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  • Oldman got suckered into buying one of these pieces of shit, 160hrs & its fucked the injectors yet again!! Going to upgrade to something reliable, toss up between a Suzuki or Yamaha.

  • i dont think the yamaha was a real engine why would they let it sink and fuck it theyre worth over $10k

  • e-tec equals lots of headaches

  • The yamaha didn't win because it took an arrow to the knee...

  • Okay ppl, yes it is true that the Evinrude E-Tec has more power than the Yamaha, BUT, the torque required to overturn a boat and motor of the same size is impossible to do unless the other motor was at a serious disadvantage. Like, oh say not running at all? Any true boater will laugh at this video because it was fabricated to make Evinrude's E-Tec look immensely superior. Anyone who believes this vid needs to take a crash course on boating...

  • wow lost respect for this stupid video from evinrude

  • Is that yamaha for sale? I'll take it! probably still runs perfect......

  • Two Stroke vs Four Stroke, Hmm lets see 2stroke is always going to have more thrust retards! Lets use the same motors and test fuel economy and reliability, my guess is that the Honda will be towing the e-tec home in the end!

  • What kind of retard would not cut the motor once it was clear the boat he was towing was going to get swamped? Fucking idiots.

  • 2 stroke vs 4 stroke 

  • for all you e-tec haters, iv had both motors, e-tecs have a hell of a lot more horsepower and gets on a plain in about 3 seconds flat

  • as an owner of 200hp Yamaha 4 stroke, I can absolutely 100% tell you ( not just guess) that i can not pull 90kg skier out the water! i am swapping mine for an evinrude! the Yamaha is extremely reliable and quiet but it lacks power! if a had of bought a 6.5m boat like i wanted, doubt it would get up and plain! My 585 hainshunter takes about 12 to 20 seconds to get up to plain! with all this said this the two engines cannot not compared! 2 stoke has always had more torque!

  • i own an evinrude e tec 175 hp 2009 an i am 100% sutisfied ! no smoke , low sound ,much power and no proplems !

  • evnirude made this video, etec is good outboard but this video is full of shit, yamaha did not go full throttle. it's obvious, yamaha can sue BRP for that.

  • Epa Test results, the etec was the cleanest though

    250 Verado:-656NM at 4000

    250 E-TEC:-575NM at 3091

    250 Suzuki:-313NM at 4500

    250 Yamaha:-303NM at 4000

  • For this test I would fit a prop with a shallower pitch to get maximum thrust when the boat is almost stationry.

  • put e-tech in the evo XI not some hybrid-disel bullcrap -.-

  • lol dumbest bullshit ive seen in a while, both motors are like 3 feet under water, thats bullshit, but seem to be tilted below level, when they should be tilted a few degrees above level, and anyone every heard of buying a power lift? or making a manual lift? my teacher have a similar set up, two boats, 90 yamaha 4 stroke, and 90 evinrude etec, the etec runs to shit, cant idle, hard to start, and loud, and takes alot of gas, bullshit commercial

  • Man the 2 stroke vs 4 stroke battle never ends. yes this is false advertisement bacause its an etec ad. anyway etec would have won because its a 2 stroke but in a less dramatical way. u cant say that one engine is better than any other. all of them have there pros and cons. but to make it clear 2 stoke has more torque than a 4 stroke. thats just the way it is and works.

  • By the way the professional and scientific way to do this test is to hitch each boat in turn to a line incorporating a spring balance which is secured to a bollard on shore. That's the proper way to measure pulling power.

  • A convincing test. Now we know an Evinrude can pull a Yamaha underwater provided no one puts the Yamaha in gear.

  • @newsnetuk The Yamaha was running, the kill switch activated when he fell out of the boat!! Duh!!

  • Only people that cant afford etecs bragg about em

  • would have been a test if they had the yamaha on full throttle

  • Seems they waited until they already had the boat moving backwards to open the throttle. Rigged, it looks like.

  • FUCKING BULLSHIT. They never even started the Yamaha.

  • E-tecs are nice motors, but if rigging a new boat with a kicker, the smallest Evinrude has is a 15. Not cool to have a brand new boat with different makes of engines.

    Thats why I went with Yamaha. Have a Campion 542 with Yamaha 150 and 8. Sweet rig.

    This must cost them some sales!

  • I'm not out there to pull shit. I have got the need for speed...Mercury

  • The owner of this video is a fucking liar, WHERE is the THRUST from YAMAHA?????????????????

    You must be very STUPID to believe this video!

  • @aa11080 If the Yamaha wasen't producing thrust then it wouldent be underwater in the video.

  • the evinrude has always been able to do that, they're torquey bjtches... this test is useless and traumatic ;__;

  • I had an Evinrude, TERRIBLE, EMBARASSING, and it Ruined my summer 2010, sold it and bought a YAMAHA with 10hp LESS! and it was a nice, LOVELY, and reliable engine.

    Never believe this advert, I owned both of them, and know the reality.

  • All the blokes with Etecs seem to want to constantly justify their choice. It has become very boring. I doesn't matter who it is, they will constanlty tell you how much better thier Etec is over all the 4 Strokes. They are such an insecure bunch!! I am so glad I bought a Suzi...

  • Still looking for the yamaha kicking evinrude's ass vids in anything................

  • This "ad" of sorts, is such bullshit.... We have run both in our charter boat fleet. We made the mistake of buying etec engines. All (5) engines were 225 Etec. We had MASSIVE downtime with injector problems, powerheads, lower units and literally dozens of electrical issues. We ended up selling ALL the etec motors and bought Yamaha engines within a year.

    For those who don't know, the Yamaha 150 is only a 4-cylinder engine and a 4-stroke at that.... At least get a V6 Yammy 2-stroke to compare

  • we all know that evinrude E-TEC is so much better than all 4 strokes

  • What a waste of a fucken boat and motor. Was it nesscary to really wreck the other boat, what the fuck. Yamaha 2stroke Vmax would of blew that fucker away.

  • Wow the Yamaha was at 0 rpm? :)

  • Bullshit Test.

  • Yea, might be a test if they had started the Yamaha

    

  • @JeeperTJnYJ Umm y is it bubling

  • @JeeperTJnYJ The Yamaha was running, the kill switch activated when he fell out of the boat!! Duh!!

  • @JeeperTJnYJ The Yamaha was running, the kill switch activated when he fell out of the boat!! Duh!!

  • @JeeperTJnYJ they didnt even give the yamaha any power down

  • @JeeperTJnYJ Is this stupid or what, Evenrude Etec must be desperate to come up with this.I love my Yamaha.:-P

  • 4 stroke dirtbikes are easir to run maintain and are better for trail riding

  • Yamaha advertises it's four strokes have the same torque as the E-tec. Rediculous. It's not a fake test. A two stroke will ALWAYS have more low end torque than a four stroke. The also run at higher RPM's. It's the same reason you don't see four strokes on chain saws, weed eaters or dirt bikes.

    It's the torque....stupid.

  • @phinfan1972 they do have 4stroke dirt bikes but they cant compare to a 2stroke dirt bike whatsoever. they run the 250cc 2 strokes against the 450cc 4strokes cause there slow as hell.

  • @phinfan1972  They make 4-stroke dirtbikes and Honda actually does make a 4stroke weed eater both of which are very good products

  • See how Evinrude doesn't have the guts to compare to a Honda.

  • @bk5593 u jokin? honda? lol its the motor with the least power

  • @cvcgac No it's not. And if it had the least amount of power then why does the US coast guard and most of the military use Honda's for offshore boats? Caus they are dependable and powerful

  • I bet a 2 stroke v-max would have sunk the e-tec lamo test...

  • Totally fake... If the Yamaha had been running, you would have seen some sort of propwash or wake from behind it. All you see is the E-tec's. Sure it may be a powerful motor, but it certainly dosen't have the torque to flat out-power the Yamaha and flip it if the Yamaha had been pulling. Do the people that make these commercials take us for complete idiots? Apparantly so...

  • Almost all boat engines are roughly the same in design and performance. It's not like one engine has some super nuclear fusion thermal proton converter... So this engine is designed for torque as a criteria.. yawn.... What to really focus on: LONG TERM LIFE... almost all engines will have roughly the same performance specs... how often does it start? how often does it have to be replaced? What will Salt Water do to the engine. Now that's more important than a GAYASS tug of useless war.

  • evinrude is 2 stroke engine - yamaha 4 stroke !!! This is a stupid test...FAKE

  • @underwatertube91 the yamaha would have won being a four stroke and thus having more torque

  • @GameFishermen wrong.

  • In addition to being misleading, he convinced me to sell and buy E-Tec Yamaha

  • why don't they give me the yammie instead of drowning it?

  • Evinrude FTW

  • i work on out boards if you want a two stroke the optimax are the best thing out there yamaha makes a great motor in the f150 but the v6 are starting to have corrosion problems in the power heads and mid sections the best four stroke are the suzy's for the price and warranty cant beat them hondas and verados are great if you can afford them but both have had their issues

  • e tec has way more low end torc and top speed

  • The Yamaha Needs a Bail A Matic!

  • Cool, But I'd be interested to see the same test only with Merc Optimax 150 instead of the Yammy. I don't really have any brand loyalty, i just prefer 2 stroke outboards to 4 strokes

  • YAMAHA ARE THE BEST ENGINES IN THE WORLD!!

  • Huepowered you dont know what the hell your talking about,

  • FACT: two strokes will always out torque four strokes of the same power. what's the point of this video? I'm pretty sure ANY 2 stroke of the same hp and do the same thing

  • yamaha has got no chance of winning

  • yamaha seems that doesnt accelerate at all...I think thats fake...

  • @aris17561 if it was a FAKE the yamaha whouldent of sunk like that. it was real.

  • yamaha is the best motor all around. Use the evinrude's and verado's for the lakes and ponds. Yamaha is the king!!!!!

  • lmfao the yamaha doesnt even give er

  • is this an accurate way to measure torque? lol and im sure e tecs and super emissions that can pass in cali and what not, so i assume this test was out side state lines? why not use a dyno to show torque, hors power, etc,,,,

  • i still cant believe that johnson is out, but i will never trust a japanese motor and i have one

  • I own a 2007 225 etec and can vouch for the validity of this information I sink f4 riceballs every day

  • i owned a etec glad to get rid of it to much fuel

  • Iam an omc guy but this video is BS! there is no wake from the yamaha propeller. as far as iam concerned there really isn't a bad outboard out there its all how you maintain your engine yamaha is one of the top engines out there! I would buy any of them accept merc lol just kidding it is my least faviorite though.

  • I would still have the Yamaha, clearly biased.

  • Yamaha was found to be the most expensive to run in fuel and maintenance. Plus they are chunks of concrete!

  • Interesting thing is you see no thrust at all from the yahama only for a brief moment. Oh it is a e-tec commercial LMAO. Funny thing is I was a die hard OMC owners till they started making crap, blown heads, failed gear boxes. Since I have had Suzuki which was flawless, Yamaha Flawless and Mercury Flawless. OMC has to do something in there deperate attempt to regain marketshare.

  • @Vflier there is nothing wrong with omc its when bombedier bought omc.

  • @huntfishutah BRP made the evinrude so much better then when omc had it what are you talking about i mean there was a reason why it went out of business

  • @ChevyMan2195 wat ever i like omc much better

  • @Vflier you realize omc has been out of business for 15 years right?

  • @ChevyMan2195 NO, it was 1999, more like 12 years??

  • @Vflier not omc anymore they are owned by bombardier

  • @Vflier omc doesnt own evinrude anymore bombardier does. this video is legit but it isnt really fair. A 2 stroke engine will always beat a 4 stroke engine. And if i were to buy a new boat motor today i would get an evinrude or maybe a merc but not a yamaha. They arent as powerful and i have 2 neighbors who own new ones and theres broke on them. right now i have a 75 70hp evinrude and it works amazing for having thousands of hours on it. the only thing ive had to replace is the steering

  • @Vflier Mercury flawless? holyshit are you on drugs or somthing mercury makes the worst piece of shit motors

  • a two-stroke engine is accelerating much faster than a four-stroke do. yamaha v-max 150 vs evinrude e-tec 150 who win? of course the yamaha will win

  • Matt don't believe what u see on the video, they know how to make people buy e-tec

  • All u have to do is put a less pitch prop and u can pull anything!!!

  • But something more realistic and less advertising was better.

  • Put yamaha sho against the e-tec,and will see the e-tec sink!!!! Take that to the bank.

  • okay for all you idiots who say it's fake, look up the advantages of 2 stroke over 4 stroke. the only advantage of a 4 stroke is those ass wholes at PETA dont bother you about polution

  • That's fake, guys!!!

  • putts o evinrude nem tiro o yamaha kkkkkkkkkk

  • Just take a yamaha 2 stroke and this video would be called yamaha sinks evinrude e-tec

  • If you want to do it fare take than a yamaha 2 stroke and do it again than this movie would be called Yamaha sinks evinrude e-tec

  • They should of compared it with an hpdi as of course the two stroke has more torque. High Pressure Direct Injected two stroke would take the E-TEC down!!!

  • @gmarinetech e-tec is and direct injected two stroke engine....you fail......

  • @soverato3 Who said the E-tec wasn't. The yamaha they compare it to is not a D.I. so the comparison isn't fair. Maybe you should take reading comprehension classes at your local adult school :-)

  • @gmarinetech well i live in holland here we speak 4 languages and you (american) only 1 or 2 so..

    doe niet zo dom......du bist eine droll........etc

  • @soverato3 and you AMERICAN...sounds like you have a lot of hate bottled up inside you. Yes Im american and proud to be. Just dont try to play teacher on the playground anymore...enough said.

    

  • @gmarinetech no you got me wrong i have nothing agains americans only agains you.

    well you tell me my english is bad but i try to speak english you cant speak anything accept english so

    stop fucking about languages....

  • I wouldnt put a two stroke on my boat.. Verado all the way baby ;-)

  • What a waste of a good boat.

  • Yamaha got the head start. Look at 0:52

  • thats cheap. the etech cant beat the vmax so they line it up with a fourstroke. or put a 250 etech against the new yamaha vmax sho and that etech will sink like a rock.

  • @espboy8816

    video from 4 years ago...

  • @espboy8816 yes I agree!!

  • "Everything possible was done to ensure a fair test"?  Bold faced lie. How about making sure they are both two-stroke motors for starters. I don't mind Evinrude, but its a turn off when they lie like that to try to make their product seem better.

  • No wonder Evinrude win, that's for damn a two stroke and accelerates faster a four stroke! Compare with a 150 hp yamaha vmax instead!

  • @Habymatte Evinrude is demonstrating that they can make a 2 stroke engine more powerful and efficient than a 4 stroke engine. Every boat owner should know that 2 stroke engines have massive torque.

  • Norway¨s company :D

  • Clearly biased, if you look at the guys using outboards in industry and military, most of it is Yamaha

  • Lameeeeo......... Ya see the 2 stroke gots more torqe than a

    4 stroke never think bout buying a evenrude etec over a yamaha I mean etecs are good but the yamaha over that common want more than buy a mercury verado

  • perfect waste of a boat and engine

  • targeted to idiots - I wish I had not seen that. Im thinking of E-tec for my new boat.

  • Evinrude. are CRAP.. NEVER by one.. the EVINRUDE started first.. thus given a head started pull...

    you can clearly see that yahama hadnt even began.. STAGGED

  • @Someguynamedbanning if you look carefully again you can see the yamaha powered boat try to jump on plane then Evinrude. and don't call me biased cause I'm a Honda kind of guy

  • son una mierda acabo de venir de tiro se quemo otro inyector a los 6 meses me cambiaron el cabezal x que andaba para el culo

  • i dont get how you can test a 2 stroke againt a four stroke..why dont they do a tug of war with a mercury optimax....

  • 2 stroke and 4???bad test

  • MUITO LEGAL MESMO, ÓTIMO.GOSTEI MUITO.

  • This is the most Bias test I ever seen. One it's a 2 stroke up againts a 4 stroke. and you will see the Yammi never even hit the throttle..

    LAME!!

  • Evinrude is great... ya dee da da... Why are there so many Yamaha 4 Strokes vs. Evinrudes E-Tec out there? The people have spoken!

  • yo i got a suzki can kill this

    

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  • This is pretty understandable. 2-strokes are known for more torque (development of more HP at higher loads or acceleration), but is that how people boat? by tug-o-war-ing other boats? There's a reason they chose this test instead of a straight-up race with two like boats. That being said, I thing the E-tecs are nice engines. This test is real, no doubt, but it's pure useless propaganda.

  • the yami gets a little bit of a head start...look at about (0:52), it lunges forward before the evinrude even hits the throtle!

  • Fake? What outboard holds the last three speed records? Give you a hint, it all started way back in 1907 because of an ice cream cone had melted.

  • @schymcgee notice it fake because if u look at the yammaha did not have the max at the beginning

  • @schymcgee So you believe that ol' wives tale about Ole Evinrude and the ice cream cone, huh? It never happened. Read "Iron Fist, The Lives of Carl Kiekhaefer" and the author Jeff Rodengen exposes that myth along with a ton of other marine myths of the day. It is a good read. Waterman developed the first workable outboard 5 years before Evinrude got into the game.

  • Jesus H Spicoli! This is the most dishonest demonstration I've seen in quite a while. There is no way you should be comparing the torque of a 2-stroke motor against that of the Yamaha's 4-stroke motor - it isn't even a meaningful test for everyone know you don't buy a 4-stroke for it's torque. You buy a 4 stoke because it's quiet and helps you enjoy boating more - or sneak up on fish.

  • There are better ways to prove that your engine is better than sinking a perferectly good boat. But its your money, not mine.

  • they are both 4 stroke

  • @FOXRACING2714 fail the Evinrude is a 2stroke and the yamaha is a 4stroke

    2stroks have all ways made more torque lb for lb and the 2stroke has all ways been a much stronger motor and the only thing new is how clean the new 2stroks run

    my 9.9 2stroke 92 mod will pull up a 100lb person on skies behind my 14' alumacraft boat and a new 4stroke 9.9 will never get them out of the water

  • @dexter2433 go to evinrude's website...they do a emissions test against yami and merc, evinrude was the cleanest running of the three.

  • @dexter2433 THATS A FAIL!!! who uses a 10 horsepower engine for skiing??

  • fake

  • great!

  • Fake!!

  • Hopefully no fuel was dumped into the water.

  • the e-tec starts first which gives it a massive advantage

  • @james3765733 bull watch the video again you can see the guy in the yamaha get the jump

  • K, lets see e-tec vs. yamaha vmax sho.

  • This test seems biased. Note how the Yamaha engine is not creating water turbulence on commencing of test. Perhaps no or not full throttle? Very very unconvincing. 

  • If two strokes where that powerfull cars would be two strokes but they don't have the talk ..... Wake up people

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  • i bet after the pull off the evinrude had to be re-built and the yamaha just fired up again!

  • My 10 yr old 150hp Jonson went dead 5 years ago. Cranckshaft broke. I had a choice. Fix it for $3000 or get E-tec for $11000. I opted for E-tec. Never had any problems after that. I put about 100 hours a year. Even after 6 months of witer storage it starts on the first spin.

  • the evinrude probably needed a rebuild after that while the yamaha probably started right up after it got out of the water LoL

  • Useless to compare 2 strokes engine with a 4: With same size, a 2 stroke is more powerful than a 4... but consumes more fuel and pollutes more (oil burned) - That means: better for occasional use (sport, entertainment, etc.), worse for all-days use. So this "test" does NOT mean that Evinrude is better of Yamaha (may be, but not by this test)...

  • @BradipoNinja E-tec is not quite the same as other 2 strokes because of its fuel injection system. Polution satisfies all the requierments in US. As a long term use, I can tell you that all small Police and Coast Guard boats are using E-Tecs. At least in NYC bay areas.

  • evinrude e-tec i migliori motori che anno mai fatto

  • You guys still dont notice that the yamaha was never in gear.

  • bullshit e-tec is fucking junk yamaha is the best i had them all i am a commercial fisherman the e-tec last me 1000 hours the yamaha last me 4500 hours go with yamaha not with e-tec is a piece of shit

  • @delacroixla

    how many times did you change the oil on the yami? a lot

    how many times did you change theoil on the e tec? oh wait you dont!

    how many valve adjustments did you do on the e-tec? oh wait none!

  • @delacroixla

    1000 hours bullshit I've owned them all and this evinrude is the best buy

    funny that the water police have now changed from yamaha to etec Dah!

    do the maths

  • paidiaeimai of GREECE, to tell you that the video does not show us the fuel number prop and what important for those who know not they put the model corresponding respectively WHICH yamaha direct injection to see what a yamaha for ever

  • thats the point of the whole test to prove that 2 strokes are better than 4 stroke hands down!!! mercury has not a chance either they are heavier than a yamaha and produces less power

  • A two stoke has more torque and a better hole shot and will plane faster so offcourse the 4 stroke will fail. Lets see that test with a optimax or hpdi VMAX and see the results.

  • Notice that they compared to the Yamaha 4-stroke. To keep it fair, they should have compared to a Yamaha V-max HPDI (2-stroke direct injection just like the e-tec!).

    Id also like to know the prop on the Yamaha because there is a nice stainless steel one on the e-tec! Prop an engine (or more specifically the boat) correctly and it will have a completely different attitude.

    One thing is for sure, the Yamaha name has a MUCH better reputation -ask any one or any mechanic.

  • Notice that they compared to the Yamaha 4-stroke. To keep it fair, they should have compared to a Yamaha V-max HPDI (2-stroke direct injection just like the e-tec!).

    Id also like to know the prop on the Yamaha because there is a nice stainless steel one on the e-tec! Prop an engine (or more specifically the boat) correctly and it will have a completely different attitude.

    One thing is for sure, the Yamaha name has a MUCH better reputation -ask any one or any mechanic.

  • u put that new 250 sho on the back of the other boat. it would be a different story.

  • not fair, two strokers have an advantage..

    Replace the yamaha with a volvo diesel and the e tec will get ''sinked''

  • Yeah the e tec may pull it but good luck breaking the yamaha because you never will. my uncle baught a ranger with a 150 etec and he has already had problems with it in less then a year. a fuel injector alreday went out and will just shut off when in idle

  • you are the retard, MERCURY SUCKS BALLS!!!

  • Buyer beware.Bomadiers does not warranty problems caused by ethenol.I had less than 20 hrs on a 2008-115hp.New fuel injectors and water pump=$2700

  • Well my four stroke Yamaha 115 gets me there and uses less gas, more reliable, fast starting every time, but the only down side is it doesn't kill the bugs.

  • im an etec fan, But have twin 225 yamaha's on my boat and they are pretty good engines, It isnt fair to compare 2 stroke to 4 stroke. my 2 stroke yamahas put out tons of torque.

  • would have been better if it pulled a honda or a suzi under.