Actually they don't know that for sure. Half the places Gandalf goes to they think he's some crazy old coot who sells fireworks. Most of the people who do know something about him fall far short of knowing he was one of the Maiar too.
Its a little unrealistic I think, that anyone in Tolkien world, a world where people know beyond all shadow of a fact God is real and death is absolutely NOT their end, would have any fear of it.
I love Middle Earth, and I love Tolkien work, dont get me wrong, but how could anyone realistically have any fear at all if they knew without any doubt or chance that death was just transitory. Yet people in Middle Earth DID fear for their lives at times.
Because they want to live, they want to see another sunrise, they want to live to do more and finish what they can; it is human nature. Just as well, the passing itself is scary as it is unknown, it is unexperienced, and thus not understood and we fear what we do not understand.
@berserker276 Why not? Verisimilitude is usually a chief concern of world building, it certainly was for Tolkien who went to great lengths to achieve it (Certainly greater than any writer before him and very likely since.).
Tolkien was meticulous in his effort to create what he referred to as a "secondary world".
my favorite part of this scene is when they look at pippin, and it makes me tear up all the time, this is one of my favorite scenes in the return of the king, even if it si the smallest scene in the movie, it means so much to me. Because everyone wonders about death when the topic comes up, but its not death that people are afraid of, its the way they die that they are afraid of, and thats wat pippin is wondering whats gonna happen.
A lot of peopel have tried it in the past: The Bible was written for it, God was worshipped for it, people burried and Mc Kellen and Jackson do it in 1.14 minutes! NO ONE ever succeeded to make death feel like a part of life, which it is, untill now! This is the reason why LOTR is the best movie ever: it's not about Middle Earth, it's about us all, about life and the things after it, times of trial and keep on fighting. And when you look into Ian's eyes, you KNOW it is true
When I watch this scene I can't help tearing up. And yet, I watch it often.
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I can see the indescribable beauty of the Beyond in Sir Ian's eyes, I hear it in his voice. He makes me believe that he glimpsed the ever-after. I can't explain the way it shines through him, but he exudes both mystery and power here.
I absolutely LOVE this movie. I love the whole trioligy. Best movies ever made, and probably always will be. Some of the speeches are absolutely amazing.
@gloinstrong It makes me sad that you willingly believe loving another is a sin. I find it even more sad that you are willing to believe and support someone (God) who says some loves are wrong. I hope... someday... you find the courage to make your own choices about what is right and wrong, and that those choices you make ensure liberty and happiness for everyone.
I do not believe in God, but I do believe in the power of love.
@Emmercedes It makes me sad, that you have no IDEA what true love is supposed to be. I LOVE my dog, does that mean i should BAng it? True love, the way we were designed to have, is between a man and a woman. A man with a man will NEVER EVER be as good. Look at sam and Frodo. That is true love between brothers. DO they have to bang each other? No
@gloinstrong A large percentage of animals (heynas, penguins, girraffes, lions, etc.) are also homosexual. Also, some of the most famous historical figures including Ralph Waldo Emerson (he basically created the standard American English, if you failed to know) and Shakespeare were also homosexual.
I do know what true love is. I give intimate love to my boyfriend, and even though you are insulting me and thousands of others I don't hate you. I can find nothing in my heart but sadness for you.
@Emmercedes Shakespeare wasn't a homosexual, I don't know where you got your facts but most of what we know of Shakespeare is merely speculation. Don't use that as a fact in an argument.
@tmacthewinner99 I got it from Shakespeare on Wikipedia. Albeit, the information there may be false, and the information there on Shakespeare was speculation--- the main point of me saying he was, was to imply... people can be great whether they are homosexual or not.
I do apologize for stating it as fact, I should have inputted "there is speculation if he was...". I appreciate the correction.
@gloinstrong And, I think if you knew anything about love, it is that love knows no bounds. Love knows nothing of rank nor riverbank (Shakespeare quote right there). Love is ungovernable, unbiddable, like a riot in the heart.
I feel bad, that you have never experienced a sort of love that is uncontrollably momentous and beautiful in your life. I feel even worse that because you haven't, you say that certain loves are wrong despite that they are just as beautiful.
@gloinstrong Thankfully, AIDS (all capital letters, as it is an acronym) is an disease transmitted through contact with another person (i.e., their blood, saliva, or sex), and my boyfriend doesn't have AIDS!
And in any case, AIDS effects everyone, it is not limited to homosexuals. Nice try though, but you get no credit from me.
As always, I feel bad that you hate so many people because who or how they love. Have fun with your hatred. I wish you well.
@HeroineWith1000Faces Yes it is. It is nice that there is troll screams and chaos in the beginning, but it just... melts away to his face, and that single moment. Ian Mckellen's voice (in my opinion) illustrates this... beautiful imagining of that distant possibility of an afterlife. And his honest face shows me that... there isn't lies, deception, just truth. Simple honesty with no form of exaggeration to help ease Pippin. I very much enjoy this scene, and for me, (next chat box)
@HeroineWith1000Faces His description of that afterlife has nothing to do with heaven. But that's me, everything about this movie I don't associate with anything religious. It is what it is, and to me, personally, adding any sort of real life thing (religion, food, notion of certain mythical creatures, emotions, etc.) would twist the movie to something different than what was presented to me.
I hope you enjoy this scene... and the movies... and, well, life. = D
@RelytDraw51 Kid, you have no idea what you are talking about. Until you read all of J.R Tolkiens works, please sit down. You have to be a complete nimrod to think Gandalf does not parallel with Jesus.
@TheDMFdude - of course I agree, and thank you for the nice comment. Both of those scenes are my favorites as well, and I've posted both here. Thanks again!
It usually lies not in my character to comment, however, I happened to notice many comments along the line of an unfulfilled longing for LOTR & Tolkien to be reality. Tolkien wrote a beautiful epic, worthy to be set alongside Beowulf and Chaucer. That being said, simply being in the line of mythical epics does not mean everything in them is false. It is true that men ought to be courageous, that friendship is a beautiful thing etc.
Secondly, I would wish to point out that Tolkien, while not writing an allegory, was certainly influenced by his Roman Catholicism. Perhaps, we have become too modern and made the mistake of progressing in the wrong direction. Perhaps, there is more to life than mere atoms and the flux of time; as Shakespeare said, "There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, than drempt of in your philosophies." Perhaps Tolkien was right, and the Catholics remembered a truth we all have forgotten.
Sometimes, I wish Lord of the Rings actually existed. Exactly how J.R.R. Tolkien made it. It's an epic collection of books. Don't you guys ever wish it?
@ARCproductionsgirl Awww, what a sweet thing to say! Thanks ARCproductionsgirl! If you were about 40 years older (or so), I'd fall in love. Hahhahaha :) At any rate only ONE person doesn't like it, and that ain't bad. :)
pred47 ... a note to you, I really don't keep 'score' so I'm never offended by anyone's comments, they have a right to their opinion. I also have a right to mine, and that's just the way life is. Thanks to you BOTH for the comments!! :) I love you all!
One day will come. with peACE and freedom were all hate and fear will be nomore an then:)...... If you beleve in beyond the sun. A far better place liyes just beyond:) Sin will never be remember. Then with in seconds you know your home!:)
i always found it funny how he seems to describing Goloka (god's abode in Vedic scripture). Wonder if Tolkien ever came across such texts. Good scene.
Here's the thing: IF you ever find yourself in an impossible situation, and you KNOW you're about to die ... Well, how did you think it would all turn out??? Everybody faces this inevitable demise, because that's the way things are, all forms dissolve. Everything goes back into the entropy trough, but there's a fundamental flaw in that we use intellect to define the world (normally), and intellect isn't always correct!
@rictheis That reminds me of another Gandalf quote, "Many that live deserve death, and some that die deserve life. Can you give it to them, Frodo? Do not be too eager to deal out death in judgement; even the very wise cannot see all ends." Awesome comment, I liked it.
i remember in the cinema that bit at the end when the door bangs frightened the living daylights out of me! it was all really quiet when gandalf and pippen were talking and then suddenly a big BANG!
Why do people always equate life after with something to do with a god or, heaven forbid, religion?
How many more stories of atheists having near death experiences do we have to hear before it has credence? So many talk about how there was indeed no 'death' but rather a continuation of life? If it was all to do with some god or religion, they obviously wouldn't experience this.
Eternal life isn't something that has to be earned or grovelled for: it is a given from the moment you are 'born'.
You know... I don't believe in God. I certainly have my doubts about there being any sort of after life, but at the end of the day, even with all the doubt...I hope there is an afterlife...or something that means we can live on.
A far green country...How I wish it were true. Wandering in this morbid black plain of life, I wish an golden strand of hope and peace would give me holding for whatever it is I am fighting on for.
@kellorkleft02 - If you find your center, live totally in the moment, then you will find out who and what you really are ... THEN you will understand that there is no morbid black plain of life unless that's what you want. The truth is in the silence, and is where wisdom dwells. Fight for whatever it is that you hold dear, fight for your bliss!
The films were starting to form in the World War. White shores is a reference to the soldiers returning home to England. That is why the music starts just as Gandalf says "White Shores".... Tolkien wrote drafts of this book in the war.
Actually, Tolkien was, even though he was of course influenced from his experiences in the war, very clear on the point that his works are not allegorical.
@kellorkleft02 It is true,it depends how far your belief is in your hart,is your hard not crying in that darkness...it is the outside world what makes you not to belief.the devil.please read the bible with your hart and i pray and hope that slowly the darkness will go out of your hart and light will fill it...gods way.god blesh you.and ps fight with your hart and you will be unbeatable
Hopefully this is what reality looks like. i dunno, one time i dreamed that there was someone shouting on me very intensively, holding a gun on my head. i didn't fear, somehow it was like i knew i'd die there, and i had a peaceful feeling kneeing in front of him. he finally couldn't hold his finger back, so he shot. i heard the shot, and then there was darkness, and i felt so fuckin', FUCKIN' fine. there was no pain or something, just peace.
The book explains it better, but he was not well when he came back from his adventure. He got sick a lot and he was in pain. It was like a gift for him not to have to stay and live his life suffering the effects of the ring.
Thank you for correcting my grammar and showing your point of view, it is really apprechiated:). I am unsure about the schools of theology, however, since the Roman Catholic Church are Christians and were the first, but I'll look into it. Thank you:).
Catholics were the first Christians, and Christianity includes Catholicism in addition to the many Protestant branches of the faith, that are all splits off of Catholicism.
Of course, you're all just Jews that believe Jesus was the Messiah anyway. Funny world we live in.
'theblackestnight'- as someone who has read over 100 books on JRRT an went to the 50th anniv in england of the publishing of LOTR, i think ur right, he was raised by a priest, but started to expand his mind theologically an question the simplistic superstitions he had been taught, only in his later yrs. [well after bringing CSLewis back to chritianity.
woody allen once wrote "im not afraid to die, i just dont want to be there when it happens.... and im on that same thought....and coming from this its unexplainiable...it makes you think of peace in the way they talk about it and not a disturbance
Very good words to live by. We are the only things on earth that know we are going to die. Because we are the smartest beings on earth we should not fear death but accept the fact that we will pass someday.
I think it's quite naive to think that only humans know when they will die... Elephants for an example leave their pack when they know they are about to die. But you're right on that we should not fear death.
McKellan should have at least one best supporting actor for one the three film nominations not good enough for what he did. This scene is amazing. Death is always related to Bad and Evil, but nobody truly knows what death is. For some reason people always think what they don't understand is evil. Death is mystery man shouldn't fear.
This is great because Gandalf treated Pippin like crap in the first book, calling him "Fool of a Took!" and by the end, it is just them together about to die willingly.
NeoSapien, I feel so sorry for you. This is a wonderful interpretation of how J.R.R. Tolkien viewed Heaven. If you don't believe in God, how on Earth does this film make any sense?
Actually I find there's more morality in Tolkein's works than you find in the New or Old Testament texts (there's no reference to killing a child if he/she disobeys their parents, etc...). Also his works haven't been distorted by translators, excised by commentators, or added to by revisionists. All in all a very sound morality without all the dogma.
Tolkien created his own gods and his own heaven which is far more epic, moral and deep than the Christian concepts. Besides, Tolkien lost his faith in Christianity towards the end of his life.
Tolkein was a devout Catholic Christian who devoted the Lord of the Rings, espically the Sillmarillion, to premoting Christian concepts, with 'Eru' the One referring to God. He kept his faith throughout the first world war. I hope he didn't loose his faith towards the end of his life:). He showed God in all his Glory.
Yes, JRRT did write this as well as the speech in my other video post "Journey In The Dark - Gandalf and Frodo" ... although I didn't really recall this dialogue (had to look it up), I do recall that one. It has been many years since I read the trilogy. The music here is also wonderful. Thanks for posting your comment.
he did write this but in the 1st book when frodo was sleeping in old tom Bombadil's house... im not joking frodo was baffled by this dream. but in this scene they used the quote quite nicely :'D
This is just a guess Markeyssc, but maybe because frodo and bilbo were Ring bearers and how they will live a little long than most has somthing to do with it. Just a thought
Actually they don't know that for sure. Half the places Gandalf goes to they think he's some crazy old coot who sells fireworks. Most of the people who do know something about him fall far short of knowing he was one of the Maiar too.
deviljon 23 hours ago
I've seen this movie more times than I can even attempt to count, but this part gets to me every time...
Every. Frickin'. Time.
Game1ngAssass1n 5 days ago
Its a little unrealistic I think, that anyone in Tolkien world, a world where people know beyond all shadow of a fact God is real and death is absolutely NOT their end, would have any fear of it.
I love Middle Earth, and I love Tolkien work, dont get me wrong, but how could anyone realistically have any fear at all if they knew without any doubt or chance that death was just transitory. Yet people in Middle Earth DID fear for their lives at times.
EmperorofCartoons 2 weeks ago
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Because they want to live, they want to see another sunrise, they want to live to do more and finish what they can; it is human nature. Just as well, the passing itself is scary as it is unknown, it is unexperienced, and thus not understood and we fear what we do not understand.
Dominator046 2 weeks ago
@EmperorofCartoons Are you seriously talking about realism on an LOTR video lol?
berserker276 1 week ago in playlist More videos from rictheis
@berserker276 Why not? Verisimilitude is usually a chief concern of world building, it certainly was for Tolkien who went to great lengths to achieve it (Certainly greater than any writer before him and very likely since.).
Tolkien was meticulous in his effort to create what he referred to as a "secondary world".
EmperorofCartoons 1 week ago
So beautiful, and true.
ihopefornothing 3 weeks ago
"Well it wont be that bad... at least for me. I`ll become Gandalf the pink and you`ll be eaten by trolls..."
SuperJuliusC 1 month ago
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SAOrules 2 months ago
When I'm about to die, Gandalf's words here will be echoing through my mind at that moment.
Greatbonzz 3 months ago
R.I.P. Anita... I wait for the encounter with you in a far green country!
caltha90 3 months ago 2
thats what i expect when i die...white shores and beyond...a far green country under a swift sunrise....
Chem1kill 4 months ago
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HarveyIsFat 4 months ago
my favorite part of this scene is when they look at pippin, and it makes me tear up all the time, this is one of my favorite scenes in the return of the king, even if it si the smallest scene in the movie, it means so much to me. Because everyone wonders about death when the topic comes up, but its not death that people are afraid of, its the way they die that they are afraid of, and thats wat pippin is wondering whats gonna happen.
Lazysweetgirl94 4 months ago
A lot of peopel have tried it in the past: The Bible was written for it, God was worshipped for it, people burried and Mc Kellen and Jackson do it in 1.14 minutes! NO ONE ever succeeded to make death feel like a part of life, which it is, untill now! This is the reason why LOTR is the best movie ever: it's not about Middle Earth, it's about us all, about life and the things after it, times of trial and keep on fighting. And when you look into Ian's eyes, you KNOW it is true
krasnoir 5 months ago
This makes your fear of death melt like snow
p123970 5 months ago
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krasnoir 5 months ago
When I watch this scene I can't help tearing up. And yet, I watch it often.
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I can see the indescribable beauty of the Beyond in Sir Ian's eyes, I hear it in his voice. He makes me believe that he glimpsed the ever-after. I can't explain the way it shines through him, but he exudes both mystery and power here.
Thank you so much for uploading this.
4thel0ve 5 months ago
holy god.. this is so beautiful .. gandalfs voice .. the music... this is why this movie god 11 oscars..
PersianWolverine 5 months ago 3
@PersianWolverine Yeah, but it should've won 13 Oscars. Sean Astin with a Supporting Actor and Ian McKellen with the Lead Actor.
KristianKronicles 5 months ago
@Edinscott56789 all so Soliders who said they will fight to the last man.
veal1994 6 months ago
I absolutely LOVE this movie. I love the whole trioligy. Best movies ever made, and probably always will be. Some of the speeches are absolutely amazing.
HollyMayWright 6 months ago
Pippin: Never thought it would end this way. Gandalf: End? our journey doesn't end here. Death is just another path that we all must take.
ShadowSolaris7 6 months ago
Gandalf = Jesus Christ
Aslan = Jesus Christ
Tolkien and C.S Lewis were Christians. Hence Gandalf, is explaining our journey after Death, which everyone will take.
gloinstrong 7 months ago
@gloinstrong I love how Gandalf is played by a gay man, and yet a gay man is apparently a disgrace in the eyes of God. XD makes me happy for change.
Emmercedes 6 months ago in playlist Cool?
@Emmercedes It's not a disgrace, it's a sin. Just like anything else. He hates the sin, not the sinner.
gloinstrong 6 months ago 2
@gloinstrong It makes me sad that you willingly believe loving another is a sin. I find it even more sad that you are willing to believe and support someone (God) who says some loves are wrong. I hope... someday... you find the courage to make your own choices about what is right and wrong, and that those choices you make ensure liberty and happiness for everyone.
I do not believe in God, but I do believe in the power of love.
Emmercedes 6 months ago
@Emmercedes It makes me sad, that you have no IDEA what true love is supposed to be. I LOVE my dog, does that mean i should BAng it? True love, the way we were designed to have, is between a man and a woman. A man with a man will NEVER EVER be as good. Look at sam and Frodo. That is true love between brothers. DO they have to bang each other? No
gloinstrong 6 months ago
@gloinstrong A large percentage of animals (heynas, penguins, girraffes, lions, etc.) are also homosexual. Also, some of the most famous historical figures including Ralph Waldo Emerson (he basically created the standard American English, if you failed to know) and Shakespeare were also homosexual.
I do know what true love is. I give intimate love to my boyfriend, and even though you are insulting me and thousands of others I don't hate you. I can find nothing in my heart but sadness for you.
Emmercedes 6 months ago
@Emmercedes Shakespeare wasn't a homosexual, I don't know where you got your facts but most of what we know of Shakespeare is merely speculation. Don't use that as a fact in an argument.
tmacthewinner99 6 months ago
@tmacthewinner99 I got it from Shakespeare on Wikipedia. Albeit, the information there may be false, and the information there on Shakespeare was speculation--- the main point of me saying he was, was to imply... people can be great whether they are homosexual or not.
I do apologize for stating it as fact, I should have inputted "there is speculation if he was...". I appreciate the correction.
Emmercedes 6 months ago
@gloinstrong And, I think if you knew anything about love, it is that love knows no bounds. Love knows nothing of rank nor riverbank (Shakespeare quote right there). Love is ungovernable, unbiddable, like a riot in the heart.
I feel bad, that you have never experienced a sort of love that is uncontrollably momentous and beautiful in your life. I feel even worse that because you haven't, you say that certain loves are wrong despite that they are just as beautiful.
This exchange is over.
Emmercedes 6 months ago
@Emmercedes I feel bad that you bang guys. Have fun with Aids.
gloinstrong 6 months ago
@gloinstrong Thankfully, AIDS (all capital letters, as it is an acronym) is an disease transmitted through contact with another person (i.e., their blood, saliva, or sex), and my boyfriend doesn't have AIDS!
And in any case, AIDS effects everyone, it is not limited to homosexuals. Nice try though, but you get no credit from me.
As always, I feel bad that you hate so many people because who or how they love. Have fun with your hatred. I wish you well.
Emmercedes 6 months ago
@gloinstrong Ah, also. I blocked you. I urge you to not waste your time responding.
Emmercedes 6 months ago
@Emmercedes Good. I hate ignorant people like that. You rock. Also, isn't this video wonderful? (getting back to the video, lol)
HeroineWith1000Faces 6 months ago
@HeroineWith1000Faces Yes it is. It is nice that there is troll screams and chaos in the beginning, but it just... melts away to his face, and that single moment. Ian Mckellen's voice (in my opinion) illustrates this... beautiful imagining of that distant possibility of an afterlife. And his honest face shows me that... there isn't lies, deception, just truth. Simple honesty with no form of exaggeration to help ease Pippin. I very much enjoy this scene, and for me, (next chat box)
Emmercedes 6 months ago
@HeroineWith1000Faces His description of that afterlife has nothing to do with heaven. But that's me, everything about this movie I don't associate with anything religious. It is what it is, and to me, personally, adding any sort of real life thing (religion, food, notion of certain mythical creatures, emotions, etc.) would twist the movie to something different than what was presented to me.
I hope you enjoy this scene... and the movies... and, well, life. = D
Emmercedes 6 months ago
@gloinstrong Except Gandalf was not Jesus.. And this description was from the very end when Frodo went to Valinor.
I'm a Christian too and while this is a Christian work its not meant to be allegorical
RelytDraw51 6 months ago
@RelytDraw51 Kid, you have no idea what you are talking about. Until you read all of J.R Tolkiens works, please sit down. You have to be a complete nimrod to think Gandalf does not parallel with Jesus.
gloinstrong 6 months ago
@NorthDakotaFarmboy like molesting small boys and covering it up?
FrogWalrus 7 months ago
Thumbs up if you cry every time you see this scene.
jokerman148 7 months ago
@TheDMFdude - of course I agree, and thank you for the nice comment. Both of those scenes are my favorites as well, and I've posted both here. Thanks again!
rictheis 9 months ago
It usually lies not in my character to comment, however, I happened to notice many comments along the line of an unfulfilled longing for LOTR & Tolkien to be reality. Tolkien wrote a beautiful epic, worthy to be set alongside Beowulf and Chaucer. That being said, simply being in the line of mythical epics does not mean everything in them is false. It is true that men ought to be courageous, that friendship is a beautiful thing etc.
NorthDakotaFarmboy 9 months ago
Secondly, I would wish to point out that Tolkien, while not writing an allegory, was certainly influenced by his Roman Catholicism. Perhaps, we have become too modern and made the mistake of progressing in the wrong direction. Perhaps, there is more to life than mere atoms and the flux of time; as Shakespeare said, "There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, than drempt of in your philosophies." Perhaps Tolkien was right, and the Catholics remembered a truth we all have forgotten.
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jarw28 1 year ago
i remember wacthing this in the cinema .. that moment.. it just was so beautiful.. tears were running .. 11 oscars.. no suprise..
PersianWolverine 1 year ago
i want this playing on my death bed , so many good quotes from LOTR
ant851114 1 year ago
Sometimes, I wish Lord of the Rings actually existed. Exactly how J.R.R. Tolkien made it. It's an epic collection of books. Don't you guys ever wish it?
jokerman148 1 year ago 4
@jokerman148 Yes with Orks running down all over the place? But of course the Riders of Rohan their to stop them? Yes I would like that very much =)
PatriotGabe 10 months ago
I watch this video dozens of times and I still jump at the end, when the door gets hit!
acdc14terrace 1 year ago
One person disliked this, out of the 30,000 people who watched this video, one person disliked this.
pred47 1 year ago
@pred47 they missed the like button, is what happened(:
ARCproductionsgirl 10 months ago
@ARCproductionsgirl Awww, what a sweet thing to say! Thanks ARCproductionsgirl! If you were about 40 years older (or so), I'd fall in love. Hahhahaha :) At any rate only ONE person doesn't like it, and that ain't bad. :)
pred47 ... a note to you, I really don't keep 'score' so I'm never offended by anyone's comments, they have a right to their opinion. I also have a right to mine, and that's just the way life is. Thanks to you BOTH for the comments!! :) I love you all!
rictheis 10 months ago
One day will come. with peACE and freedom were all hate and fear will be nomore an then:)...... If you beleve in beyond the sun. A far better place liyes just beyond:) Sin will never be remember. Then with in seconds you know your home!:)
gingerguitarplayer 1 year ago
"I didn't think it would end this way" How many brave soldiers have said that to their commanders?
edinscot56789 1 year ago
*bows to Sir McKellen*
TheDeistAngle 1 year ago
"death... a path we all must take.." Except if you're an elf. hahaha.
GeeZone777 1 year ago
@GeeZone777 Thats hilarious!
acdc14terrace 1 year ago
Nice
sadly most are just going to get fire and pain
Foobyking9000 1 year ago
@Foobyking9000 If you believe in that nonsense, then maybe. I believe everyone finds true peace in the beyond regardless of their "sins".
Jaidabecca 1 year ago
this is what will happen when i die i will see elves waiting for me at the shores
josepasillas530 1 year ago
I love this and the one in the Fellowship of the ring. And The place he talks about is the Undying lands where Gandalf is from.
tabby4109 1 year ago
i always found it funny how he seems to describing Goloka (god's abode in Vedic scripture). Wonder if Tolkien ever came across such texts. Good scene.
Darkonia 1 year ago
I've made a song with this scene as lyrics. It's called ''Heaven'' Check it out :)
thedreamportal 1 year ago
Here's the thing: IF you ever find yourself in an impossible situation, and you KNOW you're about to die ... Well, how did you think it would all turn out??? Everybody faces this inevitable demise, because that's the way things are, all forms dissolve. Everything goes back into the entropy trough, but there's a fundamental flaw in that we use intellect to define the world (normally), and intellect isn't always correct!
rictheis 1 year ago 16
@rictheis That reminds me of another Gandalf quote, "Many that live deserve death, and some that die deserve life. Can you give it to them, Frodo? Do not be too eager to deal out death in judgement; even the very wise cannot see all ends." Awesome comment, I liked it.
TheMrwouldyourather 4 months ago
'I didn't think it would end this way' How many soldiers have said that in so many wars?
edinscot56789 1 year ago 6
This is one of my most favorite scenes in LOTR~and one of my favorite quotes from Gandalf himself.Thanks for uploading this.
TheExtreme9Fan 1 year ago 2
When he talk's like that i feel like that im being warm and not afaraid from death :P
lolbobl 1 year ago 2
Thise audio file is used in my song : White shores is seen. I have it up on youtube
OdinsbaneOfficial 1 year ago
i remember in the cinema that bit at the end when the door bangs frightened the living daylights out of me! it was all really quiet when gandalf and pippen were talking and then suddenly a big BANG!
calahoon22 1 year ago 7
Why do people always equate life after with something to do with a god or, heaven forbid, religion?
How many more stories of atheists having near death experiences do we have to hear before it has credence? So many talk about how there was indeed no 'death' but rather a continuation of life? If it was all to do with some god or religion, they obviously wouldn't experience this.
Eternal life isn't something that has to be earned or grovelled for: it is a given from the moment you are 'born'.
Follz19 2 years ago 2
well said.....
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ctcole77 1 year ago
You know... I don't believe in God. I certainly have my doubts about there being any sort of after life, but at the end of the day, even with all the doubt...I hope there is an afterlife...or something that means we can live on.
Ontioro 2 years ago 6
im mormon and we believe that we will be reunited with our loved ones after we die
frobod11 1 year ago
haha i got really relaxed listening to it with my headphones on quiet loud just as it got quiet the troll banged on the gate and made me jump!
sidstalinsawyer 2 years ago
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And if we do see the worst out of Obama and his minions - then the next life will bring us pleasure
JOQ001 2 years ago
A far green country...How I wish it were true. Wandering in this morbid black plain of life, I wish an golden strand of hope and peace would give me holding for whatever it is I am fighting on for.
kellorkleft02 2 years ago 16
"There is always hope."
I have hope in Jesus. Easy to say, harder to live. I dunno how I keep doing it, but it happens.
Enderschoice 2 years ago 5
@kellorkleft02 - If you find your center, live totally in the moment, then you will find out who and what you really are ... THEN you will understand that there is no morbid black plain of life unless that's what you want. The truth is in the silence, and is where wisdom dwells. Fight for whatever it is that you hold dear, fight for your bliss!
rictheis 1 year ago 19
The films were starting to form in the World War. White shores is a reference to the soldiers returning home to England. That is why the music starts just as Gandalf says "White Shores".... Tolkien wrote drafts of this book in the war.
justabloke1 1 year ago
@justabloke1 not really.....the white shores reference the land of the Valinar, or the Blessed Ones...
sapherno11 1 year ago
@justabloke1
Actually, Tolkien was, even though he was of course influenced from his experiences in the war, very clear on the point that his works are not allegorical.
JenBadGirlWannabe 1 year ago
@kellorkleft02 It is true,it depends how far your belief is in your hart,is your hard not crying in that darkness...it is the outside world what makes you not to belief.the devil.please read the bible with your hart and i pray and hope that slowly the darkness will go out of your hart and light will fill it...gods way.god blesh you.and ps fight with your hart and you will be unbeatable
13dutchdennis13 10 months ago 3
Hopefully this is what reality looks like. i dunno, one time i dreamed that there was someone shouting on me very intensively, holding a gun on my head. i didn't fear, somehow it was like i knew i'd die there, and i had a peaceful feeling kneeing in front of him. he finally couldn't hold his finger back, so he shot. i heard the shot, and then there was darkness, and i felt so fuckin', FUCKIN' fine. there was no pain or something, just peace.
Gapfruit 2 years ago 3
I dont understand why does Frodo have to leave ???
jegergodhaha 2 years ago
@jegergodhaha
The book explains it better, but he was not well when he came back from his adventure. He got sick a lot and he was in pain. It was like a gift for him not to have to stay and live his life suffering the effects of the ring.
Freedom4evernalways 2 years ago
Maybe death for us humans in earth has nothing to do with god. Maybe its a natural process which takes place, one which we have not discovered yet.
rd21311 2 years ago 6
Thank you for correcting my grammar and showing your point of view, it is really apprechiated:). I am unsure about the schools of theology, however, since the Roman Catholic Church are Christians and were the first, but I'll look into it. Thank you:).
J1NXY0 2 years ago
Catholics were the first Christians, and Christianity includes Catholicism in addition to the many Protestant branches of the faith, that are all splits off of Catholicism.
Of course, you're all just Jews that believe Jesus was the Messiah anyway. Funny world we live in.
murphy3162 2 years ago
'theblackestnight'- as someone who has read over 100 books on JRRT an went to the 50th anniv in england of the publishing of LOTR, i think ur right, he was raised by a priest, but started to expand his mind theologically an question the simplistic superstitions he had been taught, only in his later yrs. [well after bringing CSLewis back to chritianity.
ptthunder 2 years ago
My favorite speachs----
Gandalfs speach to frodo in Moria-
and Sams speach to Frodo in Osghiliath :)
Just love them :D
sibirc7 2 years ago 2
*Sir Ian McKellen* is a hell of an actor.
degapapillon 2 years ago 69
Gandalf is a hell of an actor.
Jeter16t 2 years ago 11
i love that one, too
19Pusteblume95 2 years ago
This is my favourite bit in all the movies. Followed closely by Theoden's speech and the Rohirrim charge.
Kalliedes 2 years ago 5
Tolkien was indeed a genius! And Peter Jackson, Phillipa Boyens and Fran Walsh, too.
I do imagine death is not the end, that the journey goes ever on and on. But this lines of Gandalf...and all turns to silver glass...
I hope, it'll be like this. that everything around someone turns silver glass
ThePrincesssarah92 2 years ago 3
Overwhelming words....
Firecatsrule 2 years ago 3
i think this is one of the best moments in the movie, and the best line in the book
Zeppelinizzer 2 years ago 5
Gandalf: making druids look epic since the 1940s.
RedCrayonFace 2 years ago 8
Hey watch my piano cover of the song from this Scene
kleinetl 2 years ago
yes itis really awsome 5/5
sakugaaruto 2 years ago
GANDALF IS PRO he owns everyone
ElderLordAresNecrus 2 years ago
woody allen once wrote "im not afraid to die, i just dont want to be there when it happens.... and im on that same thought....and coming from this its unexplainiable...it makes you think of peace in the way they talk about it and not a disturbance
XXXroofmanXXX 2 years ago 3
One of the best scenes in the film.. but the ending of your vid.. woah.. shocker :D
RkPhil0794 2 years ago 2
Very good words to live by. We are the only things on earth that know we are going to die. Because we are the smartest beings on earth we should not fear death but accept the fact that we will pass someday.
Jeter4prez09 2 years ago 10
Well maybe animals know they are one day going to die too! lol
BlackFlame62 2 years ago
I think it's quite naive to think that only humans know when they will die... Elephants for an example leave their pack when they know they are about to die. But you're right on that we should not fear death.
FinalCelticFantasy 2 years ago 13
Just the way we face it and the way it happens...
juankmilo07 2 years ago 4
Cat's leave when they are ready to die as well - they hide for some reason.
mosihasteen 2 years ago 5
Pure perfection..Middle earth is my Heaven..Thank you x
samuself 2 years ago 7
this is just beautifull :) thanks for this moment Lotr :)
Dunedain266 2 years ago 4
I hope our journey after death is how Gandalf describes it.
ATMofAnubis 2 years ago 62
@ATMofAnubis it is, it actually reminds me basically of heavon from the christian belief in other words
codfanhere123 10 months ago
McKellan should have at least one best supporting actor for one the three film nominations not good enough for what he did. This scene is amazing. Death is always related to Bad and Evil, but nobody truly knows what death is. For some reason people always think what they don't understand is evil. Death is mystery man shouldn't fear.
pmilleroly27 2 years ago 4
he won for the two towers.
016899 2 years ago
nice haha
funnybunches320 2 years ago
Thanks for posting a great scene very moving..
cdahl9 2 years ago 4
damn, if that is how death looks like, i don't mind to go..... awesome scene !!
LukaG20 2 years ago 5
Gandalf wasnt being mean and he never disliked Pippin. FYI
soxnation3419 2 years ago
This is great because Gandalf treated Pippin like crap in the first book, calling him "Fool of a Took!" and by the end, it is just them together about to die willingly.
RepublicCommander 2 years ago 4
what a scene........
nessaminyatur 2 years ago
he should have won an oscar surely for best acting! He is amazing actor!i cant think of any1 who wold have played gandlaf so perfectly!
makis17 2 years ago 2
How did this guy not get nominated for an Oscar?
Jeter4prez09 2 years ago 2
I know. He did for the Fellowship, but McKellan definitely deserved one for Return of the King
comfortcore2 2 years ago
my favorite scene.
siddhaam 2 years ago
i love this scene... its so deep and so true... I hope dead is how he told pip...
derDave2008 2 years ago 3
That was powerful.
AjAj32 2 years ago 2
ian mckellan is an awesome actor in this scene
funnybunches320 2 years ago 8
this is sooooooo frakin deep dude. love this scene. favorite scene from any movie. beautiful
funnybunches320 2 years ago 3
makes me want to watch this movie
i have seen it like 54 times and every time its better
funnybunches320 2 years ago 15
yeah, I think Jackson did a great job putting the books into a film format... hope you read the books too!
rictheis 2 years ago 6
i did they are great too
funnybunches320 2 years ago
i will love to keep this in mind, when god takes me in his loving embrace when i die.
this speech, is a legacy to me, dunno about you guys though...
blackwaffle 2 years ago
what's the song that gets played in this scene ?
i love it. this whole scene is unbelievable.
margotmarie54 2 years ago
it's into the west, beautiful song
DoddiP123 2 years ago 2
beautiful... makes me wonder
aaaslam55 3 years ago 4
NeoSapien, I feel so sorry for you. This is a wonderful interpretation of how J.R.R. Tolkien viewed Heaven. If you don't believe in God, how on Earth does this film make any sense?
YdocReltuc 3 years ago
it's one of my favorite scenes. thank you for uploading. :D
lohzung 3 years ago
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neosapian, fuck you u shit. god is reall motherfucker. burn in hell
BigXManX420 3 years ago
Tolkein was a Christian Author. Let's not forget that. There are parts of the movie where God is demonstrated and there hidden.
ckiservol 3 years ago 2
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no that's just gey evryone knows god isn't real. stop living in a fantasy land
NeoSapian77 3 years ago
Actually I find there's more morality in Tolkein's works than you find in the New or Old Testament texts (there's no reference to killing a child if he/she disobeys their parents, etc...). Also his works haven't been distorted by translators, excised by commentators, or added to by revisionists. All in all a very sound morality without all the dogma.
rictheis 3 years ago 6
@rictheis Tolkien was a Roman Catholic. Most themes and events in LOTR have basis in Biblical teachings.
zgolde 1 year ago
@rictheis Very well said. I agree with you wholly on that.
Masiakasaurus 1 year ago
Tolkien created his own gods and his own heaven which is far more epic, moral and deep than the Christian concepts. Besides, Tolkien lost his faith in Christianity towards the end of his life.
theblackestnight 2 years ago
Tolkein was a devout Catholic Christian who devoted the Lord of the Rings, espically the Sillmarillion, to premoting Christian concepts, with 'Eru' the One referring to God. He kept his faith throughout the first world war. I hope he didn't loose his faith towards the end of his life:). He showed God in all his Glory.
SleepingSun27 2 years ago 4
uhm he was a devout cathlic?
toverkleet 2 years ago
Yes, he was a devout Catholic:)
SleepingSun27 2 years ago
i was being sarcastic :P
toverkleet 2 years ago
Oh sorry, VERY hard to tell over the tinternet, hehe
SleepingSun27 2 years ago
lost his faith?? hahahahahahaha.
juresaiyan 2 years ago
I always tear up at this speech, it's so moving. Great scene.
kfu8yt 3 years ago 9
me too....
rogueshdw 3 years ago 4
Me three.
OliverScroll 3 years ago
Im not as fearful of death anymore thanks to this...movie. Wow. This scene in particular brings me some peace.
bomshizzle 3 years ago 5
you feel better,if you know death is nothing to fear.
I do not fear death,but my grandpa is dead and I hope he's fine.
i believe in gandalf's description of death,because it's the most wonderful I've ever heard.
thanks for posting!
Penthiselea 3 years ago 8
aww i agree with you
i kinda of fear it
but as a warrior you are teached to protect the things you love no matter the cost
if it means sacraficing my life i will be happy to do so
itsthatkidchris 3 years ago 3
did tolkein write that speech??
weakestlink41 3 years ago 4
yes he did
lonelytraveller91 3 years ago
thanks
weakestlink41 3 years ago
Yes, JRRT did write this as well as the speech in my other video post "Journey In The Dark - Gandalf and Frodo" ... although I didn't really recall this dialogue (had to look it up), I do recall that one. It has been many years since I read the trilogy. The music here is also wonderful. Thanks for posting your comment.
Rick
rictheis 3 years ago
alright thanks much
weakestlink41 3 years ago
he did write this but in the 1st book when frodo was sleeping in old tom Bombadil's house... im not joking frodo was baffled by this dream. but in this scene they used the quote quite nicely :'D
CORdeCOR42 3 years ago
No where does it say Frodo was baffled.
Stop talking out of your arse.
deansdoodle 3 years ago
@rictheis it's not exactly a dialogue. Tolkien describes the area frodo sais off to on the grey havens as what gandalf says in this scene.
xJakex77 1 year ago
Tolkien was a genius. Pure genius.
TheTibetanMonk 3 years ago 8
i agree
warmachine50009 3 years ago
as much as death doesn't seem like a bad thing,
life just seems so much better.
and i will continue to live it and fight for it.
crockettjvinson 3 years ago
the grey rain-curtain of this world rolls back...
we see the full truth for the first time upon death
it's everything life isn't
aewester 3 years ago
This is just a guess Markeyssc, but maybe because frodo and bilbo were Ring bearers and how they will live a little long than most has somthing to do with it. Just a thought
soxnation3419 3 years ago
After seeing this in the movie , I don't view death in such a harsh or terrible way as much . Great piece of movie here !!!
RudeRaptor 3 years ago 4
He has made everything beautiful in its time. He has also set eternity in the hearts of men. (Ecclesiastes 3:11)
Jesrael1986M 3 years ago