@I'm quoting the figures posted. 450bhp - 70bhp you say in drivetrain loss = 380bhp. The focus is 300bhp with little loss thought the drivetrain say 20bhp.
That leaves you with 380 evo vs 280 st. Yes the focus has higher torque being a 5 cylinder engine but an evo supposedly running 450bhp should still match or exceed to torque of a 300bhp st. The Evo must have had a tonne of sand in the boot to weigh it down to make it closer hahaha
@12389h I'll believe it when i see it. My ST was running 265 bhp (roughly) and was a tiny bit quicker than an MPS, especially at higher speeds. However i will give you (and many other people) the EVO thing. Bare in mind that i drive high performance cars for a living, there is absolutely no way in heaven or hell that, in a straight line or other wise with 2 drivers of equal ability, a 300bhp Focus that weighs more would be quicker than a 450bhp EVO that weighs less. Its just not possible.
Would yous folk read ALL the dam comments on this.
Ps I have a highly tuned Focus ST and a standard MPS is a walk in the park to leather! Sounds like someone's been lying to you on how tuned their ST is!
And if you want a real laugh compare the Top Gear lap times for the Evos and the Focus RS and ST, even the slowest Evo is a second a lap quicker the fastest Focus.
this must be a highly modified st against an fq 300 or something as the evo is in a completely different league to the st - just look at the stats. my old p1 scooby with stage one tuning had no problem against modified mark 2 RS' so a half decent Evo would dick all over an ST and that's in the dry and in a straight line, anything else it would murder it. Different league.
@ScoobySamP1 ur scoobys n evo's arent shit on a rollin start pal, my old remapped LCR (280BHP) used to sit all over my mates FQ300, so as too highly modded ST i think not
Drive train losses in a wrong wheel drive car (FWD) are roughly 12% and in a AWD circa 20% so you don't have to have a degree in Maths (and I'm guessing you don't) to work out that a 300bhp isn't quicker in straight line than a 450bhp. Not sure what an 'LCR' is but it sounds shit.
@ScoobySamP1 hahaha, wtf are you goin on about! if you don't know what a LCR is then there no point me talkin to you, best stickin to your high powered grandad saloon
all these cunts saying its like 50bhp vs 200bhp! no its fucking not! u ever thought about drag? when ur up at this kind of bhp wind and road resistance takes alot more to do with it! and the ST has about 400lb/ft.. evo about 300lb/ft.. i take it u are going to tell me a car with 50 lb/ft would beat a car with 150 lb/ft?? not a valid comparison at all torque is worth more in a race than power!
I completely believe this... i was watching a 412bhp evo making other cars look small in a cruise once, then it came up to a 315bhp St on a rolling start like this and the ST ruinined it, made it lookk silly. guess torque really does make a diff, and 4-wheel drive looses its edge on rolling starts...
dont matter EVO 8 9 or X or anyone will be on the top always that is a real japanese car not the focus seems to be an egg jajajaja is fuckin ugly and for pussy everyone knows sisi
what a fukin lie, there is no way that the evo supposedly 450 "hp" gets beaten by a 300 "hp" crap ass car, no matter how bad the evo driver is 150 horses is a lot of difference
3 times the power would be 150????what you failed to notice is that 200 - 50 = 150. The ST was running 150 less bhp than the supposed 450 evo. which is why the comparison of a 50bhp car vs 200bhp as there is a difference of 150bhp. Maybe some maths revision is in order hahahaa
The EVO is suposedly running 450bhp and gets blown away from a 300bhp ST, highly unlikely. Thats like comparing a 50BHP 1.0 Corsa to a 200BHP 2.0TFSI VW Golf GTI. The ST would NEVER pull that distance on a car running 50% more power than it - FACT
@b11tsy Umm from what i can the evo doesn't even look like its trying? It looks like the evo was just passing gradually and then the ST decided it would floor it so it couldn't pass. Sorry mate but this video proves nothing.
@daviep88 You cannot fucking be serious by this comparison... Kid in elementary school wouldnt make this shit comparisson that you did... You cant say that 300 vs 450 is same like 50 to 200. Thats fucking bullshit. Maybe it is same ammount of horsepower but its very different. Go take few cars and test it... And 2nd all 4 wheel drive cars loose alot of power during the transfer to all 4 wheels. Thats a well known fact and u just need to accept that ur stupid EVO got OWNED.
@daviep88 the fact is that evo has 4wd and has serious power losses cuz of that... maybe he has 450 on engine... but on wheels not a chance... + less torque = bye bye :) it got raped face it :)
What about the torque? And the AWD system on the Evo? thats easily 70bhp loss through the drivetrain. You are quoting flywheel HP but what are the actual figures at the wheels?
Ah, sorry man. I didn't realise it was tuned. Although, i highly doubt mountune have been quite accurate with there 256bhp. Its more like 270 - 280. And its over the 400NM torque that they claim as well. 0-60 only takes 5.8 and 0-100 is over in less than the claimed 14.1 so its not as feeble as you may think!
the guy was claiming 450 at the time....... then he said it wasnt mapped right. so i dunno, i put 450 ccoz that what he said with all the mods done to it. seen it since then and its look like it can fair shift!!!
@tweeny55 You'd call a scooby chavy and an ST not? You should watch top gears review of the ST for this model....rooooney!!
XXdriver2000XX 1 week ago
@I'm quoting the figures posted. 450bhp - 70bhp you say in drivetrain loss = 380bhp. The focus is 300bhp with little loss thought the drivetrain say 20bhp.
That leaves you with 380 evo vs 280 st. Yes the focus has higher torque being a 5 cylinder engine but an evo supposedly running 450bhp should still match or exceed to torque of a 300bhp st. The Evo must have had a tonne of sand in the boot to weigh it down to make it closer hahaha
daviep88 1 month ago
@12389h I'll believe it when i see it. My ST was running 265 bhp (roughly) and was a tiny bit quicker than an MPS, especially at higher speeds. However i will give you (and many other people) the EVO thing. Bare in mind that i drive high performance cars for a living, there is absolutely no way in heaven or hell that, in a straight line or other wise with 2 drivers of equal ability, a 300bhp Focus that weighs more would be quicker than a 450bhp EVO that weighs less. Its just not possible.
Fisherdaz1 2 months ago
Would yous folk read ALL the dam comments on this.
Ps I have a highly tuned Focus ST and a standard MPS is a walk in the park to leather! Sounds like someone's been lying to you on how tuned their ST is!
b11tsy 4 months ago
300hp Focus STs struggle against me in a stock Mazda 3 MPS.
I've also raced an Evo FQ360 and I could barely keep up in the MPS. So I know there is no way a 300hp ST can beat a 450hp Evo.
12389h 4 months ago
would have a ford over a scooby impreza anyday-they have beemer syndrome-chavtastic mate as Tony Blackburn once said!
tweeny55 5 months ago
Quite funny how people have been so wound up about this video.
To put the record straight here all the cars on the video are all mates going to a 1/4mile drag race in Scotland.
The ST in question was a heavily tuned ST2 with every engine tuning part available to it.
On that quick sprint the EVO got humped as they both had a count down and went for it.
No one says the evo wouldn't eventually beat the ST On track or 3miles down the line.
The fun was just showing that the ST can tango with the E
b11tsy 7 months ago 3
@b11tsy Where abouts in scotland? :D
ShreksterZ 3 months ago
why didn't wullie just kick both of ur asses? xD
FocusRS1991 8 months ago
At the end of the day its a Ford, fix or repair daily haha, enough said :').
FubuMushu 1 year ago
@FubuMushu Fastest On Race Day pal.
Clivestar08 1 year ago
And if you want a real laugh compare the Top Gear lap times for the Evos and the Focus RS and ST, even the slowest Evo is a second a lap quicker the fastest Focus.
ScoobySamP1 1 year ago
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ScoobySamP1 1 year ago
this must be a highly modified st against an fq 300 or something as the evo is in a completely different league to the st - just look at the stats. my old p1 scooby with stage one tuning had no problem against modified mark 2 RS' so a half decent Evo would dick all over an ST and that's in the dry and in a straight line, anything else it would murder it. Different league.
ScoobySamP1 1 year ago
@ScoobySamP1 ur scoobys n evo's arent shit on a rollin start pal, my old remapped LCR (280BHP) used to sit all over my mates FQ300, so as too highly modded ST i think not
Clivestar08 1 year ago
@Clivestar08
Drive train losses in a wrong wheel drive car (FWD) are roughly 12% and in a AWD circa 20% so you don't have to have a degree in Maths (and I'm guessing you don't) to work out that a 300bhp isn't quicker in straight line than a 450bhp. Not sure what an 'LCR' is but it sounds shit.
ScoobySamP1 1 year ago
@ScoobySamP1 hahaha, wtf are you goin on about! if you don't know what a LCR is then there no point me talkin to you, best stickin to your high powered grandad saloon
Clivestar08 1 year ago
@Clivestar08 what is it, a leon cupra r or some other crappy fwd shopping trolley?
ScoobySamP1 1 year ago
@ScoobySamP1 LCR Leon cupra R, Shopping trolley haha, stick with the saloon pal haha
Clivestar08 1 year ago
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ScoobySamP1 1 year ago
and now try a race on the track an watch that the evo will whuupp that st's candy ass
azzwhupin 1 year ago
the evo looks about 300bhp.
ScottishScoobs 1 year ago
all these cunts saying its like 50bhp vs 200bhp! no its fucking not! u ever thought about drag? when ur up at this kind of bhp wind and road resistance takes alot more to do with it! and the ST has about 400lb/ft.. evo about 300lb/ft.. i take it u are going to tell me a car with 50 lb/ft would beat a car with 150 lb/ft?? not a valid comparison at all torque is worth more in a race than power!
Sean21391 1 year ago
Whats the Camera car, a Fiesta ST? I recognise the mirror switch. Go the 5!
lats28883 1 year ago
@lats28883
The camera car is a Fiesta ST330 (runnin a rotrex super charger)
b11tsy 1 year ago
I completely believe this... i was watching a 412bhp evo making other cars look small in a cruise once, then it came up to a 315bhp St on a rolling start like this and the ST ruinined it, made it lookk silly. guess torque really does make a diff, and 4-wheel drive looses its edge on rolling starts...
jamesd0142 1 year ago
Wow, I wasn't expecting the ST to win that one!
I'm glad it did though ;p
PJacko1985 1 year ago
PLUS the torque in the ST is 400lbft....... the Evo is probably 300? or there abouts
last time i checked Torque wins races not just BHP!
b11tsy 1 year ago
@b11tsy
fors focus st has 320 nm a evo has 332 nm
but the focus RS has over 400 nm so ur wrong
RobinVang93 7 months ago
Pretty Conclusive, ST won.
johnnyjohn2005 1 year ago
dont matter EVO 8 9 or X or anyone will be on the top always that is a real japanese car not the focus seems to be an egg jajajaja is fuckin ugly and for pussy everyone knows sisi
EVO motherfucker !!!!!!!
volkova0 2 years ago
what a fukin lie, there is no way that the evo supposedly 450 "hp" gets beaten by a 300 "hp" crap ass car, no matter how bad the evo driver is 150 horses is a lot of difference
CPEVOX 2 years ago
FACT! lol well said wullie!
b11tsy 2 years ago
3 times the power would be 150????what you failed to notice is that 200 - 50 = 150. The ST was running 150 less bhp than the supposed 450 evo. which is why the comparison of a 50bhp car vs 200bhp as there is a difference of 150bhp. Maybe some maths revision is in order hahahaa
daviep88 2 years ago
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daviep88 2 years ago
evos are very slow when compared to a car with the same power but it has been modified to the same power!
if you think that an evo is quicker than an ST then you have problems lol i smoke them all day long up at crail and i have a fiesta st FWD!!!!
altough evos are immense with a good few grand spent on them!
im sure this evo wasnt 450 at the time i think it was 420 at the most but it is running good power now!
even with that the
wulliefst 2 years ago
ST humps the evo all day long and if no one believes that then dont watch car racing videos as u dont see the point!
a video out of my car with the evo getting horsed of the st is true and the driver of the evo admitted to it!
just dont comment if you are blind and cant see the ST pulling away from the evo!
wulliefst 2 years ago
The EVO is suposedly running 450bhp and gets blown away from a 300bhp ST, highly unlikely. Thats like comparing a 50BHP 1.0 Corsa to a 200BHP 2.0TFSI VW Golf GTI. The ST would NEVER pull that distance on a car running 50% more power than it - FACT
daviep88 2 years ago 5
FACT that evo got PUMPED!!! lol
b11tsy 2 years ago
@b11tsy Umm from what i can the evo doesn't even look like its trying? It looks like the evo was just passing gradually and then the ST decided it would floor it so it couldn't pass. Sorry mate but this video proves nothing.
FubuMushu 1 year ago
@FubuMushu did you see the brake lights on the ST, so hardly tryin to keep him there was he
Clivestar08 1 year ago
@b11tsy lol so what st still piece of shit evo=engineering marvel.
chickenpax1 7 months ago
that is 3 times the power 50 - 200 you have to go and get some help!
wulliefst 2 years ago
@daviep88 You cannot fucking be serious by this comparison... Kid in elementary school wouldnt make this shit comparisson that you did... You cant say that 300 vs 450 is same like 50 to 200. Thats fucking bullshit. Maybe it is same ammount of horsepower but its very different. Go take few cars and test it... And 2nd all 4 wheel drive cars loose alot of power during the transfer to all 4 wheels. Thats a well known fact and u just need to accept that ur stupid EVO got OWNED.
FocusRS1991 2 years ago
@daviep88 the fact is that evo has 4wd and has serious power losses cuz of that... maybe he has 450 on engine... but on wheels not a chance... + less torque = bye bye :) it got raped face it :)
FocusRS1991 7 months ago
@daviep88
st has more torque it has a head start but would be caught up and over taken eventually
ancientsea1 7 months ago
@daviep88
This is a ridiculous comment.
What about the torque? And the AWD system on the Evo? thats easily 70bhp loss through the drivetrain. You are quoting flywheel HP but what are the actual figures at the wheels?
michaelm67 1 month ago
well at least we know the fiesta it is filmed from would hump everything there that day lol including all the focus ST's and evo's :)
hahahahaha superchargers for the win
wulliefst 2 years ago 3
the race was planed relly evo kicks st ass every 1 knows it unles evo never dropped a gear
iby20091 2 years ago
haha you think???? guess again the proof is in the pudding there! Not ALL EVO's pump ST's!
b11tsy 2 years ago
I've got a mountune ST and it isn't as fast as an EVO, not quite anyway so there has to have been summit wrong with it.
Fisherdaz1 2 years ago
Your montune ST will only be 265bhp.. pretty feeble compared to the 300bhp and 350lbft of torque that ST is running! :L
b11tsy 2 years ago
Ah, sorry man. I didn't realise it was tuned. Although, i highly doubt mountune have been quite accurate with there 256bhp. Its more like 270 - 280. And its over the 400NM torque that they claim as well. 0-60 only takes 5.8 and 0-100 is over in less than the claimed 14.1 so its not as feeble as you may think!
Fisherdaz1 2 years ago
yeah its all tuned with Buefin that one,
ive got a 340bhp 410lbft ST and it humiliates Evos in the dry... in the wet another matter!! lol
b11tsy 2 years ago
Hahaha....the focus chopped the Evo lmao.
The focus has devastating in gear acceleration..and a lot of people dont realise this.
It is the mother of violence!
delitemyheart 2 years ago
it certainly got its assed kicked that day! ;)
b11tsy 3 years ago
I was in the st and that wasnt the first (or last) time the evo was humpd that day!
Broon317 3 years ago 2
the guy was claiming 450 at the time....... then he said it wasnt mapped right. so i dunno, i put 450 ccoz that what he said with all the mods done to it. seen it since then and its look like it can fair shift!!!
b11tsy 3 years ago
jo haha ;)
I testet it my 225hp Subaru exelerates on the "Autobahn" even with 2 different standart Sts.
Nordlicht05 2 years ago
So roughly what bhp was the evo running at the time?
Interesting stuff
J13MEM 3 years ago
the Evo is now runnin 450 but i dont think it was mapped right at the time... the focus pumped it easily!
b11tsy 3 years ago
Im taking it the Evo is 450 bhp? Did the focus win?
J13MEM 3 years ago
notice how the ST breaked when the EVO punched the gas and STILL humped it!!
b11tsy 3 years ago