Cuffed, Jammed, exercising 4th amendment right WHILE NOT ARRESTED

[333666666]

Clueless and self-absorbed video, uninformed "opinion" versus any concrete knowledge of law. You can indeed be detained without arrest, including search and restraint. even without a warrant, and even including use of deadly force. Yes, it's perfectly true! The ONLY right you have is to be brought before a magistrate without delay to force the detaining (or arresting) officers (or citizens) to justify their treatment of you. That is the law, and predates even the United States Constitution.

[ls1tome36]

@guitarbridgecleaner never get your time back

[mia0899cs]

@guitarbridgecleaner If I got pulled over, I would just provide my license, insurance and registration. I don't think it's a good idea to argue with cops.

[mia0899cs]

@guitarbridgecleaner From what I understand in this case Bundangbear was going to a Phish concert and this cop stopped him because many who do tend to smoke pot. I think the cop said he was pulled over because he saw thick smoke coiming out of the car window or he smelled it. I don't know if anything comes up under his license ID and tag check. I know many small towns who will pull over anyone who is driving past 12 a.m. hoping they are coming back from a bar. It's a big money scheme.

[BikerBry]

The difference is in being "detained" or "arrested". Probable cause needs to be established. A Cop using a "hunch" is not probable cause. If you are detained, the police do NOT have the right to take you from the scene OR place you in their squad car. At that point you are under arrest. (arrest... not allowed to proceed). I sure hope he wins this thing, the 4th amendment needs some good love and people need to see that the Constitution actually DOES indeed work for the people.

[mia0899cs]

@BikerBry I heard he won. I don't know why it was overturned, but I hope it was because of the Constitution.

[BikerBry]

@mia0899cs Oh, the Cops CAN handcuff you when you are being detained, They just aren't allowed to take you from the scene or force you into their squad unless you are under arrest. If you do it willingly, that is another story. Never fight about it with a Cop. Nothing good can come of it.

[mia0899cs]

@BikerBry It's frightening actually because the cops have the power over us and we are vulnerable at those times.

[BikerBry]

@mia0899cs I agree, most of my dealings with the police have not been pleasant at all. I used to look up to them, now I fear them as probably most people do. That is sad.

[mia0899cs]

@BikerBry It's sad as I fear many of them too. I grew up in a small town with cops that were crooked and nearby other small towns where they have a reputation for doing horrible things to people.

[TheSportCompact]

@BikerBry The 4th Amendment clearly states you can not be detained period without being charged with a crime.

[santaslayer21]

1:01 they found weed in his car. He was hiding something

[mia0899cs]

@santaslayer21 Yes, I believe that was the outcome from what I read. However, he did win the case and the cop lost.

[BikerBry]

@santaslayer21 I don't care if he was hiding a dead body (legally speaking), the law is the law and needs to be observed BY THE POLICE! We ALL have a right to our privacy and the police feel they can walk all over it in this day and age. That is NOT OK!!!

[mckerob]

there was no arrest!!! he was detained while a search was being conducted. This is for the safety of the officers and the person being detained. Jesus are you people really this dense?!?!?!?

[mia0899cs]

@mckerob I know there wasn't an arrest and that's why the video is titled"...WHILE NOT ARRESTED." How is it legal to detain someone who isn't arrested? He posed no threat whatsoever and cooperated with the officer. He had the right to refuse his car being searched. He won the case so the officer was wrong. These cops are just abusing their power.

[wizeguy681]

Hey your kinda cute!!

[WolfEagle1961]

I suggest people Google the name "Steve Rievley". He is a small town cop that ended up in federal court. The interesting thing is the person that sued him represented himself and actually prevailed. The judge blundered the jury instructions and now this Rievley policeman is expected to face perjury charges and the cops attorney will have to answer to his subornation of perjury. There is much that can be learned as this whole lawsuit has been posted and talked about all over the Internet.

[mia0899cs]

@WolfEagle1961 Very interesting!

[ThisIsTheRealSkinny]

@WolfEagle1961 There's a big difference between the two cases presented, however. The Steve Rievley case is clearly a violation of Constitutional rights. There was a forced entry into a home without a warrant. which is strictly prohibited. Bundangbear's case involved a search of a vehicle with probable cause, which has generally been allowed.

[circusboy90210]

arrested means stopping your phycial movement without your consent. so he was arrested. this is "false" arrest.

[mia0899cs]

@circusboy90210 I agree with you! This was a "false" arrest and this cop had no reason to detain someone who wasn't under arrest.

[nosupecualponerme]

@circusboy90210 r u stupid how u will arrest a death person?according w u definition(arrested means stopping u facial movement? i wrote it that way dommy u put phycial movement) if a person dont have physical movements according with the surgeon general he will be death no arrested ., moron., and false means copy cat of the original (he wasnt arrested original) n to arrest a person all u need to do is put him on cuffs,hell i arrest a nigga my self just with an arm lock untill the pigs show up

[circusboy90210]

@nosupecualponerme don't talk about stupid you don't even know how to spell basic words. when you can get above a third grade spelling level ,not to mention your grammar, then come back talking about legal matters. If a cop says more than hello how are you doing ? this is false arrest.

[ThisIsTheRealSkinny]

@circusboy90210 Police are allowed to temporarily detain an individual when there's suspicion of a crime. This includes ordering the individual out of the car. While I agree the hand cuffing may have been a bit unnecessary, I'm assuming this would be allowed for the safety of the officer involved, especially when he's alone. You don't want the suspect going for a weapon or making a run for it right as the officer is about to discover the heroine stash hiding under the seat.

[aikido10]

In point and case he was hiding the fact that he had marijuana in his vehicle he is a criminal who broke the law and is now upset he got caught

[crispymidget]

@aikido10 actually they can't get him for that. If he showed this video in court he'd have it all dismissed. They did not have probable cause to search. End of story.

[acquiescere9]

/watch?v=Me1_F9BDC7o&feature=p­layer_embedded

[BearKissedMyAss]

Here's some real screen names for bundangbear BooHooHooBear BarelyHuman JabbaTheButt BunBuggeringBozo WeeWillieWeedy ChutneyFerretCub PatrolsmenBitch PolicesmanBall etc There's a lot more. But you're too stupid to understand. Been to law school? Yeah. Right. Maybe as a janitor or a test subject. All in all, you look really stupid on the video. A pathetic excuse of a lardass.

[BakersBoyz]

this was a detainment ... mot an arrest ... you can file a lawsuit in federal court if you are not happy ...

[kwikrnu]

@BakersBoyz

A detainment is an arrest. It may not be a formal arrest, but it is an arrest none the less.

[mia0899cs]

@kwikrnu I totally agree. There was no reason to detain Bundangbear because he wasn't arrested. It's unconstitutional and I'm glad that he videotaped this. Some of these cops think they can get away with anything.

[crispymidget]

@BearKissedMyAss I'm a graduate of the Cato institute and it seems you're so engulfed in the ideals of socialism that you feel the constitution is something only the badge wearing idiots and government deities can understand. That completely undermines the republic that the founders and the constitution guarantees. Just because you and some of these cops may be ignorant doesn't make it legal. Perhaps your name should be BoredLoserBitch or maybe FuckableGovSheepDog

[JonStewartFan1]

-FACTS Something you ignore --

1) They do not need a search warrant when they get a positive hit with a K9.

2) You were detained for your safety and the officer's (legal)

3) You edited out the sections of the video where the officer told you that it's ok to film it

4) You're just pissed because you got caught with dope in the car. Omitted that little fact, didn't you

5) Blubberass got caught

6) He needs a bath, BAD

7) If he wasn't so damned fat, he wouldn't have been cramped.

LOL

[bobboberan]

everyone should have the right to bear arms to protect themselves especially a cop would not disagree with that , the problem is whenever have people been been able to claim self defense when a cop commited a crime aganst that person and was shot to death .

[onebigdog411]

You go girl.

[mia0899cs]

Thanks!

[angel607]

i watched the video of Bundangbear and what the cop did was horrible. i wonder if there is a way to show the video and have the cop lose their job. medicine is important and you can't deny someone it. the cop abused his power and does not deserve to be a police officer. i am glad Bundangbear filmed this because maybe he can use this as evidence.

[JonStewartFan1]

I know the officer and there's a lot more to the story then you think.. Note the video is editted in several places.

[RighttoTruth1]

A Merry Christmas out to everyone and

asking once again for bundangbear to

do the right thing and post the

original uneditted video. This totally

misrepresents what happened.

I think thats only fair and allows you to

make the decision. He continues to delete

my posts asking for this so there must

be something to hide.

[bigblockmustang]

Lol Fuck'in Rodney King..

Rodney King

Rodney King

Mia ya gonna rescue this guy?

[mia0899cs]

Rodney King is no comparison lol! Rodney King was impaired, fled the cops(he got caught, do you think he would have got away with a Mustang?)

resisted arrest when they told him to lay down. Bundangbear is no Rodney King.

[Leaxnicole]

Wow. this is wrong. This is the first time that heard about this. wow. crazy some (and it's not all of them) but some cops are complest assholes !

[mia0899cs]

Yes, I agree with you that some cops are assholes. I lived in a small town and these cops were only there to harass the community. We called them the Town Clowns. Whenever something serious happened they called in the SWAT team.

[2242bzo]

Cindy. The dirty cops today use "detainment" as an excuse to cuff a citizen. I don't like it either, and I do speak out about dirty cops in my local newspaper, at great risk to myself. But I don't give a shit. I'd rather be murdered by them than to bend over for them. You look great, as usual. And I do not wish to be murdered, by the way. Let me ask you.......can I come over and help make your bed? Bye, lovely.

[mia0899cs]

Where were you yesterday? I cleaned my room and got rid of things I don't need. You know the clutter. Clothes that will never be worn, polished the hardwood floor, and made the bed lol! I like my bed made or it drives me nuts! It's the Feng Shei thing. Anyway, I think you are doing a great job! I lived in a small town and the cops just harassed anyone. There were dirty cops too and that's why some bars got away with cocaine.

[darksidedirk1]

cindy has spoken great to see you again

dirk

[mia0899cs]

Hey, great to see you too! I loved the video you made for me! It's playing automatically on my channel page and I think I'll keep it up for awhile. Maybe, always! I love it!!!! Hey, can I move to Amsterdam?

[darksidedirk1]

i you lived in holland you where not in amsterdam but in eindhoven why? because i live there lol

[tomken8dy]

NEVER give up your Constitutional rights.

Even if you have nothing to hide, never consent

to a search without a warrant or arrest.

TIE UP THEIR RESOURCES, make them

waste their time.

We will either gain back our rights or they'll suspend the Constitution.

[mia0899cs]

You are absolutely right Tom! We need to gain back our rights. I remember when CPS made me get an electrician before James could come back because of a blown hallway light. I had to sign over his Dr. records. I told them that I feel it is against his HIPPA rights. They said they thought I was hiding something. I was a Hospice RN and he went to Daycare at the YMCA. I shouldn't have handed them over unless they had a court order. CPS is another one who can't search your house without a permit

[tomken8dy]

mia0899cs

Prophetic quotes from our Founding Fathers:

"When the government fears the people, there is liberty When the people fear the government, there is tyranny."

"The natural progress of things is for liberty to yield and government to gain ground "

- Thomas Jefferson (17431826)

THIS is perhaps the most salient quote:

"It is a universal truth that the loss of liberty at home is to be charged to the provisions against danger, real or pretended, from abroad"

- James Madison (17511836)

[cknight63]

Over time I've lost respect for police after getting pulled over, detained (not arrested) for not having an ID when I was 18 y.o. (I was walking to work), cops looking in my car at least twice a year with flashlights while it was parked at the rec. center, etc. Being a policeman used to be an honorable job. Now they're just gun-toting, rights-infringing tax collectors.

[mia0899cs]

That's horrible! I remember when my car was hit while it was parked on the street. My parents were called. They wanted to search my car, and not the person who hit me. Unbelievable! My mom said, "Absolutely not!" The woman totaled my car. I was in my early 20's and she was middle aged. I wasn't even there, but my parents didn't trust cops because they can plant drugs in your car. My dad was always one step ahead of them.

[Sierra0714]

@cknight63 You'd be suprised how many idiots leave guns and drugs laying around in plain view in the vehicle. It's not a violation of anything, people who break into cars look into them before breaking the window. So if you have nothing in the car what are you getting so pissed off at them looking through the window not searching it for? They can also take the trash that you put at the curb and search that. I say go ahead and look through the window your wasting your time but oh well.

[Sierra0714]

@cknight63 And by the way, police were more corrupt back when it was "honorable." If u think they're violating rights now, I guess u've never heard about someone getting beat with a baton for disrespecting a cop back then. There's a lot better oversight now then there ever was. Look at how many were corrupt in NY, Chicago, Las Vegas, or backwoods US, "I can give u a $100 speeding ticket or you can pay me $50 and I dont give you one." When you have no boss right there, its easy to do what u want.

[Katfellow]

Bear's a good guy.

It's too bad that happened to him.

[mia0899cs]

Yes, he is a good guy! That cop reminded me of that racist cop who blew the O.J. Simpson trial. He didn't have his hat on either. I know in NJ if they don't wear their hats which are part of their full attire, anything can be thrown out of court and they get in trouble.

[CrudeLieDetector4]

great vid i support the bear

[mia0899cs]

Thanks! I support the bear too!  All the way!!!!

[bundangbear]

Wow Cindy, great vid, really well thought out, yes, they are putting me in a bullied position that one would certainly just forgo one's 4th Amendment Rights, but I was not that person on that day!

[mia0899cs]

They did bully you and you are right many people would forgo their 4th Amendment Rights. If I get stopped, I hope that I can be as strong as you. It's a frightening position to be in. Shouldn't he have had his hat on btw? They have to in NJ or they lose the case and I think they get in a lot of trouble if not suspended. He reminded me of Mark Furhman. When I was in my 20's my car got hit on the st. and they called my parents and they asked to search my car. My mom said, "No!" Why mine?

[MrHollick]

My thoughts on this matter are dont do the crime if you cant do the time

[mia0899cs]

I agree in most circumstances, however, Bundangbear wasn't arrested and you can even hear the police officer saying this.

[BigJoeyfromBoston]

It` stupid, but pigs do it all the time!

[mia0899cs]

I know they do it all the time. I don't even know what's amended anymore. When I was stopped by NJ State Police many years ago for not having my turn signal on when changing lanes, the cop checked my car too. I wasn't impaired or anything, but I guess they feel it's their right. Well, he checked my car and than I was permitted to go. Probably, pissed him off.