why is the Left-TR Bucket deployed throughout this entire Taxi Phase?
thought you were supposed to stow those, decelerating <60kias or so,
and.....that's that! what's the deal? i feel it safe to say that surely, the engines wouldn't have been high-reverse thrust status while these buckets were still "unlocked" and OUT, but......still wondering WHY?
@drumdude46 the left TR is deployed durring taxi to help the aircraft slow down without applying the carbon (sticky) wheel breaks. There is no minimum speed to deploy the left TR, just that the thrust needs to be at idle at 65KTSIAS and just the bucket is deployed (thrust isn't applied). It is common practice for X pilots to use the LEFT TR to help control taxi speed, as there is an air vent on the right side of the X keeping the RIGHT TR from practicle use due to exhaust fumes.
@mhkpilot hey thanks mhkpilot. yeah, was wondering. also, isn't there a "High" and "Low" ground idle switch on the Pedastal, just below levers, in the X ? was thinking the LOW setting is something to control engine Ground Idle, so as not to have the aircraft "Lunging" forward simply from residual Exhaust or even light Thrust eminating from Jetpipe, while they're running? as for TR's, i thought that once you Pulled the Lever's UP for those, Reverse Thrust is applied automatically. No?
@drumdude46 No. You pull up on the levers till they click, that's unlock, pull them a little more and they deploy, then pull them a little more and the lever controls the amount of throttle applied. Yes there is a "hi"-"low" idle switch, but the high idle is just an aide to get the aircraft moving from a stop without "applying" power, or if you're taxiing up a slight grade or hill it helps out there as well.
why is the Left-TR Bucket deployed throughout this entire Taxi Phase?
thought you were supposed to stow those, decelerating <60kias or so,
and.....that's that! what's the deal? i feel it safe to say that surely, the engines wouldn't have been high-reverse thrust status while these buckets were still "unlocked" and OUT, but......still wondering WHY?
The buckets just redirect the thrust. The engines don't actually go into "reverse." I would imagine that the buckets can be operated independently on any plane, due to the possibility of only wanting to use one bucket/thrust reverser (like if you're landing with an engine fire,) but that's just an assumption.
Ah. Good observation. However, there is no limitation on the Citation X that states that the reversers have to be stowed below 60KIAS. The only limitation for the TR's on the ground that relates to speed is that they have to be at the idle detent on the landing rollout by 65KIAS (70KIAS for single engine ops). X pilots commonly use the left TR to help control taxi speed and help keep the breaks from overheating. The buckets are deployed and the power is at idle.
Nice Video.
acesofspaces100 7 months ago
Yes, the aircraft is an XOJet aircraft. Don't believe the hype. They suck.
mhkpilot 1 year ago
The left TR is deployed during taxi because it helps to slow the taxi speed at idle trust with out having to ride the breaks.
maxspeed810 1 year ago 4
I don't understand who it is but nice plane
getlow1985 1 year ago 3
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why is the Left-TR Bucket deployed throughout this entire Taxi Phase?
thought you were supposed to stow those, decelerating <60kias or so,
and.....that's that! what's the deal? i feel it safe to say that surely, the engines wouldn't have been high-reverse thrust status while these buckets were still "unlocked" and OUT, but......still wondering WHY?
drumdude46 1 year ago
@drumdude46 the left TR is deployed durring taxi to help the aircraft slow down without applying the carbon (sticky) wheel breaks. There is no minimum speed to deploy the left TR, just that the thrust needs to be at idle at 65KTSIAS and just the bucket is deployed (thrust isn't applied). It is common practice for X pilots to use the LEFT TR to help control taxi speed, as there is an air vent on the right side of the X keeping the RIGHT TR from practicle use due to exhaust fumes.
mhkpilot 1 year ago
@mhkpilot hey thanks mhkpilot. yeah, was wondering. also, isn't there a "High" and "Low" ground idle switch on the Pedastal, just below levers, in the X ? was thinking the LOW setting is something to control engine Ground Idle, so as not to have the aircraft "Lunging" forward simply from residual Exhaust or even light Thrust eminating from Jetpipe, while they're running? as for TR's, i thought that once you Pulled the Lever's UP for those, Reverse Thrust is applied automatically. No?
drumdude46 1 year ago
@drumdude46 No. You pull up on the levers till they click, that's unlock, pull them a little more and they deploy, then pull them a little more and the lever controls the amount of throttle applied. Yes there is a "hi"-"low" idle switch, but the high idle is just an aide to get the aircraft moving from a stop without "applying" power, or if you're taxiing up a slight grade or hill it helps out there as well.
mhkpilot 1 year ago
why is the Left-TR Bucket deployed throughout this entire Taxi Phase?
thought you were supposed to stow those, decelerating <60kias or so,
and.....that's that! what's the deal? i feel it safe to say that surely, the engines wouldn't have been high-reverse thrust status while these buckets were still "unlocked" and OUT, but......still wondering WHY?
drumdude46 1 year ago
@drumdude46
bearpilot17 1 year ago
who was winning that particular nascar race? and where was it at? i hate tony stewart....im a Jeff gordon fan!!!! wooo #24
w29bum 2 years ago
This is a really nice Video here. Good job!
cessnawings67 2 years ago
This aircraft is from Xojet? I live in Ciudad Victoria, México. Octubre 5, 2006 N755PT was here.
HRHBeerBrother 2 years ago
Cool, you can hear the Winston Cup goings-on in the background.
(I know they changed the name from WC, but I don't care.)
TheSaturnV 2 years ago
really? I did not know pilots could operate the buckets independant ly without throwing the throttles in reverse.
hunterhall4 2 years ago
The buckets just redirect the thrust. The engines don't actually go into "reverse." I would imagine that the buckets can be operated independently on any plane, due to the possibility of only wanting to use one bucket/thrust reverser (like if you're landing with an engine fire,) but that's just an assumption.
mhkpilot 2 years ago
Correct
citationxpilot67 2 years ago
yeah the thrust reverser needs to be looked at.....the pilot should not have been throwing the reverser under 60 KIAS. Beautiful aircraft though
hunterhall4 2 years ago
What?
mhkpilot 2 years ago
Ah. Good observation. However, there is no limitation on the Citation X that states that the reversers have to be stowed below 60KIAS. The only limitation for the TR's on the ground that relates to speed is that they have to be at the idle detent on the landing rollout by 65KIAS (70KIAS for single engine ops). X pilots commonly use the left TR to help control taxi speed and help keep the breaks from overheating. The buckets are deployed and the power is at idle.
mhkpilot 2 years ago
This was sweet. And this was shot where I work (@ Atlantic).
molove99 3 years ago
Nice! I work for Flight Options over at Jet.
Xxsrt4xX 3 years ago
Nice. Where you with them when they were based at Atlantic? I see you know the MWT boys :)
molove99 3 years ago
Now I know what to get Dad for his birthday: a tri-pod. I think I got motion sickness!
mhkpilot 3 years ago