@MsGiselleDancer Yeah, it's just never happened. So until it has happened we can't really say that. Also, Kidney Stones aren't really a problem anymore and I'd rather have Kidney Stones than Cancer.
The cancer prevention especially with defeats. Do not smoke, but play sports, eat plenty of fresh fruit and cereals, legumes and many little dough. Remove meat, eggs, milk and all its derivatives is very important to prevent serious diseases. I invite you to look "A Delicate Balance", you will find a video on You Tube. You will find all the answers!
I live in the UK and I recently posted a comment about the vitamin c IV treatment along with a lot of links to various sources of information and medical papers in the cancer research uk organistaion's forum online (in their topic of alternative treatments). And after just a few hours the moderator deleted the post. I think that is absolutely disgusting. But they know that if a treatment like this would destroy their organisation and make it obsolete. In other words, they would lose money.
I strongly suggest that people who will do this treatment or know anyone who is doing the treatment to document it with video evidence and save copies of the medical journal.. We need to show the rest of the world that this is a working effective treatment even though the mainstream medical institute wont acknowledge this as an alternative treatment and mock those who do.
@lazyx9 "video evidence and save copies of the medical journal"
If this treatment is effective then the firs step is, as you suggest, to document it and get the case studies published. From there it will be possible to raise the finds for a pilot study. Once you have one or two small, inexpensive, placebo controlled, blinded pilot studies anyone opposing the treatment would be hard pressed to prevent clinical trials.
Now you know why the family of Dung on GOD's plate, want to make Vitamin C illegal and or only available via prescription. Don't believe me? Check out a Youtube video called "codex alimentarius" they also want to make organic farming and back yard gardens illegal, look it up.
hahaha HAHAHA 100000 mg/day of vitamin C directly into the blood stream, you can´t even dissolve that!! Besides 12g (so 12000mg) is already considered lethal LD50. Hahahhaa.
@guachipiruli HA HA HA HA GENIUS....all I can tell you someone I know who was told that they only had 3 months of life...is now CANCER FREE after intravenous Vitamin C treatments...her oncologist is speechless since he was not told the treatment that was followed (most oncologists have no clue!!!)...the basis of this treatment was invented and supported by Dr. Linus Pauling (Two UNSHARED Nobel Prizes in Chemistry and something like 38 Phd's!!!)
@guachipiruli You have no idea what you are talking about. I AM a cancer survivor. NOchemo or radiation. Early in my IV Tx I received 100 gm (100,000 mg. of ascorbic acid) plus 7 other nutrients. I did that 3 times a week for sevrl wks then a weening process. I get booster IV's for peace of mind. Isn't it the saddest thing that we have taken many of our ntaions brightest, let them spend major $ for schooling and then they know nothing about making people well. They can write an Rx tho.
@Cathyvalaz you can attribute that to the Rothchild agent Rockefeller family whom took over both medicine and education in the early 1900s.while their Standard Oil Company prepared to begin making oil/petroleum based pharmaceuticals. Wicked men are not that bright though, thus some fallen filth shot down from heaven must be telling them what to do.
@PhuqueU It's funny people would trust any Rockefeller...Considering they were supplying the nazis with fuel for their bombers. And the Rothchilds...they also started the Great Depression right before that..Hmmm.
Do u think we took chemicals(drugs) 200 years ago? No we used things found in Nature. Cheap, inexpensive, and they actually work. So would someone out of all the assholes tell me how it could possibly be Quakery?
@1styankeefan Please show me some studies showing that things found in nature actually work. Do you think people really were as healthy 200 years ago?
@freemason98 yes. But colloidial is to big in size for a mineral, Angstrom is best as it is much smaller . Colloidal Minerals must pass through the digestive tract first. They may not be digested by those with digestion problems. Angstrom Minerals are so small that they are absorbed into the cells as soon as you put them in your mouth. They bypass the need for digestion and start the healing. Quicker absorption, Faster, Stronger results!
"silver has been documented to kill 350,000 diseaes"
Actually, that's not true, but a lot of people selling quack treatments repeat the claim.
Check out Quackcast 36. "Hi Ho Silver" to learn the TRUTH about using silver in medicine, including a roundup of the actual medical research on the topic.
my number i had before is actually incoorect, its actually 650, but silver is a mineral, for cancer, you want to raise teh bodies Ph, as if you were to test the ph of cancer patients they are like 4.6 and under. do a detox of the liver like a coffee enema which pures the live of all toxins, then add the mineral Ionic soulable angstrom mineral silver, as well as a few others. The body can heal itself!
It is clinical research, do your homework and you will find out ourself, im not making any claims as they have been proven already. Alkiline your body and watch any infection dissapeer!
@julianraw There have been two clinical studies on the use of Vitamin C to treat cancer:
Phase I clinical trial of i.v. ascorbic acid in advanced malignancy. Annals of Oncology
and
Pharmacologic doses of ascorbate act as a prooxidant and decrease growth of aggressive tumor xenografts in mice. Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences
The studies concluded that Vitamin C could slow tumor growth slightly, but not shrink tumors. That's a FAR cry from being better than chemo.
That's not actually possible. The human body's acidity is very stable. Most of the balancing goes on in the stomach. The worst case scenario is that a very highly acidic diet might result in calcium loss, which can be compensated for by adding calcium sources to your diet.
A lot of quacks spread the claim that your body's ph fluctuates, but they have no science to back up the claim..
If you actually read what i said as you are twisting my words around I said "do a detox of the liver like a coffee enema which purges the liver of all toxins" never said it cures anything.
its not meant to cure, its meant to force the poisons and toxins from the liver, and other areas. Only the body can cure itself, any treatment or therapy that anyone gives to the body it is the body that responds to it accordingly, it is never the "thing" that cures as nothing cures but the body itself.
@julianraw - it has also been documented sodium chlorite when added to vitamin c can oxidize the blood and help your body do what it is supposed to do naturally without surpressing pharmaceuticals, it seems halleyscomet prolly has a vested interest in big pharma.
"it has also been documented sodium chlorite when added to vitamin c can oxidize the blood and help your body do what it is supposed to do naturally without surpressing pharmaceuticals"
What exactly are you claiming here and what is your source? What biological processes are supposedly aided by the addition of "sodium chlorite" and vitamin C
@halleyscomet - if you dont have the answer to that question then clearly you have no idea what you are typing about. goodbye, if you really want to know, i would check with European Health Resources. Oh, that's right, you're not interested in helping people, just collecting their money.
In other words you can't actually name any studies that support your claims, but are perfectly capable of accusing anyone who asks for data of being a big pharma shill.
@halleyscomet - where's your evidence to the contrary? dont think i didnt miss that little tidbit, and i didnt call you a shill, that is your word. i have agreed to disagree, clearly i do not have studies right in front of me or i would email them to you, that takes research which i would be happy to do, if it helped a loved one. Your entire argument against me is based on one comment i made to a video exactly 2 mos ago. because i have faith in alternate medicine and you do not. cont...
"i have faith in alternate medicine and you do not"
When evidence is found that a treatment works, it ceases to be "alternate" medicine and becomes just plain old "medicine." "Alternative medicine" is by its very definition something for which there is no hard evidence of efficacy.
@halleyscomet - ok, now whose playing with semantics? I am done with this conversation, since you have found fault with this documentary, then i suggest you write a complaint to the FDA, i am not your man. btw, when "alternate" is put in front of medicine, it typically means, not covered by insurance in the medical profession and has nothing to with that fact that it may or may not have medicinal properties. out of respect for this user, this is my last comment on the subject.
"not covered by insurance in the medical profession"
Not in the USA.
Medicare spent close to a quarter BILLION covering so-called "alternative medicine" treatments in 2009. Try doing some research now and then, you'll look less foolish if you do.
@halleyscomet - if this documentary is clearly what you feel is an utter and complete lie, then why argue with little old me, maybe your complaint would be better heard with a bigger "herd."
Why would it? The two diseases have completely different causes. Besides, claiming Vitamin C is "better than chemo" is an irresponsibly overblown claim. There's some evidence it can help a little but that's a far cry from being a miracle cure.
@halleyscomet - Where in my comment did i say Vitamin C is "the miracle cure?" If you're going to challenge a comment or start a debate about something, be polite for starters, and secondly, if it can at least help in some form it should be allowed and covered by insurance, thirdly, there are Cancers of the blood, and since HIV is a blood borne disease there is most definitely a chance it could help at least prevent a patient from seroconversion prematurely, glass always half empty for you?
"Where in my comment did i say Vitamin C is "the miracle cure?""
I was referring to the rather comical video above that claims it's "better than chemo."
Comparing HIV to Multiple Myeloma is something of a stretch. It's just wild speculation to think a treatment for out of control cell growth will also treat a virus based immune disorder. The fact that blood is involved is far less of an equalizing factor than you seem to think.
@halleyscomet - Well to completely dismiss and not use any tactic we have in our arsenal to help those that are mentally and physically anguished is completely irresponsible and more to the fact, greed, on the part of doctors and insurance companies to not cover alternative remedies that have been used overseas that have been proven to work. I do not see the problem in giving patients every bit of help they deserve. So to call this "comical" show a definite lack of compassion and forethought.
What's your standard of evidence for "Proven to work"? It sounds like you accept a much lower bar than the kind of clinical trials used for approving drugs.
The video's very title claims that Vitamin C is "Better than Chemo" which is a flat out lie.
@halleyscomet - Well, what is your standard of evidence for the antithesis to your question? To call it a "flat out lie" implies that you have invested millions in proving it. so where is your evidence? I'll show u mine, if u show me yours. You are in no position to back the FDA considering all the foul ups they have made, particularly, with "Yaz" and all the H1N1 half dosage syringes that went out, not to mention the recent acetaminophen fiasco. lets just agree to disagree. cont...
There are no clinical trails or studies that conclude that "Vitamin C Better than Chemo for Cancer" yet the people who made the video feel compelled to make such an unfounded claim regardless. There's no evidence supporting the claim that "Vitamin C Better than Chemo for Cancer".
THEY are making medical claims without evidence, and in so doing are lying.
@halleyscomet - well, YOU, are basing your entire argument, i am assuming now on a 1:13 time stamp "youtube commercial." Why so passionate about something that clearly, you care nothing about? It seems u care more about "bunnies" than you do about humanity. What about sending Vitamin C to Haitians right now, to help block infections and keep them healthy, i bet you are opposed to that as well?
There have been two studies on the use of Vitamin C to treat cancer:
Phase I clinical trial of i.v. ascorbic acid in advanced malignancy. Annals of Oncology
and
Pharmacologic doses of ascorbate act as a prooxidant and decrease growth of aggressive tumor xenografts in mice. Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences
The studies concluded that Vitamin C could slow tumor growth slightly, but not shrink tumors. That's a FAR cry from being better than chemo.
@halleyscomet - How many participants? How old is this study? Was ascorbic acid treated on less malignant tissues or tumors? Your giving me text book, i am assuming prolly with a copyright date that is older than you.
@halleyscomet - through this entire conversation i have kept myself from calling you names like, "shill" and "lazy" because i prefer civility. Since you are not able to maintain a civil conversation, i think we are done here. btw, by your definition, acupuncture,chiropractics, massage and the like, are no longer "alternate" so why refer to them as such if they are "covered medicine" by medicare, you stumble all over yourself. I am done, i will not answer again, goodbye.
"by your definition, acupuncture,chiropractics, massage and the like, are no longer "alternate" "
They are covered by medicare in many circumstances. This doesn't make them valid, just waste of my tax dollars. You're using a definition of "alternative" that you pulled from thin air.
@halleyscomet - when someone you care about comes down with a stage one fatal illness, ask yourself, if you wouldnt try your hardest to do whatever you could to help them, even if it means trying alternative medicine. agreed to disagree. Have a nice day.
@halleyscomet - I have lost a family member to AIDS, ever watch someone you love die from drowning in their own fluids? I do believe that their can be a crossroad between eastern and western medicine, the USA is the only country thus far that has yet to embrace that, i wonder why? G R E E D.
@halleyscomet - I am not spreading misinformation, you just assumed I did because i made a 1 sentence comment on a video 2 months ago. Your attacking the wrong person or persons. I simply have hope that Eastern and Western medicine can work together for a better outcome, that is all. You took my comment and ran with it, i'm simply defending myself. for the record, i'm also very sick, & these toxic medications i have to take everyday are worse than the illness. i speak from experience, u dont.
@teemu1381 No, I don;t work for the AMA. I do however prefer following the evidence and the science over wishful thinking and unverifiable testimonials.
@halleyscomet Why dont you watch the Gerson therapy....it might change your mind....plenty of testimonials and evidence proves that Nutrition is the cure and heals the body.PERIOD! God designed the body to heal itself through proper nutrition...disease's come from the food we eat and thats simple common sense! if you put good nutritional food in your body,your reacts to a healing process and functions properly...any educacated person would know this
@teemu1381 "Why dont you watch the Gerson therapy"
I've watched the videos and done a lot of research on it. The entire thing is bullshit. There's no actual evidence for efficacy and the claimed mechanism is scientifically laughable. It only exists because people are gullible and prone to falling for confirmation bias.
@halleyscomet I'll tell you what,you go ahead get the radiation/and chemotherapy (which both destroy the immune system) and I'll seek the Natural way...you want to believe what the mainstream modern day witch doctors tell you and thats your problem....I done the research too,seen testimonials and its not bullshit! I guarantee you'll live longer when it comes to Nutrition vs Radiation.(if radiation is so good for you,why are the people in Japan protecting themselves from it?) Nutrition heals
@teemu1381 "seen testimonials and its not bullshit!"
Testimonials you can't verify and for which you have no evidence. How many of them were on the web sites of people selling books or supplies for the alternative treatments being advocated?
"if radiation is so good for you,why are the people in Japan protecting themselves from it?"
Radiation isn't good for you. It's just worse for cancer cells than healthy cells. There's a reason doctors prevention to surgery and radiation.
@teemu1381 "disease's come from the food we eat and thats simple common sense! "
It's also flat out wrong. You're ignoring the role of bacteria, viruses and the genetic mutations that lead to many forms of cancer.
Cancer is a highly complex set of diseases, and anyone claiming to have a cure that treats all or even most of them is most likely a con artist like Gerson was.
@teemu1381 "if you put good nutritional food in your body,your reacts to a healing process and functions properly...any educacated person would know this"
A healthy diet however is not a magical shield form disease. Yes, eating a healthy diet and exercising regularly will result in a more robust immune system, but it's not magic. You can't avoid all disease through nutrition or quack nonsense like Gerson therapy.
Megadoses of Vitamin C don't fight off colds. That's an old, debunked myth.
@halleyscomet a heathly diet will heep you from getting sick......people that do this are a testimony to it! stop denying the truth...God designed our body's to heal itself by giving it the nutrition it needs.Vitamin C is truely a powerful vitamin,if not,why does the FDA want to ban Vitamin C????????????? because they know the effects and they want you sick because the pharma drug pushers can make lots of money off you and all it does it cover the symptom and not heal anything
@halleyscomet have you even heard of Codex Alimentarius? try looking that up...the plan to ban All over the counter vitamins...I guess thats a lie too? I am done wasting my time with mainstream loving people who love being lied to by the modern day witch doctors who will give you a pill for everything
@teemu1381 Codex Alimentarius is a reference source intended to be purely voluntary. It only lists uses that are actually supported by science. I'm sorry that you find a reference source that relies on science and not anecdotes to be threatening.
@halleyscomet Mordern Science is flawed. Big business has interfered too much for it to be credible. Anyone that suggests banning Vitamins or radiating all food before consumption is not right in the head.
I'd take any natural remedy,in mega doses...any time over toxic chemotherapy,radiation or else..!!
postsilv71 2 days ago
pigeonpsycho: Excessive vitamin C can absolutely contribute to kidney stones! Ask any urologist. I'm talking about high megadoses.
MsGiselleDancer 2 months ago
@MsGiselleDancer Yeah, it's just never happened. So until it has happened we can't really say that. Also, Kidney Stones aren't really a problem anymore and I'd rather have Kidney Stones than Cancer.
pigeonpsycho 2 months ago
Do you have any idea how easy it is to eliminate kidney stones Pigeon psycho. Lets wait and see what happens when you get cancer.
jeninediconti 1 month ago
Buy the highest dose on the global market here: ebay .com/itm/250950092286
BoxingCommunityorg 2 months ago
Yeeeeeah. NOT wonderful for people who can't take vitamin C because it converts to oxalate and can cause horrendous kidney stones. o.0
MsGiselleDancer 3 months ago
@MsGiselleDancer you got kidney stones from vitamin c? didn't think so.
pigeonpsycho 2 months ago
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The cancer prevention especially with defeats. Do not smoke, but play sports, eat plenty of fresh fruit and cereals, legumes and many little dough. Remove meat, eggs, milk and all its derivatives is very important to prevent serious diseases. I invite you to look "A Delicate Balance", you will find a video on You Tube. You will find all the answers!
truplek 4 months ago
I love Dr. Saul and I love Vitamin C!!
Thanks!, Dr. Saul.
maxellmusic 4 months ago
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Cancer is a metobolic disease caused by a dietary deficiency of nitrilosides/Amygdalin found in seeds and other
unpopular foods just like scurvy is a deficiency of vitamin C - This was
discovered in 1952- Big pharma / FDA covered up the cure and declared it fraud and quackery.
Watch World Without Cancer Video and investigate. Many lives have been saved just by modifying diet and
just saying no thank you to the Big pharma / FDA chemo/ radiation rackett .
Tealy855 5 months ago
END THE FDA
amistybleu 5 months ago
I live in the UK and I recently posted a comment about the vitamin c IV treatment along with a lot of links to various sources of information and medical papers in the cancer research uk organistaion's forum online (in their topic of alternative treatments). And after just a few hours the moderator deleted the post. I think that is absolutely disgusting. But they know that if a treatment like this would destroy their organisation and make it obsolete. In other words, they would lose money.
lazyx9 11 months ago
I strongly suggest that people who will do this treatment or know anyone who is doing the treatment to document it with video evidence and save copies of the medical journal.. We need to show the rest of the world that this is a working effective treatment even though the mainstream medical institute wont acknowledge this as an alternative treatment and mock those who do.
lazyx9 11 months ago
@lazyx9 "video evidence and save copies of the medical journal"
If this treatment is effective then the firs step is, as you suggest, to document it and get the case studies published. From there it will be possible to raise the finds for a pilot study. Once you have one or two small, inexpensive, placebo controlled, blinded pilot studies anyone opposing the treatment would be hard pressed to prevent clinical trials.
Lest talk people more actual research.
halleyscomet 9 months ago
Mangos rich in C. Watch my newest series, Norma Your Nutritionist:
Niv6548 1 year ago
How long are you suggesting people get injected DAILY before results are seen?
oakham10901 1 year ago
Now you know why the family of Dung on GOD's plate, want to make Vitamin C illegal and or only available via prescription. Don't believe me? Check out a Youtube video called "codex alimentarius" they also want to make organic farming and back yard gardens illegal, look it up.
ElectricJunta 1 year ago
guachipiruli is a gronk.
lilblau01 1 year ago
Hi
could you please help with some advice
What is a good supplement of vitamin C
I would appreciate your help
hyylo 1 year ago
@hyylo I like New Chapter Vit C Complex. Comes from food, not synthetic. Take to bowel tolerance.
Cathyvalaz 1 year ago
hahaha HAHAHA 100000 mg/day of vitamin C directly into the blood stream, you can´t even dissolve that!! Besides 12g (so 12000mg) is already considered lethal LD50. Hahahhaa.
guachipiruli 1 year ago
@guachipiruli HA HA HA HA GENIUS....all I can tell you someone I know who was told that they only had 3 months of life...is now CANCER FREE after intravenous Vitamin C treatments...her oncologist is speechless since he was not told the treatment that was followed (most oncologists have no clue!!!)...the basis of this treatment was invented and supported by Dr. Linus Pauling (Two UNSHARED Nobel Prizes in Chemistry and something like 38 Phd's!!!)
Loukas1964 1 year ago
@guachipiruli You have no idea what you are talking about. I AM a cancer survivor. NOchemo or radiation. Early in my IV Tx I received 100 gm (100,000 mg. of ascorbic acid) plus 7 other nutrients. I did that 3 times a week for sevrl wks then a weening process. I get booster IV's for peace of mind. Isn't it the saddest thing that we have taken many of our ntaions brightest, let them spend major $ for schooling and then they know nothing about making people well. They can write an Rx tho.
Cathyvalaz 1 year ago
@Cathyvalaz you can attribute that to the Rothchild agent Rockefeller family whom took over both medicine and education in the early 1900s.while their Standard Oil Company prepared to begin making oil/petroleum based pharmaceuticals. Wicked men are not that bright though, thus some fallen filth shot down from heaven must be telling them what to do.
PhuqueU 1 year ago
@PhuqueU It's funny people would trust any Rockefeller...Considering they were supplying the nazis with fuel for their bombers. And the Rothchilds...they also started the Great Depression right before that..Hmmm.
iM0nst3r 5 months ago
Do u think we took chemicals(drugs) 200 years ago? No we used things found in Nature. Cheap, inexpensive, and they actually work. So would someone out of all the assholes tell me how it could possibly be Quakery?
1styankeefan 1 year ago
@1styankeefan Please show me some studies showing that things found in nature actually work. Do you think people really were as healthy 200 years ago?
SJGster 1 year ago
@SJGster yes i do believe they were clean water, fresh air, abundence of fresh fruits and vegetables, and i meant as in native americans
1styankeefan 1 year ago
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lilblau01 1 year ago
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lilblau01 1 year ago
lots of camu camu berries (organic)..... if I get cancer.......and maybe wheatgrass. Or a Chaga/Reishi mushroom tea.........
Tallguy2011 1 year ago
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Even in the bible it says God put herbs and fruits all over the Earth to heal ourselves.
jwils924 1 year ago
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jwils924 1 year ago
holistic medicine has its place... 100s of years ago, with the native americans...
MEEPSCH 1 year ago
@MEEPSCH Didn't help much when they contacted diseases foreign to their body.
HybridD91 1 year ago
Right, quackery, if you take vitamin C you will turn into a duck. A DUCK I TELL YOU!
dbmathis 1 year ago
is there a special diet when using vitamin c as a alternative cancer treatment?
artsiv80 2 years ago
I'd do both chemotherapy and vitamin C, just in case. :)
zaaz369 2 years ago 2
the mineral silver will kill cancer too, as well as pure doses of oygen or O2
silver has been documented to kill 350,000 diseaes, and pathogens on contact.
cancer is anerobic so if you give it oxygen watch it die!
julianraw 2 years ago
colodial silver cures cancer combined with vitamin c
freemason98 2 years ago
@freemason98 yes. But colloidial is to big in size for a mineral, Angstrom is best as it is much smaller . Colloidal Minerals must pass through the digestive tract first. They may not be digested by those with digestion problems. Angstrom Minerals are so small that they are absorbed into the cells as soon as you put them in your mouth. They bypass the need for digestion and start the healing. Quicker absorption, Faster, Stronger results!
julianraw 2 years ago
I agree but colodial sivler in liquid form enters the blood stream and by passes the digestive tract.
It must be in liquid form though. I totallay agree about angstorm it's amazing!!!
freemason98 2 years ago
As Quackcast 36. "Hi Ho Silver" points out, that's not true. There's NO medical evidence to support such a claim.
But hey, when has evidence and science ever stopped a snake oil salesman?
halleyscomet 2 years ago
"silver has been documented to kill 350,000 diseaes"
Actually, that's not true, but a lot of people selling quack treatments repeat the claim.
Check out Quackcast 36. "Hi Ho Silver" to learn the TRUTH about using silver in medicine, including a roundup of the actual medical research on the topic.
halleyscomet 2 years ago
my number i had before is actually incoorect, its actually 650, but silver is a mineral, for cancer, you want to raise teh bodies Ph, as if you were to test the ph of cancer patients they are like 4.6 and under. do a detox of the liver like a coffee enema which pures the live of all toxins, then add the mineral Ionic soulable angstrom mineral silver, as well as a few others. The body can heal itself!
julianraw 2 years ago
Do you have a citation for any of those claims?
Preferably actual clinical research.
halleyscomet 2 years ago
It is clinical research, do your homework and you will find out ourself, im not making any claims as they have been proven already. Alkiline your body and watch any infection dissapeer!
julianraw 2 years ago
@julianraw There have been two clinical studies on the use of Vitamin C to treat cancer:
Phase I clinical trial of i.v. ascorbic acid in advanced malignancy. Annals of Oncology
and
Pharmacologic doses of ascorbate act as a prooxidant and decrease growth of aggressive tumor xenografts in mice. Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences
The studies concluded that Vitamin C could slow tumor growth slightly, but not shrink tumors. That's a FAR cry from being better than chemo.
halleyscomet 2 years ago
"Alkiline your body"
That's not actually possible. The human body's acidity is very stable. Most of the balancing goes on in the stomach. The worst case scenario is that a very highly acidic diet might result in calcium loss, which can be compensated for by adding calcium sources to your diet.
A lot of quacks spread the claim that your body's ph fluctuates, but they have no science to back up the claim..
halleyscomet 2 years ago
I recommend you look up the actual clinical trails on coffee enemas on pubmed.
They don't actually cure anything. They're quackery.
halleyscomet 2 years ago
If you actually read what i said as you are twisting my words around I said "do a detox of the liver like a coffee enema which purges the liver of all toxins" never said it cures anything.
its not meant to cure, its meant to force the poisons and toxins from the liver, and other areas. Only the body can cure itself, any treatment or therapy that anyone gives to the body it is the body that responds to it accordingly, it is never the "thing" that cures as nothing cures but the body itself.
julianraw 2 years ago
"its meant to force the poisons and toxins from the liver"
There is no scientific evidence to support that claim, just the prattling of quacks trying to sell you something.
halleyscomet 2 years ago
@julianraw - it has also been documented sodium chlorite when added to vitamin c can oxidize the blood and help your body do what it is supposed to do naturally without surpressing pharmaceuticals, it seems halleyscomet prolly has a vested interest in big pharma.
thedancetuber 2 years ago
"it seems halleyscomet prolly has a vested interest in big pharma."
No I don't but quacks pushing untested and unproven folk remedies tend to throw that accusation at the people who call them out.
halleyscomet 2 years ago
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"it has also been documented sodium chlorite when added to vitamin c can oxidize the blood and help your body do what it is supposed to do naturally without surpressing pharmaceuticals"
What exactly are you claiming here and what is your source? What biological processes are supposedly aided by the addition of "sodium chlorite" and vitamin C
halleyscomet 2 years ago
@halleyscomet - if you dont have the answer to that question then clearly you have no idea what you are typing about. goodbye, if you really want to know, i would check with European Health Resources. Oh, that's right, you're not interested in helping people, just collecting their money.
thedancetuber 2 years ago
In other words you can't actually name any studies that support your claims, but are perfectly capable of accusing anyone who asks for data of being a big pharma shill.
halleyscomet 2 years ago
@halleyscomet - where's your evidence to the contrary? dont think i didnt miss that little tidbit, and i didnt call you a shill, that is your word. i have agreed to disagree, clearly i do not have studies right in front of me or i would email them to you, that takes research which i would be happy to do, if it helped a loved one. Your entire argument against me is based on one comment i made to a video exactly 2 mos ago. because i have faith in alternate medicine and you do not. cont...
thedancetuber 2 years ago
"i have faith in alternate medicine and you do not"
When evidence is found that a treatment works, it ceases to be "alternate" medicine and becomes just plain old "medicine." "Alternative medicine" is by its very definition something for which there is no hard evidence of efficacy.
This is a matter of science, not of faith.
halleyscomet 2 years ago
@halleyscomet - ok, now whose playing with semantics? I am done with this conversation, since you have found fault with this documentary, then i suggest you write a complaint to the FDA, i am not your man. btw, when "alternate" is put in front of medicine, it typically means, not covered by insurance in the medical profession and has nothing to with that fact that it may or may not have medicinal properties. out of respect for this user, this is my last comment on the subject.
thedancetuber 2 years ago
"not covered by insurance in the medical profession"
Not in the USA.
Medicare spent close to a quarter BILLION covering so-called "alternative medicine" treatments in 2009. Try doing some research now and then, you'll look less foolish if you do.
halleyscomet 2 years ago
@halleyscomet - if this documentary is clearly what you feel is an utter and complete lie, then why argue with little old me, maybe your complaint would be better heard with a bigger "herd."
thedancetuber 2 years ago
Vitamin D3 aswell, I have heard of being super good for treating cancer...
DivineNatureAwakens 2 years ago
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Stevend2be 2 years ago
unbelievable, i wonder if this could work for HIV as well?
thedancetuber 2 years ago
Why would it? The two diseases have completely different causes. Besides, claiming Vitamin C is "better than chemo" is an irresponsibly overblown claim. There's some evidence it can help a little but that's a far cry from being a miracle cure.
halleyscomet 2 years ago
@halleyscomet - Where in my comment did i say Vitamin C is "the miracle cure?" If you're going to challenge a comment or start a debate about something, be polite for starters, and secondly, if it can at least help in some form it should be allowed and covered by insurance, thirdly, there are Cancers of the blood, and since HIV is a blood borne disease there is most definitely a chance it could help at least prevent a patient from seroconversion prematurely, glass always half empty for you?
thedancetuber 2 years ago
"Where in my comment did i say Vitamin C is "the miracle cure?""
I was referring to the rather comical video above that claims it's "better than chemo."
Comparing HIV to Multiple Myeloma is something of a stretch. It's just wild speculation to think a treatment for out of control cell growth will also treat a virus based immune disorder. The fact that blood is involved is far less of an equalizing factor than you seem to think.
halleyscomet 2 years ago
@halleyscomet - Well to completely dismiss and not use any tactic we have in our arsenal to help those that are mentally and physically anguished is completely irresponsible and more to the fact, greed, on the part of doctors and insurance companies to not cover alternative remedies that have been used overseas that have been proven to work. I do not see the problem in giving patients every bit of help they deserve. So to call this "comical" show a definite lack of compassion and forethought.
thedancetuber 2 years ago
What's your standard of evidence for "Proven to work"? It sounds like you accept a much lower bar than the kind of clinical trials used for approving drugs.
The video's very title claims that Vitamin C is "Better than Chemo" which is a flat out lie.
halleyscomet 2 years ago
@halleyscomet - Well, what is your standard of evidence for the antithesis to your question? To call it a "flat out lie" implies that you have invested millions in proving it. so where is your evidence? I'll show u mine, if u show me yours. You are in no position to back the FDA considering all the foul ups they have made, particularly, with "Yaz" and all the H1N1 half dosage syringes that went out, not to mention the recent acetaminophen fiasco. lets just agree to disagree. cont...
thedancetuber 2 years ago
There are no clinical trails or studies that conclude that "Vitamin C Better than Chemo for Cancer" yet the people who made the video feel compelled to make such an unfounded claim regardless. There's no evidence supporting the claim that "Vitamin C Better than Chemo for Cancer".
THEY are making medical claims without evidence, and in so doing are lying.
You however choose to hide behind semantics.
halleyscomet 2 years ago
@halleyscomet - well, YOU, are basing your entire argument, i am assuming now on a 1:13 time stamp "youtube commercial." Why so passionate about something that clearly, you care nothing about? It seems u care more about "bunnies" than you do about humanity. What about sending Vitamin C to Haitians right now, to help block infections and keep them healthy, i bet you are opposed to that as well?
thedancetuber 2 years ago
There have been two studies on the use of Vitamin C to treat cancer:
Phase I clinical trial of i.v. ascorbic acid in advanced malignancy. Annals of Oncology
and
Pharmacologic doses of ascorbate act as a prooxidant and decrease growth of aggressive tumor xenografts in mice. Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences
The studies concluded that Vitamin C could slow tumor growth slightly, but not shrink tumors. That's a FAR cry from being better than chemo.
halleyscomet 2 years ago
@halleyscomet - How many participants? How old is this study? Was ascorbic acid treated on less malignant tissues or tumors? Your giving me text book, i am assuming prolly with a copyright date that is older than you.
thedancetuber 2 years ago
Plugging the titles into google is too much work for you?
Damn you're lazy.
For the record the human trail was from 2008 and it constitutes the best evidence supporting any kind of efficacy for Vitamin C in treating cancer.
halleyscomet 2 years ago
@halleyscomet - through this entire conversation i have kept myself from calling you names like, "shill" and "lazy" because i prefer civility. Since you are not able to maintain a civil conversation, i think we are done here. btw, by your definition, acupuncture,chiropractics, massage and the like, are no longer "alternate" so why refer to them as such if they are "covered medicine" by medicare, you stumble all over yourself. I am done, i will not answer again, goodbye.
thedancetuber 2 years ago
"by your definition, acupuncture,chiropractics, massage and the like, are no longer "alternate" "
They are covered by medicare in many circumstances. This doesn't make them valid, just waste of my tax dollars. You're using a definition of "alternative" that you pulled from thin air.
halleyscomet 2 years ago
@halleyscomet - when someone you care about comes down with a stage one fatal illness, ask yourself, if you wouldnt try your hardest to do whatever you could to help them, even if it means trying alternative medicine. agreed to disagree. Have a nice day.
thedancetuber 2 years ago
I wouldn't fill them with false hope for quack remedies, which you seem more than happy to do.
halleyscomet 2 years ago
@halleyscomet - I have lost a family member to AIDS, ever watch someone you love die from drowning in their own fluids? I do believe that their can be a crossroad between eastern and western medicine, the USA is the only country thus far that has yet to embrace that, i wonder why? G R E E D.
thedancetuber 2 years ago
I'm sorry for your loss, but that doesn't give you the right to spread misinformation about medicine.
Claiming efficacy when there's no evidence to support the claim is irresponsible at best.
halleyscomet 2 years ago
@halleyscomet - I am not spreading misinformation, you just assumed I did because i made a 1 sentence comment on a video 2 months ago. Your attacking the wrong person or persons. I simply have hope that Eastern and Western medicine can work together for a better outcome, that is all. You took my comment and ran with it, i'm simply defending myself. for the record, i'm also very sick, & these toxic medications i have to take everyday are worse than the illness. i speak from experience, u dont.
thedancetuber 2 years ago
"i'm also very sick, & these toxic medications i have to take everyday are worse than the illness"
Then why take them?
halleyscomet 2 years ago
find someone else to annoy please.
thedancetuber 2 years ago
@halleyscomet Do you work for the AMA (american murder association)???
teemu1381 9 months ago
@teemu1381 No, I don;t work for the AMA. I do however prefer following the evidence and the science over wishful thinking and unverifiable testimonials.
halleyscomet 9 months ago
@halleyscomet Why dont you watch the Gerson therapy....it might change your mind....plenty of testimonials and evidence proves that Nutrition is the cure and heals the body.PERIOD! God designed the body to heal itself through proper nutrition...disease's come from the food we eat and thats simple common sense! if you put good nutritional food in your body,your reacts to a healing process and functions properly...any educacated person would know this
teemu1381 9 months ago
@teemu1381 "Why dont you watch the Gerson therapy"
I've watched the videos and done a lot of research on it. The entire thing is bullshit. There's no actual evidence for efficacy and the claimed mechanism is scientifically laughable. It only exists because people are gullible and prone to falling for confirmation bias.
halleyscomet 9 months ago
@halleyscomet I'll tell you what,you go ahead get the radiation/and chemotherapy (which both destroy the immune system) and I'll seek the Natural way...you want to believe what the mainstream modern day witch doctors tell you and thats your problem....I done the research too,seen testimonials and its not bullshit! I guarantee you'll live longer when it comes to Nutrition vs Radiation.(if radiation is so good for you,why are the people in Japan protecting themselves from it?) Nutrition heals
teemu1381 9 months ago
@teemu1381 "seen testimonials and its not bullshit!"
Testimonials you can't verify and for which you have no evidence. How many of them were on the web sites of people selling books or supplies for the alternative treatments being advocated?
"if radiation is so good for you,why are the people in Japan protecting themselves from it?"
Radiation isn't good for you. It's just worse for cancer cells than healthy cells. There's a reason doctors prevention to surgery and radiation.
halleyscomet 9 months ago
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@teemu1381 "disease's come from the food we eat and thats simple common sense! "
It's also flat out wrong. You're ignoring the role of bacteria, viruses and the genetic mutations that lead to many forms of cancer.
Cancer is a highly complex set of diseases, and anyone claiming to have a cure that treats all or even most of them is most likely a con artist like Gerson was.
halleyscomet 9 months ago
@teemu1381 "if you put good nutritional food in your body,your reacts to a healing process and functions properly...any educacated person would know this"
A healthy diet however is not a magical shield form disease. Yes, eating a healthy diet and exercising regularly will result in a more robust immune system, but it's not magic. You can't avoid all disease through nutrition or quack nonsense like Gerson therapy.
Megadoses of Vitamin C don't fight off colds. That's an old, debunked myth.
halleyscomet 9 months ago
@halleyscomet a heathly diet will heep you from getting sick......people that do this are a testimony to it! stop denying the truth...God designed our body's to heal itself by giving it the nutrition it needs.Vitamin C is truely a powerful vitamin,if not,why does the FDA want to ban Vitamin C????????????? because they know the effects and they want you sick because the pharma drug pushers can make lots of money off you and all it does it cover the symptom and not heal anything
teemu1381 9 months ago
@teemu1381 "why does the FDA want to ban Vitamin C"
That's a flat out lie. Your sources are jerking you around nicely.
halleyscomet 9 months ago
@halleyscomet have you even heard of Codex Alimentarius? try looking that up...the plan to ban All over the counter vitamins...I guess thats a lie too? I am done wasting my time with mainstream loving people who love being lied to by the modern day witch doctors who will give you a pill for everything
teemu1381 9 months ago
@teemu1381 Codex Alimentarius is a reference source intended to be purely voluntary. It only lists uses that are actually supported by science. I'm sorry that you find a reference source that relies on science and not anecdotes to be threatening.
halleyscomet 9 months ago
@halleyscomet Mordern Science is flawed. Big business has interfered too much for it to be credible. Anyone that suggests banning Vitamins or radiating all food before consumption is not right in the head.
pigeonpsycho 2 months ago