ah come on man... tune the antennas the way there suppost to be and intall each antenna on a car all in the same spot and test them one after another. the wilson is the only antenna u cant compare in cuz its a mag mount. unless u can mount it in the same spot to. thumbs down on your test man..those antennas werent designed to work that way, so its not a real word comparision.
I would test the Wilson 1000 from the same spot that the other antennas were tested. I think the table acts like a ground plane so the antennas have better gain.
Mounting location will have more to do with it than anything. Your ground plane for the wilson 1000 is rectangular so it is receiving best from the ends of the rectangle.Mont the mp1 in the same place as the wilson and I bet the wilson will win.
@funnyman1972 I am sorry, you are wrong in one respect: The Wilson will not win, period. For one, it uses a capacitive coupling to ground, which is very inefficient -- ground quality is paramount to any antennas performance. For another, even though the other antennas are brought to resonance by a helical coil, they still will perform like an antenna of their perspective height; 3/4 wave of wire in a 7ft package is still a 7ft antenna.
@funnyman1972 Oh, I also forgot to mention something else: The Wilson's coil is small diameter and mounted in plastic, which will make the Q go to shit, so this is going to equate to heat and losses.
73, John, NV6R an Extra class HAM and antenna designer with 40+ countries on 75m from the mobile; well over 200 on 20m-10m.
Antennas I think are difficult to compare. It would have been better if all antennas were mounted the same way. The Wilson 1000 was mounted on a different ground plane than the other antennas so I would take its results with a grain of salt.
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Thanks Jeff. I've included this video in my collection I will be using when I report you to Industry Canada. The "freeband" as you call it is not for you or anyone else to use. Without an amateur license, you're limited to a "type accepted" citizen band radio operating only up to 27.405 mhz. Why are you operating on 27.425 mhz and why do you use an S9 and an RCI 2970? Neither of these radios are allowed for use on 27 mhz. I'm close to your apartment,so I'll continue to record your transmissions
@jbrcar You must be a real moron. I am listening to a ham repeater... no transmitting is done in order to calculate the gain of the antennas. You really should open an ARRL book and figure out what you are talking about before trolling peoples Youtube and spreading poison. There is no law against monitoring beacons nor are the freebands enforced anymore and for more hater food, the S9 is sold to a non licenced operator in Spain!
@teflondon91 Uh buddy....you dont need to be licensed to listen, but as soon as you cue up, you need to be licensed and have a call sign. Now i am not saying your cueing up the radio, I wouldn't know. But the second you do, its illegal. And the 10meter airwaves are still monitored. They are all monitored. Good luck and enojy the S9.
@jbrcar well, in the video he is listening to a local repeater, not transmitting on it. the radio is set in the 28mhz 10 meter band in this video, not 11mtr/CB". The second he cues up that radio in the 10meter bands he is illegal. It is NOT illegal for him to own them and listen to them, but, if he talks on them.it is. Now in Canada, I am not to sure if it is illegal to run an export radio/10meter that has been converted to CB. I do not know. But this video, shows no illegal activity
@strumem90 Don't mind him, his pocket protector is probably getting in the way. Plus, I think that he became a HAM because CBers kept putting his head up his ass... oh, wait, he must have forgot to remove it! I am a HAM and I feel like reinserting it whenever he decides to remove it.
@jbrcar you're a tool. get a life hammy. why do you hams feel the need to ATTEMPT to be superior? 99% of you tower raising buttwads can't even work on your own equipment. go ahead report him,it'll make you feel like you've done a good deed and then i'll send him my old "little" heater just to fuck with you for the rest of your pathetic "life" . galaxy400 runnin up in ya. and if that didn't work i'll run my lil 3kw s-10 north and make your whole territory cringe. go die.
You need to place each antenna in the same place otherwise you are comparing apples to oranges. Each has a gain pattern which is effected by the ground plane and surrounding conductors and boundary conditions. One antennae may be in a "HOT" spot and the other not. RF wave form standing waves and have nodes and anti nodes.
@Revelation6v8 Yes, and something else to factor is the positioning of the antenna on whatever ground plane it is working against. The position of the antenna on that table will make it somewhat directional in the plane of the table. As an experiment, you could try rotating the table while monitoring a fixed and stable signal. A constant carrier, from a signal generator or simple low power oscillator, would be perfect.
@teflondon91 I would love to see how a Predator 10k compares to these antennas. I've been running the 9" Bad To The Bone version for over 10 years and I think its even better than the dual 102"s that I ran before that. Something else thats nice about the Predators is that if you brake it you dont got to buy a new antenna. You just order the broken part. You can completely rebuild them from the ground up.. kinda cool
@doomloop1977 so you would get a firestick again? Im new to cb radios. I like the look of the firestick, but dont know the difference in those and whips.
@spencer4real I think you answered your own question, LoL! I used a 10 meter amateur radio beacon that is around 40km from me. It is a stationary beacon used to measure DX propagation. Beacons are transmitters that allow ham radio operators and shortwave radio enthusiasts to monitor propagation conditions around the world. There are 1000's of them all over. If you want to know if the band is favorable in your area. You can go upto 28.190-28.300 and surf around for them.
I just wanted to stop by and say "THANKS!!!" your reviews are great and direct to the point. Keep up the great reviews and information. Best Reguards! From The mistake on the lake, Lake Erie. Presque Isle State Park. Erie PA USA KDAP417..
@58Medic Thanks for checking out my video. I hope to test some more when I come across something more interesting and fairly portable. There is one design that may outpace all of these and it's called the "Goldenrod" by Signal Engineering. I have all the antennas forsale in the tests except for the MP1. If anyone is interested.
It's a RCI 2950. yes, it is unlocked it goes from almost 25mhz to 30. I have my antenna tuned to 27.5550 so I tend to stick around that area. I I recall correctly to unlock these radios there is just a jumper. At least that is all there is in the Magnum. I will do another video with the RCI sometime... I do like it for its scanning features. The Magnum seems like a better quality radio to me.
also -- part of the reason I used the Magnum was because it is easier to make transient readings off a analog meter vs. digital... i find needles show a bit more dynamics of the signal.
@bmxingtravis Yes, it's unlocked... goes to 32mhz ;) tho I haven't measured power output there... i've heard power drops when you start getting out of it's "tuned" bands. I imagine the power drop is a non-issue for most people as it's illegal to operate there, lol
how can you compare, they have different ground planes, in different locations, and the wilson is leaning...i bet you not licenced either...you should know better..
If i'm not licenced, how would I know better? You don't need a licence to monitor amateur radio beacons. It was not designed as a scientific measure. It does show what antennas work best for my situation.
i have the same fire stick antenna i just picked up and lost 2 db gain with it so i put back my 102" SS whip. gonna keep it as a back up, i have always loved the firestick antennas :)
How did you measure the drop? If you have both antennas try to find a local beacon, park the car and swap them out minimizing variables. My beacon was on USB so I had to make sure the clarifier was adjusted, set and left alone during the antenna swap outs. I would expect the 9 foot to beat the 7 foot... but its still a great antenna and is the best one I have around here I just don't have a proper way to mount it yet so I use the super antenna.
have you tried this kinda a test with a 102' SS whip , they work awsome :), this video detered me from buying a wilson 1000, due to seeing the signal loss it had for you , thanks for the vid and keep em comming,
ah come on man... tune the antennas the way there suppost to be and intall each antenna on a car all in the same spot and test them one after another. the wilson is the only antenna u cant compare in cuz its a mag mount. unless u can mount it in the same spot to. thumbs down on your test man..those antennas werent designed to work that way, so its not a real word comparision.
electrified302 4 months ago
I would test the Wilson 1000 from the same spot that the other antennas were tested. I think the table acts like a ground plane so the antennas have better gain.
Angelo965 4 months ago
Mounting location will have more to do with it than anything. Your ground plane for the wilson 1000 is rectangular so it is receiving best from the ends of the rectangle.Mont the mp1 in the same place as the wilson and I bet the wilson will win.
funnyman1972 9 months ago
@funnyman1972 I am sorry, you are wrong in one respect: The Wilson will not win, period. For one, it uses a capacitive coupling to ground, which is very inefficient -- ground quality is paramount to any antennas performance. For another, even though the other antennas are brought to resonance by a helical coil, they still will perform like an antenna of their perspective height; 3/4 wave of wire in a 7ft package is still a 7ft antenna.
kc8ntp 9 months ago
@funnyman1972 Oh, I also forgot to mention something else: The Wilson's coil is small diameter and mounted in plastic, which will make the Q go to shit, so this is going to equate to heat and losses.
73, John, NV6R an Extra class HAM and antenna designer with 40+ countries on 75m from the mobile; well over 200 on 20m-10m.
kc8ntp 9 months ago
Antennas I think are difficult to compare. It would have been better if all antennas were mounted the same way. The Wilson 1000 was mounted on a different ground plane than the other antennas so I would take its results with a grain of salt.
JohnMatrix89 1 year ago
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H0LISTIC616 1 year ago
nice one well done and interesting work with those beacons
29pu04 1 year ago
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Thanks Jeff. I've included this video in my collection I will be using when I report you to Industry Canada. The "freeband" as you call it is not for you or anyone else to use. Without an amateur license, you're limited to a "type accepted" citizen band radio operating only up to 27.405 mhz. Why are you operating on 27.425 mhz and why do you use an S9 and an RCI 2970? Neither of these radios are allowed for use on 27 mhz. I'm close to your apartment,so I'll continue to record your transmissions
jbrcar 1 year ago
@jbrcar You must be a real moron. I am listening to a ham repeater... no transmitting is done in order to calculate the gain of the antennas. You really should open an ARRL book and figure out what you are talking about before trolling peoples Youtube and spreading poison. There is no law against monitoring beacons nor are the freebands enforced anymore and for more hater food, the S9 is sold to a non licenced operator in Spain!
teflondon91 1 year ago 5
@teflondon91 Uh buddy....you dont need to be licensed to listen, but as soon as you cue up, you need to be licensed and have a call sign. Now i am not saying your cueing up the radio, I wouldn't know. But the second you do, its illegal. And the 10meter airwaves are still monitored. They are all monitored. Good luck and enojy the S9.
73's VE3WCT
strumem90 1 year ago
@jbrcar well, in the video he is listening to a local repeater, not transmitting on it. the radio is set in the 28mhz 10 meter band in this video, not 11mtr/CB". The second he cues up that radio in the 10meter bands he is illegal. It is NOT illegal for him to own them and listen to them, but, if he talks on them.it is. Now in Canada, I am not to sure if it is illegal to run an export radio/10meter that has been converted to CB. I do not know. But this video, shows no illegal activity
VE3WCT
strumem90 1 year ago
@strumem90 Don't mind him, his pocket protector is probably getting in the way. Plus, I think that he became a HAM because CBers kept putting his head up his ass... oh, wait, he must have forgot to remove it! I am a HAM and I feel like reinserting it whenever he decides to remove it.
John, NV6R
kc8ntp 9 months ago
@jbrcar
you are a barrel of monkey nuts, go file a complaint with pizza nova
F239141 1 year ago
@jbrcar you're a tool. get a life hammy. why do you hams feel the need to ATTEMPT to be superior? 99% of you tower raising buttwads can't even work on your own equipment. go ahead report him,it'll make you feel like you've done a good deed and then i'll send him my old "little" heater just to fuck with you for the rest of your pathetic "life" . galaxy400 runnin up in ya. and if that didn't work i'll run my lil 3kw s-10 north and make your whole territory cringe. go die.
dbbigdaddy 1 year ago
make a diapole antenna then see yuor result they work very good for what they are
LAZYDOG505 1 year ago
Great job! Fantastic video, very informative, and easy to follow. The information was very useful to me. Thanks for posting this test!
JGFowler121 1 year ago
You need to place each antenna in the same place otherwise you are comparing apples to oranges. Each has a gain pattern which is effected by the ground plane and surrounding conductors and boundary conditions. One antennae may be in a "HOT" spot and the other not. RF wave form standing waves and have nodes and anti nodes.
Revelation6v8 1 year ago
@Revelation6v8 Yes, and something else to factor is the positioning of the antenna on whatever ground plane it is working against. The position of the antenna on that table will make it somewhat directional in the plane of the table. As an experiment, you could try rotating the table while monitoring a fixed and stable signal. A constant carrier, from a signal generator or simple low power oscillator, would be perfect.
freddo27 1 year ago
Have you tried testing a 102 inch stainless steel whip against the MP-1 and if you have what was your results?
skipshooter782342 1 year ago
@skipshooter782342 No I don't have one tho the 102 would probably win but not tuneable all over the bands!
teflondon91 1 year ago
@skipshooter782342 i'd be testing it against the Firestik KW-7 since it is my current top performer.
teflondon91 1 year ago
@teflondon91 I would love to see how a Predator 10k compares to these antennas. I've been running the 9" Bad To The Bone version for over 10 years and I think its even better than the dual 102"s that I ran before that. Something else thats nice about the Predators is that if you brake it you dont got to buy a new antenna. You just order the broken part. You can completely rebuild them from the ground up.. kinda cool
nashvilleoutlaw 5 months ago
@skipshooter782342 not yet but a 1/4 whip isn't adjustable to the same bandwidths the MP1 is capable of... and its very portable!
teflondon91 5 months ago
My old firestick works great :)
doomloop1977 1 year ago
@doomloop1977 so you would get a firestick again? Im new to cb radios. I like the look of the firestick, but dont know the difference in those and whips.
4wheelermaniac500 1 year ago
it goes to show you the more you have in the air the better....it would have been interesting to see wich transmitted better.. Having different loads
W7TMD 1 year ago
how do you test a signal using a beacon. i notic you went
to a website the ottawa amateur radio club ten meter beacon - VE3TEN
please tell me whats that all about??
spencer4real 1 year ago
@spencer4real I think you answered your own question, LoL! I used a 10 meter amateur radio beacon that is around 40km from me. It is a stationary beacon used to measure DX propagation. Beacons are transmitters that allow ham radio operators and shortwave radio enthusiasts to monitor propagation conditions around the world. There are 1000's of them all over. If you want to know if the band is favorable in your area. You can go upto 28.190-28.300 and surf around for them.
teflondon91 1 year ago
thank you so much for that video it realy help me so
i am going to get the Firestik KW-7 and a clamp so i can use it on my
bulcony..
spencer4real 1 year ago
I just wanted to stop by and say "THANKS!!!" your reviews are great and direct to the point. Keep up the great reviews and information. Best Reguards! From The mistake on the lake, Lake Erie. Presque Isle State Park. Erie PA USA KDAP417..
58Medic 1 year ago
@58Medic Thanks for checking out my video. I hope to test some more when I come across something more interesting and fairly portable. There is one design that may outpace all of these and it's called the "Goldenrod" by Signal Engineering. I have all the antennas forsale in the tests except for the MP1. If anyone is interested.
teflondon91 1 year ago
id like to see a vid on the ranger 2970 and do you have to have that radio converted for 11 meter use?
bmxingtravis 2 years ago
It's a RCI 2950. yes, it is unlocked it goes from almost 25mhz to 30. I have my antenna tuned to 27.5550 so I tend to stick around that area. I I recall correctly to unlock these radios there is just a jumper. At least that is all there is in the Magnum. I will do another video with the RCI sometime... I do like it for its scanning features. The Magnum seems like a better quality radio to me.
teflondon91 2 years ago
also -- part of the reason I used the Magnum was because it is easier to make transient readings off a analog meter vs. digital... i find needles show a bit more dynamics of the signal.
teflondon91 2 years ago
i agree, it would be cool if the 2950 had an s meter with a needle
bmxingtravis 2 years ago
@bmxingtravis Yes, it's unlocked... goes to 32mhz ;) tho I haven't measured power output there... i've heard power drops when you start getting out of it's "tuned" bands. I imagine the power drop is a non-issue for most people as it's illegal to operate there, lol
teflondon91 1 year ago
how can you compare, they have different ground planes, in different locations, and the wilson is leaning...i bet you not licenced either...you should know better..
bigpimp347 2 years ago
If i'm not licenced, how would I know better? You don't need a licence to monitor amateur radio beacons. It was not designed as a scientific measure. It does show what antennas work best for my situation.
teflondon91 2 years ago
thanks for the info on where i can get the super ant. gonna have to try it out, thanks and 73's wwpdx522
sparks146574 2 years ago
where can i get a super antenna, would love to have one and try it out
sparks146574 2 years ago
mp1 super antenna look it up on google!
teflondon91 2 years ago
i have the same fire stick antenna i just picked up and lost 2 db gain with it so i put back my 102" SS whip. gonna keep it as a back up, i have always loved the firestick antennas :)
sparks146574 2 years ago
How did you measure the drop? If you have both antennas try to find a local beacon, park the car and swap them out minimizing variables. My beacon was on USB so I had to make sure the clarifier was adjusted, set and left alone during the antenna swap outs. I would expect the 9 foot to beat the 7 foot... but its still a great antenna and is the best one I have around here I just don't have a proper way to mount it yet so I use the super antenna.
teflondon91 2 years ago
have you tried this kinda a test with a 102' SS whip , they work awsome :), this video detered me from buying a wilson 1000, due to seeing the signal loss it had for you , thanks for the vid and keep em comming,
73's, unit 74 in oregon state wavin a hand
sparks146574 2 years ago
no, I don't have a 9 foot whip... firestik says that the KW-& will often out perform a 9 foot whip but it would be interesting to test.
teflondon91 2 years ago