I fail to understand comments like this. Of course you can't "get more energy" but collectors aren't about that, they're about collecting the energy most efficiently. Proof is so obvious. In a plain outdoor colector you'll get a little heat. Paint it black and you get more. Add some diversion to stall the air or metal to heat it more while stalled, you'll get even more heat. This is the same thing. And again, not all people are in the position to place units outdoors because of codes or renting.
Hi. I like the effort but there is something to consider. The energy gained through a window is defused throughout a room. The energy collected from this is the same. You cannot get more energy, it's the same, except it is defused differently. You gain more with an outside unit and it's own glass because it's like adding another south face window to your home. Good luck.
There is no need to collect sunlight from a window. You already get the passive heat from the sun through the window. Cover your heater in glass or Plexiglas (glass is cheaper and won’t scratch) and move it outside. You will probably want to add some insulation as well. Then the heat you get from the heater will be a gain instead of collecting heat that doesn’t need to be. Don’t get the wrong idea, I’m just trying to help. These heaters really do work, they just need to be employed properly.
@WastingMetal - Over the last week I've been trying to figure out what you are missing. On the one hand you seek to besmirch my attempt at helping people, yet you come back explaining exactly what I've done, with your own version; solar collection is an art that works best when fine tuned. Sure, a window is already a solar collector, but a poor one at best. Just as with the "party line" outdoor collector you call for, didn't you suggest the obvious additions to make it work better?
@WastingMetal - (part 2) I added the means to pass colder air in front of the collector, the window, and painted the collector black. The collector also gives a pass-thru radiant effect from the backside of the entire unit. In the end, both indoor/outdoor units do the same exact thing - amplify the amount of heat rendered. The big difference - any home can collect solar energy from my method where as the outside ones might need permission from landlords, associations, and a fan to move the air.
There is no need to collect sunlight from a window. You already get the passive heat from the sun through the window. Cover your heater in glass or Plexiglas (glass is cheaper and won’t scratch) and move it outside. You will probably want to add some insulation as well. Then the heat you get from the heater will be a gain instead of collecting heat that doesn’t need to be. Don’t get the wrong idea, I’m just trying to help. These heaters really do work, they just need to be employed properly.
good video but I have to wonder about the solar loss from the covered window! There is a insolation gain by passive heating of the room that is lost when you cover the window.
Good catch and that is one of the reasons I have to remake a few parts of the video. Yes, there is a slight trade-off, but one thing I forgot to point out on the video is the pass-thru effect. The entire backside of the unit radiates heat at an average of 90° because there's no insulation to stop the action. I'm in the process of finding out how to evaluate BTU's to see just what the true gain is in its entirety.
Also, because of the loss of light, I've already moved on to a new theory on a way to get both. The obvious method is still to enploy the cans, but made to hang out a window and using only 4 of 5" of space so as to free up the rest of the window.
Thanx for the input, and watching. Bumping heads is the way to making a better headache medicine.
I'm ready (and excited) to try this project this coming weekend. I don't suppose you have written plans you could email me?
edamargrite1 4 months ago
I fail to understand comments like this. Of course you can't "get more energy" but collectors aren't about that, they're about collecting the energy most efficiently. Proof is so obvious. In a plain outdoor colector you'll get a little heat. Paint it black and you get more. Add some diversion to stall the air or metal to heat it more while stalled, you'll get even more heat. This is the same thing. And again, not all people are in the position to place units outdoors because of codes or renting.
LightTouchTrainer 1 year ago
Hi. I like the effort but there is something to consider. The energy gained through a window is defused throughout a room. The energy collected from this is the same. You cannot get more energy, it's the same, except it is defused differently. You gain more with an outside unit and it's own glass because it's like adding another south face window to your home. Good luck.
jfalbo 1 year ago
what tune is that?
58belvedere 1 year ago
@58belvedere I believe it's "I'm feeling lucky"
LightTouchTrainer 1 year ago
@58belvedere I believe it's "I'm feeling lucky" or "blues duster"
LightTouchTrainer 1 year ago
nice looking unit check out some of my heaters
richallenmusic 1 year ago
There is no need to collect sunlight from a window. You already get the passive heat from the sun through the window. Cover your heater in glass or Plexiglas (glass is cheaper and won’t scratch) and move it outside. You will probably want to add some insulation as well. Then the heat you get from the heater will be a gain instead of collecting heat that doesn’t need to be. Don’t get the wrong idea, I’m just trying to help. These heaters really do work, they just need to be employed properly.
WastingMetal 1 year ago
@WastingMetal - Over the last week I've been trying to figure out what you are missing. On the one hand you seek to besmirch my attempt at helping people, yet you come back explaining exactly what I've done, with your own version; solar collection is an art that works best when fine tuned. Sure, a window is already a solar collector, but a poor one at best. Just as with the "party line" outdoor collector you call for, didn't you suggest the obvious additions to make it work better?
LightTouchTrainer 1 year ago
@WastingMetal - (part 2) I added the means to pass colder air in front of the collector, the window, and painted the collector black. The collector also gives a pass-thru radiant effect from the backside of the entire unit. In the end, both indoor/outdoor units do the same exact thing - amplify the amount of heat rendered. The big difference - any home can collect solar energy from my method where as the outside ones might need permission from landlords, associations, and a fan to move the air.
LightTouchTrainer 1 year ago
There is no need to collect sunlight from a window. You already get the passive heat from the sun through the window. Cover your heater in glass or Plexiglas (glass is cheaper and won’t scratch) and move it outside. You will probably want to add some insulation as well. Then the heat you get from the heater will be a gain instead of collecting heat that doesn’t need to be. Don’t get the wrong idea, I’m just trying to help. These heaters really do work, they just need to be employed properly.
WastingMetal 1 year ago
Saw this design elseware, definitely not 'first of its kind' but it is a good idea non the less for getting use out of empty coke cans!
NINJAROOable 1 year ago
good video but I have to wonder about the solar loss from the covered window! There is a insolation gain by passive heating of the room that is lost when you cover the window.
landslave 1 year ago
@landslave
Good catch and that is one of the reasons I have to remake a few parts of the video. Yes, there is a slight trade-off, but one thing I forgot to point out on the video is the pass-thru effect. The entire backside of the unit radiates heat at an average of 90° because there's no insulation to stop the action. I'm in the process of finding out how to evaluate BTU's to see just what the true gain is in its entirety.
LightTouchTrainer 1 year ago
@LightTouchTrainer
Also, because of the loss of light, I've already moved on to a new theory on a way to get both. The obvious method is still to enploy the cans, but made to hang out a window and using only 4 of 5" of space so as to free up the rest of the window.
Thanx for the input, and watching. Bumping heads is the way to making a better headache medicine.
LightTouchTrainer 1 year ago