@jrosie3 I'm not a fan of the state of affairs in the US, but people really need to stop exaggerating. Sure...our government's fucked up, but one of the reasons it's so fucked up is because people exaggerate so much and demagogue to make a rhetorical point. People need to fucking get a grip and stop being such fatalistic pussies so they stop dividing and conquering us by attrition, which is the real tragedy.
@Try2MakeSenseOrSTFU I think we've disagreed on some issues in the past, but your summation of why are government is "fucked up" is one of the best descriptions I've read. I don't know how old you are but I'm old enough to remember when we had Statesmen as elected officials who routinely collaborated to achieve bi-partisan compromise on important issues. We rarely see that today from either side of "the aisle", but less so from the right side.
@kaysandesses Marxism is a proponent of violent revolution. Obama is a Marxist. With the new debt ceiling of almost 16.5 trillion dollars today, I know now how he intends to start the revolution. He will spend until the streets are filled with torch and pitchfork bearing people, and he will mow them down like lemmings.
@jag10@jag10 do you feel clever hey why don't we wash our clothes with our hands even though we have a washing machine. your like those republicans making fun of Obama about his Teleprompter whiles they were reading their joke off of one. Facepalm i would like to see you speak in front of millions of people champ
I understand, but this team of writers is over the top - from speeches to foreign policy narratives. Hollywood written narratives is nothing new, but the use of Hollywood writers in a State of the Union address is unprecedented. Go plug yourself back in to your electric joo, I've got better things to do than discuss fairy tales and Jersey Shore with the likes of you.
...Isn't it the PRESIDENT who's supposed to submit his own legislation and announce it via the SOTU, not the other way around? At least, that's the tradition as I recall.
@writekennys That really was the best part, wasn't it? It was a long, agonized "nOOOoooooooohhh..." as the thought suddenly occurred to some asshole congressman that he might have done all that pavement stomping, hand shaking and baby kissing to get elected for nothing.
@PersonalJesus348 Actually, indefinite detention started less than a week after 911 under George W. The only thing 2012 NDAA added was a clause that reaffirms it. In other words...it didn't change shit. In OTHER other words, you're demagoguing.
You're forgetting an important provision. It allows the indefinite detention of United States Citizens on U.S. Soil! That's the most oppressive bill I've ever heard. And he signed it into law! Even though he said he wouldn't. Lying through his teeth.
@PersonalJesus348 Detain ny person "who was part of or substantially supported al-Qaeda, the Taliban, or associated forces that are engaged in hostilities against the United States or its coalition partners," and anyone who commits a "belligerent act" against the U.S. or its coalition allies in aid of such enemy forces, under the law of war." Your exaggerating your ass off. Look outside your window. Do you see the MP arresting regular folks? NO...so stop demagoguing.
@PersonalJesus348 I'm naive? No..you're just a fucking cry baby...that's all there is to it. I don't even fucking like Obama, but I can't stand whiners. Your life hasn't changed AT ALL since you were born! None of your rights have been infringed upon. I swear...you hyper liberal fucktards are just as bad as neo-cons. lol
and immature. A cry baby is just ad hominem. How does that change the facts? And fact is it has gotten worse. Tried looking or keeping a job lately? Seen how many government programs fund living for people now compared to my birth? Its gotten worse!
"I have signed the Act chiefly because it authorizes funding for the defense of the United States and its interests abroad, crucial services for service members and their families, and vital national security programs that must be renewed . . . I have signed this bill despite having serious reservations with certain provisions that regulate the detention, interrogation, and prosecution of suspected terrorists." - President Obama
@PersonalJesus348 Hey, it's your posts that suggest you haven't read the statement. Your opinion of whether or not the President was being sincere doesn't really interest me.
@PersonalJesus348 Your Irrelevant conclusion diverts attention away from the fact in dispute rather than addressing it directly. You changed subjects from NDAA 2012 when I asked if your rights had been infringed upon and how it has changed your life. And your best answer is that the evil government is providing financial assistance to more poor people? I don't get it. Are you saying Obama wants to make sure we're all well fed before sending in the black helicopters? lol
I'll end these wars, I end the patriot act, I'm for freedom people, I won't sign the NDAA.
Lies every last one. Romney will be the same. Anyone but RON PAUL is more of the same!!
RagnarOdinsson 1 month ago
this is bullshit
TokenTombstone 1 month ago
@jrosie3 I'm not a fan of the state of affairs in the US, but people really need to stop exaggerating. Sure...our government's fucked up, but one of the reasons it's so fucked up is because people exaggerate so much and demagogue to make a rhetorical point. People need to fucking get a grip and stop being such fatalistic pussies so they stop dividing and conquering us by attrition, which is the real tragedy.
Try2MakeSenseOrSTFU 1 month ago
@Try2MakeSenseOrSTFU I think we've disagreed on some issues in the past, but your summation of why are government is "fucked up" is one of the best descriptions I've read. I don't know how old you are but I'm old enough to remember when we had Statesmen as elected officials who routinely collaborated to achieve bi-partisan compromise on important issues. We rarely see that today from either side of "the aisle", but less so from the right side.
kaysandesses 1 month ago
This has been flagged as spam show
@kaysandesses Marxism is a proponent of violent revolution. Obama is a Marxist. With the new debt ceiling of almost 16.5 trillion dollars today, I know now how he intends to start the revolution. He will spend until the streets are filled with torch and pitchfork bearing people, and he will mow them down like lemmings.
1Makyo 1 month ago
@jrosie3 Who said I was defending Obama?? wtf?! WHO THE FUCK SAID I WAS ONE OF HIS FOLLOWERS!?!?!?
Try2MakeSenseOrSTFU 1 month ago
FUCK YOU BLOWBAMA and your FATass, UGLY wife MOOShell!
PilatusPorterPC6 1 month ago
Ron Paul for President in 2012.
Tamayo1980 1 month ago
Every time I go to tell a lie, I test it first in my head using Obama's voice. Works every time.
JustinLB82 1 month ago
Lies upon lies upon lies! Wake up America! The same entities the clown n chief is blasting fund his propaganda!
afroprepper 1 month ago
Oh look, its the sold out Mulatto Messiah in Chief shilling for the Military Industrial Complex again.
OmarThePug 1 month ago
@OmarThePug Mulatto? What's his ethnicity have to do with anything?
Try2MakeSenseOrSTFU 1 month ago
I think people are aware that the teleprompter in chief has separate wish list than what the speech writers are feeding us...
jag10 1 month ago
Comment removed
TheBrandond20 1 month ago
This has been flagged as spam show
@jag10 @jag10 do you feel clever hey why don't we wash our clothes with our hands even though we have a washing machine. your like those republicans making fun of Obama about his Teleprompter whiles they were reading their joke off of one. Facepalm i would like to see you speak in front of millions of people champ
TheBrandond20 1 month ago
@jag10 you realize all elected officials use teleprompters right? oh wait you are dumb as hell so probably not
utubeaccount00 1 month ago 3
@utubeaccount00
I understand, but this team of writers is over the top - from speeches to foreign policy narratives. Hollywood written narratives is nothing new, but the use of Hollywood writers in a State of the Union address is unprecedented. Go plug yourself back in to your electric joo, I've got better things to do than discuss fairy tales and Jersey Shore with the likes of you.
jag10 1 month ago
@jag10 yes like heading to the supermarket to buy out all of the tin foil
utubeaccount00 1 month ago
...Isn't it the PRESIDENT who's supposed to submit his own legislation and announce it via the SOTU, not the other way around? At least, that's the tradition as I recall.
whoo689 1 month ago
@whoo689 fool congress makes laws that's why they are called law makers look like you failed social studies buddy.
TheBrandond20 1 month ago
Obama will sign anything they send, NDAA, FISA, PATRIOT ACT, Bradley Manning rendition orders, SOPA.
The joke is he knows they wont send anything anyone wants.
TheTruthBomb 1 month ago
OBAMA 2012!!!
YaBoySharrod 1 month ago 7
No he fucking wouldn't!
But he knows they aren't gonna send it anyway, so there ya go!
OBAMA SAID...
Sorry.
I've stopped buying his shit right when he chickened on Gitmo.
Traitor!
Peas.
AceHoale 1 month ago
Who yelled Nooooo! to the insider trading ban?
writekennys 1 month ago 14
@writekennys Some republican.
shifragri 1 month ago
@writekennys That really was the best part, wasn't it? It was a long, agonized "nOOOoooooooohhh..." as the thought suddenly occurred to some asshole congressman that he might have done all that pavement stomping, hand shaking and baby kissing to get elected for nothing.
TrollBuster9090 1 month ago
@writekennys Darth Vader.
Praetorian04 1 month ago
Oh yeah, I see members of congress banning insider trading by members of congress...
corsikaa 1 month ago
He did sign the indefinite detention act.
PersonalJesus348 1 month ago
@PersonalJesus348 Actually, indefinite detention started less than a week after 911 under George W. The only thing 2012 NDAA added was a clause that reaffirms it. In other words...it didn't change shit. In OTHER other words, you're demagoguing.
Try2MakeSenseOrSTFU 1 month ago
@Try2MakeSenseOrSTFU
You're forgetting an important provision. It allows the indefinite detention of United States Citizens on U.S. Soil! That's the most oppressive bill I've ever heard. And he signed it into law! Even though he said he wouldn't. Lying through his teeth.
PersonalJesus348 1 month ago
@PersonalJesus348 Detain ny person "who was part of or substantially supported al-Qaeda, the Taliban, or associated forces that are engaged in hostilities against the United States or its coalition partners," and anyone who commits a "belligerent act" against the U.S. or its coalition allies in aid of such enemy forces, under the law of war." Your exaggerating your ass off. Look outside your window. Do you see the MP arresting regular folks? NO...so stop demagoguing.
Try2MakeSenseOrSTFU 1 month ago
@Try2MakeSenseOrSTFU
You're so naive its not even funny. When you get rid of due process the only person you blame is Bush? OBAMA IS DOING WAY WORSE!
PersonalJesus348 1 month ago
@PersonalJesus348 I'm naive? No..you're just a fucking cry baby...that's all there is to it. I don't even fucking like Obama, but I can't stand whiners. Your life hasn't changed AT ALL since you were born! None of your rights have been infringed upon. I swear...you hyper liberal fucktards are just as bad as neo-cons. lol
Try2MakeSenseOrSTFU 1 month ago
@Try2MakeSenseOrSTFU
and immature. A cry baby is just ad hominem. How does that change the facts? And fact is it has gotten worse. Tried looking or keeping a job lately? Seen how many government programs fund living for people now compared to my birth? Its gotten worse!
PersonalJesus348 1 month ago
@PersonalJesus348
"I have signed the Act chiefly because it authorizes funding for the defense of the United States and its interests abroad, crucial services for service members and their families, and vital national security programs that must be renewed . . . I have signed this bill despite having serious reservations with certain provisions that regulate the detention, interrogation, and prosecution of suspected terrorists." - President Obama
kaysandesses 1 month ago
@kaysandesses
You act like I haven't read that statement before and didn't think Obama was full of shit.
PersonalJesus348 1 month ago
@PersonalJesus348 Hey, it's your posts that suggest you haven't read the statement. Your opinion of whether or not the President was being sincere doesn't really interest me.
kaysandesses 1 month ago
@PersonalJesus348 Your Irrelevant conclusion diverts attention away from the fact in dispute rather than addressing it directly. You changed subjects from NDAA 2012 when I asked if your rights had been infringed upon and how it has changed your life. And your best answer is that the evil government is providing financial assistance to more poor people? I don't get it. Are you saying Obama wants to make sure we're all well fed before sending in the black helicopters? lol
Try2MakeSenseOrSTFU 1 month ago
obama sounds feisty, problem is compromising with a neo-con is turning your back on the people.
tomitstube 1 month ago 2
eric cantor needs to lighten up.
savcola 1 month ago
just politics
HTX900s 1 month ago