When the body goes into deeper relaxation it's natural for the physical body to release stress through the thoughts that come up in meditation. I've found that after about an hour of meditating, I connect to what I would call "source energy", that transcendental state of consciousness where the limited physical senses are literally transcended. It's a very tangible experience but it requires some self discipline. It's actually a very natural process.
How about you, allymetoo? l have penetrated to the very final stage but only for a minute, though it seemed longer and shorter than that. I was sublimely present, and describing is not worth it. So, what level have you achieved with this yourself? That stage moderl, while reasonably accurate, is not emplyed by all buddhists. Chan buddhitst (zen) don't use stage concepts very muh, besides the ox herding pictures. I meditate every day, twice.
I don't believe, I got ever very far with this. I did Zen Meditation, when I was young. ( Switching to Vegetarianism and a special Kefir Diet as well )
I was able to unlock some unusual mental Powers with this temporarily.
I wouldn't say I have sustained attention yet tho there are specific points where silence is like a mountain and thoughts are like trickling streams, bubbling up and fading.
What is significant to take a look here for a moment is the following fact
All these Meditation Techniques are «Synthetic», which have as side-effect, that you loose your Balance to evolve harmoniously all your Body Functions.
This is why these are not useful for everybody.
They can be suitable for some People
But even still then, there will be certain Difficulties, which are met at the higher Stages. These Difficulties concern regular Life and social interactions and emotional Life.
Meditation must be combined with an arrays of practices to come up with a kind of integral life practice. Body, mind and spirit in self, culture and nature must be cultivated. There is no more conflict for me between meditative states and communication, because I do more alchemical stuff too, such as shadow work (disclaimed aspects of self, that are projected onto other people that are negative, positive or neutral in character are integrated and or transmuted).
That is to say, I have managed to combine several practices. I just came from a martial arts class. To call me antisocial would be a stretch. My emotions are maturing by the minute because of my positive but aware attitude. I got my awareness from meditative practicing over the last 4 years. I have been doing an integral life practice for the past 1 year, and I met with parts of myself I didn't like, yet transmutations were many. I am by no means perfect. But I am getting better.
The best way to get the so called regular life in order, and to have health social interactions, is to put oneself out there. I used to have more problems during teen years, when it comes to slight fits of antisocial behavior (I averted and feared putting myself out 'there'), while I was quite good with daoist meditation practices. I could go on and on about what I did then.
This is quite useful now for us, so we can try to see now, how and through which «techniques» we can transpose the «philosophical contemplation» ( of those questions from the other thread ) into this certain kind of Meditation.
Thank you so much for this ....and all of your vids....you are wonderful, sincerely. Mary
9macrina9 2 years ago
Yes, great tips for meditation pathlesspath!
When the body goes into deeper relaxation it's natural for the physical body to release stress through the thoughts that come up in meditation. I've found that after about an hour of meditating, I connect to what I would call "source energy", that transcendental state of consciousness where the limited physical senses are literally transcended. It's a very tangible experience but it requires some self discipline. It's actually a very natural process.
dantre7 2 years ago
I can achieve that state in about 5 minutes. About 4 years ago it took me an hour as well. I.
MaBu888 2 years ago
pretty cool but my ways the best cds im off to have a hit ha.maybe gamma waves today ;)
richardmccaul 2 years ago
i like to think there are many ways, depending on who and where you are in your own life...
thepathlesspath 2 years ago
o yea theres so many other things to try too
richardmccaul 2 years ago
i meditate through sleeping, or i did, now im just astral tavelling
Giflar 2 years ago
its a wonder to get present to the present. meditation is benediction =)
katerinabonvora 2 years ago
this was great!
bgrist18 2 years ago
Thanks for sharing this. I've been getting really interested in meditation lately and this was a good video to learn about the topic.
HaleyMary 2 years ago
welcome! glad it was interesting for you...
thepathlesspath 2 years ago
Let me ask you something.
Which one of the Levels are you able to achieve according to the 9 Level Samatha Jhana Map, and approximately for how long?
allymetoo 2 years ago
According to this... I guess I would put myself under 3, dipping into 4 if I remain vigilant in daily practice... ahem and thats a big "if"... lol
thepathlesspath 2 years ago
I need the Timespans, you haven't told me these.
shortest, longest on 3 and
shortest, longest on 4.
Then we can proceed.
allymetoo 2 years ago
How about you, allymetoo? l have penetrated to the very final stage but only for a minute, though it seemed longer and shorter than that. I was sublimely present, and describing is not worth it. So, what level have you achieved with this yourself? That stage moderl, while reasonably accurate, is not emplyed by all buddhists. Chan buddhitst (zen) don't use stage concepts very muh, besides the ox herding pictures. I meditate every day, twice.
MaBu888 2 years ago
BTW my monkey mind is very calm now. I can be at stage 9 in an hour.
MaBu888 2 years ago
I don't believe, I got ever very far with this. I did Zen Meditation, when I was young. ( Switching to Vegetarianism and a special Kefir Diet as well )
I was able to unlock some unusual mental Powers with this temporarily.
allymetoo 2 years ago
Just started this myself. Though I've been using Dzogchen and Zen on and off throughout college.
thepathlesspath 2 years ago
I wouldn't say I have sustained attention yet tho there are specific points where silence is like a mountain and thoughts are like trickling streams, bubbling up and fading.
thepathlesspath 2 years ago
What is significant to take a look here for a moment is the following fact
All these Meditation Techniques are «Synthetic», which have as side-effect, that you loose your Balance to evolve harmoniously all your Body Functions.
This is why these are not useful for everybody.
They can be suitable for some People
But even still then, there will be certain Difficulties, which are met at the higher Stages. These Difficulties concern regular Life and social interactions and emotional Life.
allymetoo 2 years ago
I know that fact first hand.
Meditation must be combined with an arrays of practices to come up with a kind of integral life practice. Body, mind and spirit in self, culture and nature must be cultivated. There is no more conflict for me between meditative states and communication, because I do more alchemical stuff too, such as shadow work (disclaimed aspects of self, that are projected onto other people that are negative, positive or neutral in character are integrated and or transmuted).
MaBu888 2 years ago
That is to say, I have managed to combine several practices. I just came from a martial arts class. To call me antisocial would be a stretch. My emotions are maturing by the minute because of my positive but aware attitude. I got my awareness from meditative practicing over the last 4 years. I have been doing an integral life practice for the past 1 year, and I met with parts of myself I didn't like, yet transmutations were many. I am by no means perfect. But I am getting better.
MaBu888 2 years ago
The best way to get the so called regular life in order, and to have health social interactions, is to put oneself out there. I used to have more problems during teen years, when it comes to slight fits of antisocial behavior (I averted and feared putting myself out 'there'), while I was quite good with daoist meditation practices. I could go on and on about what I did then.
MaBu888 2 years ago
Thanks a lot for this.
(I've been waiting for this somehow)
This is quite useful now for us, so we can try to see now, how and through which «techniques» we can transpose the «philosophical contemplation» ( of those questions from the other thread ) into this certain kind of Meditation.
allymetoo 2 years ago