Man, wish I had friends that liked this kind of grappling where I live. (Kansas). I'm more for Irish Collar and Elbow, but eh...I'd hop on this. Just grab his collar and the elbow of his sleeve and there ya go. What happened to the good ol' days where wrestlin' or boxin' was the measure of the man?
I have not found any principal differnce between this kind of grappling and something like judo, sambo etc. Can anyone explain this difference? I ask about technic , not about rules of competition.
The thing about Martial Arts, there are only so many ways to move. So, there is going to be alot of technical similarities between different styles, regardless of differences in time or space. However, Grappling especially is limited. There are only so many ways to hold someone.
However, these wrestlers are holding more on the back then you'd see in Judo.
The Irish version of grappling is called "Collar and Elbow" or "Scuffling". Also called "Coilear Agus Eille" in Irish Gaelic. But like 1trume said, it's extremely hard to find. I myself could only find two books on that matter, "Gallagher's Wrestling" and "The Magnificent Scufflers". Neither of which produce much.
I used to practice Scottish Backhold and knew some of the Irish Celtic Wrestlers. They were also doing Backhold. I don't know anyone does C&E anymore (or even totally knows what it was/is)
That's pretty cool. I'm going to Ireland this year, hopefully I'll be able to post some clips of Irish Gouren for those of us out there driven to watch and practice diverse martial arts. This looks kind of like Judo on sawdust without the gi (no disrespect intended). Hopefully I will be able to learn a new and valuable perspective on stand-up wrtestling when I go over.
It'll be hard to find Irish Celtic wrestling. There is a small group in Connemara, but very small.
Perhaps Cornish wrestling in Cornwall would be easier to find (it's like Gouren). Also, check out the Cumbrian/Backhold wrestling (check Youtube for Bridge of Allen games).
Man, wish I had friends that liked this kind of grappling where I live. (Kansas). I'm more for Irish Collar and Elbow, but eh...I'd hop on this. Just grab his collar and the elbow of his sleeve and there ya go. What happened to the good ol' days where wrestlin' or boxin' was the measure of the man?
azraelangelofred 1 year ago
the dog in the background is making me giggle.
Raijuu234 1 year ago
I have not found any principal differnce between this kind of grappling and something like judo, sambo etc. Can anyone explain this difference? I ask about technic , not about rules of competition.
samuelsammmo 2 years ago
I would say just based on strategies and training methods, alot of these systems all have similar techniques but different strategies.
LutteFrancais 2 years ago
The thing about Martial Arts, there are only so many ways to move. So, there is going to be alot of technical similarities between different styles, regardless of differences in time or space. However, Grappling especially is limited. There are only so many ways to hold someone.
However, these wrestlers are holding more on the back then you'd see in Judo.
Wolfenman08 2 years ago
@samuelsammmo
Grappling / sambo/ judo : authorised fight when u're on the floor .
No armlocks . You must let the opponent grab into the "roched " ( the white tee )
Matsuo00Taiki 2 years ago
The Irish version of grappling is called "Collar and Elbow" or "Scuffling". Also called "Coilear Agus Eille" in Irish Gaelic. But like 1trume said, it's extremely hard to find. I myself could only find two books on that matter, "Gallagher's Wrestling" and "The Magnificent Scufflers". Neither of which produce much.
azraelangelofred 3 years ago
I used to practice Scottish Backhold and knew some of the Irish Celtic Wrestlers. They were also doing Backhold. I don't know anyone does C&E anymore (or even totally knows what it was/is)
moominpic 2 years ago
That's pretty cool. I'm going to Ireland this year, hopefully I'll be able to post some clips of Irish Gouren for those of us out there driven to watch and practice diverse martial arts. This looks kind of like Judo on sawdust without the gi (no disrespect intended). Hopefully I will be able to learn a new and valuable perspective on stand-up wrtestling when I go over.
anarchostompkicka 4 years ago
It'll be hard to find Irish Celtic wrestling. There is a small group in Connemara, but very small.
Perhaps Cornish wrestling in Cornwall would be easier to find (it's like Gouren). Also, check out the Cumbrian/Backhold wrestling (check Youtube for Bridge of Allen games).
1trume 4 years ago
Cornish wrestling is actually based off of Gouren wrestling
Parrot486 2 years ago
I think it's a bit of a cross-pollenating thing.
moominpic 2 years ago
i know this wrestler...tuedee le'deur, wrong spelling tho he he. hes amazing!!!
deniseturley123 4 years ago
Hi Denise !
Tudy Le Meur actually.
cours2maths 4 years ago
What about you? Since when do you speak english?
gourenina 4 years ago
thanks!
ashwix 4 years ago
thanks for posting this
where did you take this footage?
thanks
ashwix 4 years ago