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  • In a SHTF situation, I would rather trade for commodities than silver or gold. I've lived in similar situations. If the SHTF, the only reason why you would want to barter is because you will find yourself in need of an item. Gold/Silver may continue to be used for barter, but it won't increase in "actual" value for which you can purchase goods after the SHTF. In fact, goods/commodities will demand more Gold/Silver after the SHTF. It's the commodities that go up in price. Just from experience. ;)

  • I keep ammo kinda cheap packs , military surpluses ammo and other stuff , plus alot of batteries . This is what could be used to barter with . If you CEO of a company did not prep then I can trade with him or anybody els .

  • If people are willing to barter they need to be civil if they want long term commerce. A good reputation would be highly valuable. Scavengers get blasted in no time if they highjack a reputable trading post.

    I stockpile nuts and bolts/ nails / screws / asswipe / wire. All for trade. Food I keep but if I have excess after a good crop I can trade that as well. I cannot use silver but I own it as a currency transfer if the need arises that someone wants it. Literature (how too books).

  • we take a risk everytime we wake up anyway lol... you can store tocaco too... years in mason jar.. good barter

  • If you don't havea gun, like myself, to minimize the threat of getting robbed or someone taking everything you have, be very secerative when you barter, just a couple of things I will be getting for bartering are cigars and vodka, I don't smoke cigarettes, I used to, I don't want to get those because I don't want to be tempted but I do smoke cigars so I will be storing those fofr barter along with vodka

  • Yes your right, I store up stuff for barter also... Great idea, the person who is questioning you might not make it out there... Any time you would go to barter take a buddy... Nice Glock 21 I had one but decided to go back to the 9mm because its a Military round and most likely would be readily available... Beretta M9/92F is my choice right now... Good Luck out there...

  • looking through your vids I get a strange feeling that your looking forward to the collapse, you'd probably be disapointed if it never happened although...keep investing in silver netherless its gunan go up lol

  • It is a good idea to store up ammo for ANYTHING besides protecting yourself & your property. Some people are just plain scary, weird, take stuff to much to heart, & emagine after the SHTF how these exact people would be.. You were offering ideas. I wouldn't explain shit to people like that. I would of said turn me off your monitor if you don't want to hear what you have to say. That ends there. But I do realize why in all you explained, you never know who you are interacting with on-line.

  • It is a good idea to store up ammo for ANYTHING besides protecting yourself & your property. Some people are just plain scary, weird, take shit to much to heart, & emagine after the SHTF how these exact people would be.. You were offering ideas. I wouldn't explain shit to people like that. I would of said turn me off your monitor if you don't want to hear what you have to say. That ends there. But I do realize why in all you explained, you never know who you are interacting with on-line.

  • I'm not a subscriber however I do view your videos. On this one I do believe you are correct. Its the old saying, "its good to have it and not need it than not not have it and need it." You can never have enough supplies. of anything.

  • There is nothing wrong with that plan.Although I wont.But my situation is money.I have a family of 5,and I can only stock up on the necessity.If I had the cash,I would stock up for barter and trade items.Think of it as a grocery store.Also I am trying to keep myself with in a weight limit.No sense in having more than I can carry.Sure I can bury,but if I leave an area I am at.There was a reason,and that reason may still be there,so burying would be losing.

  • Yes !...Meds...food...ammo...all for barter...sir

  • I would'nt stock up but having a box or two of common calibers (that you dont own) is'nt bad for all the reasons you mentioned but also last i checked ammo was'nt going down in price any time soon and it's shelf life is measured in decades.

    buy a few boxes now.. if SHTF never comes then 10 years from now you can always unload it and get your money back and then some.

    If nothing else consider it an investment.

  • While I doubt you'll be acquiring a rifle to shoot it, ammo for common "hunting calibers" makes GREAT bartering currency, trade a hunter for some venison for example.

    All common catridges will make great currency and it stores a H of a lot better than most other consumables (chocolate, tobacco, ...)

    If you're on a budget, you should focus on stuff you'll actually be using yourself though.

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  • After the collapse there will be 150 million dead Americans minimum, probably more

    This is the coming depopulation

  • I think bartering is a good idea and it is something everyone needs to do. Although I can't figure out why anyone would buy ammo that they did not have a gun for just to barter with. I have bought a lot of ammo for my guns and I would be willing to barter some of it for other supplies that I need, but if no one wants the ammo that I have I still can use it myself. That being said I do have some ammo that I have no gun for because I have not bought the gun yet but the ammo has on sale.

  • Are you in Alaska or Michigan ???

  • The price of ammo is not going down....hedge against inflation at least. Never enough ammo my brothers and sisters!

  • The last thing you want to do is use your ammo supply as a bartering tool. Why would you want to arm someone else.

  • The last thing you want to do is use your ammo supply as a bartering tool. Why woukld

  • The gentleman has good points, well put

  • the only issue i have with this is that im a gun guy, unfortunetely i do not own any guns... i do however know that different guns may look the same on the insides but they take different ammunition.... ie. 12 guage shotgun and 10 guage shotguns look similar to people who know nothing about guns!!!! i am not trying to yell at you im just adding constructive criticism

  • on your one video on whether our unemployment rates were played with in Canada? yes! we are heading for serious trouble in the economy and being lied to by our government public paid advertisements to lie to us and tell us we are better off than you all...buy seeds for planting a garden instead lots of seeds...lots of seeds and get some chickens or something lol!

  • Maybe this guy was trying to tell you that he has no intention of bartering or sharing with others if a SHTF scenario were to occur.

  • Bartering is the way to go that how they use to live that how the pilgams and indans started bartering

  • @kazo420 that is what argentina is doing now that their government bankrupted their country but unless your gay don't try to barter with Canadians they stole our guns years ago so they wouldn't get shot!

  • Absolutely concur 

  • For "SHTF" preparation / society collapse preparation: anyone thinking of buying / acquiring metal plate to put beneath their windows and mount on the inside of their doors? Would there be a point to it against an AK47 round? if so what kind of metal and what kind of thickness?

  • @gunthaarz Use1/4 in to 1/2 in AR400 or AR500 plate

  • Sounds nice, but what is more likely is that the neighbor just uses the rifle to take your silver. He could make it easy by just gunning you down in your yard, then coming over and tossing your house.

  • I agree with you, but I am only storing my calibers as far as ammo. We might look into booze as an excellent barter item. Might take some s out shtf.

  • I'm planning to buy a 30-06 or .308.  Anyone have an opinion on which one? Thanks

  • @kcaviator1 .308 being it's a widely used round and a NATO round. Effective range out to 800 meters and there are several semiauto weapons platforms available in this caliber

  • I agree. I think there are things higher on the priority to store like food and medicine. I store a lot of ammo for the guns I do have.

  • well said!

  • i dont smoke cigs but i would constantly scoop them up when i see em thats for sure....

  • Ammunition that has been stored at room temperature in a dry place can be expected to last decades. I regularly shoot ammo that's +30 years old with 100% reliablity. Avoid the new "lead free" ammo. It's just too new to know how it will last. Buy factory ammo in common U.S. calibers. Store it with silica gel dessicant in a sealed container. Remember, almost every hunter has a .22 LR or a 12 gauge, a .30-30 or a .30-06. These calibers will be as good as gold if things collapse.

  • i think things like blankets and matches would be great for bartering cos when it gets to winter people will NEED things to keep them warm. Tobacco is aslo a good idea cos people will give a lot for it when it's scarce.

  • how much ammo (rds) should i have for each firearm?  thanx

  • everyone should horde nato 5.56 or 7.76 mm rounds also .308, or 9mm because everyone thinks 9mm is good so we would all be on the same page or just use the ammo to take what you want

  • everyone should horde nato 5.56 or 7.76 mm rounds also .308, or 9mm because everyone thinks 9mm is good so we would all be on the same page

  • Is there a "self-life" for ammunition? Just curious.

  • @takforalt no

  • precious metal are not the way to go. water, food, ammo, medical suplies, that will get you stuff in an emergency situation.

  • Ammo is a possible barter item that limits your possibilities of trade to those individuals that use guns AND do not have large amounts of Ammo stored. That I reckon will be relatively rare, don't you think?. You want to have more exchangable goods or assets, from silver coins to rabbits. You can even get ammo with those, should you need it at some point.

  • dem dizzle...

  • nicely done ,Sir

    i like the idea once u presented it

    makes sense!!!

  • I think you would be a lot better off storing food, water purifiers, medicines, booze, toilet paper, etc. That sort of thing to barter with. I would not want to furnish someone ammo that could be used back against me later. Just my opinion.

  • if your gonna buy ammo for guns your never going to shoot only buy it when its on sale because shitf is never going to happen

  • Why you even worry about this fools, I do no understand. You cannot reach stupid people. Trying so, now that will get you killed.

  • @Anothercoilgun

    Sadly, it will be the "stupid people" whom will be beating at your door when they can no longer afford that $25 a gallon milk.........

  • Fish antibiotics are cheap and work on humans

  • @patriotsundergod

    Interesting......

    Could you be more specific?

  • @ziggy2sound4u

    see your local pet store / aquarium supluy

  • @patriotsundergod

    Thanks.....

  • I like your choice in firearms. Very practical.

  • yes its a good idea

  • Yes! its a great idea to have the ammo. And I think you covered most of the reaasons why. Its Survival of the fittest, its also Survival of the smartest! Those that don't understand will parish........................­.

  • @RugerMini556

    Don't forget to invest in some real ancient form of food storage: livestock.

    You can't eat that ammo......

  • Demcad, what if the collapse wouldn't come? What if this collpase is really a sort of "fantasy" that will never come true? Think about it. The future belongs to those who believe in the beauty of their dreams and aspirations.

  • The ammunition itself could be useful for bartering. Other good things to stock up on could be cigarettes and alcohol, even if you don't plan to use them yourself.

  • The allegations of your detractor are baseless. Barter and prepping to barter are very important.

    Some of the things I store are toilet paper, batteries, canned goods, precious metals and yes, common calibers (including those I do not use).

  • Your logic seems good to me. Really any physical object of value that you have is good for bartering. And you don't need a shtf situation to barter with someone if you see a good trade.

  • good idea if you could by off caliber cheap

  • DEMCAD rocks!!! DEMCAD rules!!! We love DEMCAD!!! DEMCAD 4 President

  • I can't believe you have to explain barter to people. Have they never taken toys to school and traded? Never been to a swap meet? Never gone to yard sales? Have they no friends that they have never swapped cd's, games, movies etc? Mein gott!

  • Everyone should watch two good documentary's "Collapse" and the other is "After Armageddon" excellent watch.

  • great vid there dem but rember with a lot of people out there after the bit poo hits the big fan there are a lot of people trying to hunt and the large herds of deer and lots of small game out there also like squirrel and rabbits will be hunted to almost extinction in some parts by people just trying to survive so yes bartering could be good and having ammo other people need is also good but dont for get to have tangeable skills too to help barter also keep the vids coming

  • Although with that said if you have a gun, you can be a bully, a looter and shoot to kill to acquire what ever food and water you need that people won't barter away. Either way there will be chaos, Just be prepared as demcad says.

  • I'll put it this way it is never a bad thing to have to much ammo. Ammo retains its value better than the paper coupon called The Dollar. Owning ammo is just like owning gold in a SHTF scenario. Having food and clean water perhaps is more important to stock up on. Food and water are directly needed in a survival scenario and those are the things people are least likely to barter away. You can survive without a gun(if you are good) you can't survive without food and water though.

  • You are right on with the ammo issue. I would stock up on common ammo, if it can be acquired cheaply today.

  • everyone should check out this new food storage site i found, eatsandtreats.mysundaceglobal. com not only can u purches some quaility food u can become an affiliate puls u get like 10 free meals and all u do is pay the shipping.

  • nice goat mang!!

  • you can't eat silver and you can't drink gold.

    Food and Water will trump everything in a SHTF senario...

  • @60odeeman You can eat silver and gold, but if you eat silver you might turn blue.

  • @60odeeman Kill an animal and find a stream... Wealth is wealth.

  • @stonergeo33 maby if we were smart down in Canada we would be trying to find a stream and a gun so we could kill that animal of course once it comes to that they will be tracking us with infro red lights or something and kill us all and steal our moose meat lol!

  • definitly if its on sale and you have the money to spare get it. here is a situation you bug out to a friends house he has guns hes a good hunter he ran out of .308 bullets. you go to his house and he is a good friend but know he is thinking he has one more mouth to feed no bullets you can tell him no problem I have some. Get a nine milimeter most police and military use them now might be easier to find those and get some bullets.

  • options are always good.

  • Great idea. Demcad, please get a longer range gun though, you are only good out to 50 feet with what you have. 

  • lol, 1:55 DEMCAD with the big weapon brandishing right in my face. "Here! Take my wallet, DEMCAD!" hahaha

  • @1dewdropz This is a good time for all the smokers out there to quit while they can. It would really suck having to trade your gold, silver, or ammo just for a nicotine habit.

    There you go... if quitting due to lung cancer and things isn't enough, quitting due to having to waste ammo might be.

  • All ideas for this new order or disorder of things are weldome! Thanks DEMCAD.

  • Your barter example is a really good one and seems very obvious. I am amazed some people don't get it.

  • You know what you're talking about, and have a lot of good ideas; perhaps the person is uniformed of the possibilites of what might happen in a collapse scenario.

  • This question is not directly related to this video, but I just thought of it while watching. Maybe you have made a video on tis already, but I just wonder how do you see the collapse panning out? How quickly? Will there be police? What are some things you would do immediately, once the collapse has occurred and chaos ensued. Would you stay home with close family members? "head for the hills"? What would be a good plan of action for someone once the "SHTF"? thanks in advance!

  • Never store .308 and 30-06 or 7mm Rem Mag and .300 WM together. One caliber per box. you can only grab your vest and 1 rifle anyways.

  • Collapse isn't going to happen. Just a few years of misery. So no change there then!

  • There was an old WW2 song out that I think fits our situation, "Praise The Lord, and Pass The Ammunition....Praise The Lord and Pass and Pass The Ammunition.....!!!

  • Reggie you just did 3 videos in a row on preparation and Guns. What is the next video going to be, you hunkered in your basement with a tin foil hat? LOL

  • It was really clear the first time you addressed it.

  • you could barter with nolage, let's say i was a time traver and i met up with you in 6 years time and you said hay dude have you got anthing to trade and i said yep but it's not any think material it's nolage i bet you would not give me any gold for this would you you would most probley LOL in my face, but as you work of in that direchion i came from i was reluctant to give nolage of lions hunting in packs,

  • Barter's fine, but let's also talk about communities learning to "do for themselves" at the local level w/ gov't, trade, lawmaking, justice and farming. I mean, we've been taught how NOT to get along thanks to the "divide & conquer" strategy of everyone from the NWO to competitive advertising (makes women feel insecure if they buy the other guy's makeup). Let's talk about religion/gov't a little, seeing as that's what people needlessly get to fighting/killing over.

  • people are so Ignant nowadays Dem I wouldn't even waste my time.

  • @aranelinya We're coming to your house then. :P I'll bring something of worth (& myself of course) to be able to get some of those things should I run out in a WROL situation.

    I need to come to you or a twin of yours for some training... seriously. My Great Grandmother was native but I never knew her. :(

  • Demcad.....the more options you give yourself the better off you will be. I think you are right about bartering and stock pilling extra anything. Ammo, food, and meds will be very good bartering goods.

  • Your usual good work. Just be careful the ammo has not expired and that it is stored and maintained properly. My loose cannon brother in Ohio gave my second husband a box of shells as a hello gift, and spouse2 was shocked to see later they had dangerously expired. We had to take them to a proper place in NYC for disposal, a tricky point cuz weapons are pretty much illegal there. I am cleaning house, giving away, and preparing. It is heck on Earth. I am tired, man. Love to you, I am off FB

  • Collect .22LR the most popular round...

  • fuck bartering with people at all . If SHTF people will be so desperate there is an increased chance they will kill you for what you have. Get what you need now so you don't have to barter in the future . There is my 2 cents

  • Alot of women will offer sex for goods, protection, and shelter.

  • @sandelpop They already do that.

  • Get more and more "trade goods" all the time Dem. You've read Rawles book "Patriots" and you can see the viability of it all.

    The small things like .22 for small game is a good choice for the amount invested gives you many rounds and thusly many chances at small game.

    BTW Richy Rich... (:P) When are you going to get a .22 anyway?

  • I have started buying ammo for family members firearms, because they have not seen any need to store up any extra.

  • Owning a gun is like having a condom , meaning "I would rather have it and not need it than need it and not have it " and please demcad stop showing your guns to everyone, if know-one knows you cannot be a victim if everyone knows you will be a victim . I do like your videos all the best.

  • @abitdodgie That's a stretch. So many people own guns, they are not all victims.

  • I think its a good idea to have all kinds of things to trade, I wouldnt suggest putting that ammo in your bug out bag or anything that you cant use in that matter. I realy think medical supplies will be the main thing to trade, childrens cold, oragel, aspren.... emagine a flu season in the world with no medicine. Anyone trading food will need armed guards.

  • No the ammo can be used against you.

  • I think its a good idea, but ammunition to weapons I dont would not be my first priorety.

  • I'm afraid they would be taken by martial law,look at the christian militla.I would be afraid people with guns would be on a list.what does everyone thing,before I purchase a gun?I used to have a glok....

  • I think that your advice is sound. People who disagree, are still living with their heads in the sand. As far as other items that would be good to keep, I go for small containers of any type of alcohol, i.e. vodka, gin, whiskey as well as cheap cigarettes, even if you don't smoke, in a SHTF, barter situation, they could mean the difference for you if you need something you don't have or if you want something that someone else needs. Yankee's right, you can never have too much TP or toothpaste

  • Heck Yeah!!!! its a good Idea Demcad.

  • I agree. I don't own a .30-30 but I have ammo for it. It is one of the most wide spread cartridges in the US.

  • @Turkeysubsonic A "friend" definitely has one of those guns and "he" says over and over again how good of a gun it is in foliage.

    He gives that gun a 8 or 9 of 10 for it's viability, ruggedness and all around general purpose.

  • years ago i was told and have since read..."stick a 44 magnum in someones face and they will give you everything they have" you may not agree but someone with a gold coin in their pocket to "barter" wont have it but for a second when someone sticks a big bore handgun in their face....

  • These IDIOTS that don't understand the sound advice you are spending time giving out, refuse to accept reality. These people are also living in FEAR of this reality. They are hoping in the back of their mind that somehow all the guns and ammo are confiscated. Bullets, toothpaste and TP will be worth more than gold and silver if the SHTF. And the only thing that will keep your preps in your hands will be the guns and bullets you have and the skill to use them.

  • seven years ago did you ever think that you would be talking to ramdom people on the internet about silver, bullets and medicine. ;)

  • @nycman247 "The times, they are a-changin'"

  • @nycman247 No, LOL

  • @nycman247 I was thinking the same thing as I was watching this vid. This whole thing has moved so fast that at times I think we are unaware of how much our outlook on life and the things we talk about in day to day life has changed dramatically.

  • Reginald, how long do you think firearms stay legal after SHTF? Chances are that all weapons up to potato knives or even toothpicks will become illegal in an instant. When martial law is in place you don't wanna mess with authority's, because they will be very nervous and trigger happy.

  • @Mikannika

    You're right.. EVERYBODY, DISARM YOURSELVES!! Those who you have armed yourself against will make having those arms illegal.. and you don't want to break the law in a collapse!! Instead, practice silent & unquestioning obedience as well as self deprivation and pain tolerance... those silly preppers will have to face the wrath of... um, ... well, er... not sure who will oppose 50m armed citizens now that I think about it...

    NEW PLAN.. continue on

    Sorry for the sarcasm.. a little

  • @Mikannika You assume that it will only be political or any sort of strife would happen elsewhere only? Should the crack down would come through austere measures alone only backed by international political policy?

    Should one think that their rights would be gone in an instant then the battle is nearly over before it has begun.

  • Feces, when the feces hits the fan. Kudos to Demcad for allowing his heart to lead his head in a rational and seemingly lawful exploration of Risk Management. If one finds himself dealing with negotiations under duress looking into this mans eyes will be telling. The fool accuser or shill perhaps, will behave like the first little pig when his strawmans house burns down and there is nothing for him to eat. Fear and avoid the fool! Negotiate with Reg! Breed and Eat the rabbits

    Caveat Emptor

  • You could buy the empty rifle with a silver coin. Fill it full of bullets and get your silver coin back by robbing the guy. :P

  • the only bartering you will need is in the form of a 12 gueage or an AR-15 if youre lucky ...

  • God is going to have a real life torture event for Americans. Karma is a bitch. Imagine a world wherein, overeating, mentally unstable, racist, humanly undeveloped Americans are running around with guns trying to find food. That is the worst scenario in the history of life on this planet. Unless you have the favor of The Lord, it sucks for you to have even been born....

  • You watched too many mad max movies. LMAO

  • I think if the gov't collapsed and I had a guns and ammo, I wouldn't be bartering. I'll be imposing my will on those without the same. I just think people are only civil because they have options. When the options dry up... well you get the point.

  • Whoever that "person" was has obviously not read much of history. The entire civilization of mankind has reverted to bartering in the absence of government issued currency at one point or the other. Keeping that in mind, and looking at the falling US dollar, it would be dangerous NOT to have any sort of bartering items. I would almost argue that ammo would be more valuable than silver and gold at first. Silver/Gold doesn't feed you, clothe you, provide shelter or warmth, or PROTECTION. DEMCAD i

  • EVERYONE will go down at one point or another... A Person can only hide and eat what they have prepared for for so long.... Life is like a game my friends... But in this game.. NONE of us have continues... It comes down to luck.... It doesn't matter how much food or weapons you have stored away.. If you get taken out in the first 5 minutes of the major conflict then.... YOU LOSE, we will all.....LOSE... eventually in this game.

  • 308 will be most available since nato uses it all other nato calibers as well. human nature is easy to predict but hard to plan for-- you never know what people will want so, plan for basics that everyone needs. Few will make it for very long so, even skill sets will be trade goods as well as assets to protect. For example, what would an otherwise useless civil/electrical engineer be worth to a surviving community?? Would you expend lives and assets to have power and water again after yrs w/o?

  • I don't own a .40 caliber or a 9mm, however I am sure glad that I have ammunition for these weapons.

  • This video is good food for thought. I only spend money purchasing ammunition that fit in guns that I either own, or will own in the very near future. Somthing that I have been doing for a year though is collecting shell casings every time that I go shooting. Many shooters leave thier brass behind when shooting at makeshift ranges. I have collected several thousand shell casings in 5.56, .308, .40, .45, and 9mm. Now I will be able to reload 1000 rounds for about $185 in any caliber.

  • @MYKHRONICLES Fantastic and GREAT foresight there! Now if everyone had a similar mantra in some of their prepps, we'd all be the better for it.

    A "friend of mine" is trying to get either a glock .40/9mm (with swap out barrel for the different caliber) or a Springfield XD that does the same. By in which making the gun far more applicable and a God send that keeps on ticking when the "road gets rough."

    I concur of course. :P

  • Or maybe you have the ammo he needs to hunt with and you work a deal to get a portion of food for the ammo you supply. barter is the simplest thing to grasp.

  • Cigarettes. Ever see a smoker run out? Alcohol, water

  • @GaryMule

    i used to think that, but if that happens and a smoker runs out and he cant buy more, he gets gittery for a few days, and bums a few offother people, and then is gittery for a few more days.... then he no longer has an addiction to cigs. so when a collapse happens everyone will run to the stores buy them all up, use them all up. and 2 weeks later no one in the world will have a cig adiction anymore,and u will be stuck with your stash right before anyone even thinks of bartering lol

  • @jayrush01 Possibly... Yet others will work for cigs, barter less needful things for cigs or extras that THEY have to barter for cigs and other amenities.

    People crave their creature comforts. They remind them of better times if nothing else. It allows for a facade of normalcy.

    I'm just glad that I don't smoke. I have enough habits as it is. Soda would have to go. :(.. TV & gadget withdrawal also in a worse case.

  • Your neighbour might take your silver & ammo using a gun with ammo he has and then take silver to Canada to get the drugs.

    Reginald, what would you do if you had neighbours coming to your house and asking for any food you have? And remember many of these neighbours might have guns & might be willing to try to enter your home to get whatever food you've got, that they think you have, and might be willing to shoot you for it - saying to you I have a baby and a wife and a child, I need your food!

  • Im going with Cigarettes. Easy to break down into small denominations for those little trades.

  • Knowledge is a good bartering item. A lot of people won't know what to do when things get really bad! Teaching someone how to do something that will help them survive could give you the upper hand! Knowledge is free and don't weigh anything! Check out my channel for survival vids, that may come in handy. Good luck, and God Bless!!

  • Stock up on wine and or beer people will want that kind of stuff as well !

  • When the POO hits the fan most peoples friends and family will not be around because most peoples friends and family memebers do not listen and are asleep there for will not live long in a WROL situation ! Just a thought so have game plans teach your oldest how to use a weapon to cover your ass when you are forced to barter with stranger on something you really are in need of !

  • @MrMADMOFO True enough but you look past the dying off apparently. In which all of these friends & family would be at your door at some point.

    Should you refuse to share you would have to do this with a closed door policy.. a ton of lies or.. outright plain, simple refusal. All of which would be VERY difficult to do.

    Neither can I afford to supply all & everyone. All I can say is that they need to prepare themselves.

    Be the warnings from me or other sources. I'll do my part either way.

  • I am thinking that any food items would be good to barter, I was also thinking of wine or any sparkling non-alcoholic beverages as possible gifts.

  • @chiyerano Nice idea but.. if you have the storage to give out gifts... that's leads to other obvious conclusions.

    Gifts? Not so much... bartering... that's the way to go here I think.

  • @liabatud67 Well, he mentioned gifts in the video, and it beats having NOTHING to give as gifts. I was under the impression that these things could be used as gifts AND barter.

  • @chiyerano I guess what I'm saying is that you have to be aware and cautious of who you "give the gifts too" so that you are not targeted as "someone who has enough to give" out.

  • @liabatud67 The people I would "give the gifts too" would be close relatives that I trust who I haven't seen in a long time. If you read the info box at the bottom of the video, you will see why I mentioned 'gifts' in the first place.

  • @liabatud67 I wasn't talking about just giving out things to any Tom, Dick, Harry, or Mary who comes along.

  • @chiyerano That makes all the difference in the world to be sure.  The "neighborhood Santa" in the worse scenario would be at great risk I think.

  • @liabatud67 Look, he mentioned something about gifts. If you don't like the idea of giving gifts, fine. I personally don't care about the matter as I was just answering a question posed in the video box.

  • @chiyerano I was supporting your decision now that I know your plan. It does make all the difference to me. I would give gifts too but even that would bring risk to you and your loved ones because you can't control intel after the information leaves your lips.

    Others would likely only tell people they trust but... somewhere along the line there would be the unscrupulous that hears of your stores.

    IJS, take care and be as careful as you can.

  • @liabatud67 :)

  • Barter products may save your life when your home gets over run.  BELIEVE ME IT WILL. Every person or contact of is a dangerous event. Everyone competes for existence.....for food....water....ammo.... YOU AND I ARE A THREAT TO EVERYONE ELSE. Why, because we are consumers of resources. If I see you in my area I will assume a defensive position. I will automatically feel resource threatened. Hoes cannot be defended becase they are fixed position in site of gangs and looters ZOMBIES

  • Rice and beans are a good bartering item. It lasts a long time, and people WILL need food! It is very cheap to stock up on right now. You could possibly stock up on bullion cubes to go with it. Anyone who can't grasp the concept of trading is a dumb ass, and will probably die very quickly because they have run out of supplies!

  • Well I agree with you that it makes sense, assuming you have the extra money to do it, to stock up on common caliber ammo. Especially if you find it on sale.

    Good barter items: Salt, sugar, vinegar - these are all food preservation items that people will be looking for. And 3T sugar+1tsp salt+1qt H20 makes a life-saving rehydration fluid, so it has a medical application as well. Bug repellent may also become scarce, so will be important.

  • I have ammo for all the popular rifles and handguns. I only own (Firearms) 9's, 45's, 5.56 etc.., I want to have what others may need and they may have what I need. That's the best reason to have many calibers on hand. LIquor, condoms, medicine, bullets!!

  • @DEMCAD Sorry but you will be rudely awaken, all your planning will prove to be a fruitless effort. The system to be implemented in the NWO will not allow for trade of any kind, unless you are identified with the system. Go ahead mock and laugh, you will someday only wish that you were on the right side of an angry God.

  • Looks like your losing weight Demcad, keep it up.

  • I don't think info you gave was bad. actually, i thought about bartering myself and the info you gave was quite helpful. there will always be those who see positive things in a negative light. don't give it any energy. you were right on.

  • alcohol would be a good bartering item

  • lots of salt and pepper. People are going to need SALT.Its my barter item. I have several cases vaccum sealed for this purpose. Something else very help ful i learned from a relative is to make tea from red pines. It will prevent scurvy.

  • @demondough Amen ....salt would be needed.

  • Aw..we all have bartered when we were kids. Remember, "I will trade you my baseball card, if you will give me your Captain Marvel comic book"! We all have bartered...all it is, is trading!

  • or u can rob him and do his daughter. wait , shes sick.

    then bartering is cool.

    lol.