiful and powerful.
Provoking an emotional reaction is proof of a good artist. Not of god. Ergo, your only proof that the qu'ran isn't just someone writing a nice poem applies to my movies and books.
Xgya2000 11 months ago
@Xgya2000
Of course you can like anything you want (like movies), but it sounds to me a little bit crazy to call these movies divinely inspired. The Quran is a healing of hearts. Believe me if you read the Quran with an open heart you will immediately touched by the beauty, elegance and wisdom of Verses of the Quran.
You don't believe in a soul! do you believe that you have a mind? If yes, what scientific evidence do you have?
TheMarocadnan 11 months ago
@TheMarocadnan
If divine inspiration causes healing of the heart, than all of what I mentioned above corresponds to your definition. "If you watched the movies with an open heart, you will immediately touched by the beauty....." - Does that sound any familiar?
A mind is the product of the brain. Every time I think about something in particular, a specific part of my brain generates electricity. The same part that lights up when a child has an imaginary friend does when someone prays, by the way
Xgya2000 11 months ago
@Xgya2000
hahaha ok next time I will watch movies with an open heart :). To be honest I don't expect too much. Any way, the Quran has many scienitic miracles proving that is a revelation from God. A man, who can't read or write, from the desert, more than 1,400 years ago (Mohammed) will never know about the working of the ozone layer (per example). It is impossible to be written 1,400 years ago by a man from the desert. w w w miraclesofthequran com.
TheMarocadnan 11 months ago