Love it how the T-rex incredibly seems not to attack the stonemen but actually walking with them in their promenade, lol.
Too bad there were no friendly T-rexs (all dinosaurs were extinct which makes its apperance amusing) as mans pet. That sort of would have helped alot against the malevolent wolves and bears. Not to mention hunting mammots!
@austenbosten Quite the mess of logical fallacies you got there.
Taxation is not stealing, nor is it barbaric. It is, in fact, the only way a civilized country can raise revenues, because civilized countries do not plunder resources from other countries.
Also, nothing prevents people who are taxed to also give to charities. I do it every year, and I feel my taxes are too low.
It's all about where you draw the line - I think some govt provided services (including health care) are a good idea.
@MisterDataJack There is nothing wrong with Taxation, I agree. I am not a RuPaul Paulestinain brownshirt.
However the problem with the 'welfare state' is it is funded by those who will never use those services to serve those who do not contribute. Also if you ever used govt services you'll find how it does more harm than good. Welfare programs force people to fit into some sort of box in order to receive services. Welfare should be available to all who wish to use it.
@dum123321ify By pretending that states aren't necessary for the existence of societies you support the denial of history and reality. Ideally, states do not kill anyone (i.e., most western democracies) and provide sufficient services for the taxes they collect (i.e., most western democracies).
No armed group of thugs forces me to pay taxes (though I was late this year, and had to pay penalties. But still, no armed thugs in sight). In fact, I think me and those like me should pay higher taxes.
@DoctorCapitalist No matter how fervently you wish this to be an actual possibility, it simply isn't. If you must waste time worrying, you should instead worry about things that can happen, rather than things that can only happen in your bizarre fantasies.
Taxing citizens in order to provide services is the right of a state.
Denying that right exists, and still believing those services would be provided (or are not needed) is petulant and childish.
Your head. Oh look, it went right over. You're actually the one with the straw man fallacy, "Dorothy, why do these libertarians/anarco-capitalists/objectivists hate roads and other services?" Try again with a little less fallacy.
@MisterDataJack Your lack of ideas or imagination is very silly.
Libertarians try to come up with solutions, going into details of how many government services could be provided, how they would be produced, how they could be funded etc.
The statist solution is: Give some people a bunch of guns and make everyone pay for it. If they resist, put them in a rape cage. That'll teach em.
@MisterDataJack This mindset it similiar to that of the religious.
While scientists will look into all the possibilities, come up with hypothesises, run tests, and try again if their hypothesis is false, the religious answer is simply: goddidit
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3 last but no least important some things can´t be owned by anybody: air, water, nature, but in this weird world it´s possible, we pollute our water and now me is mine and you is MINE! so now I have to pay for clean water, some people cuts some trees and now ta da! no more nature! let´s privatize nature and so we build parks and zoos ensalving thousands of creatures. Me is mine you is yours not a happy and peaceful world as you think
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2 property me is mine you is yours umm I prefer this one is more accurate:
property is theft, yes tahts right when you own something like in the video an apple you steal that thing, you steal that from the nature, from others, etc
@pisku0 I think you are misunderstanding this simple concept. You don't "steal" an apple from nature at all, because like dyssolve said, nature uses you as a fertilizer. But this is besides the point, this song isn't really about the circle of life.
You don't "steal" an apple from someone else, instead you trade something of value (ie. money, gold, clothes, etc) in exchange for the apple.
Private property is a simple concept and a foundation of a free and just society.
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@organizedreligion ok another example this is easier: There is and island, nobody is there, a guy appears swimming and takes the island, is a big island, but a few days later another guy cames swimming he tries to put a foot in the island, the first guy has a shotgun and asks friendly to the second guy to leave his "private property" even when the islans is big enough for not only 2, maybe even 10 people continues->
I prefer the concept of you have land yo must pay a single and big tax for it, why?
because like in the example you take away the oportunity to other people of using land, let´s go more deep! we as humans have more right to land property than insects who live in planet earth long time ago than we do?
@pisku0 Fortunately, most of us are civilized and willing to compromise, and if we can't find a mutual agreement, then we have laws and courts to settle our disputes (which this song has an excellent way of illustrating).
Moreover, as we are the most sapient and conscious beings on the planet we do have a responsibility to protect and preserve earth, however, that doesn't mean that you cannot live on a piece of land because there are a few ant mounds on it.
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hello, well let´s take this silly thing down.
1 property is a nice concept when you have something to own - no think this: any moment this planet will end with no more resources (water, land, minerals) to produce anything, what you will own then? continues in next comment->
I shaired my perspective and you denied it as a perspective so it isnt like explaining my self to someone who is not willing to let me have my perspective is going to be fruitful. And you call me shallow......A sphere of thought has many perspectives and limiting ones self to one fragment of it is shallow. Both sides of this are still true and no matter how you continue to paint this, it will remain so.
This is the author, Nick Sibley. Just curious, do you teach the classes or are you in school? By the way, I wish my detractors here would take into account that this is a four minute song.
I can't cover every angle of western civ. It's just a song.
The video gives a distorted version of history. The state did not arise from a collective desire for a governing or judicial body. It arose from alliances among feudal lords, cult leaders, and other assorted bullies, cutthroats, and con men.
Both sides of this are true. Your perspective and the one you shallowly grasped from this video... There were good men and bad men who organized the people through out history.
I think, if you were really interested in me getting the point, you would have mentioned what you think the point is, instead of just writing that I missed it. You probably also would've explained what you meant by "shallowly," which on its own sounds like an offhand insult to me.
"Organizing the people" is not the same as organizing a state, which is more akin to herding the people, or browbeating the people, or shooting bullets at the people.
it is not my place to teach you anything. What would you be if everything was handed to you? And you proved my point by assuming once again the worst of someone or their perspective. This is a short song trying to simplify self ownership. Thats it! It is not a all consuming data base of info on this subject... I still think you missed the point!
Telling someone that he's wrong but failing to specify how is the same as a put-down.
It didn't take any assumptions to see what your motivation was. Someone who opens with "both sides of this are true" doesn't have a perspective to share. The claim there is no truth is a vehicle for painting the observations of others as wrong-headed, simplistic, or "shallow."
Where would I be if I couldn't see through your refusal to explain yourself? Well, I might think you actually had something to say.
Show me one good person who was involved in the founding of a state. That is, a person whom you think was/is good. That way, I'll know where you draw the distinction between good and bad.
Technically this is not correct...altruism and cooperation evolved long before there were humans (primates studies show the behaviour in chimps and orangutans) but its still a great video.
This is absolutely BRILLIANT! Thank you, thank you, thank you to the folks who made this and thanks to Rachel for sharing it with me. You guys rock! I can't wait to share this with my network.
If you enjoyed this video, you may also like the slightly more philosophical animated video on the philosophy of liberty that can be found on the International Society for Individual Liberty website:
I am in love with this video and spread it every chance I get. THANK YOU! I've never seen a more succinct and amusing description of liberty and free markets in my life.
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How do you account for non-monetary obligations held by citizens? (eg. the draft, helping police etc)
If a nation can send it's citizens to war, and force citizens to perform other tasks against those citizens' will, is it not fair to ensure those citizens have a minimum standard of living?
Is it also not sensible for that nation to ensure that those citizens are in the best state of health to perform those duties?
If you think about it very hard, how often in your life have you interacted with individuals, and how often have they assaulted you? Most people are not cruel and greedy. The rest we can take care of them through self-defence and ostracism.
Kind of like how most people here have to your comments. But I forgive your misconceptions and hope you change your attitude towards people. Otherwise, you're a misanthrope.
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How am I supposed to engage in rational debate with you when, by way of downmodding, my posts have been censored?
Fair enough if I was throwing round insults, racial slurs etc, but all I did was put forward an opposing point of view, with arguments/reasoning to back it up.
All thats happened here is a bunch of people have shouted me down. I could be yelling out "1+1=2" but if enough people disagree does that mean I'm wrong?
It is flagged now as I am one of BO's Brown-shirts. All your names have been taken and you will be required to report to re-education camps (like the good ole' days in the Soviet Union) where you will watch news 24/7 on CNN, MSNBC, and all the other MSM networks until you bow to the great leader and his teachings. Mu-ha-ha-ha.
Great song
slobodanblazeski0 2 months ago
Love it how the T-rex incredibly seems not to attack the stonemen but actually walking with them in their promenade, lol.
Too bad there were no friendly T-rexs (all dinosaurs were extinct which makes its apperance amusing) as mans pet. That sort of would have helped alot against the malevolent wolves and bears. Not to mention hunting mammots!
bradleyrimbleus 3 months ago
Pretty cool. Would love to see you do a video on Bitcoins.
stevenwagner 4 months ago
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I thought, when they emphasized "voluntary" for charity, that this was going to take a whacky Libertarian turn eventually. And it did.
MisterDataJack 4 months ago
@MisterDataJack When coercion is the status quo liberty is "wacky". Come back when you've grown a backbone, and you'll probably enjoy the song.
slightlyndifferent 4 months ago 2
@MisterDataJack yeah what a radical idea!
Have a heart and give your money voluntarily to the poor instead of stealing from others like some barbarian.
austenbosten 3 months ago 3
@austenbosten Quite the mess of logical fallacies you got there.
Taxation is not stealing, nor is it barbaric. It is, in fact, the only way a civilized country can raise revenues, because civilized countries do not plunder resources from other countries.
Also, nothing prevents people who are taxed to also give to charities. I do it every year, and I feel my taxes are too low.
It's all about where you draw the line - I think some govt provided services (including health care) are a good idea.
MisterDataJack 3 months ago
@MisterDataJack There is nothing wrong with Taxation, I agree. I am not a RuPaul Paulestinain brownshirt.
However the problem with the 'welfare state' is it is funded by those who will never use those services to serve those who do not contribute. Also if you ever used govt services you'll find how it does more harm than good. Welfare programs force people to fit into some sort of box in order to receive services. Welfare should be available to all who wish to use it.
austenbosten 3 months ago
@MisterDataJack So a large group of armed thugs forcing you to pay them isnt theft?
You, sir, are very confused.
By supporting a state, you support the killing of individuals who did nothing to others.
dum123321ify 3 months ago
@dum123321ify By pretending that states aren't necessary for the existence of societies you support the denial of history and reality. Ideally, states do not kill anyone (i.e., most western democracies) and provide sufficient services for the taxes they collect (i.e., most western democracies).
No armed group of thugs forces me to pay taxes (though I was late this year, and had to pay penalties. But still, no armed thugs in sight). In fact, I think me and those like me should pay higher taxes.
MisterDataJack 3 months ago
@MisterDataJack So throwing people in a cage where they'll be raped for not paying for something they don't want is civilized?
DoctorCapitalist 1 month ago
@DoctorCapitalist No matter how fervently you wish this to be an actual possibility, it simply isn't. If you must waste time worrying, you should instead worry about things that can happen, rather than things that can only happen in your bizarre fantasies.
Taxing citizens in order to provide services is the right of a state.
Denying that right exists, and still believing those services would be provided (or are not needed) is petulant and childish.
MisterDataJack 1 month ago
@MisterDataJack Yes because if the state doesn't provide shoes, then shoes will not exist!
DoctorCapitalist 1 month ago
@DoctorCapitalist Logical fallacy. Shoes do not equal armies, roads, or foreign policy. Do you people read anything but "Atlas Shrugged"?
MisterDataJack 1 month ago
@MisterDataJack Yes because these things can only be funded by the state, right?
DoctorCapitalist 1 month ago
@MisterDataJack The point.
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Your head. Oh look, it went right over. You're actually the one with the straw man fallacy, "Dorothy, why do these libertarians/anarco-capitalists/objectivists hate roads and other services?" Try again with a little less fallacy.
DMAN123223 2 weeks ago
@MisterDataJack Your lack of ideas or imagination is very silly.
Libertarians try to come up with solutions, going into details of how many government services could be provided, how they would be produced, how they could be funded etc.
The statist solution is: Give some people a bunch of guns and make everyone pay for it. If they resist, put them in a rape cage. That'll teach em.
DoctorCapitalist 1 month ago
@MisterDataJack This mindset it similiar to that of the religious.
While scientists will look into all the possibilities, come up with hypothesises, run tests, and try again if their hypothesis is false, the religious answer is simply: goddidit
Although in this case it's GOVDOIT
DoctorCapitalist 1 month ago
So simple, a child could understand.
dnissen2012 4 months ago 3
This song needs a Flash animator.
PigeonTech 4 months ago
favorited (not just on youtube but in web browser). Great song
stealthswimmer 4 months ago
This should be essentially 100% of elementary school curriculum.
MrFireballbren 4 months ago
Quality!
blagmusic 7 months ago
Jason Mraz should sing this song :)
BublioBabe95 8 months ago
Amazing in it's simplicity! Posting to Facebook, which I might just do every single day 'till my friends "get it"... thank you so much!
katieelson6 10 months ago
Absolutely amazing video, beautifully done. Re-posting it.
Augustinephillips 10 months ago
What???
Lacey21399 1 year ago
Are you kidding me? I guess you know I live in Springfield.
MrNickSibley 1 year ago
I don't get it. But then again, I gradeated from Univercity of Nebraski.
klcn98 1 year ago
I can't get enough of this...truly well done. Thanks!
moslice38 1 year ago
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> This video should be shown in every High School Social Studies class.
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BLCalifornia 1 year ago
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3 last but no least important some things can´t be owned by anybody: air, water, nature, but in this weird world it´s possible, we pollute our water and now me is mine and you is MINE! so now I have to pay for clean water, some people cuts some trees and now ta da! no more nature! let´s privatize nature and so we build parks and zoos ensalving thousands of creatures. Me is mine you is yours not a happy and peaceful world as you think
pisku0 1 year ago
@pisku0 Nature needs you as a fertilizer.
...but honestly. Who gets to decide what nature needs? You? A committee?
dyssolve 1 year ago 2
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2 property me is mine you is yours umm I prefer this one is more accurate:
property is theft, yes tahts right when you own something like in the video an apple you steal that thing, you steal that from the nature, from others, etc
who owns what? think about that! continues->
pisku0 1 year ago
@pisku0 I think you are misunderstanding this simple concept. You don't "steal" an apple from nature at all, because like dyssolve said, nature uses you as a fertilizer. But this is besides the point, this song isn't really about the circle of life.
You don't "steal" an apple from someone else, instead you trade something of value (ie. money, gold, clothes, etc) in exchange for the apple.
Private property is a simple concept and a foundation of a free and just society.
organizedreligion 1 year ago
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@organizedreligion ok another example this is easier: There is and island, nobody is there, a guy appears swimming and takes the island, is a big island, but a few days later another guy cames swimming he tries to put a foot in the island, the first guy has a shotgun and asks friendly to the second guy to leave his "private property" even when the islans is big enough for not only 2, maybe even 10 people continues->
pisku0 1 year ago
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@pisku0
I prefer the concept of you have land yo must pay a single and big tax for it, why?
because like in the example you take away the oportunity to other people of using land, let´s go more deep! we as humans have more right to land property than insects who live in planet earth long time ago than we do?
pisku0 1 year ago
@pisku0 Fortunately, most of us are civilized and willing to compromise, and if we can't find a mutual agreement, then we have laws and courts to settle our disputes (which this song has an excellent way of illustrating).
Moreover, as we are the most sapient and conscious beings on the planet we do have a responsibility to protect and preserve earth, however, that doesn't mean that you cannot live on a piece of land because there are a few ant mounds on it.
What exactly are you saying anyway?
organizedreligion 1 year ago
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hello, well let´s take this silly thing down.
1 property is a nice concept when you have something to own - no think this: any moment this planet will end with no more resources (water, land, minerals) to produce anything, what you will own then? continues in next comment->
pisku0 1 year ago
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Anyone that believes that drivel is 100% brainwashed sheep with an IQ hovering just above that of a box of rocks.
frankinal 1 year ago
everytime I watch this video I'm cheered up.
captainimij 1 year ago
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> It's a great song!
> People should email it to everyone they know -- especially teenagers.
BLCalifornia 1 year ago
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I shaired my perspective and you denied it as a perspective so it isnt like explaining my self to someone who is not willing to let me have my perspective is going to be fruitful. And you call me shallow......A sphere of thought has many perspectives and limiting ones self to one fragment of it is shallow. Both sides of this are still true and no matter how you continue to paint this, it will remain so.
mortisnoctu1 2 years ago
i mass emailed this to everyone of my classes
Bugeda 2 years ago 3
This is the author, Nick Sibley. Just curious, do you teach the classes or are you in school? By the way, I wish my detractors here would take into account that this is a four minute song.
I can't cover every angle of western civ. It's just a song.
MrNickSibley 2 years ago 2
no i'm a college student
Bugeda 2 years ago
> It's a great song!
> People should email it to everyone they know -- especially teenagers.
BLCalifornia 1 year ago
@MrNickSibley Very well written Mr. Sibley. If you ever visit Bolivar MO, could I get your autograph?
klcn98 1 year ago
The video gives a distorted version of history. The state did not arise from a collective desire for a governing or judicial body. It arose from alliances among feudal lords, cult leaders, and other assorted bullies, cutthroats, and con men.
lnd3005 2 years ago
The state really began as a practical joke.
VALsacount2 2 years ago
Both sides of this are true. Your perspective and the one you shallowly grasped from this video... There were good men and bad men who organized the people through out history.
All this aside, you missed the point.
mortisnoctu1 2 years ago
I think, if you were really interested in me getting the point, you would have mentioned what you think the point is, instead of just writing that I missed it. You probably also would've explained what you meant by "shallowly," which on its own sounds like an offhand insult to me.
"Organizing the people" is not the same as organizing a state, which is more akin to herding the people, or browbeating the people, or shooting bullets at the people.
lnd3005 2 years ago
it is not my place to teach you anything. What would you be if everything was handed to you? And you proved my point by assuming once again the worst of someone or their perspective. This is a short song trying to simplify self ownership. Thats it! It is not a all consuming data base of info on this subject... I still think you missed the point!
mortisnoctu1 2 years ago 5
Telling someone that he's wrong but failing to specify how is the same as a put-down.
It didn't take any assumptions to see what your motivation was. Someone who opens with "both sides of this are true" doesn't have a perspective to share. The claim there is no truth is a vehicle for painting the observations of others as wrong-headed, simplistic, or "shallow."
Where would I be if I couldn't see through your refusal to explain yourself? Well, I might think you actually had something to say.
lnd3005 2 years ago
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mortisnoctu1 2 years ago
Show me one good person who was involved in the founding of a state. That is, a person whom you think was/is good. That way, I'll know where you draw the distinction between good and bad.
lnd3005 2 years ago
Question: How do we get societies, the world even, back on track of human progress? Back on tract with Natural Law? How do we abolish modern slavery?
Answer: Stop paying taxes. We stop being slaves by stop allowing ourselves to be enslaved. Stop paying taxes.
FIGHT TYRANNY | STOP PAYING TAXES
gt8595b 2 years ago 10
How?
Agorism?
barccy 2 years ago
Wow, a natural law song. I love it!
wineman77 2 years ago 2
> Voluntarily -- that's the key word.
BLCalifornia 2 years ago 5
> Some people just can't handle the truth.
BLCalifornia 2 years ago
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This is an asinine creation myth.
wapsiwilly 2 years ago
What about the impact of religion?
LordCastellan 2 years ago
nice song
Cluffdog 2 years ago
Technically this is not correct...altruism and cooperation evolved long before there were humans (primates studies show the behaviour in chimps and orangutans) but its still a great video.
And I whole heartedly support the message.
johnycannuk 2 years ago
obviously not the point of the song
anarchistassilum 2 years ago
Brilliant! I love it!
OpenCarryNH 2 years ago
best thing I've seen in a long time.
captainimij 2 years ago
This is absolutely BRILLIANT! Thank you, thank you, thank you to the folks who made this and thanks to Rachel for sharing it with me. You guys rock! I can't wait to share this with my network.
georgedonnelly 2 years ago
If you enjoyed this video, you may also like the slightly more philosophical animated video on the philosophy of liberty that can be found on the International Society for Individual Liberty website:
isil(dot)org/resources/introduction(dot)swf
StarchildSF 2 years ago
I've watched this and shared it until my husband says it's irritating.
I still love it. :o)
RayeHawk 2 years ago
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Well without all those taxes we would not have a public road system. Taxes are not volentary.
llcontrall 2 years ago
Why not?
LinnBoy 2 years ago
To which part of my post?
llcontrall 2 years ago
Why would there be no public roading system?
LinnBoy 2 years ago
You're not thinking hard enough, contra
domaineer 2 years ago
Great video. Way better that socialist one they show in schools.
dontlikenumbers 2 years ago 27
@dontlikenumbers What socialist video, and what schools?
TheKenAmes 3 months ago
I am in love with this video and spread it every chance I get. THANK YOU! I've never seen a more succinct and amusing description of liberty and free markets in my life.
AnnieMcPhee4 2 years ago 6
I've watched this approximately 17 times now.
malewis88 2 years ago 20
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Oh, and to those who keep downmodding my comments - if you're going to do so at least have the courtesy to offer a response.
PubicCHEESE 2 years ago
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Somebody forgot about feudalism....
perute 2 years ago
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How do you account for non-monetary obligations held by citizens? (eg. the draft, helping police etc)
If a nation can send it's citizens to war, and force citizens to perform other tasks against those citizens' will, is it not fair to ensure those citizens have a minimum standard of living?
Is it also not sensible for that nation to ensure that those citizens are in the best state of health to perform those duties?
PubicCHEESE 2 years ago
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pattilemons 2 years ago
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And yet, so too can progress.
Why is it that those nations with government-driven welfare/health/education/etc systems enjoy better standards of living than those without?
PubicCHEESE 2 years ago
They don't.
defender918 2 years ago
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Western nations have the best standards of living. They also have a bunch more tax-funded services than other nations. Go figure.
PubicCHEESE 2 years ago
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You people who like this video clearly don't understand how the real world works, and don't have a clue about human nature.
Humans are cruel and greedy, and it is this cruelty and greedy which prevents charities from being a capable social safety net.
How do you account for cruelty and greed?
PubicCHEESE 2 years ago
If you think about it very hard, how often in your life have you interacted with individuals, and how often have they assaulted you? Most people are not cruel and greedy. The rest we can take care of them through self-defence and ostracism.
Kind of like how most people here have to your comments. But I forgive your misconceptions and hope you change your attitude towards people. Otherwise, you're a misanthrope.
domaineer 2 years ago
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How am I supposed to engage in rational debate with you when, by way of downmodding, my posts have been censored?
Fair enough if I was throwing round insults, racial slurs etc, but all I did was put forward an opposing point of view, with arguments/reasoning to back it up.
All thats happened here is a bunch of people have shouted me down. I could be yelling out "1+1=2" but if enough people disagree does that mean I'm wrong?
Censorship is what communists do.
PubicCHEESE 2 years ago
back your ideas thoughtfully up. otherwise you cannot say that its 1+1=2
xveraxjoanx 2 years ago
nice. watched it twice in a row.
ithasacarb 2 years ago 5
Great video, and so catchy too!
larsathin 2 years ago 4
I love it.
xtxtfive 2 years ago 6
Bravo!
WMGPresents 2 years ago 5
514 views right now. I hope it hits 10 million. Absolutely brilliant. Amazing that this is such a simple concept that some people don't get it.
PolySciGeek 2 years ago 7
It is flagged now as I am one of BO's Brown-shirts. All your names have been taken and you will be required to report to re-education camps (like the good ole' days in the Soviet Union) where you will watch news 24/7 on CNN, MSNBC, and all the other MSM networks until you bow to the great leader and his teachings. Mu-ha-ha-ha.
jrlucas 2 years ago 7
How long before it is flagged as being unsuitable for people under 18?
capitalistdingo 2 years ago 4
This is an absolutely spectacular video. I don't think you can sum up the conservative/libertarian view of government/society any better.
Keep more like this coming. We need messengers like you Nick.
simpson3162000 2 years ago 8
Way to go Nicko.
Remember our days at Am. Artists? Funny times, huh?
Arkansas Red
Ozark Mountains, Arkansas
ArkRed1 3 years ago 2